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Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:43:00 - [1] Edited by: Rev0lta on 22/04/2008 12:53:18 I got this solution from my friend that got it from another friend. I though i will share it with community as it is very important. Here it goes: 1. Pack everything into giant secured can 2. Put gsc on courier contract for an alt or friend 3. Pick up the contract and move your new shiny package to your destination completely safely! What will happen now? You have courier package with gsc inside with items inside gsc. Now when someone scans you down, he will only see gsc, nothing else. All you valuable items are invisible on scan.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:47:00 - [2] Uh, what?
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:50:00 - [3] Edited by: Rev0lta on 22/04/2008 12:50:19 When you put items on courier contract, they are packed up in another 'package'. When you are scanned scan reaches only 'one level' into your cargo hold means scanner will see gsc only. Nothing else. Check it by yourself. additionally scan will not reveal courier package.
Mogren CCCP INC	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:50:00 - [4] Why bother with the alt or friend? They can suicide them just as easily as you. The only possible deterrent is that GSC.
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:51:00 - [5] someone must pick up courier contract with package. Cmon people, think! :)
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:52:00 - [6] he means when u do it like this it shows as a package and only scans as a delivery package... but iv seen people gank ships for courier contracts 2, as old players hauling them does not make much sence as they dont pay alot for completing them, mainler for newer players to make isks
Achran Dexx Caldari CompleXion Industries	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:56:00 - [7] What about anything that doesn't fit in a GSC?
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:56:00 - [8] Nice trick Rev0lta if it works as you say. :D
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:56:00 - [9] frieghter can? I did not test it as i dont have freighter, but it will probably work in the same way.
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:57:00 - [10] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Nice trick Rev0lta if it works as you say. :D thank you :) ISK donations are welcome ;)

Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.22 12:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Xtreem he means when u do it like this it shows as a package and only scans as a delivery package... but iv seen people gank ships for courier contracts 2, as old players hauling them does not make much sence as they dont pay alot for completing them, mainler for newer players to make isks
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Xtreem he means when u do it like this it shows as a package and only scans as a delivery package... but iv seen people gank ships for courier contracts 2, as old players hauling them does not make much sence as they dont pay alot for completing them, mainler for newer players to make isks Yep, but still, use an alt. Hi sec gankers are cowards. They will not risk ships and money on something that does not have any chance of dropping anything valuable. If more people will start hiding their cargo, then hisec gankers will have hard time choosing target.
DrefsabZN	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:01:00 - [13] This may put some gankers off but if eventually the gankers are going to think hmmm hes carrying a GSC on its own..... hes got something to hide. If everyone carried them around it would be better because it will be harder for them to guess who's got something valuable but then it just comes down to them thinking well its worth the risk.
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:03:00 - [14] well this is not 100% sure way to stop gankers. This is just a way to avoid being scanned.
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:07:00 - [15] I know a much better way to avoid being suicide ganked.
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Ki An I know a much better way to avoid being suicide ganked. share this idea then :)
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Rev0lta share this idea then :) I'm not sure if the Eve community is ready for an idea so revolutionary as mine.
Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:14:00 - [18] Edited by: Rev0lta on 22/04/2008 13:14:29 we all know them. - warp to zero - use scout - use fast ship - dont move more stuff then you can afford to loose - move all valuable items in few runs - think ;) what else? Now you can add something new. - hide your valuable items
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:23:00 - [19] Edited by: Ki An on 22/04/2008 13:24:09 Originally by: Rev0lta Edited by: Rev0lta on 22/04/2008 13:14:29 we all know them. - warp to zero - use scout - use fast ship - dont move more stuff then you can afford to loose - move all valuable items in few runs - think ;) what else? Now you can add something new. - hide your valuable items Those are all enough even without the last one. The most important one, however, although implied, is missing in your post. I will give it to you in code. Dear Mother, Now that I have aquired a good job with a high salary, and freed myself of the shackles of your matronal oppression, I feel it apt to write to you to tell you that you will be spending your last years in a retirement home in the Utah badlands. I will not visit you in said facility, as old people smell, and you will die alone. My wife and I will celebrate your eventual passing on our newly acuired yacht, sipping drinks. I hope this letter finds you in good health, so that you may enjoy your solitude. Best regards, Your son.
Shintai Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Rev0lta Edited by: Rev0lta on 22/04/2008 12:53:18 I got this solution from my friend that got it from another friend. I though i will share it with community as it is very important. Here it goes: 1. Pack everything into giant secured can 2. Put gsc on courier contract for an alt or friend 3. Pick up the contract and move your new shiny package to your destination completely safely! What will happen now? You have courier package with gsc inside with items inside gsc. Now when someone scans you down, he will only see gsc, nothing else. All you valuable items are invisible on scan. That didnt stop people from highsec ganking before. Even seen empty haulers sometimes attacked.

Rev0lta	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Rev0lta well this is not 100% sure way to stop gankers. This is just a way to avoid being scanned.
AsfALT Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Ki An ... Dear Mother, Now that I have aquired a good job with a high salary, and freed myself of the shackles of your matronal oppression, I feel it apt to write to you to tell you that you will be spending your last years in a retirement home in the Utah badlands. I will not visit you in said facility, as old people smell, and you will die alone. My wife and I will celebrate your eventual passing on our newly acuired yacht, sipping drinks. I hope this letter finds you in good health, so that you may enjoy your solitude. Best regards, Your son. =)) the text is hilarious =))
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Ki An Those are all enough even without the last one. The most important one, however, although implied, is missing in your post. I will give it to you in code. Dear Mother, Now that I have aquired a good job with a high salary, and freed myself of the shackles of your matronal oppression, I feel it apt to write to you to tell you that you will be spending your last years in a retirement home in the Utah badlands. I will not visit you in said facility, as old people smell, and you will die alone. My wife and I will celebrate your eventual passing on our newly acuired yacht, sipping drinks. I hope this letter finds you in good health, so that you may enjoy your solitude. Best regards, Your son. Lulz
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Rev0lta Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Xtreem he means when u do it like this it shows as a package and only scans as a delivery package... but iv seen people gank ships for courier contracts 2, as old players hauling them does not make much sence as they dont pay alot for completing them, mainler for newer players to make isks Yep, but still, use an alt. Hi sec gankers are cowards. They will not risk ships and money on something that does not have any chance of dropping anything valuable. If more people will start hiding their cargo, then hisec gankers will have hard time choosing target. Well Tri is at war atm and there's at least 2 of us around Empire still doing it - and I do it with only haulers on overview so.... not a coward, just stupid XD this wont affect suicide ganking. The kind of person who is so lazy that they transport 300m of stuff in a Badger I and then AFK it through 20 jumps of empire, are too lazy to set up a contract and get it all sorted out. They are too lazy to do anything. Half the time they're too lazy to bother to fit a tank, even a passive one. They are just too damned lazy. And they make me money. Either that, or they're stupid. Stupid lazy people make Ralara happy.
the Entity Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.04.22 13:57:00 - [25] Those are all enough even without the last one. The most important one, however, although implied, is missing in your post. I will give it to you in code. Dear Mother, Now that I have aquired a good job with a high salary, and freed myself of the shackles of your matronal oppression, I feel it apt to write to you to tell you that you will be spending your last years in a retirement home in the Utah badlands. I will not visit you in said facility, as old people smell, and you will die alone. My wife and I will celebrate your eventual passing on our newly acuired yacht, sipping drinks. I hope this letter finds you in good health, so that you may enjoy your solitude. Best regards, Your son. THIS. If u cant read between the lines,then u cant read. dont feed the squirrels!
John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2008.04.22 14:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Ki An Edited by: Ki An on 22/04/2008 13:24:09 Originally by: Rev0lta Those are all enough even without the last one. The most important one, however, although implied, is missing in your post. I will give it to you in code. Dear Mother, Now that I have aquired a good job with a high salary, and freed myself of the shackles of your matronal oppression, I feel it apt to write to you to tell you that you will be spending your last years in a retirement home in the Utah badlands. I will not visit you in said facility, as old people smell, and you will die alone. My wife and I will celebrate your eventual passing on our newly acuired yacht, sipping drinks. I hope this letter finds you in good health, so that you may enjoy your solitude. Best regards, Your son. You are one heartless bastard. But the massage in between the lines is sound.
Kiran Jiyuu Caldari Sanctuary Aegis Consortium	Posted - 2008.04.22 14:23:00 - [27] damnit orar. stop hi-jacking the threads. ;) Good tip, Rev. Nice to know.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.22 15:38:00 - [28] Edited by: Malcanis on 22/04/2008 15:38:12 Originally by: Ki An Edited by: Ki An on 22/04/2008 13:24:09 Originally by: Rev0lta Edited by: Rev0lta on 22/04/2008 13:14:29 we all know them. - warp to zero - use scout - use fast ship - dont move more stuff then you can afford to loose - move all valuable items in few runs - think ;) what else? Now you can add something new. - hide your valuable items Those are all enough even without the last one. The most important one, however, although implied, is missing in your post. I will give it to you in code. Dear Mother, Now that I have aquired a good job with a high salary, and freed myself of the shackles of your matronal oppression, I feel it apt to write to you to tell you that you will be spending your last years in a retirement home in the Utah badlands. I will not visit you in said facility, as old people smell, and you will die alone. My wife and I will celebrate your eventual passing on our newly acuired yacht, sipping drinks. I hope this letter finds you in good health, so that you may enjoy your solitude. Best regards, Your son. /thread CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.22 16:58:00 - [29] Originally by: Rev0lta Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Xtreem he means when u do it like this it shows as a package and only scans as a delivery package... but iv seen people gank ships for courier contracts 2, as old players hauling them does not make much sence as they dont pay alot for completing them, mainler for newer players to make isks Yep, but still, use an alt. Hi sec gankers are cowards. They will not risk ships and money on something that does not have any chance of dropping anything valuable. If more people will start hiding their cargo, then hisec gankers will have hard time choosing target. lol @ :nerdrage: It's not cowardice it's business sense. And Barnum's law still holds. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.22 17:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Rev0lta share this idea then :) I'm not sure if the Eve community is ready for an idea so revolutionary as mine. Using your thinker? - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs



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