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Ragnar Janysgold
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:42:00 -
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I"ve play'd since nov 05. and in that time I havent seen 1 thing that concord can do properly except assist the pirates in stealing assets from working ppl.
This is not a Troll thread. or an EMO rant. but an honest question. Does EVE need CONCORD> in the assorted 600+ systems that we call HIGH SEC. there is at minimum 5 concord in each system. that is 3000 (AT MINIMUM) moving objects that the server's have to account for. each time a pirate gank's some one. New concord is spawn. increasing there overall numbers. the concord that was already spawn'd (even on that gate) does nothing to interfere with the pirates.
As we all know. that given enough time the pirates will figure out a fitting that will allow them to kill a freighter with a noob ship all while Concord does there job of patrolling there sectors.
with the activity I've seen in the last few months with the from time to time EPIC battles in the south. and soon in the north we hear. the players are gonna need some releaf from lag. I say we eliminate the Ineffectual Concord. and stop giving people a false sence of security. and just play the game. with out concord. we'd run in packs to keep our haulers and freighters safe. which would make for better battles. all over. we'd have less server side lag. which would make for better battles. and we'd know exactly where we stand at all times. it would be the same as flying in low sec. ( you can die at any moment.) live with it. which is what CCP tells us everytime a freighter dies to pirates. or a hauler full of officer mods drops to the guy who plays' 1-2 days a week and sells the isk he gets so he can by that 4x4 for his 16 yrold ....
anyone have a better Idea. (Troll's can stay in the Goon threads. this is for adults) |
Ackaroth
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:44:00 -
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This belongs in General tbh.... ------------> that way
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Doogin
Terminal Velocity Inc.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:44:00 -
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/signed
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Raid
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:50:00 -
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1. This belongs in the Crime and Punishment section
2. Can i have your stuff?
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Selest Cayal
Gallente
The Nietzschean Empire
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:50:00 -
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Yeah same thing happend to me. but i only lost a T2 rig.. But anyway
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GulletSplitter
Minmatar
Maasai Tribal Products
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:56:00 -
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The problem with if you do this...you'll never get another person to sign up from scratch with a character. Noobs need protection of some sort to start off with. So instead of saying "remove everything and let it be a free for all". Come up with a suggestion that protects noobs for some period of time until they can learn the ropes.
Saying all that....yes high sec has some issues right now...maybe instead of tossing it completely they should just shrink the number of systems under Concord control.
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Ephemeral Waves
In terrorem
Penumbra Unleashed
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:03:00 -
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Eve General Discussion is Up there ^^.
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William DeMeo
Gallente
Thunder Talons
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:11:00 -
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Removing Concord is an awesome idea. Just have 4 gateguns on all the gates and stations and leave it at that.
Yarr |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:11:00 -
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Gank pirates aren't the only ones who CONCORD is there for. You're right about professional suiciders having no problem circumventing CONCORD. But what about me? I've never been bothered to set up a suicide gank, but I'd happily blow anyone up if I came across them and thought I could win. I bet 90% of the EVE population are like that.
If CONCORD were removed, any system with more than 20 unaffiliated pilots in would be complete chaos. This would be awesome, but it's also a much much much more massive leap than you make out.
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: William DeMeo
Removing Concord is an awesome idea. Just have 4 gateguns on all the gates and stations and leave it at that.
yeah those turrets are better than concord itself tbqh. |
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Walkin
Amarr
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:20:00 -
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if i remember correctly eve was launched without concord, the population policed itself and everyone prospered. When concord was introduced the population went to hell, we got asshats hiding within game mechanics to grief others. Turn back the clock, make all of eve 0.0. I need to dust off the guns :)
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:24:00 -
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we have concord to keep 20000+ motsu cnrs from cancelling their subscription |
Ragnar Janysgold
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:32:00 -
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those 20000+ CNR's aren't safe either. a buddy lost one this week in .5 space. to gankers. so your theroy is flaw'd. |
Vagra
Minmatar
Gods Unwanted
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:38:00 -
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Leave faction police on gates remove concord as an NPC and Allow players to request entry into concord as you would the police in RL. Add a little more excitement to the game.
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EVIL SYNNs
Minmatar
Shadows of the Dead
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:45:00 -
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yeah I was like robbed in london not so long ago. Broad Day light it was... so what do I pay my tax for police eh! Capital of my country and I get robbed.
At least you know in eve the swines will die too!
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Ragnar Janysgold
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vagra
Leave faction police on gates remove concord as an NPC and Allow players to request entry into concord as you would the police in RL. Add a little more excitement to the game.
Now that is something that could increase the playablity in the game.
U'K alliance just came out with Player based Agents. so the concept is already started. a Player based Concord or Merc squad you could hire for Protection could be one possible answer. given they were prohibited from attacking there contract in some way.
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Noshi
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:50:00 -
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Bye Koncord o/
CCP Rid us of this police corruption.
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Serpuris
Amarr
NED-Clan
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vagra
Leave faction police on gates remove concord as an NPC and Allow players to request entry into concord as you would the police in RL. Add a little more excitement to the game.
This is an awesome idea and I think that many people would support this aswell. |
Neslo
Gallente
No Angels Here
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Serpuris
Originally by: Vagra
Leave faction police on gates remove concord as an NPC and Allow players to request entry into concord as you would the police in RL. Add a little more excitement to the game.
This is an awesome idea and I think that many people would support this aswell.
This is the worst idea ever.
Cuz what could go horribly wrong in a high sec, payer controlled concord environment?  |
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:29:00 -
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Moved to General Discussion. |
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Neslo
Gallente
No Angels Here
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Moved to General Discussion.
Can you merge this with the other thread... labelled teh same thing... or lock one? |
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:30:00 -
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My god, they're multiplying! |
Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:32:00 -
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Alt? Meet Main....
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Doonoo Boonoo
Amarr
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:42:00 -
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/Deja Vue |
hauler111
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:54:00 -
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just make people who attack someone in above 0.4 illegally blow up instantly. problem solved.
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Ragnar Janysgold
Gallente
N.A.S.A.
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:05:00 -
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I guess CCP doesnt want to discuss this issue. they moved this to General discussion. then closed it.
maybe they want a griefing society. |
Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:09:00 -
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Continuing from the other (now locked) thread:
Originally by: Ragnar Janysgold
what are you talking about. when I realized I forgot to swat characters I admited it. and I'm only looking for way's make the gameplay more Player friendly. I don't really care what you think of empire. I rarely fly there now unless I'm in a ceptor anyway. but I talk to alot of people who loose **** everyday. to gankers. there not afk. and there not flying stupid. just getting raped with no loob.
I'm sorry, this isn't as common as you seem to think. Yes, things like Freighter/Hauler ganking happens, but its a pretty smaller percentage of those ships in Empire.
I have had one (and exactly one) attempt to suicide me in High Sec, they hit my AF while the active tank was running. Call it premonition, call it experience, but for some reason I decided to turn my tank on while in mid-warp. They popped, I didn't. I've been playing more than a year and am on several hours a night.
I don't know anyone that has been suicided or ganked in Empire that either wasn't watching what they were doing or did something that gave aggro. Retaking from flipped cans and not docking, engaging flashy-reds, not seeing 15 Goons in local, etc. Every single one could have been avoided with minimal work.
I agree that there seems to be too much going on for a "safer" area of space and fully expect something to change, but I doubt that change will be as drastic as some hope; it will most-likely be nothing more than removing insurance for Concordokken ships. But the bottom line is that Concord doesn't "stop" crime, they punish the offenders. The only debate is whether that punishment is harsh enough. |
Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ragnar Janysgold
I guess CCP doesnt want to discuss this issue. they moved this to General discussion. then closed it.
maybe they want a griefing society.
heh, no they told you not to spam. Keep it in one thread 
Otherwise they would have locked this one too.... |
Neslo
Gallente
No Angels Here
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ragnar Janysgold
I guess CCP doesnt want to discuss this issue. they moved this to General discussion. then closed it.
maybe they want a griefing society.
Or... they might be following the rules they laid down about not crost posting... and then shutting down one of those threads...
Just grasping at straws here though...
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Shakuul
Caldari
Extreme Addiction
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:12:00 -
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They could just have the agressor's ship blow up by itself after a specified amount of time (depending on sec status), or increase concord dps again, so they would instapop everything as soon as they spawned. |
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