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Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:58:00 -
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Meh! Ushra'Khan... turncoats with no honor. I used to have respect your organization but it seems obvious now that you will ally with whoever suits you at a given moment. How is the new home Red Alliance secured for you? For your sake you better hope your new masters do not retreat to Geminate in our wake. For we will pursue them wherever they run and you may find yourselves in need of new lodgings soon. |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
57
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:39:00 -
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Thorvik wrote:
Nay.... This is far from the truth.
We once counted Against All Authorities as friends, brothers in Arms even. That day ended when the old leadership disappeared and your new leaders started charging us for helping you and thinking of us as pets. We are no one's pets, even RA.
Your participation levels had fallen drastically to the point where your numbers were no longer making a tangible contribution to our fleets.
Thorvik wrote:
I was there during the time where -A- allowed us to stay in F4R and help them patrol Catch and Providence. I was there when we were given (not renting) systems for our active part in supporting -A- operations. I was there when -A-, Ushra'Khan and friends took Providence.
Hence where my previous respect for you was derived...
Thorvik wrote:
I was also there when Against All Authorities retreated and left their friends to rot. I was there when -A- was charging for systems that they could neither support nor defend. You needed us, but you were more than willing to trade in your friendship for ISK.
Orders were given to Against ALL Authorities and all good allies to redeploy to and continue the fight from the Stain Region, living out of Sansha space was "rough" but there were plenty of good friends willing to follow us through the rough times. Ushra'Khan was not one of them, instead you made a back door deal with Red Alliance to hold on to the space we had granted you in Omist. Instead of aid in the defense of Omist you shot at its defenders, had you simply left the coalition it would have been a different story, instead you sold your loyalty to whomever seemed to be winning at the time. You lost anyway when the brunt of our counter-offensive hit that region, a poor strategic choice indeed.
Thorvik wrote:
You are not the warriors you once were, you are not the friends we fought with. Your organization has undergone upheaval and in it's place is now an empty shell of a lost glory.
You are young. The greatest battles happened as you were learning how to navigate and fire your weapons. Glorious battles in those days and we died honourably next to some of the greatest fighters that -A- had. They have left and what they left behind is starting to rot.
You speak of honour..... You don't even know what that means.
Its amazing how empty shells can come back and blast you out of the sky. For an empty shell of an alliance we are doing quite well wouldn't you say so? Would you ask your new allies why they flee from an empty shell of an alliance? Why they refuse to give battle without the aid of mercenaries? Why said mercenaries lost so many super capital hulls recently to our shell fleets?
Quite the contrary, the greatest battles are now and you and all those who have chosen to leave will be missing out on all the new glory. Keep nursing at the glories of days past, they will not be realized for Ushra'Khan again.
As for honor, my old organization left the Southern Coalition but instead of backstabbing friends they transferred all their holdings to .-A-. and left as friends. I left said organization to join .-A-. and continue fighting our hated enemies. Don't you tell me what honor is, I have a better understanding of it than you. |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
57
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Posted - 2012.03.01 20:13:00 -
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Kazzzi wrote:
After being reset without warning, repeatedly, by -A- after the fall of the Provi NIP, both U'K and -A- understood any future cooperation would merely be relationships of finance and convenience. I'm not quite sure why you keep forgetting that.
A reset is hardly the same as consorting with the enemy, note that 0 standing is not the same as -5.0 standing. Flipping on the dime based on mere convenience was not something I expected of Ushra'Khan. I held it as an organization in much higher regard than the mere serfs in "Citizen" alliances that populate the sector, perhaps that was a mistake on my part.
I flew alongside a few U'K pilots while I was a member of Dirt Nap Squad, they seemed like good people so to find them suddenly on the other side firing at me felt a bit like a betrayal. Dirt Nap reset with .-A-. mutually recently, but they didn't come right back and shoot at the southern coalition the next day. There was a proper and respectable way to exit and Dirt Nap took that route without burning any bridges, U'K all but welcomed our enemies into Omist and helped them secure it. The very same enemies we have been fighting for months, you switched sides at a crucial time when the alliance holding the area was disbanded. How is one to interpret this as anything other than dishonorable and malicious?
Kazzzi wrote:
Now do you really want to get me started on this whole topic? I know sekrits that your people do not want revealed. I fancy myself an honorable guy, so I'll keep them to myself until you crackers annoy me enough.
I merely felt that U'K was misrepresenting itself and wanted to point that out. If you have a problem with that then thats tough. I don't really care what you think you know to be honest. But U'K's "training camps" in Geminate certainly have a background thats worth mentioning here.
Kazzzi wrote:Now maybe we should get back on topic. The one where Jamyl fornicates with a household appliance.
I would like to see this  |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:44:00 -
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Ragnar STS wrote:Aye. We are off topic. You can blame this douchebag: Calfis wrote:Meh! Ushra'Khan... turncoats with no honor. I used to have respect your organization but it seems obvious now that you will ally with whoever suits you at a given moment. How is the new home Red Alliance secured for you? For your sake you better hope your new masters do not retreat to Geminate in our wake. For we will pursue them wherever they run and you may find yourselves in need of new lodgings soon. Seems AAA can't manage to honorably present themselves, or properly create their own topics with the [TROLL] tag. That said... I wonder if there is any kind of Terran research going on to recreate that super weapon. As concord is clearly not interested in using their technological advantage against the Sansha...maybe there are secret groups working on that magic bouncing blue ball of death.
See, if you all simply accepted my assessment of U'K we could have stayed on topic. So really the blame can be spread around |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
58
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:32:00 -
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Well, since you chose to give points I might as well address them.
Ugleb wrote:
So as our usefulness to you as allies waned, you came to see us as mere renters and attempted to charge us as such? Your own sense of loyalty was fleeting. I recall within a handful of months of our withdrawal from Providence your own alliance was on hand to endorse the ascension CVA's new executor as they began to return to Providence. We had fought them together but as we fell on a hard time you wasted none in switching your support to the side that best favoured your own ambitions.
This is because we severely overestimated U'K's capability to hold Providence as CVA had held it for years. .-A-. needed a relatively stable buffer in Providence and U'K failed to rally the necessary leadership to maintain stability among the new alliances in the region. Make no mistake we were not there to free Providence from the grip of the Amarr Empire, that was just a nicety. Providence was burned because CVA struck at .-A-. and needed to be duly put back in their place in the intergalactic pecking order. No one was surprised by this and the great battles you all speak of were nothing more than turkey shoots. CVA offered no real challenge after the fall of D-GTMI.
Ugleb wrote:
Yes, orders. There was little respect to be found in that rekindled relationship but a strong sense of empowerment on your part. We moved to Omist as guests of Imperial 0rder, and remained loyal to them until the day their alliance was disbanded from within. Omist fell in one night there was no attempt made to retake it for months afterwards. We were commanded to Stain by a distant and absentee voice that had shown little effort to wage its own war in some time. The war for us was already over with the bulk of our ships trapped inside now hostile stations and our pilots deep inside hostile space without support.
Our loyalty then was to Imperial 0rder, and they no longer existed. We made a new choice, and chose with the side that had not chosen to back Amarrian interests.
This is has always been how .-A-. has operated I'm unsure why this was a surprise to your leadership. Who do you think granted Omist to Imperial 0rder? The defense of Omist was the responsibility of I0 and its guests, it is not .-A-. policy to hold vast stretches of space which is why regions are given to over to alliances that are seen as capable. When I0 was disbanded through an act of treachery there were attempts by the old leadership to reform the remnants and fight on (see Checkmate.), they certainly did not expect their guests to turn on them.
As for your charge that we did not do anything about Omist, you are wrong and you were impatient. Had you have followed us to our rallying point in Stain you would have comfortable access to all of your assets today. As you well know, shortly after regrouping we launched a sweeping offensive against multiple regions with the help of the good allies that had stuck by us through the rough times. The reconquest of Omist (which your organization was now fighting against) was completed largely by our good friends in Nulli Secunda and Red.Overlord as we simultaneously cut across Tenerifis. A few months of patience would have done U'K some good, we had a plan and a timetable for completing it.
As for Imperial 0rder, check the alliance history of The Dark Tribe, contrary to what is believed here .-A-. does not just abandon good allies. |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
64
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Posted - 2012.03.05 15:30:00 -
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Ragnar STS wrote:Aye...
At least 3 times -A- has failed to do...well...anything to support their allies. We owe them nothing.
Perhaps it is they who suggested the Sansha attack the training base...attempting to wipe away evidence of their sins.
We handed you Providence on a silver platter, surely you did not expect us to also hold it for you. Throwing U'K and all those alliances in Providence was like a test to see if they would sink or swim. You failed the test, we are not in the business of propping up weak alliances.
Sure, anyone who disagrees with you must be sponsoring Sansha attacks against you. If .-A-. wanted to attack U'K we would do it ourselves and it would be a short and predictable campaign. |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
64
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Posted - 2012.03.08 19:40:00 -
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Ragnar STS wrote:They can see our new freedom fighter training camp in Geminate, and can do nothing about it.
For all your huffing and puffing, it would seem that your new camps are rather lightly guarded (https://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=649240).  |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
77
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:45:00 -
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Our roaming fleets have reached Geminate, your Red Alliance overlords have capitulated. Where will you set up your new "camps" now? It is not too late to be "petted" once again dear Ushra'Khan. |
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