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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.22 23:32:00 -
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Stupid question, being new, how common is it for a "pirate corp" to declare war on a corp that is mostly full of newbs trying to learn the game and claim they where hired as a lame excuse, our corp just had this happen, and like to know how you are expected to defend yourselves when most people in yer corp dont even have over 500k skill points vs players that have been playing for months and months with millions of skill points, is this their idea of fair? or are they just chicken****s that cant handle fighting people more in their league of skill and equipment?
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Karl Savage
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Posted - 2004.04.22 23:54:00 -
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Oh wow, what a surprise. Mercenary Forces. Again. Two ways you can deal with this. Stand up for yourselves and shoot them in frigates or whine enough on the forum and they'll retract the war and pick on another noob corp.
Either way is good.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.04.22 23:58:00 -
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Or contact any Anti-Pirate group that operates out of or near your region to spank them hard!!!
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:11:00 -
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As was said over and over again:
If the corporation you just joined cannot defend you, you should reconsider your decision to join. Whining here does you no good, contrary to what the poster above says.
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Zelota > my hands are the best
Zelota > and i can kill every ship in this game on my own in a rupture
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:16:00 -
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Has nothing to do with whining, why is it that is the first answer to a question whenever it is posed to call it whining you only prove your lack of intelligence and inablilty to come up with a suitable answer.
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:23:00 -
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More Whining...
Ok, first off not everyone in MF has been playing forever. I have been playing about the same amount of time you guys have. Some reason I have no problem supplying myself with an almost endless supply of frigs. Why cant you?
Also lets look at the numbers here. HOw many people are in your corp? If I remember right you have about 80 people. That is 3 times larger than MF. Hell you guys could get a huge fleet of kessies and hit us with ease.
Not to mention your not our only war.
Stop complaining and deal with it.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:25:00 -
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Oh here we go again,
As stated a number of times before, we war who we like when we like as a corp, we also do contracts for who we like when we like,
reffering to us as a pirate corp is a common misconception, just because players like PvP does not make them pirates.
grab a frigate, see you in space
p.s. you never know, you might actualy enjoy it
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Lyela on 23/04/2004 00:28:37
yes 80 trial players 70% of whom have quit.
And again you resort to the lame tactic of calling any form of conversation whining.
and as for you being a corp who likes pvp, go off into low sec space and you get all the pvp you want for free without harassing people who still have not figured out how do do anything but mount a mining laser.
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:26:00 -
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Why do I get the feeling that Mercenary Forces are hiring themselves to go and beat up on newbie corps to make themselves look tough so people will start hiring them? I mean, I wonder why their supposed employers deem it neccessary to hire someone to kill players who can't defend themselves.. sounds very suspicious to me.
I think I might hire you guys to take out m0o or Evolution or another corp who actually has some guns, just to give these newbie corps a bit of enjoyment back at your expense.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:31:00 -
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and would "having some guns" refer to numerouse ammounts of battleships sitting at a gate??
to be honest we have fought many corps with "big guns" as you call it, they are not too impressive
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:33:00 -
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Looking more at your corp... How is a corp that is at least 8 months old new?
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:36:00 -
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Because the CEO is the only old member that was left in it, and decided to rebuild, I just started something like 20 days ago and im considered "old"
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:37:00 -
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I wonder why their supposed employers deem it neccessary to hire someone to kill players who can't defend themselves.. sounds very suspicious to me.
Our costs are low, our rate is affordable and our clients have more profitable things to do.
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Zelota > my hands are the best
Zelota > and i can kill every ship in this game on my own in a rupture
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:38:00 -
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So in 20 days you have managed to recruit 80 people?
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Gaiam
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Posted - 2004.04.23 00:51:00 -
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leyla it is very common lately in eve. also very common for "pvp"ers to flame people on forums for asking questions.
your corps was not targeted for any reason other than it is weak.
mangy coyotes target weak prey.
trix if you would read the whole post (and replys) you wouldnt have to ask stupid questions.
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.23 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: trixs on 23/04/2004 01:02:23
Suppose for a second that someone is looking for a corp to war. Now they see a rather large corp that is in the area and has been around for 8 months running. Does this look like a newbie corp to you? Personally I have no idea if they are a newbie corp or not. All I see is the facts: 8 months old and 80 players. Do you want a corp memeber to track down every memeber and try and see how long they have been playing? 
Oh, I did read the thread. They said most are inactive 10 day trial accounts. Why not boot them then? If you dont your just inflating your numbers and bring wars to you. Why is that true? Pvpers like more targets! 
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 01:03:00 -
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^^^and right there you are proving you guys arent hired to attack anyone either, you look for corps to attack, pretty lame.
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.23 01:08:00 -
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Actually I have been in MF for about five days and have no idea why you where choosen. I was simply saying that if I was in charge and wanted some action you would have been a good target from the number of people.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.04.23 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lyela
Because the CEO is the only old member that was left in it, and decided to rebuild, I just started something like 20 days ago and im considered "old"
Might be a bad solution, but create a new corp, transfer whatever assets to it, at same time you get ridd of all the people who isnt active.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.23 05:33:00 -
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You should feel honored to have recieved one of our coveted war slots. 
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Originally by: Oveur
EVE is primarily a PVP game
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vodalus
You should feel honored to have recieved one of our coveted war slots.
War is war - it have never anything to do with honnor 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.04.23 06:02:00 -
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Take off the mining lasers, get into a frigate, STFU and deal with it. This is the type of game EVE is. Sometimes war isn't fair. You can cry about it, or you can use the oppertunity to learn a new aspect of the game. Either way, whine somewhere else.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Take off the mining lasers, get into a frigate, STFU and deal with it. This is the type of game EVE is. Sometimes war isn't fair. You can cry about it, or you can use the oppertunity to learn a new aspect of the game. Either way, whine somewhere else.
:)) nobody is crying and it is not first war I'v seen in EVE
but it's first senseless war, I'm part of...
<hehe> probably for all should be first time ;-)
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.04.23 06:54:00 -
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some ppl need a easy target to reassert themselves.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
some ppl need a easy target to reassert themselves.
<hehe> yes, chicken-hearted people do this often...
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.04.23 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Maiwenn LeBesc0
Why do I get the feeling that Mercenary Forces are hiring themselves to go and beat up on newbie corps to make themselves look tough so people will start hiring them? I mean, I wonder why their supposed employers deem it neccessary to hire someone to kill players who can't defend themselves.. sounds very suspicious to me.
I think I might hire you guys to take out m0o or Evolution or another corp who actually has some guns, just to give these newbie corps a bit of enjoyment back at your expense.
Can we pleeeaaassseeeee?
This is not a hijack
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2004.04.23 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vodalus
You should feel honored to have recieved one of our coveted war slots.
Hehe , i liked that answer.
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.04.23 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 23/04/2004 08:44:07
War... War never changes.
- Fallout
It seems more and more people are complaining about wars lately. c'mon guys, if you dont want to fight, you can always surrender or hire some guns for your own protection.
I dont think they care about your corp size or age, especially not if they were really hired to cause harm to you. Moaning and whiling about that may get you some sympathy, but the same ammount of people will hate you for it, possibly resulting in even more hostilities.
- if they were hired, you cant blame them for going after you, as they had to
- if they were looking for wars, then its your own fault to present yourself as a juicy target, with 80 members and a 8month old corp.
thats just my .02isk
- EDIT: to correct myself, you can always blame them, but then its questionable if you are right or not.
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.04.23 09:05:00 -
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Quote:
War...
But what is it good for?
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.04.23 09:14:00 -
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The other thing you can do is pay for other pirates to join your corp... blow them up make them retract the war because before long it'll just annoy them... this can be pretty expensive tho so hope you can mine alot 
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 09:54:00 -
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Again you mistake asking questions as whining, is this the only fallback people have?
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:04:00 -
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Yes indeed war is war.
Prior to a war decleration (and the inevitable forum whining) how would anyone know that a corp is full of newbees?
Let's look at the facts:
1. The corp in question has been established for over 8 months (not a new corp).
2. It currently lists 80 members.
3. There is no way of seeing the members list from outside the corp, hence, no way of telling that the average skillpoints are 500k - or whatever.
From an outsiders point of view this appears to be a well established - popular corporation who should be able to field an appropriate military response.
So all the people accusing us of hitting "soft targets" - STFU, you wouldn't know any better before the forum whinging starts.
The corp war whining is starting to get annoying, and the "me too's", by all means, if you feel strongly enough about it, go ahead and declare in return, we'll be more than happy to accomodate.
Regardless of the reasons or purpose of the war, it has to be admitted by the facts listed above this would be classed as a "valid target" in anyone's book.
I would suggest that wildcats read some of the earlier posts in this thread, jump in frigates, and get some scrapping done.
Feel happy that someone cares enough to give you some attention.
Grimster out.
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Ganza
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:06:00 -
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Hmmn Mercenary Forces - you must be so rough, tough and l33t. Must be a real rewarding challenge for you taking down newbs in Ibises in 1.0. To scared to play with the big boys?
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Grimster on 23/04/2004 10:09:17
Originally by: Ganza
Hmmn Mercenary Forces - you must be so rough, tough and l33t. Must be a real rewarding challenge for you taking down newbs in Ibises in 1.0. To scared to play with the big boys?
Read my previous post.
Edit - wish I could spell.
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 23/04/2004 10:27:43
Originally by: Lyela
Again you mistake asking questions as whining, is this the only fallback people have?
Ehm, sorry to disappoint you, but because of a 'Stupid question, being new, how common is it' starting of your initial post, its content remains the same. You are basically upset about whats happening and wanted to get some sympathy. I cant blame you for that, but please do not lie to yourself. Question is a grammar term, used to describe a phrase or expresion asking for an answer or explanation. A question in itself may have a deeper meaning hidden behind the words. Example:
"please tell me, how can someone be so stupid?" - now is that an insult or a question? I think its both.
To answer to YOUR question:
Its fairly common lately. I think shiva will change it, but until then, corporations have nothing better to do than to wage wars against eachother.
My response to the 'deeper meaning' of your post, such as whining and asking for someone to stop this war:
If you are trully a noob corp, then i would suggest you use the opportunity to get some PvP experience, as that can save your life later in game. Damn, below 500k skillpoints? You can get clones for that for virtually free. I would be worried to lose my clone now, that im almost at 10m skillpoints, but losing an 50-60k clone is not a big hit compared to the experience you may get.
Well, im sure wars cost a lot of money to fight, especially on the weaker side, so you may want to ask some 'PVP experts' (experienced members of PvP corps) to help you out with tips on how to minimize your losses, etc.
Good luck anyway.
- EDIT: A quick tip, which has helped me a lot to avoid fights:
Have folders in your bookmarks window for every system you visit. (this is a nice way to have bookmarks somewhat more organized anyway). Warp to a random moon (preferably moon of a planet with 10+ moons) in that system, and create a bookmark called: escape. Now you'll have an escape entry on the bottom of your 'in-system' context menu (the one you get when you rightclick somewhere in space).
Always travel with the auto-scanner window open. In settings you should set the 'people im in war with' line to a unique color (i prefer orange), blinking. Now every time you see the orange blinking light in the scanner, you just right click anywhere on the screen (except other objects of course) and warp to the escape bookmark.
Unless you are in a slow ship, and you are not afk, chances are you'll be able to warp out before they lock you down. Just make sure to create an escape bookmark once you arrive into a system.
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zincol
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:26:00 -
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Boo hoo
w00t!
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Seraphiel
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:27:00 -
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Lyela - if you have members who can mine - pay a mercenary corp to give them some love...
Also - get your corp m8's to train up cruise missiles and gank them in frigs.
pvp is fun
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Grimster
Yes indeed war is war.
Prior to a war decleration (and the inevitable forum whining) how would anyone know that a corp is full of newbees?
Let's look at the facts:
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Grimster out.
also from my point of vew:
1) all active corp.-members are very nice people and I will not believe, that someone of them have did anything, why other corp will pay big sum to hire FM-corp (war mean losts and they should pay You very good to cover Your costs)
2) even if it is a case, I wonder, why CEO from other "hidden" corp have not tryed to clear this with us before he have emptied his/corps pocket
3) we have recruitet big amount of new members last time and I would not wonder, that someone of new members is one of FM's alts (also don't tell me, You could not and You have not tested, whom You want fight)
therefore for me this looks like You have searched for target, who can be (from Your point of vew) at the same time soft and on another hand can give You rumor (because of member-count)
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Seraphiel
Lyela - if you have members who can mine - pay a mercenary corp to give them some love...
Also - get your corp m8's to train up cruise missiles and gank them in frigs.
pvp is fun
sure pvp is fun
but pvp, battle and war are 3 different things
and You should know this much better than me ;-)
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: K'isa
Originally by: Grimster
Yes indeed war is war.
Prior to a war decleration (and the inevitable forum whining) how would anyone know that a corp is full of newbees?
Let's look at the facts:
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Grimster out.
also from my point of vew:
1) all active corp.-members are very nice people and I will not believe, that someone of them have did anything, why other corp will pay big sum to hire FM-corp (war mean losts and they should pay You very good to cover Your costs)
2) even if it is a case, I wonder, why CEO from other "hidden" corp have not tryed to clear this with us before he have emptied his/corps pocket
3) we have recruitet big amount of new members last time and I would not wonder, that someone of new members is one of FM's alts (also don't tell me, You could not and You have not tested, whom You want fight)
therefore for me this looks like You have searched for target, who can be (from Your point of vew) at the same time soft and on another hand can give You rumor (because of member-count)
Customer details are never divulged beyond (is there a customer?) the answer to this is YES!
Why people find it so hard to believe that they might be a target for a merc customer is beyond me, someone doesn't either like what you are, what you are doing or just plain doesn't like you - live with it.
Is there a customer for the StarLight war we have ongoing (Please note just about all these guys field Battleships) - NO!, that's between us and them.
War declerations do come and go, we really don't have the time to send a "spy alt" into your corp to test the waters, and have no need to either, when we work for ISK the biggest factor is customer satisfaction (enemy kills), and to suggest we need to is overinflating your importance to us.
You've got to remember that we usually declare on a weekly basis, and frankly have no time to "spy" out your corp, if you wish to take things beyond our contract time, then that's up to you to declare on us in return.
As previously stated for all appearances you are a well established popular corp, prior to the war decleration, we had no idea who you were, but we do a quick check to see that the target is valid by the points I highlighted in my earlier mail.
Best of luck to you.
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: pHASE 11 on 23/04/2004 11:20:49
This tactic is quite new as the amount of new eve-players vs experienced eve-players is high atm. However game mechanics should in no way restrict this, there must be some way to "win" a war for the stronger party. That it is lame to pick a fight with, or continue a fight with, the weakest guy is something entirely different.
Get help from your friends, if your are able to reason with your opponent negotiate a cease fire, move to a new region, start a new corp or learn to avoid encounters so your enemy gets bored and picks a fight with someone else.
Which direction is the easiest to go depends on your situation.
Note that I did not include the common proposal to hire someone as it would be expensive, of questionable reliability and leave the fun to someone else.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: K'isa
3) we have recruitet big amount of new members last time and I would not wonder, that someone of new members is one of FM's alts (also don't tell me, You could not and You have not tested, whom You want fight)
How tight is your security regarding new people joining? What background checks etc are you doing. We had several people trying to join us lately that have changed mind as they didnt like our application process. Numbers isnt everything the quality of the players is, probably why you guys are stuck with so many inactive players as well.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:30:00 -
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No, again it was far from whining it is asking advice on what to do, being new, I have not the slightest clue, Im no stranger to forums MMORPGS or pvp in those types of games, and the normal flame response that I did expect happened, I get called a whiner, constructive posts are what id like, but I guess if asking is your definition of whining then im whining but I think you need to go research the definition of the word. do you see tears? is this the first time I have ever posted on a subject such as this, -no and yes- definition doesnt fit. advice and sympathy are very different. if anything the repetitive posts accusing someone of whining apply more to the definition of a whiner then those they are accusing.
Ok we got whining out of the way, Constructive posts please.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: pHASE 11
Edited by: pHASE 11 on 23/04/2004 11:20:49
This tactic is quite new as the amount of new eve-players vs experienced eve-players is high atm. However game mechanics should in no way restrict this, there must be some way to "win" a war for the stronger party. That it is lame to pick a fight with, or continue a fight with, the weakest guy is something entirely different.
Get help from your friends, if your are able to reason with your opponent negotiate a cease fire, move to a new region, start a new corp or learn to avoid encounters so your enemy gets bored and picks a fight with someone else.
Which direction is the easiest to go depends on your situation.
Note that I did not include the common proposal to hire someone as it would be expensive, of questionable reliability and leave the fun to someone else.
it's not first war, I'm involved in
and I'm afraid, it will be not the last one
there is only "small" difference, that I have now to protect not only my own interests, but also interests of corp.-members
but I think, we can handle this problem in one or another way...
anyway thank You for pices of advice :))
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 23/04/2004 11:56:33
Originally by: Lyela
No, again it was far from whining it is asking advice on what to do, being new, I have not the slightest clue, Im no stranger to forums MMORPGS or pvp in those types of games, and the normal flame response that I did expect happened, I get called a whiner, constructive posts are what id like, but I guess if asking is your definition of whining then im whining but I think you need to go research the definition of the word. do you see tears? is this the first time I have ever posted on a subject such as this, -no and yes- definition doesnt fit. advice and sympathy are very different. if anything the repetitive posts accusing someone of whining apply more to the definition of a whiner then those they are accusing.
Ok we got whining out of the way, Constructive posts please.
to make it easy for you: i dont care, if you insist on lying to yourself, do that.
oh and btw: i had some tips posted as well in that post, which i think can be classified as constructive.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: K'isa
3) we have recruitet big amount of new members last time and I would not wonder, that someone of new members is one of FM's alts (also don't tell me, You could not and You have not tested, whom You want fight)
How tight is your security regarding new people joining? What background checks etc are you doing. We had several people trying to join us lately that have changed mind as they didnt like our application process. Numbers isnt everything the quality of the players is, probably why you guys are stuck with so many inactive players as well.
we are looking generally for FRIENDLY people, independent from expirience
and it is not big deal to recognize friendly people even after small conversation
and, like someone said: "not all in life are money".
unfortunatelly very many forget this small truth...
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 11:59:00 -
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I saw that, and I thank you for the advice, just wanted to get the namecalling stupidity out of the way before 20 other people jump in here and repeat the exact same thing, other then that Ive set up as much as I can, but i have no illusions about trying to take on a well established pvp corp in a frigate, hope they like boredom cause its all they are gonna find. Safespots are easy to make. finding them is so much harder.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Grimster on 23/04/2004 12:02:26
Originally by: Lyela
No, again it was far from whining it is asking advice on what to do, being new, I have not the slightest clue, Im no stranger to forums MMORPGS or pvp in those types of games, and the normal flame response that I did expect happened, I get called a whiner, constructive posts are what id like, but I guess if asking is your definition of whining then im whining but I think you need to go research the definition of the word. do you see tears? is this the first time I have ever posted on a subject such as this, -no and yes- definition doesnt fit. advice and sympathy are very different. if anything the repetitive posts accusing someone of whining apply more to the definition of a whiner then those they are accusing.
Ok we got whining out of the way, Constructive posts please.
Looking at this post I would question the internal communication of your corporation.
K'isa states twice so far in this thread that they have been involved in wars before, surely you would speak to one of your more experienced members before posting on the public forum (as is your right) about what to do.
This would indicate as I just stated that either your internal communication is ineffective, your more experienced player base cannot supply you any real information or you just came here for the public "aaahhh poor things" sympathy vote.
All good intel.
Cheers!
edit - still can't spell.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lyela on 23/04/2004 12:05:03
Or Grim, it could be that we play primarily at different times due to living in distinctly different places in the real world > : O shocking!
Call in a few more of yer MF buddies to call me a whiner for all the good it does.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lyela
Or Grim, it could be that we play primarily at different times due to living in distinctly different places in the real world > : O shocking!
We have the same problem. Try using Eve mail.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:11:00 -
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Ok eve-mail, lets review the logic here, 2 players play at opposing times, Player 1 sees war declaration mail, player 1 is new and doesnt really know what to do but Player 2 that does wont be online for some time, Player 1 knows that in 24 hours they will be able to be attacked and needs quick advice on what to do, eve mailing will be far too late to get things in order, So player one goes to the community for advice, and sifts through retarded carbon copy yes-man posts to gather what little data is available.
Look im feeling nice, im gonna make your next post for you
here it is
"Hey quit whining"
wow that was hard, I had to think about that one.
Any more MF wisdom?
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:12:00 -
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Guys just get into frigs and fight. Grim and co are good clean guys to fight against. Don't let your experianced members use battleships and Mercs will just stick to flying the same size of ships as you are.
As to the "n00b" Corp thing. Kick the inactive members and you won't look like a challenge to Corps like Mercs.
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:14:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Bosie
Guys just get into frigs and fight. Grim and co are good clean guys to fight against. Don't let your experianced members use battleships and Mercs will just stick to flying the same size of ships as you are.
Bosie.
Amen!
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:28:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Bosie
Guys just get into frigs and fight. Grim and co are good clean guys to fight against. Don't let your experianced members use battleships and Mercs will just stick to flying the same size of ships as you are.
As to the "n00b" Corp thing. Kick the inactive members and you won't look like a challenge to Corps like Mercs.
Bosie.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:53:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Lyela
Stupid question, being new, how common is it for a "pirate corp" to declare war on a corp that is mostly full of newbs trying to learn the game and claim they where hired as a lame excuse, our corp just had this happen, and like to know how you are expected to defend yourselves when most people in yer corp dont even have over 500k skill points vs players that have been playing for months and months with millions of skill points, is this their idea of fair? or are they just chicken****s that cant handle fighting people more in their league of skill and equipment?
Lyela convo me ingame or leave me a Eve-mail and we will work something out. My corp m8's and I will handle your pest problem
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Posted - 2004.04.23 13:11:00 -
[56]
Originally by: OmegaTron
Originally by: Lyela
Stupid question, being new, how common is it for a "pirate corp" to declare war on a corp that is mostly full of newbs trying to learn the game and claim they where hired as a lame excuse, our corp just had this happen, and like to know how you are expected to defend yourselves when most people in yer corp dont even have over 500k skill points vs players that have been playing for months and months with millions of skill points, is this their idea of fair? or are they just chicken****s that cant handle fighting people more in their league of skill and equipment?
Lyela convo me ingame or leave me a Eve-mail and we will work something out. My corp m8's and I will handle your pest problem
Hahahahaha .... yeah right !
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Posted - 2004.04.23 13:13:00 -
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Bring it on! The more the merrier!
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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.04.23 13:26:00 -
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If you don't want a war, then either don't join a corporation, or go play minesweeper.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 13:31:00 -
[59]
^^^ Exactly what I was talking about in a previous post, almost bad comedy.
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.04.23 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lyela
^^^ Exactly what I was talking about in a previous post, almost bad comedy.
What have you excepted? Let me explain:
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Stupid question, being new, how common is it for a "pirate corp" to declare war on a corp that is mostly full of newbs...(snip)
It was a question until that snip.
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(snip)...trying to learn the game and claim they where hired as a lame excuse, our corp just had this happen, and like to know how you are expected to defend yourselves when most people in yer corp dont even have over 500k skill points vs players that have been playing for months and months with millions of skill points, is this their idea of fair? or are they just chicken****s that cant handle fighting people more in their league of skill and equipment?
And this was the whine part of it. Now tell me which one is longer. Still you except people not to accuse you of whining? Dude, wake up, this is EVE Forums, they'll call u a whiner even if you are not, but only god can save you if you happen to be one.
And yes, reading all those posts about all the wars is like a bad comedy. ;)
Get some frineds, kick their a$$ back to where they came from, evade them, whatever, just no more 'omg, someone declared war on us. the bastards...' threads. Its already second on my list of worst threads. First is the 'why do i quit' type of thread.
A good point for you, you happened to post your thread in the right forum :P.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:01:00 -
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Well did I make the mistake of posting in the bounty forum looking for help, is that not the purpose of this area?
Why then was I directed to take this route, do not mistake the fact that im not running from anything, I have not quit my corp, nor do I plan to, I realize MF have nothing to gain attacking a bunch of newbs, the people losing out on the deal will be them wasting time not only that I gathered some very priceless intel from this threads existance and got a feel for the wonderfull forum community we have going here.
p.s. (that second part is called bait dear friend you figure this one out, its not hard > : ) )
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:08:00 -
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ps. its whining for me, and we are no way friends not until we drink or mine together, so no thank you.
You can twist the words as much you want, what matters is that you start to realize, that 'maybe' the original post was more than a simple question.
There is still hope for you.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Lyela on 23/04/2004 14:18:24
Oh I know the original post was more then a question, later when the game is up maybe ill eve-mail and explain a bit better its more then I want to share here. and send you a case of our finest, but no mining, I cant stand mining.
but I always have to take a stab at people who are incapable of anything original, yer replies actually had some wind to em. even if the topic of whining is dull.
Either way im pretty good at baiting, some would call me a master.
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Mephisha
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast
and would "having some guns" refer to numerouse ammounts of battleships sitting at a gate??
to be honest we have fought many corps with "big guns" as you call it, they are not too impressive
So fighting a noob corp in empire space would be like taking candy from a baby !
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:26:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Mephisha
Originally by: Dexter Rast
and would "having some guns" refer to numerouse ammounts of battleships sitting at a gate??
to be honest we have fought many corps with "big guns" as you call it, they are not too impressive
So fighting a noob corp in empire space would be like taking candy from a baby !
Sure, especially if said newborn looks like a 150kg security guard on steroids, as that what Leyla's corp looks like based on what we saw on this thread.
I agree, that attackng a 10 day old, 5-15 member corp looks like taking candy from a baby, but i wouldnt say their corp looks like a baby.
*standard answer follows*
So quit whining and live with it.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Mephisha
So fighting a noob corp in empire space would be like taking candy from a baby !
Noob this griefer that, alt the other..
FFS, change the record, this went out of the top 10 years ago!
Corp war like it or lump it is corp war, let's just fight and get on with it.
Luv n hugs xx
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.23 14:32:00 -
[67]
Originally by: csebal
Sure, especially if said newborn looks like a 150kg security guard on steroids, as that what Leyla's corp looks like based on what we saw on this thread.
I agree, that attackng a 10 day old, 5-15 member corp looks like taking candy from a baby, but i wouldnt say their corp looks like a baby.
*standard answer follows*
So quit whining and live with it.
Well said and the point I was trying to stress earlier, but not with the same level of articulation you posess.
On paper, we are outnumberd 2/3 to 1, if you can't kick inactive players that's your fault not ours.
You have older and newer players, so do we - eeek! does that mean that the noobs have declared on noobs?
Nope, get over it and fight, we got some ISK to make.
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 01:45:00 -
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We PVP. This is what we do. Sometimes people pay us to use our war slots, and sometimes, they don't. Mostly, other corps declare war on us.
We don't waste war slots. If we have a free slot, someone either
A: Pays us to fill it
B: Happens to be close to where we are at the time and looks like they would be fun to fight.
If any of you tards had a clue about MF, you would realize how utterly rediculous it is to accuse us of declaring war on a newb corp just so we can feel like "big men". We happen to have fought many wars against decidedly superior opponents (like Bladerunners, who camped our HQ with multiple battleships for days), and we have also fought wars with huge newb corps who posted a whine post, but later decided it was actually fun fighting us and that they might actually learn something doing it.
So suck it up, Sally. Hitch up your skirt, buy yourselves some frigates, and try to have fun. Your boring little mining lives might be the better for it.
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EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.04.24 02:16:00 -
[69]
just ask them to fight in frigs and only come with frigs, so you can have some fun with them for a very low price, when your not pleased with it you can leave your corp and join a noob corp again, where you may belong when you cant defend yourself
thats why thy called noob-corps 
Wanna fly with me?
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.24 02:34:00 -
[70]
Yes nafri god forbid you know, a group of new players getting together and figuring out the game, its people like you that seem to forget the serious difference in trained skills. great idea fight in frigs I bet every MF person is going to be flying around at 2.5-3k a sec with cruise missiles, fun my ass yer talking about commiting stupidcide. you all seem to forget for a complete newb the millions arent just rolling into the ISk account and going into battle when you are not proberly armed with the proper skills is laughable, either way gloat it up and puff your chests have fun station and gate camping. and thats not whining thats just using your brain why should someone even bother sacrificing a single ISK to people who have nothing better to do then pick fights, its like this when I look for a fight I go into low sec, I dont go looking thru corp lists trying to find someone I can force a war on to while making lame excuses about why I did.
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.24 02:38:00 -
[71]
So far I have not been playing as long as any of your players that I have found in various systems. My character can use MWD and cruise missiles so I fail to see why yours can not.
Anyway the wars on!
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 02:43:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Lyela
Yes nafri god forbid you know, a group of new players getting together and figuring out the game, its people like you that seem to forget the serious difference in trained skills. great idea fight in frigs I bet every MF person is going to be flying around at 2.5-3k a sec with cruise missiles, fun my ass yer talking about commiting stupidcide. you all seem to forget for a complete newb the millions arent just rolling into the ISk account and going into battle when you are not proberly armed with the proper skills is laughable, either way gloat it up and puff your chests have fun station and gate camping. and thats not whining thats just using your brain why should someone even bother sacrificing a single ISK to people who have nothing better to do then pick fights, its like this when I look for a fight I go into low sec, I dont go looking thru corp lists trying to find someone I can force a war on to while making lame excuses about why I did.
god, you're SUCH a whiner, it's gonna be fun seeing your cold dead body floating in space.
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EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.24 02:58:00 -
[73]
Yes im a whiner your an idiot, waste all the time you want trying to pod me, actually please waste ALL your time doing so.
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 03:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Lyela
Yes im a whiner your an idiot, waste all the time you want trying to pod me, actually please waste ALL your time doing so.
i dont consider it a waste of time. you just don't understand, do you?
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EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.24 03:17:00 -
[75]
I understand perfectly, I post a flame here to goad MF into replying, your members lulled in by the thought of flaming a poor whining newb go to town helping fill out my list of names that I couldnt find combing the forums here and at other popular sites previous to this post. durr or arrr in your case.
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 03:37:00 -
[76]
wait, am I to understand that now you want to fight? or is this just another pathetic attempt at being "clever"?
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EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.24 03:41:00 -
[77]
How it is Vodalus is this, I dont mind fighting up to this point its been all with NPCs tho due to the fact that I need way more skill points before I can keep up 1v1, on the other hand there is people in the corp that shouldnt be fighting, so at the same time im worried that yer gonna run them off with a pointless war, thats why i say come after me, sure Ill be outnumbered and will be podded in seconds buts thats time you wasted on me, other then that have fun im not jumping into a suicidal situation
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La Muerte
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Posted - 2004.04.24 03:48:00 -
[78]
Bladibladibladi,mine is bigger then yours.Are you that worried about pirates?Well,the universe is one big place and they can't be everywhere at the same time.So what is the problem?
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 04:33:00 -
[79]
hehe. this thread become to be fun *g*
also my main goal is to protect corp.-members from being harmed by MF
how I will do this - is my business
and what MF want - is not my problem
and don't expect from me, that I'll help MF by doing their "dirty job" just because someone shoot here with hot words...
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.04.24 06:44:00 -
[80]
Petition. Wars created for no in-game reason whatsoever are considered harrasment and can be punished severely.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.24 07:18:00 -
[81]
I love you vodalus, will you marry me?
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2004.04.24 07:33:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Silverlancer
Petition. Wars created for no in-game reason whatsoever are considered harrasment and can be punished severely.
This bit of b.s. brought to you by resident minister of misinformation, Silverlacer.
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Zelota > my hands are the best
Zelota > and i can kill every ship in this game on my own in a rupture
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.24 07:50:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Stratosfear
Originally by: Silverlancer
Petition. Wars created for no in-game reason whatsoever are considered harrasment and can be punished severely.
This bit of b.s. brought to you by resident minister of misinformation, Silverlacer.
seconded.
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 08:17:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Lyela
I love you vodalus, will you marry me?
No way, I can already tell you would just complain all the time. 
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EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.24 10:39:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Grimster on 24/04/2004 10:40:13
Originally by: Silverlancer
Petition. Wars created for no in-game reason whatsoever are considered harrasment and can be punished severely.
We both know this piece of information is absolute rubbish. Last time we saw you in an involved thread SL you were gonna make things bad for us I seem to remember... that still gonna happen? Hope so
Anyhoo, as has been earlier posted this is not for no reason, a jobs a job, same as mining/pirating/ore theft etc. no matter if you like it or not, it's gonna happen.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 13:29:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Grimster
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Anyhoo, as has been earlier posted this is not for no reason, a jobs a job, same as mining/pirating/ore theft etc. no matter if you like it or not, it's gonna happen.
and decisions still be decisions, no matter where You met them - in game or in real life
and only decisions characterise people
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.24 13:40:00 -
[87]
that is very deep and thoughtful
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Bryon Krause
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Posted - 2004.04.24 17:18:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Bryon Krause on 24/04/2004 17:32:29
Edited by: Bryon Krause on 24/04/2004 17:28:10
So here's a question for MF. Now that you know the corp in question that your attacking is made up of mostly new people with less then 20 days played. Most of which are more or less miners and most of which really don't care to much for pvp. Are you gonna get some balls and go find a Corp that actually wants to have fun in pvp or are ya gonna gloat over the fact that you can kill people in mining vessels?
I don't care what online game your playing its always been in bad taste to keep this sort of crap up once you know the truth of the situation. If MF is as good as you say you guys are I would rather see you go and use your skills someplace more useful like ridding some of the 0.4 and below sectors of the gate campers. That would be honorable and would actually earn you guys some respect from me. Attacking miners and telling them how they should play the game doesn't equal honorable in any way, shape, or form. And i'm sorry but most of your answers and excuses here about that's just how EVE is and whatever and whatnot is a bunch of garbage.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.24 17:28:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Dexter Rast on 24/04/2004 17:35:49
Edited by: Dexter Rast on 24/04/2004 17:30:58
NO Bryon, does that answer your question
as for attacking a corp of 20 day old players i ask you how all of them i have spotted so far are flying round in tier3 cruisers
just because one of them goes public for the sympathy vote dont make everything he/she says fact.
the war will go ahead as planned, and as for growing some balls or whatever you obviously dont have a clue who we are or who we have been at war with in the past so please reserve you comments to fact and not fiction..
cheers
Quote:
I don't care what online game your playing its always been in bad taste to keep this sort of crap up once you know the truth of the situation. If MF is as good as you say you guys are I would rather see you go and use your skills someplace more useful like ridding some of the 0.4 and below sectors of the gate campers. That would be honorable and would actually earn you guys some respect from me.
Why would we go around removing gate camper? we also do a bit of that ourselves, makes no sense to me, and as for earning your respect, we neither want it or need it, but thank you for your concern
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Bryon Krause
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:18:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Bryon Krause on 24/04/2004 18:28:44
So basically your gonna pick on miners and new players in order increase the size of your imaginary cyber reproductive organs. Man, you guys are way to cool. GO GO MF!
And to answer your question about the level 3 cruisers it is because the folks in the corp happen to be extremely nice people who work well together and share alot between themselves. They are out to have fun and make friends. Not be hounded by (insert your favorite insulting name here) players. The facts Lyela stated are true. The corp might have 80 people registered but only about 20 or 30 actually play. Alot of them are new folks recruited who are under the 10 day free trial period and who are trying to learn the game and see if they want to stick with it. So instead of helping to increase the player base of the game by actually letting them get interested your instead out to frustrate them into leaveing. Way to go. The game will definately last for a long time if we go around chasing all the new players away.
I'm sorry but if you think at the end your actually gonna score some type of victory the only thing you will really have done is made yourselves look pathetic by picking on weaker and inexperienced targets.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast
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you obviously dont have a clue who we are or who we have been at war with in the past so please reserve you comments to fact and not fiction..
sure we don't know, who You are
but I bet You are group of puberty-old boys, who is hardly desired to be noticed...
irony of life is, that nobody is really interesting on skin deep people
and profound people normally does not need unnecessary attention...
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:28:00 -
[92]
i dont know why the **** im bumping this ****, but here goes.
it's a game. pvp system in this game sucks ass, so we do the best we can to have some fun. at your expense? so? try fighting back, u might like it. we're all nice and we're more than willing to help you learn. being a newb isnt an excuse for being a *****.
if u DONT wanna fight back, just move your damn corp. there are tons of 0.7-1.0 systems out there, away from us.
ultimately, this IS a pvp game. why the **** do u mine? why do u manufacture? to get enuf money to buy modules and ships. i mean, why play this game to mine and build your own perfect little business model? u can to that in real life. make real money, etc.
and uh, just to clarify, we pick on corps with most players, so that we can find us some fun easier. when we declare a war, we cant differentiate a newb corp from an uber mega corp (many of which we have fought btw).
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:28:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Bryon Krause
So basically your gonna pick on miners and new players in order increase the size of your imaginary cyber reproductive organs. Man, you guys are way to cool. GO GO MF!
Yeah, we pretty much rule.
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Prodigious on 24/04/2004 18:35:52
Originally by: K'isa
Originally by: Dexter Rast
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you obviously dont have a clue who we are or who we have been at war with in the past so please reserve you comments to fact and not fiction..
sure we don't know, who You are
but I bet You are group of puberty-old boys, who is hardly desired to be noticed...
irony of life is, that nobody is really interesting on skin deep people
and profound people normally does not need unnecessary attention...
wow, u sure are the perfect example of a mature invividual. that's why u play EVE, right?
we dont want attention, we just wanna blow stuff up and have some fun. wtf is wrong with you? why cant u comprehend that?
oh, and for the record, im probably the only 18 year old in this corp. does it show? i dont care.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:35:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Prodigious
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why the **** do u mine? why do u manufacture? to get enuf money to buy modules and ships. i mean, why play this game to mine and build your own perfect little business model? u can to that in real life. make real money, etc.
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<hehe> haven't You heard, that people are different ?
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:39:00 -
[96]
Originally by: K'isa
Originally by: Prodigious
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why the **** do u mine? why do u manufacture? to get enuf money to buy modules and ships. i mean, why play this game to mine and build your own perfect little business model? u can to that in real life. make real money, etc.
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<hehe> haven't You heard, that people are different ?
yeah i heard. i love diversity. that's why u gotta learn to co-exist with the pvp group, and vice versa.
however, what youre saying hypocritical cuz a second ago, u were complaining about us having fun in our own way. nuff said.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:52:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Prodigious
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wow, u sure are the perfect example of a mature invividual. that's why u play EVE, right?
we dont want attention, we just wanna blow stuff up and have some fun. wtf is wrong with you? why cant u comprehend that?
oh, and for the record, im probably the only 18 year old in this corp. does it show? i dont care.
<hehe> You are pretty fun
if You "just wanna blow stuff up and have some fun" - go to CA-space
believe me, it's very nice place for such purposes, especially during CA is in war with somebody (what is often the case)
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Bryon Krause
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Posted - 2004.04.24 18:56:00 -
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The game is not just PVP like you seem to think it is. The game is able to suit people of all playing styles and there are plenty of folks out there who would love to fight it out with you ingame. But for some reason you are instead choosing to pick on the ones who would much rather play the game for the industrial or player vs computer aspect of it. I'm sure its plainly obvious by now to a large portion of the people who are not from either corp what you guys are up to. Stick to the 0.5 and above zones and pick fights with folks you know you can handle. Hide behind all kinds of stupid things like "we were hired" "its a pvp game" and whatever else ya want to but the truth is obvious to everyone.
I spent years playing Ultima Online seeing the player killers griefing anyone and everyone they can. You should ask them what thier PVP game is like now. Its utterly destroyed because after so long of ticking people off the game developers finally made it damn near impossible for them to really have fun doing what they like to do. If they had stuck to fighting each other then half the stupid rules that went in force regarding PvP wouldn't have gone in but they forced there implementation to protect those that had no interest at all in it.
So go ahead and attack your miners and your new players. I'm sure you'll be the ones ticked when the game gets changed so ya can't even hardly pvp in a 0.0 zone anymore. The more games this sort of garbage happens in now the less pvp options you'll see in future games down the road as other developers watch how such things ruin the game or cause people to quit or never start playing to begin with. There are far more non pvp gamers out there then there are those who enjoy it 24 7.
So awesome job MF, way to pick on the newbies. Keep up the good work.
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Prodigious on 24/04/2004 19:05:58
firstly, dont tell us where to go or what to do.
secondly, u seem to be ignoring my point about different types of players coexisting. u kinda brought it up tho. and yes i agree, without miners and carebears, there'd b significantly less stuff to kill.
what most of your dont seem to realize is that each one of us would prefer a fair 1on1 pvp battle against equally matched or more experienced opponent. however, we dont really have much choice atm.
thirdly, we dont kill for your isk or your mods, so we're not rats.
lastly, stop contradicting yourselves.
thanks, i think im funny too. sometimes.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:10:00 -
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Quote:
The game is not just PVP like you seem to think it is. The game is able to suit people of all playing styles and there are plenty of folks out there who would love to fight it out with you ingame. But for some reason you are instead choosing to pick on the ones who would much rather play the game for the industrial or player vs computer aspect of it. I'm sure its plainly obvious by now to a large portion of the people who are not from either corp what you guys are up to. Stick to the 0.5 and above zones and pick fights with folks you know you can handle. Hide behind all kinds of stupid things like "we were hired" "its a pvp game" and whatever else ya want to but the truth is obvious to everyone.
blah blah blah, nice speech, save it for someone who cares
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Prodigious
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yeah i heard. i love diversity. that's why u gotta learn to co-exist with the pvp group, and vice versa.
however, what youre saying hypocritical cuz a second ago, u were complaining about us having fun in our own way. nuff said.
thank this war I have now lot of fun (I like this conversation ;-))
and do You know what ? not You are our problem (You are simple nuisance for new corp.-members, who still learning game-playing) but rather we are Yours, because You could not catch our mind and we don't play the way You wanted impose us
and now You are really in trouble - You cann not cancel this war without loosing Your face and You cann not win this war without loosing Your face...
<hehe> isn't this fun ?
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:16:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Grimster on 24/04/2004 19:18:34
Bryon Krause.
Dude, find another topic to troll, you're not contributing.
Grimster out.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:17:00 -
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Quote:
and now You are really in trouble - You cann not cancel this war without loosing Your face and You cann not win this war without loosing Your face...
why is that? we have no face, we do not crave for honour, those things you seem to think we will loose make no difference to us,
water off a ducks back to us me`dear
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:22:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Dexter Rast
Quote:
and now You are really in trouble - You cann not cancel this war without loosing Your face and You cann not win this war without loosing Your face...
why is that? we have no face, we do not crave for honour, those things you seem to think we will loose make no difference to us,
water off a ducks back to us me`dear
oh, really ? then I'm happy for You
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Bryon Krause
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:37:00 -
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I have just as much right to post in this topic as you do grim. Or are you really that thick skulled?
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holy jo
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:40:00 -
[106]
Quote:
I have just as much right to post in this topic as you do grim. Or are you really that thick skulled?
BLESS YOU MY SON
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:41:00 -
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we dont care about winning or losing. we just wanna blow u up. s'all about the adrenaline rush
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:42:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Bryon Krause
I have just as much right to post in this topic as you do grim. Or are you really that thick skulled?
Troll.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:49:00 -
[109]
Please keep the replies civil and respectful.
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2004.04.25 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 25/04/2004 18:47:31
Sitting here at work it's nice to have something entertaining to read, thank you all.
To everyone:
Those who know what fighting is like will understand, those who do not know, will soon have their "flower" removed. Mercenary Forces can do it in a tastefull, gently manner using small, inexpensive ships, or you can have some brute "deflower" your innocent corporation using fleets of battleships.
I had a conversation with a few of the lads in mf some weeks ago, and we realized that we were in fact changing EVE one corporation at a time. We harden your corp. We trim the fat from your corp. We twack you in the face with the harsh reality of EVE, and as a result your corporation will become hard as bare-knockle fistfighting champion.
We agreed that if there was a button that allowed you to declare war on everyone, we would have our CEO press it, sadly there isnt. EVE has become a sad, carefree place were people live in harmony and peace.
To all those who plan on "going to 0.0 and building a base..." I say; learn how to fight, learn it now, do it cheaply, in cheap ships, get rid of the lazy fat bastards in your corp that wont lift a finger to assist the rest of you, get rid of the freeloaders, learn to use voice comms, build your sense of community, become a bunch of dead-'ard badboy yardies, instead of pencil-pushing diplomats.
You dont mine to just have the minerals sit there do you? You mine to USE them dont you? You want to be rich? why? just so you can go "look I have a billion ISK" or is it to buy something? Buy a blueprint, buy a battleship, buy a hundred cruisers, buy missiles, just do something with your cash.
ISK is just a reflection of how much time you've spent playing, stockpiling it is senseless if there's no goal...
EDIT: Want an exiting career? Want to escape the drudgery of staring at rocks for hour on end while the fat cats up the corporate ladder get fatter? Want to harden yourself? Want to challenge yourself?
Join Mercenary Forces, become a mercenary.
You're expected to be able to fund yourself ie. buying ships and stuff to shoot people with.
Once you join you wont have access to any hangars so dont ask. You also wont have access to our forum until we decide you can. This is to avoid all but the most persistant alt-spies, nothing to do with lack of trust of you personally, it's just that we feel you have to earn it.
Go to our offices in Litirua, apply and please include a comprehensive application text. Include some details on why you want to join, your past experiences in EVE, just write something or you will be automatically rejected.
You can also talk to me if you like (evemail preferred, but you can try conversations as I will set auto-reject if I am busy).
Dont get get mad if I dont reply right away as I may be busy shooting people or figuring the odds of a single frigate surviving a frontal assault on 5 battleships and their escorts...
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Posted - 2004.04.25 19:23:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 25/04/2004 18:47:31
I had a conversation with a few of the lads in mf some weeks ago, and we realized that we were in fact changing EVE one corporation at a time. We harden your corp. We trim the fat from your corp. We twack you in the face with the harsh reality of EVE, and as a result your corporation will become hard as bare-knockle fistfighting champion.
Quite true, when MF was still Merc Frigs before reforming there went to war with my corp, at first some of us wined but in the end after the war it lead to waking up and figuring out we need to expand our operations and we have 10 fold.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.25 20:52:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Zerodragoon
Quite true, when MF was still Merc Frigs before reforming there went to war with my corp, at first some of us wined but in the end after the war it lead to waking up and figuring out we need to expand our operations and we have 10 fold.
Zerodragoon, although we thank you kindly for your timely input here, beware that your operations may yet be your undoing.
Azziza has taken it into her increasingly deranged personality to smite corporations that are indeed flowering, and to instill fear and loathing for MF throughout EvE!
The pieces are in play and the strategy is slowly forming. Beware citizens of EvE, a storm is rising.....
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.26 04:41:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 25/04/2004 18:47:31
Sitting here at work it's nice to have something entertaining to read, thank you all.
To everyone:
Those who know what fighting is like will understand, those who do not know, will soon have their "flower" removed. Mercenary Forces can do it in a tastefull, gently manner using small, inexpensive ships, or you can have some brute "deflower" your innocent corporation using fleets of battleships.
....
<hehe> and one more time this confirm what I already said - MFs are (at least psychological ;-)) little boys, who is trying to be noticed by world as somthing important *grin*
again and again, boys: senseless movements are not the best way to reach this...
but I am not Your teacher and world's lessons are very hard and unexpected - so enjoy Your carefree fun as long You can
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Lamech
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Posted - 2004.04.26 05:39:00 -
[114]
Mercanary forces are newbs....I was in a blackbird and found two of them in ruptures ina belt. They had on mwd's but I thought I would engage them anyways just for fun. They out ran my missiles and got a few shots on me and I realized it was pointless to fight something I couldn't hit so I warped to the safety of a gate. They both followed and fired on me losing their ships. Don't fear people just because they declare war on you. They are noobs...get some guns and shoot back...you'll probaly win
the BIG L
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TheUnkown
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Posted - 2004.04.26 05:46:00 -
[115]
Quote:
Zerodragoon, although we thank you kindly for your timely input here, beware that your operations may yet be your undoing.
Azziza has taken it into her increasingly deranged personality to smite corporations that are indeed flowering, and to instill fear and loathing for MF throughout EvE!
The pieces are in play and the strategy is slowly forming. Beware citizens of EvE, a storm is rising.....
Im curious grimstir exactly what do u mean by that statement....that eventually azz would turn on us and try a war with us again...just a question as im wondering what u mean by that statement
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.26 06:12:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Lamech
Mercanary forces are newbs....I was in a blackbird and found two of them in ruptures ina belt. They had on mwd's but I thought I would engage them anyways just for fun. They out ran my missiles and got a few shots on me and I realized it was pointless to fight something I couldn't hit so I warped to the safety of a gate. They both followed and fired on me losing their ships. Don't fear people just because they declare war on you. They are noobs...get some guns and shoot back...you'll probaly win
I have the same point of vew, my friend !
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.04.26 06:32:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Maiwenn LeBesc0
Why do I get the feeling that Mercenary Forces are hiring themselves to go and beat up on newbie corps to make themselves look tough so people will start hiring them? I mean, I wonder why their supposed employers deem it neccessary to hire someone to kill players who can't defend themselves.. sounds very suspicious to me.
I think I might hire you guys to take out m0o or Evolution or another corp who actually has some guns, just to give these newbie corps a bit of enjoyment back at your expense.
LOL.
Didn't know that Evolution and m0o went into the forum whiners and carebears protection business.
If I should guess who murdered the most carebears you want to protect here I'd say m0o and I know that Evolution murdered for fun as well.
Hilarious.
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Stories: #1
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Azziza Meekstone
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Posted - 2004.04.26 08:45:00 -
[118]
WAR is upon you all !! .. well maybe some.
*Theyre coming to take me away ! ho ho hi hi ha ha!!* |
Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.26 10:08:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Lamech
Mercanary forces are newbs....I was in a blackbird and found two of them in ruptures ina belt. They had on mwd's but I thought I would engage them anyways just for fun. They out ran my missiles and got a few shots on me and I realized it was pointless to fight something I couldn't hit so I warped to the safety of a gate. They both followed and fired on me losing their ships. Don't fear people just because they declare war on you. They are noobs...get some guns and shoot back...you'll probaly win
It's true - most of MF are noobs. 
Now go get guns!
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.26 11:01:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Grimster on 26/04/2004 11:03:02
Originally by: TheUnkown
Im curious grimstir exactly what do u mean by that statement....that eventually azz would turn on us and try a war with us again...just a question as im wondering what u mean by that statement
I fear Azziza aims to make war on all corps - one at a time if needs be. As previously mentioned she appears to be having - aehm - difficulty accepting the peaceful intentions of most people in the EvE universe....
Some of MF have shown concern for Azziza's mental state but are sworn by a blood oath to follow her - to the end if required.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.04.26 18:58:00 -
[121]
Quote:
Mercanary forces are newbs....I was in a blackbird and found two of them in ruptures ina belt. They had on mwd's but I thought I would engage them anyways just for fun. They out ran my missiles and got a few shots on me and I realized it was pointless to fight something I couldn't hit so I warped to the safety of a gate. They both followed and fired on me losing their ships. Don't fear people just because they declare war on you. They are noobs...get some guns and shoot back...you'll probaly win
It was ME ME ME!
yeah i am the brainless noob who followed you to the gate first, wasnt realy up with the rules of non-corp war PvP, figured you were up for the taking,
good job you ran away or you would of been waking up in your cloning station
but if you are so sure of yourself declare war on us and then you dont have the luxury of running to the safety of the gates.. boo hoo 
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.26 19:21:00 -
[122]
I amuse myself glorious by seeing how MF try to look be feared by EVE-society
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2004.04.26 20:57:00 -
[123]
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.27 01:06:00 -
[124]
Originally by: K'isa
I amuse myself glorious by seeing how MF try to look be feared by EVE-society
Feared enough to make Wildcats disappear
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.27 03:32:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: K'isa
I amuse myself glorious by seeing how MF try to look be feared by EVE-society
Feared enough to make Wildcats disappear
it is not the evening
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Friez
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Posted - 2004.04.27 03:55:00 -
[126]
Apparently I was wrong, but I thought you couldn't PvP in .5 or above space. Can you be safe anywhere?
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.27 04:27:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Friez
Apparently I was wrong, but I thought you couldn't PvP in .5 or above space. Can you be safe anywhere?
as long You aren't in war with someone, You are relatively safe in .5+
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Friez
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Posted - 2004.04.27 05:11:00 -
[128]
Thanks! I'm very noobalicious and was getting nervous.
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Malar
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Posted - 2004.04.27 11:41:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Malar on 27/04/2004 11:44:42
Originally by: K'isa
I amuse myself glorious by seeing how MF try to look be feared by EVE-society
I've sworn to help MF achieve whatever goals the leaders may set, go after whoever the leaders point at, sacrifice myself if that helps us achieve the higher goal. I do not need others to fear me and i do not want to seem mighty or powerful.
I still think you belong to the majority of people with the way you are thinking, and i also think that you'll never understand what i mean with that.
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.27 15:34:00 -
[130]
Edited by: K'isa on 27/04/2004 17:16:08
Edited by: K'isa on 27/04/2004 15:40:48
Edited by: K'isa on 27/04/2004 15:37:27
Edited by: K'isa on 27/04/2004 15:36:46
Originally by: Malar
Edited by: Malar on 27/04/2004 11:44:42
Originally by: K'isa
I amuse myself glorious by seeing how MF try to look be feared by EVE-society
I've sworn to help MF achieve whatever goals the leaders may set, go after whoever the leaders point at, sacrifice myself if that helps us achieve the higher goal. I do not need others to fear me and i do not want to seem mighty or powerful.
I still think you belong to the majority of people with the way you are thinking, and i also think that you'll never understand what i mean with that.
THIS is the point !
This is the main difference between MFs and Wild Cats !
we are individuals with own heads
You are follower without fear
Your goal is to serve Your leader
our concern is to help each other
we are looking for new friends
You are looking for new targets
we accept and respect individuality of other people
but You hate all what is not similar to You
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world (and not only EVE-world) is full with people like You
such people can good demolish, but this don't solve their problems
and this is everywhere the same history:
followers always find some leader, who is very happy to give them purpose to life and to save they from need to think with own head
and as next he/she send they "whoever the leaders point at" to "achieve the higher goal"
and what do this mean ?
they are simple looking for friendly people, because they should not be hard to deal with
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and don't think, that I cann not understand Your point of vew
it is rather I cann not accept it...
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.27 19:31:00 -
[131]
Originally by: K'isa
Edited by: K'isa on 27/04/2004 17:16:08
THIS is the point !
This is the main difference between MFs and Wild Cats !
we are individuals with own heads
You are follower without fear
You don't know a single one of us.
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Your goal is to serve Your leader
our concern is to help each other
Teamwork is absolutely critical to our way of life, so once again, you prove your total ignorance of MF.
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we are looking for new friends
You are looking for new targets
This is just rediculous, and shows your complete ignorance of our corp. We have gained more new members and new friends in the last month than ever before. Our corp is growing fast.
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we accept and respect individuality of other people
but You hate all what is not similar to You
No, but we DO hate whiny carebear forum warriors.
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world (and not only EVE-world) is full with people like You
such people can good demolish, but this don't solve their problems
and this is everywhere the same history:
followers always find some leader, who is very happy to give them purpose to life and to save they from need to think with own head
and as next he/she send they "whoever the leaders point at" to "achieve the higher goal"
and what do this mean ?
they are simple looking for friendly people, because they should not be hard to deal with
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and don't think, that I cann not understand Your point of vew
it is rather I cann not accept it...
Let me remind you THIS IS NOT THE REAL WORLD. This is a game, a game based on Player vs. Player combat. We choose to play this game the way it was meant to be played and to exploit the mechanics of War to our advantage. We don't play for any other reason than fun. Sorry that you can't accept it. It seems to me that you have appointed yourself arbitrator of what EVE is about, but in point of fact, your opinions are sorely un-informed. If you didn't understand the RP element in what the person you quoted said, then that's your problem.
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EVE is primarily a PVP game
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K'isa
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Posted - 2004.04.27 19:48:00 -
[132]
there are at least 3 types of fighters:
1) search for soft targets, to be able to win
2) search for hard targets, to be able to learn
3) ...
I think MFs count to the first one
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:11:00 -
[133]
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Azar Petrossian
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:32:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Vodalus
Let me remind you THIS IS NOT THE REAL WORLD. This is a game, a game based on Player vs. Player combat. We choose to play this game the way it was meant to be played and to exploit the mechanics of War to our advantage. We don't play for any other reason than fun. Sorry that you can't accept it. It seems to me that you have appointed yourself arbitrator of what EVE is about, but in point of fact, your opinions are sorely un-informed. If you didn't understand the RP element in what the person you quoted said, then that's your problem.
I'm so tired of people hiding behind this excuse. "We don't play for any other reason than fun."
Your idea of fun is someone else's misery. Here you are, admittedly declaring war on a bunch of noobs, just to have "fun". That's very big of you.
Quote:
12.11 What is grief play?
A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players.
This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.
People that claim to have fun, when their fun consists of ruining other people's gameplay, are the textbook definition of a griefer.
It is common knowledge that despite claiming to be "mercenaries" you have never actually been paid to declare war on anyone. You are the biggest sham corporation in the game. You claim to be "just doing your jobs" when really the truth is you get off on blowing up noobs who cannot defend themselves.
Bravo to you.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:34:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Azar Petrossian
It is common knowledge that despite claiming to be "mercenaries" you have never actually been paid to declare war on anyone. You are the biggest sham corporation in the game. You claim to be "just doing your jobs" when really the truth is you get off on blowing up noobs who cannot defend themselves.
Bravo to you.
Wrong.
Currently running 2 contracts, and another for fun
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Azar Petrossian
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:44:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Azar Petrossian
It is common knowledge that despite claiming to be "mercenaries" you have never actually been paid to declare war on anyone. You are the biggest sham corporation in the game. You claim to be "just doing your jobs" when really the truth is you get off on blowing up noobs who cannot defend themselves.
Bravo to you.
Wrong.
Currently running 2 contracts, and another for fun
And I'm the Queen of England.
Here, have a crumpet.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:45:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Grimster on 27/04/2004 20:47:34
You're funny
I have stated in previous posts when we are having one for fun, and when we have a war for money. I could understand your argument if the only line was "Oh yeah - all our jobs are contract" the truth is they are not.
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Azar Petrossian
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:50:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Azar Petrossian on 27/04/2004 20:52:02
The truth is that none of your wars are for money. If you are going to continue to argue this nonsense, then prove it.
You honestly expect us to believe you declared war on Wild Cats because someone paid you? Please. Give me a break.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:54:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Azar Petrossian
The truth is that none of your wars are for money. If you are going to continue to argue this nonsense, then prove it.
Now I know you're taking the mickey.
Like we'd ever get another job if one of us started mouthing off about who hired us for jobs.
Check out the war slots for MF, if I say it's a fun one then it is, if not it's a job, simple.
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:01:00 -
[140]
Originally by: K'isa
there are at least 3 types of fighters:
1) search for soft targets, to be able to win
2) search for hard targets, to be able to learn
3) ...
I think MFs count to the first one
just more proof that you have no clue what you are talking about.
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Originally by: Oveur
EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:08:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Grimster on 27/04/2004 21:11:02
Kinetic Vector - Soft target - No - Job - Yes
Wildcats - Soft target - Yes - Job - Yes
Celestial - Soft target - No - Job - No
Other Merc Forces wars.
Starlight - Soft target - No - Job - No
Lan-P - Soft target - Yes - Job - Yes
Happy?
At the end of the day we don't really care who we fight and for what reasons, and frankly your opinion doesn't matter.
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Shevaun Ashnirelim
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Posted - 2004.04.28 02:59:00 -
[142]
What an angry little carebear. Feed him some cotton candy!
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Bryon Krause
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Posted - 2004.04.28 03:05:00 -
[143]
Absolutely amazing how you guys keep sticking to the BS excuse about being hired even tho everyone knows the truth. MF looks for corps that they can beat upon until that corp actually starts to get the better of them and then they cancel the war claiming the contract or whatever is done. And don't go saying "you don't know us blah blah blah". Most of us people who have been playing online games for years now have seen your type multiple times before. Your excuses for griefing people have been recycled more times then anyone can count. Hopefully someone from CCP is keeping an eye on this thread and others like it and realizing like other online game developers have that they need to do something about this.
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Prodigious
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Posted - 2004.04.28 06:52:00 -
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I think K'isa and this post should disappear. I know im bumping it and thus prolonging the carebear assault, but i have a few things to say, like.. uhm.. a summary:
- this is a freakin game, so RL situations do not really apply
- the above fact allows us to wage wars on anyone and pvp because it's fun, and we like having fun. that's what games are for (in layman's terms)
- contracts and profit from the ****ty merc system in this game are negligible; hence we only get entertainment out of this, which is all that matters
- we have a CEO, but we're very much a team; Azziza is a nice guy who's in charge technically, but he's just one of us. we're all nice and friendly people, jus havin fun, and welcoming new players.
- finally, i dont give a **** about anything ELSE that u say cuz it's most likely an extremely biased statement, a misconception or a reflection of your ignorance; i mean WTF, you keep purusing your own stupid little arguments, as if youre not reading anything that we're saying.
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Azziza Meekstone
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Posted - 2004.04.28 07:02:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Bryon Krause
Absolutely amazing how you guys keep sticking to the BS excuse about being hired even tho everyone knows the truth. MF looks for corps that they can beat upon until that corp actually starts to get the better of them and then they cancel the war claiming the contract or whatever is done. And don't go saying "you don't know us blah blah blah". Most of us people who have been playing online games for years now have seen your type multiple times before. Your excuses for griefing people have been recycled more times then anyone can count. Hopefully someone from CCP is keeping an eye on this thread and others like it and realizing like other online game developers have that they need to do something about this.
I got two words for you ....
lol
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.28 07:45:00 -
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Poor Bryon is fwitened of losing his ship..
STFU and get over it, and stay still next time I see yah
Speak to the corps I listed as No for soft targets and see if they consider themselves so? I'm sure you'll be suprised at the answers, in truth most corps we do declare on welcome a change from the drudgery, OK they might not like the one-sidedness of a war dec but that's how it is.
I find it odd that you are so quick to have a go when you obviously ain't doing your homework. Try getting your facts straight.
Stay back after school for detention.
The system work how it works, if we choose to play with the system then there can't be an issue with it, sure, you might not like it but I'm definately not gonna sit and chop rocks because you don't like us coming to get you.
Do yourself a favour, arm a frigate, get out of whatever station you're hiding in stop whining and come play the game, believe me, you will have fun.
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Lyela
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Posted - 2004.04.28 08:06:00 -
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For love of god let it die, has this thread dropped off the front page yet? lol
and btw put the battleship/s away and some of us will come out to play more. if we are gonna learn id rather learn against cruisers/frigs then getting insta ganked > : P
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.28 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lyela
For love of god let it die, has this thread dropped off the front page yet? lol
and btw put the battleship/s away and some of us will come out to play more. if we are gonna learn id rather learn against cruisers/frigs then getting insta ganked > : P
That's more like it!
I don't know about the BS's I think only Azz drives one occasionaly, most of us still stick to the old MF thing of flying frigates anyway (unless necessary).
Unfortunately I personally have a job over in Solitude but I'm sure some of the guys will be able to sort something out with ya.
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Fager
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Posted - 2004.04.28 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast
Oh here we go again,
As stated a number of times before, we war who we like when we like as a corp, we also do contracts for who we like when we like,
reffering to us as a pirate corp is a common misconception, just because players like PvP does not make them pirates.
grab a frigate, see you in space
p.s. you never know, you might actualy enjoy it
Starting a war for no reason with a corp way weeker then you just to PvP?
That is no Person VS Person, thats Person vs Noob, I think this is week if you have no more reason then 'to PvP'.
Althou i dont know the details about this, and if you have a valid reason or a reason at all, Forget this post
Also its not braking any rule to war against noobs for no reason so it is no subject to complain about, Starting a corp is though, get allies!
My 2 isk..
"I can predict the movement of the stars but not the madness of men"
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.28 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fager
Starting a war for no reason with a corp way weeker then you just to PvP?
That is no Person VS Person, thats Person vs Noob, I think this is week if you have no more reason then 'to PvP'.
Read the whole thread (you could prolly skip most of the whining though).
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Malar
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Posted - 2004.04.28 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bryon Krause
Most of us people who have been playing online games for years now have seen your type multiple times before. Your excuses for griefing people have been recycled more times then anyone can count.
Erm, "Most of us people who have been playing online games for years now have seen your type multiple times before. Your whining and accusation of griefing towards whoever listens have been recycled more times then anyone can count."
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Malar
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Posted - 2004.04.28 10:51:00 -
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Well, for all the 'how lame' sayers, and the 'we are picking on the weak' maniacs:
As my mates already told you countless times: decalre war on us. Get your friends and whack our a$$es. We are lame noobs afterall, unable to hurt anyone except the weakest noobs.. Why is everyone afraid to spend a warslot then?
Words and insults will not kill us, and none of you guys got the desintegrating gaze of a beholder, so either come out and fight, or well... do not waste your precious time telling us how 'weak' we are.
Oh, and K'isa: I have no fear, my only goal is to serve, i'm always looking for targets and yes, i hate everyone, including myself for wasting my time on the forums ;)
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holy jo
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Posted - 2004.04.28 10:57:00 -
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Yup please come and pod me
Bless you all
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Davlan Locheck
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Posted - 2004.04.28 11:35:00 -
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If you really don't want to fight, then create alts, don't train anything, get them into your corp, and everytime the mf guys come at you, switch to your alt and just keep flying at them in your noob ships, you won't loose anything and they'll soon get bored.
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Bryon Krause
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Posted - 2004.04.28 11:53:00 -
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Azziza, lol is not a word or even two words. It is an acronym for three words. Get an education before you post please.
Grimster, Again you default to thinking that the game is all about pvp and pvp alone. You fail to realize there are alot of people that want nothing to do with the way you want to play the game or be forced into such. CCP is going to realize that more players = more money. The way to get more players beyond what they currently have right now is to do something about griefing players like you. I know quite a few who would play but quote how its to easy right now for player killers to get away with stupid crap right now. Which goes back to what I said earlier about your gonna hate the changes they will eventually do to the game to get more players to come to it. You will of course become, to use a stupid term that you folks result to way to much, a whiner.
It amazes me how you always go back to calling everyone "whiners" also when all they are doing is pointing out that your being a jackass. Seriously, do you understand how pathetic it makes you look going around attacking people in slow ships armed only with mining lasers? I think we all realize that you just can't hack it in a place where the real skilled pvp players in this game are. Thus the reason you result to picking on the new unskilled players and people that want nothing to do with it like you do. Its not something you can deny because its so blatantly obvious. I'm sure your gonna respond to this with another one of your idiotic posts. I actually welcome it because the more this thread gets bumped, the more stupid posts you make, the more CCP is gonna realize the crap that is going on and do something about it to change the game.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Grimster on 28/04/2004 12:39:03
Originally by: Bryon Krause
Azziza, lol is not a word or even two words. It is an acronym for three words. Get an education before you post please.
Grimster, Again you default to thinking that the game is all about pvp and pvp alone. You fail to realize there are alot of people that want nothing to do with the way you want to play the game or be forced into such. CCP is going to realize that more players = more money. The way to get more players beyond what they currently have right now is to do something about griefing players like you. I know quite a few who would play but quote how its to easy right now for player killers to get away with stupid crap right now. Which goes back to what I said earlier about your gonna hate the changes they will eventually do to the game to get more players to come to it. You will of course become, to use a stupid term that you folks result to way to much, a whiner.
It amazes me how you always go back to calling everyone "whiners" also when all they are doing is pointing out that your being a jackass. Seriously, do you understand how pathetic it makes you look going around attacking people in slow ships armed only with mining lasers? I think we all realize that you just can't hack it in a place where the real skilled pvp players in this game are. Thus the reason you result to picking on the new unskilled players and people that want nothing to do with it like you do. Its not something you can deny because its so blatantly obvious. I'm sure your gonna respond to this with another one of your idiotic posts. I actually welcome it because the more this thread gets bumped, the more stupid posts you make, the more CCP is gonna realize the crap that is going on and do something about it to change the game.
Despite half this post being a troll I'm gonna feed you anyway.
Get this - the whole game is about PvP
You mine - OK.
You may then manufacture - OK.
You sell the goods - OK.
I bet most of the goods you manufacture (if you do) is PvP equipment - because that's what sells, without that element of the game your market disappears.
Sure you may think that the PvP side should get nerfed, but in the process so does the point of chopping rocks.
I'm sure if I were a miner, and a war dec came along I wouldn't be sitting in a ship with nothing but mining lasers - unless I was so far away from the declaring corp I wouldn't be found.
Sure there's NPC's to fight, but if I wanted to do that I'd have opened the X2 box that's been sat near my PC for months, lot cheaper too.
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Azziza Meekstone
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Azziza Meekstone on 28/04/2004 12:42:01
Originally by: Bryon Krause
Azziza, lol is not a word or even two words. It is an acronym for three words. Get an education before you post please.
I got another two words for you ...
Doh !
edit : Please LOCK this thread you super duper mods.
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Talaq
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Talaq on 28/04/2004 12:43:16
Originally by: Bryon Krause
You fail to realize there are alot of people that want nothing to do with the way you want to play the game or be forced into such.
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this is a pvp game deal with it we all must, its not a hanging round your rock game singing kumbaya
in my old corp i fought MF and it was a lot of fun, try something else for a change
Evolve or dissolve
Q: If a tree fell in a forest, and it would hit a mime. would you care?
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Talaq
this is a pvp game deal with it we all must, its not a hanging round your rock game singing kumbaya
Excellent, I may use this quote sometime LOL!
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:55:00 -
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Yeah I agree this thread has run its course and seems that most of the posts are trolling.flames anyway.
Time for a *clicky*
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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