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becherel	Posted - 2008.04.17 14:57:00 - [1] Alright guys, I am a fairly new placer heading towards capital ships more precisely a mothership. However I have a few questions: Can you dock a mothership in a station? If not in what kind of post can you dock it? Do you need sovereignty for that poss? Can any member of that poss come and take it from you? What happens when the POS blows up? Any clever way to get rude of that problem? Thanks, becherel
Van Steiza Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.17 15:05:00 - [2] My friend If you have no Idea already of the answers to your questions do you honestly think it wise to get into a mothership :)? In any case the answers to your questoins : 1.No 2.Capship maintanace array 3.Sov 4 4.If they have rights lol 5.Everything in it asplodes 6.Unno van
becherel	Posted - 2008.04.17 15:11:00 - [3] mate i have 5 month of skill trqining to go before the Mothership, i think in 5 i gone have time to learn the theory around the mothership. another question what do mothership pilots do while changing corp? do they just logg off in space?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.17 15:11:00 - [4] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/04/2008 15:13:13 Originally by: Van Steiza 3.Sov 4 Sov 1. Originally by: becherel mate i have 5 month of skill trqining to go before the Mothership, i think in 5 i gone have time to learn the theory around the mothership. Basic mothership piloting skills will get you killed in less then 7 days. Originally by: becherel another question what do mothership pilots do while changing corp? do they just logg off in space? 1: You get someone else to hold onto it while you dock to join a corp. 2: You buy a carrier alt if you dont have anyone to trust. 3: You deploy a pos and leave it inside the shield while you dock. 4: You leave it in a safespot while you dock and hope nobody finds me.
becherel	Posted - 2008.04.17 15:17:00 - [5] can you leave it inside the shield of any pos? is there any way to prevent some one boarding yourship? In five month i dont pretend to be able to fly a mothership propely just to have the skills and to know the theory around it... Thanks
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.04.17 16:05:00 - [6] Originally by: becherel mate i have 5 month of skill trqining to go before the Mothership, i think in 5 i gone have time to learn the theory around the mothership. another question what do mothership pilots do while changing corp? do they just logg off in space? 5 months ?? to be any use as a mother ship pilot you better have these trained: carrier 5 (yes you can fly it at 3.. but only a ****** would do that) fighters 4 (5 preferred) all capital modules ATLEAST 4 that you can use on your ship... capital reppers/shield boosters to 4 (depending on ship) capital remote reppers/shield boosters 4 (again depending on ship) nav skills very high. jump drive operation 4, jump drive calibration 4 atleast, jump drive conservation 4 maxed cap skills, maxed tanking skills depending on ship (shield or amor tank) to be a very good mother ship pilot you need around 2 years of training to be any use as a mothership pilot. one of my chars is highly specced in carriers... and i wouldnt even put her into a mother ship yet... she has allmost all skills needed to be maxed out carrier pilot :D + you need around 15bil isk to buy a mothership + around 10 bil or so to fit it (t2 fit is stupid on that :D) ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.04.17 16:07:00 - [7] Originally by: becherel can you leave it inside the shield of any pos? is there any way to prevent some one boarding yourship? In five month i dont pretend to be able to fly a mothership propely just to have the skills and to know the theory around it... Thanks nope.. anyone whit skills can board the ship if they can get inside the pos.. or if the kill you pos...and there are ALOT of ppl willing to kill your pos.. just to get your mothership ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Van Steiza Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.17 16:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/04/2008 15:13:13 Originally by: Van Steiza 3.Sov 4 Sov 1. Originally by: becherel mate i have 5 month of skill trqining to go before the Mothership, i think in 5 i gone have time to learn the theory around the mothership. Basic mothership piloting skills will get you killed in less then 7 days. Originally by: becherel another question what do mothership pilots do while changing corp? do they just logg off in space? 1: You get someone else to hold onto it while you dock to join a corp. 2: You buy a carrier alt if you dont have anyone to trust. 3: You deploy a pos and leave it inside the shield while you dock. 4: You leave it in a safespot while you dock and hope nobody finds me. Mybad thanks for correction but I ment the cap ship yard in relatoin to supercaps is that sov 1 or? ----------------------------------------------- Stop removing my Sig its fine!!!! Nerf Moderaters.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.17 17:47:00 - [9] Dont store moms in cap yards. Dont ever eject from them in the first place. You will want a multi billion isk implant setup and thats only really safe inside that mom.
Achran Dexx Caldari CompleXion Industries	Posted - 2008.04.17 17:56:00 - [10] Piece of advice: don't. What are you going to do once you're inside that mothership? How are you going to afford it and the faction/deadspace fittings? How are you going to fit the fittings? It's not worth doing yet, maybe go for ships that don't go for 5-6 billion easily.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc. Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.17 17:59:00 - [11] Originally by: becherel mate i have 5 month of skill trqining to go before the Mothership, i think in 5 i gone have time to learn the theory around the mothership. Buwahahahahaha! Please let us know when you get it and where you'll be flying.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:27:00 - [12] Originally by: becherel mate i have 5 month of skill trqining to go before the Mothership, i think in 5 i gone have time to learn the theory around the mothership. another question what do mothership pilots do while changing corp? do they just logg off in space? Nah you got around 2 years bud, not to burst your bubble, but you won't be able to get one either. You probably just won't matter enough. There are thousands of pilots that are alot closer to flying Motherships than you. But by all means, keep trying. Just being honest. If it's your dream I won't stop you, but if its just a small desire, carriers are that way ----->
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:18:00 - [13] First and foremost... "fairly new player" and "mothership" don't fit into the same sentence unless it also contains the words "comedy fit killmail". Second, motherships are NOT ships for personal use. If you're planning to get one so you personally can have fun with it... just don't. Unless you don't mind losing it in the first couple of minutes, hours or days (tops) of you getting one. Motherships require usually a corp/alliance level effort to keep alive, and usually the same to BUILD them. Last, there's not much you can do as a mothership pilot all on your own that you couldn't do decently well in a carrier too (which is only, like, 20 times cheaper and has none of the nasty side-effects of being unable to dock or having to risk getting scammed if you try to buy one) or even a properly fit battleship.
Rexthor Hammerfists Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:40:00 - [14] Good to see a new player with ambitions and welcome to the game. For a mothership to fly you need a few things more important then the actual skills to fly it. You will need a good understanding of pvp ie lots of experience, also you will need to know how to make the money for the mothership. To fly the mothership you need to have a supportfleet on standby, flying it alone or with a group of 10 will get you killed very fast - for those 3 points you should find yourself a good alliance/corp, which does pvp and has a strong industrial side. It will take you a long time to what you want, so my advice is to not lay all skills towards capitals but also train other ships if you dont have an alt, otherwise you most likely get bored of the game well before you get your mom.
Steppa Gallente Dawn of Fire Black-Out	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:45:00 - [15] I have all the jump skills to V I have carrier to V I have fighters to V I have advanced drone interfacing to V ...and I see no reason whatsoever to incur the expense, or the subsequent crushing loss if it asplodes, to persue a mothership. They are gigantic "shoot me first" signs in combat and anything else, a carrier suffices.
Kyreax Neuronix	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:28:00 - [16] Edited by: Kyreax on 17/04/2008 22:30:01 Don't listen to the guys saying you can't do it, ignore them. We all have to start somewhere. If you are smart and take positive advice well, you won't lose it easily. A year from now you might be floating around space in one! People fly these. Really! In spite of what is said here, 25 bil isn't that hard to get a hold of with hard isk-making work, and if you can stomach the possible loss, that ship would be amazing to fly in a huge gang or fleet. As to the nay-sayers, it's likely a case of "If I can't do it, you can't do it", or they're just negative people who like telling noobs they can't do something. Just get the backup of a big fat corporation to help you.
Kvirie Caldari Children of the Wind	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:35:00 - [17] LEt me save you some future problems by reminding you not to buy ISK from farmers, otherwise you may end up minus a mothership, and about 15billion isk in the hole.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Kyreax Edited by: Kyreax on 17/04/2008 22:30:01 Don't listen to the guys saying you can't do it, ignore them. We all have to start somewhere. If you are smart and take positive advice well, you won't lose it easily. A year from now you might be floating around space in one! People fly these. Really! In spite of what is said here, 25 bil isn't that hard to get a hold of with hard isk-making work, and if you can stomach the possible loss, that ship would be amazing to fly in a huge gang or fleet. As to the nay-sayers, it's likely a case of "If I can't do it, you can't do it", or they're just negative people who like telling noobs they can't do something. Just get the backup of a big fat corporation to help you. you can definitely do it! just be prepared to prepare for more than 5 months to fly one i started jan 07, and am just starting to train the skills required to fly a cap ship. (heh im doing my jump skills up first to be able to fly a black ops), I also have a few more support skills that i want to get to 5 before doing advanced spaceship command to 5. and then cap energy turret, armor rep to 4, before even training the dread/cap ship skill books.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.04.17 23:40:00 - [19] You missed a question: Can they be insured? No, each time it blows you lose every ISK you invested in it, its fittings, its drone and fighter complement and the stuff in your cargohold. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Everyone Dies Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.17 23:43:00 - [20] Edited by: Everyone Dies on 17/04/2008 23:44:26 5 months That's not long enough. You need all your support skills to 5, carrier 5, all your drone skills to 5, all capital support skills to 5. it will take you probably 3-4 years to be make it useful. Minimum.
Ne nehn	Posted - 2008.04.18 00:09:00 - [21] To pilot a mothership 1+ year of PVP experience is a MUST! By the look of it, you'll never even see a mothership in game.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.18 00:30:00 - [22] Originally by: Everyone Dies Edited by: Everyone Dies on 17/04/2008 23:44:26 5 months That's not long enough. You need all your support skills to 5, carrier 5, all your drone skills to 5, all capital support skills to 5. it will take you probably 3-4 years to be make it useful. Minimum. No you really dont.
Thelonius Rat Caldari MDK Syndicate The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.04.18 01:15:00 - [23] Edited by: Thelonius Rat on 18/04/2008 01:17:29 Edited by: Thelonius Rat on 18/04/2008 01:16:34 Originally by: Everyone Dies Edited by: Everyone Dies on 17/04/2008 23:44:26 5 months That's not long enough. You need all your support skills to 5, carrier 5, all your drone skills to 5, all capital support skills to 5. it will take you probably 3-4 years to be make it useful. Minimum. THIS GUY IS RIGHT TO FLY A MOTHER SHIP YOU MUST HAVE ALL SKILLS TRAINED TO 5 INCLUDING ELITISM 5 AND THE MOTHER SHIP SKILL AT 6 OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE TOTALLY USELESS IN FACT JUST GIVE UP NOW AND SAVE YOURSELF THE TROUBLE AND KAN I HAV UR STUFF PLZ?
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.18 01:27:00 - [24] It' great to encourage people to fly a 100-200m battleship with low skills. But flying a mothership with low skills just aint gonna happen. A carrier, maybe, but a mothership? **** me running, no way it will ever happen. Guide for this guy to get a carrier or mothership pilot: Farm ISK, or sell GTC's. And buy character on forums.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.18 03:29:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T First and foremost... "fairly new player" and "mothership" don't fit into the same sentence unless it also contains the words "comedy fit killmail". Not to mention "bought character" and "lots of real money turned into ISK (one way or the other)".
Alex Shurk	Posted - 2008.04.18 06:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Gamesguy No you really dont. If you don't have your support skills at 5, you're wasting the mothership. Give it to someone who does have all those skills at 5.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.04.18 06:41:00 - [27] Originally by: becherel Alright guys, I am a fairly new placer heading towards capital ships more precisely a mothership. However I have a few questions: Can you dock a mothership in a station? If not in what kind of post can you dock it? Do you need sovereignty for that poss? Can any member of that poss come and take it from you? What happens when the POS blows up? Any clever way to get rude of that problem? Thanks, becherel You remind me of myself per 2005 who joined EVE because I had seen a picture of the beutiful Nyx Mothership, so by damn I can understand your hunger for one. Now, almost 3 years later I have "given up" capital ships at all. I have some of the skills ofcource, but I wont train them to max or invest in them. Why? A Nyx is a pretty thing, but I found my love in the Command Ships. There are simply too much hassle with the Carriers and MS, and when you can have superb fun in a Command Ship, Ill prefer that! But ofcource! Please do go on your way! Everyone needs a goal, and a MS is a worthy one! But please! Understand the risk you take when you get into one! Have fun! And Good luck!
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2008.04.18 07:53:00 - [28] shame on you guys noone linked if you put a mom to CSAA and see why evryone against to leaving ship.just start with carriers http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=724872 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=732210
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.18 09:29:00 - [29] Originally by: Alex Shurk Originally by: Gamesguy No you really dont. If you don't have your support skills at 5, you're wasting the mothership. Give it to someone who does have all those skills at 5. Bull. Just because I take 5% more cap to use the reps and has 1% less resists cause I dont have compesation skills to 5 its all of a sudden a waste?

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