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Craggus
Cell Corporation
Sexy Alliance
37
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Posted - 2012.02.29 15:54:00 -
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When you guys salvage and loot and you just get tons and tons of random loot.. do you just melt it ALL down or do you go through it and find the loot that will actually sell for a decent price on the market? If you DO go through it and check, is the only way to do it just to select view market details on each and every mod?
I've just gotten back to missioning a bit and am not sure which one I should do. |
Malamber
Lightning Squad
3
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:10:00 -
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I would love feedback on this too... I have been back a few months, and here's what I do:
- Keep all meta 4's - just in case I wanna use them at some point.
- Sell all Meta 1 through 3.
- Melt everything else.
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Lady Ayeipsia
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Cascade Imminent
47
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:17:00 -
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For the most part, I do the following:
Keep meta 4s (or the highest meta level an item has. For example, I think smartbombs only go to meta 2.)
Meta 3 turrets and launchers may be worth while, as may other selected modules, this you just learn from buying and selling.
Reprocess the rest.
I have an indy alt. He used the minerals and salvage to make items and rigs to sell for additional profit. |
Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
7
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:35:00 -
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This is really kind of anal and probably doesn't work for everybody....
But, I actually created a spreadsheet with refining yields and market values such that when I look at a particular module I can see how many of each mineral it will net and what that total value is vs the actual market value of the item. Yes this was a huge amount of work to set up, but... now that I have that resource, it takes almost no time at all to look at each item before I throw it into the pile to be reprocessed.
Having that has helped greatly. I have found that even items that can be sold for hundreds of thousands of ISK in the market don't always yield more that way than if I reprocess the item. Kind of weird to actually refine an item worth 500k but it does happen.
The more I work with this though, the more I find that I don't need it all the time. Some items recur quite frequently and after a while you just get a feel for which items will always be reprocessed and which will be sold. I also have found that I have a hard time selling an item for less than I know it's worth. I have purposely reprocessed items just to keep from selling them at the bid side of the market when there is a 100,000 isk spread between bid and ask. That's just a little bullheaded but I've not lost that much...
In a couple days time, I will find out how 'worth' it was to me to train up scrapmetal processing. (less time that it took to get 8.0 corp standings but a really freaking long time :)
Cheers,
Spy
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Kosetzu
Matari Munitions
The Fendahlian Collective
1
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:39:00 -
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Just like the others have pointed out, keep the meta 4 items, and in some cases the meta 3. Just do a quick market checkup on items you're uncertain of, if you're not a trader you won't really have to keep up to date on how profitable everything is down to the last isk.
Don't mindlessly sell to buy orders, check for the best location to sell it, and depending on the buy/sell prices you might want to put up a sell order instead. If you can make good profit while undercutting a lot without ripping yourself off it might be worth doing that for a quick sale. In a lot of cases the ones with existing sell orders will buy you out to make a tiny profit of you, but doing pricewars generally takes too much time to be profitable for a mission runner.
Depending on if you do any industry yourself, you might want to keep the reprocessed minerals, for cheap ammo or the likes. |
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:08:00 -
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best way is to know, not to guess -
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=40804#post40804 |
Malamber
Lightning Squad
3
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:35:00 -
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Great little program - but it only refreshes once per... how long is it? An hour? That part is beyond the control of the creator's, but pretty limiting =( |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
813
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:42:00 -
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Yeah, I was about to mention it too. I tend to use that for clearing out my hanger. In general I tend to keep the meta4 stuff to use and let that sort through the rest of it and decide which station can I put it in to sell or refine. Since I started out more on the industrial side, I have the skills to refine the loot and then use it to build extra ships/ammo, which is handy, lol. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1207
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Posted - 2012.02.29 22:20:00 -
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I save all Meta level 3 and 4 items, reprocess everything else. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
452
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:14:00 -
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Malamber wrote:Great little program - but it only refreshes once per... how long is it? An hour? That part is beyond the control of the creator's, but pretty limiting =(
Unless you sell up after every mission (why?) It should be fine when you do your end of day/week/month scrapstock checks.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State
25
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Posted - 2012.03.01 07:59:00 -
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I usualy collect the stuff untill I've a full industrial then make a trip to the closest hub and put the stuff on the market.
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McRoll
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
34
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Posted - 2012.03.01 08:11:00 -
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I am not familiar with invention and production chains, I just know that you need T1 stuff to upgrade it to T2, is that right? The meta lvl 1-4 is not used for this however, only the pure T1?
I always kept all large modules and known useful meta modules for selling and just reprocessed all stuff which was worth under 50k ISK. Guess I lost quite some ISK that way but I simply couldn't be bothered to check eveything. |
Ruffie Winter
Universal Jita
1
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Posted - 2012.03.01 10:11:00 -
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There are a lot of ways to try and work out what the best reprocess items are, best items to sell at buys orders and which items to sell to sell orders, but this takes time. You also need to know where to sell the items, as prices vary across different regions.
Your options really are to -learn to do this yourself which will take a lot of time, time away from running missions
-Create your own spreadsheet on what items to sell/reprocess etc, then work out where to sell them
-If the price is right i can offer my spreadsheet which tells you which items to reprocess (based on your skills) which items to sell at buy order/sell orders and where the best hub is to sell them, all of which takes no more than 5 minutes to do. It also tells you individual prices of your loot, and an overall price, and total volume m3, and your potential profit.
if you are getting loot in the vicinity of 500m per week this spreadsheet makes the job very easy to do. Contact me if anyone is interested in getting the spreadsheet. |
Oxylan
1 Caldaryjski Pluton Uderzeniowy
2
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Posted - 2012.03.01 10:40:00 -
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Half year or more, CPP modify all drop and drop rate, we got average less meta 1-3 loot but more meta 4 items, so all price of meta 4 drop down, you can notice some rare meta 4 item are very chaep than curple months ago like 10mn mwd , 1600mm rolled plates etc those items was 4-5mil isk worth on market curple monts ago now 1600mm rolled tungusted plate cost around 1.2mil isk, and top 10mn mwd is very cheap while it cost around 7mil isk curple months ago, or meta 4, 425mm rail gun was worth 12mil isk now like 3mil max im not sure but arount this price.
Well some meta lvl 4 are still worth to sell on martet, example, arbarest heavy missile launcher, meta 4 target painter, medium energy neutralizer, meta 4 dampener etc, but in fact you can even reproces 1600mm rolled plates, all meta 4 item generate more mineral than lower meta lvl, so while you reproces 1600mm roled you got 1.x mil isk worth in minerals and this value is compared to sell orders or even better. |
GreenSeed
21
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:35:00 -
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http://www.twistedvoid.com/evetycoon-3/
does the same as the other program but could be a lot more usefull if you are an industrialist. |
Bibosikus
Inside out.
The G0dfathers
41
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:59:00 -
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A quick tip for those who don't do it already:
Open your loot can/station container/whatever, and change the view to a list. Then r-click the column names and add the column for Meta level.
You can then quickly sort items by Meta and group move what you want to keep to another can.
The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
Katherine Starlight
Apex Tech
Xenogenesis Alliance
36
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Posted - 2012.03.01 13:01:00 -
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im crying, 500+ items, 100K M3+ items.
Sort?
wtb Sort by meta |
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
16
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Posted - 2012.03.01 13:10:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:A quick tip for those who don't do it already:
Open your loot can/station container/whatever, and change the view to a list. Then r-click the column names and add the column for Meta level.
You can then quickly sort items by Meta and group move what you want to keep to another can.
Have my babies.... er... wait. |
Katherine Starlight
Apex Tech
Xenogenesis Alliance
36
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Posted - 2012.03.01 13:19:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:A quick tip for those who don't do it already:
Open your loot can/station container/whatever, and change the view to a list. Then r-click the column names and add the column for Meta level.
You can then quickly sort items by Meta and group move what you want to keep to another can.
Thank you did not know that, will come to great use |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation
Beacon Light Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.03.01 14:42:00 -
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I reprocess it all without looking.
When you are missioning, one should mission. Spending time looking at crap is not productive.
Basically, follow these rules:
1) Don't waste time on crap
2) It's all crap |
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:02:00 -
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While I have never used any of them, there are people who buy mission loot, here's one for example
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870687#post870687
I'm not involved with any of these people, just happened to remember seeing the posts. There was also Universal Jita but apparently they have quit offering the service. I'm sure there are others out there who are doing the same and I've also see people in the Mission channel in-game offering to salvage and buy loot so you might give that a shot also.
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sloany
Ridgy Didge Holdings Pty Ltd
0
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Posted - 2012.03.02 11:56:00 -
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I think https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24859 is good, made me a pretty penny or two. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
123
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Posted - 2012.03.03 06:27:00 -
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I'm a hoarder. I don't reprocess or sell anything.
Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Ruffie Winter
Universal Jita
2
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Posted - 2012.03.03 17:46:00 -
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Klymer wrote:There was also Universal Jita but apparently they have quit offering the service.
We are still Running, come drop by sometime!
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Izziee
University of Izziee
49
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Posted - 2012.03.03 21:33:00 -
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Craggus wrote:When you guys salvage and loot and you just get tons and tons of random loot.. do you just melt it ALL down or do you go through it and find the loot that will actually sell for a decent price on the market? If you DO go through it and check, is the only way to do it just to select view market details on each and every mod?
I've just gotten back to missioning a bit and am not sure which one I should do.
People will likely tell you to sell Meta 3+4 and reprocess the rest..
This is complete crap tbh. There are so many terrible 3+4 items that's worth nothing, and actually quite a lot of 1+2 items that sell for a fortune.
Basically, just go through it all selling 1 at a time and learning what's what. After a while (especially if you mission in the same place) you'll get to know what's worth what and then you can just skim through it.
I've stopped looting now it's quicker and more ISK per hour to move rght onto the next mission, but one way you can do it is not sell ANYTHING and just dump it all in a container and stack it all up then one day, clear the lot out.
That way, you'll end up with like 70+ armour repairer 1's or whatever, and that would have saved you 70 seperate checks, and you'll find rather than 3000 seperate items, you're left with 300 stacks or something, at least until you've learnt whats what. |
Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.03.03 22:36:00 -
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Nuela wrote:I reprocess it all without looking.
When you are missioning, one should mission. Spending time looking at crap is not productive.
Basically, follow these rules:
1) Don't waste time on crap
2) It's all crap
my 7 mil for a named target painter disagrees with your hypothesis
Takes a while but certain stuff is worth looking out for, but the majority is just melted down, meta 4 is often used for invention so always a healthy market
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Fozzy Dorsai
State War Academy
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.03.03 22:42:00 -
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Izziee wrote:
Basically, just go through it all selling 1 at a time and learning what's what. After a while (especially if you mission in the same place) you'll get to know what's worth what and then you can just skim through it.
I've stopped looting now it's quicker and more ISK per hour to move rght onto the next mission, but one way you can do it is not sell ANYTHING and just dump it all in a container and stack it all up then one day, clear the lot out.
That way, you'll end up with like 70+ armour repairer 1's or whatever, and that would have saved you 70 seperate checks, and you'll find rather than 3000 seperate items, you're left with 300 stacks or something, at least until you've learnt whats what.
I do a version of this. I kind know the stuff that sells well in my area, so I look for that in my Noctis hold, and anything else goes into a storage area. Whenever I feel like doing something Eve'ish, but nothing regular, I'll go through the pile and reprocess the junk.
In this way I save some time, get some immediate benefit from the known items, and not accidentally throw something out that flies under the radar. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:41:00 -
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I assume you mean high sec LVL 4 missions. I used to loot everything, especially when the Noctis first came out. Now, I find that I burn through missions, (especially since I gotten good drone skills) so fast that it's more effeicient to just hand in the mission and begin the next one. I do however fit a salvager to my ship and search named wrecks and a few large wrecks to see if there is something worth grabbing, this is only because I build rigs on the side. However, if you are missioning in a Drake or have low dps, it's worth your while to salvage wrecks at least until you get a good fit or better SP. |
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
KONZERN
44
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Posted - 2012.03.04 22:20:00 -
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After a while you get used to what's worth a lot on the market and what is better off as minerals for the common items.
With regard to the meta level of items - some are insanely overpriced for what they do simply because of the meta level. There are one or two items that differ only in one tiny trivial detail of the specs yet will sell for five times more. Often the T2 variant is significantly better in many ways but also significantly cheaper.
This is the net result of people setting their prices based on the meta level rather than what the item actually does when you're using it.
My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying. |
Caroline Grace
Almost Approved
9
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Posted - 2012.03.05 03:53:00 -
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Craggus wrote:When you guys salvage and loot and you just get tons and tons of random loot.. do you just melt it ALL down or do you go through it and find the loot that will actually sell for a decent price on the market? If you DO go through it and check, is the only way to do it just to select view market details on each and every mod?
I've just gotten back to missioning a bit and am not sure which one I should do.
I'm doing happy L4s and looting and salvaging almost every mission! And I melt into minerals only ammo and batteries. I fly to Jita every time I have about 100+ looted items in my hangar and then sell it. I'm not searching for the price much, Jita has good prices  Alright, not always. When I see some red -85% stuff, I just view the market details and set more approriate price. And thats it  |
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