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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 19:08:00 -
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^^^Thats me.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 19:11:00 -
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Grimpak this isn't a fight its everyday.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 19:16:00 -
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Yes atleast once a day, thats not the point they work great in gangs as well. If I go to my drones overview in some the active systems and scan with my drones setting I get a two page report on EC-300.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 19:39:00 -
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I know part of the fun in this game is the fitting out your ship making counters what not. All I hear though everday is **** ecm drones. On the other forums its well known your ******** if you undock without them. Would be interesting to use T2 drones again.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 20:16:00 -
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If I fight a Thorax in a Ruppy I know by default if they fit medium ECM drones I will lose the fight. Jamming happens much more then once every 50 secs  . Even flying my Hurricane I know that if I find another BC he'll be jammed atleast a 1/3 of the time. Nobody likes to mention ecm drones because its a new Iwin for a small scale fights.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 20:44:00 -
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I really don't mind ECM boats its makes it so we have the "combined arms" style of pvp and not just one class of ships. This is also why I hate ecm drones because everyone uses them. I don't see combat drones unless is Heavy Drones or Drone boats.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 21:10:00 -
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If your on a alt your worthless either no experience or to scared(?) to post on a forum.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.20 23:37:00 -
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See that more along the lines I'm coming from. Everytime I get into a decent small scale fight its ECM drones flying everywhere. It alway ends with, that ECCM did crap, good thing you took out my drones first, I hate ECM drones. I'm just sick of ecm drones to tell yah the truth and want to stop using them but there addicting.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 00:48:00 -
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ECM ships are balanced to the effect your going to be down one DPS boat to have one in gang. So in effect you don't see them as much in little skirmishs. Currently I really like how ECM works. The only reason I brought this up is ECM drones seem like the new NOS. Its not overpowered its just the fact unless you have a droneboat or a Heavy Drone dronebay you'll use ECM drones. Your only dropping a few dps and gaining a 50/50 chance based jammer. I'm currently changing everyone of my setups to deal with ECM drones.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 01:15:00 -
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Those easy to kill drones are time, time you have to disengage target. Swapping webs around kiting the drones, trying to target drones after you've already lost lock. All the time you have a thorax trying to get in web range. My #1 and only worry when fighting a thorax is those ECM drones. Its easy to say just kill drones and all he has to do bring them in and out of his dronebay. I'm sorry if this confuses you guys I'm talking about smaller size engagements not running someone over with six buddies.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 01:43:00 -
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This is not suppose to be ECM nerf thread.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 02:58:00 -
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We did some testing last night and there was no noticable difference with the racial ECCM fitted against light ecm drones. Funny thing was mid fight I switched to a old drones overview setting and proceeded to wtf destroy my own drones . |
Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 09:05:00 -
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You got way to many random eft numbers so I have to disregard that. Like I said to begin this thread I use ECM drones. In fact every ship I have that has a drone bay uses them. I know how to deal with them as well. I'm pointing out that everyone atleast in my corner of low sec uses them. It would be nice to see abit of variety in people loadout lately. Also I try judge things from my seat not pvp videos.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 09:07:00 -
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Its was a ruppy vs ruppy fight and he loaded a eccm instead of web which didn't do hardly anything.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 09:33:00 -
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If you rattle of a page of numbers of course I'm going to disregard it. Nobody is going to spend a hour with EFT trying to debunk that.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 17:52:00 -
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Here is the whole point to why ECM drones suck. I remeber the half a year before NOS got nerf. I also can go back and watch the pvp videos . It wasn't that NOS was op'd it was just to good module not to fit to your extra high slots. Now take ECM drones and normal ships drone bays. The real dps those drones add are kinda crap so everyone loads ecm drones. Thats my point alt #1234 can comment now that I can't fly ships. E-Peen pirate #5432 can tell me to EFT up.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:19:00 -
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Like I said I'm trying to explain why I think ECM drones have become the new NOS. Flying a ECM boat is totally different because you either choose to fly a DPS ship or a ECM ship with zero other utility.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.21 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Corstaad on 21/04/2008 20:05:45
Sorry I'm not pulling stuff out of my arse. I'm actually playing the game not EFTing. You hate for me to mention this because your justified by EFT on why theres nothing wrong with them. Watch a small scale pvp video before the NoS nerf. You see almost every ship had little vampire trails coming off it. Now go to a active low sec system and do a scan for drones. Tell me what you find.
30% to 45% dmg isn't real damage do you understand that.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.22 00:35:00 -
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To be honest I just read thru this whole post and didn't like where it went. I'm retracting almost everything I've said in it. Why because I broke my #1 rule of there is no 1vs1 balance in a team game. I'll still hold to it that ecm drone fights are like two ******s with whiffle ball bats clubbing each other but that my opinion.
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