Is it me or are the lvl 4' completely insane atm?

Doing "the assualt" - lvl 4 in a 70% ressed golem, with 1300 HP healed 4 seconds and seriously, i can barely keep up - isnt this asking a bit much of people? seriously?

Having trained for 2 years and 3 months, flying the ultimate mission ship with elite skils and i have to struggle for it?

and wut about the loot? in the old days every wreck had stuff in em, now 3/4 are empty and when i do get loot, they contain T1 items, excuse me, but where is my income here?

Seriously, EVE is great yadda yadda yadda, but considering the time it takes, i'd better off mining veldspar with crap skills then doing these missions..

Fix maybe?

D.

Golem and CNR are still the best all-purpose mission ships.

The Nightmare and Mach are better for special uses (notably against EM-weak and Kn/Epl-weak rats, respectively), but they also have distinct drawbacks if you pit them against something outside that specialisation.

What's the one with the bonus pocket that you need the diamond tag for? I enjoy doing Worlds Collide with someone else just cos it takes an age in a BS

No. Just no.

Oh really? Anyway, yes.

DPS-wise, a Mach uses autocannons and can simply switch ammo to EMP to do the exact same damage amount, so you can't have been talking about DPS with that statement.

I suspect this is a case of guy bought toon thinking he will be l33t but finds it is not that easy.

GǪwhich also cuts the range down something fierce which isn't something you generally want against Sansha. That's why the NM is so outstanding against them: it delivers the right damage at the right (and beyond) the right range.

EMP doesn't cut down the range at all - you should be using either EMP, PP or Fusion, all of which have the same range already.

It matters not one tiny bit that your OPTIMAL range on AUTOCANNONS is reduced. The only thing that matters is how far into falloff the target is. At optimal plus one falloff my Mach is STILL doing more DPS than a Raven.

A CNR may be able to shoot out to 250km ranges .. but c'mon ... how many times is that useful? In all real scenario's it's DPS is substandard in relation to the pirate battleships.

GǪwhich also cuts the range down something fierce which isn't something you generally want against Sansha...

If we're talking half falloff (~80% DPS, then maybe), but now we're down to 40km, and there are plenty of missions where you need more engagement range than that.

You need to ask yourself the following question: how long, realistically, are the rats going to spend outside of 45km when I can do 1500m/s? It's not a question of where they spawn, it's a simple question of maintaining the range you want to be at.

The Gollem does even less damage

The only reason they're great at the first task, is that you can maintain a huge range and ergo can tank the damage easily enough.

Tippia, are you actually saying that the Raven does more dps than a Mach overall in some missions?

Comparing my mach fit to this raven (ignoring dps) we get about the same tank and I have an mwd which makes me go at 1.5kmps. Even if you take out a tank mod (thus making it worst than the mach at taking lol) and putting in an mwd it still only gets 800mps.

Edited my post to insert some new data just as you posted Tippia. And saying AC range is limited is understandable when looking at some ships, but not when looking at the Mach.

Tippia I'm not using guesses or random gut estimations when I give information. I have numbers to back me up everywhere. If you can show me a graph where a Raven outdpses a Mach in a realistic situation within a reasonable range then I'll admit you are right and there is a situation where the Mach loses to the Raven. Until then, it's just empty words.