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Stonecrusher Mortlock University of Caille Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.02.29 16:40:00 - [1] - Quote I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 378	Posted - 2012.02.29 16:48:00 - [2] - Quote Have a cookie. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3328	Posted - 2012.02.29 16:49:00 - [3] - Quote you can not vote and that would be just as effective. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Stonecrusher Mortlock University of Caille Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.02.29 19:18:00 - [4] - Quote Nova Fox wrote: you can not vote and that would be just as effective. no that's a show of indifference. i have 5 accounts that's 5 votes, but have no one to vote FOR, the only thing after than is to use then against the guys you see as not worthy to be on the CSM, like the people that run for the CSM for no other reason than for the free trips and have to useful input but have such large voting blocks behind then they can get on just because they want to.
Zagam Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension 510	Posted - 2012.02.29 19:19:00 - [5] - Quote If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.
Stonecrusher Mortlock University of Caille Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.02.29 19:21:00 - [6] - Quote Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. indeed, this is also true.
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 35	Posted - 2012.02.29 19:45:00 - [7] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. indeed, this is also true. I never believed that. I can complain when ever I like...
Stonecrusher Mortlock University of Caille Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2012.02.29 19:50:00 - [8] - Quote Doc Severide wrote: Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. indeed, this is also true. I never believed that. I can complain when ever I like... yes but the moment the person your complaining to finds out you didn't vote they REALLY don't care.( not that they did when you started.)
Lexmana Imperial Stout 237	Posted - 2012.02.29 20:14:00 - [9] - Quote So you are lazy to find out what the running delegates stand for but still want your prejudice to have maximal impact on CSM?
Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 445	Posted - 2012.02.29 20:17:00 - [10] - Quote vote for xenuria then
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 50	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:20:00 - [11] - Quote Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. Lies I can gripe late just try to stop me
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 50	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:23:00 - [12] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy. It would be funny to see both Mittens & Darius III to have negitive totals if we could -1 vote. If we could unvote I bet a bunch of Hi Sec candidates would rule the CSM
Kiandoshia Amarrian Retribution 14	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:25:00 - [13] - Quote I never felt the need to vote =p What does the CSM even do? Serious question tbh... They make up changes and CCP implements them or they advise CCP or what? I voted twice because people spammed the vote for Mr XYZ in alliance chat and if you do not you are not cool but yeah... never actually cared =p
Darth Gustav Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 96	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:34:00 - [14] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy. Idiocy, you do have an unvote! Unsub. Herp-derp. There's your five unvotes. Pleas be sure to post a long tirade on the forums for juicy "Canz has stuffz?" posts and the norm on your way out. Or perhaps you intend to split your ticket as it were? Mix and match your votes a little bit? Maybe no? He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
SgtGoodEnd Aliastra Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:35:00 - [15] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. indeed, this is also true. Not quite... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
rodyas Tie Fighters Inc 457	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:35:00 - [16] - Quote I am not gonna vote this election, and I will still gripe this year. Prepare for it. disorientating
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 323	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:37:00 - [17] - Quote Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. This is a fatuous remark. If the tyranny of the power structure packs the slate with corrupts, voting just to be sanctioned to criticize later is endorsing the corruption. It's just the sort of thing "patriotic" Americans say...bearing in mind that patriotism is the final refuge of the scoundrel. There is no reason to vote for anyone you a.) Don't know from Adam. b.) Know for certain are uninterested in anything that has to do with you, or your "group" of players. However, given that, my right and even responsibility to calls 'em likes I sees 'em remains, regardless of your myopic and heavily indoctrinated comment. The charade of the CSM being touted by CCP as a source of playerbase interaction is a bigger problem than the physical difficulties involved in overcoming the isolation and size of the player population. Voting blocs take advantage of this, and whoop it up later as being some super majority, when in actuality the total of votes comprising a so-called "landslide" (which Mitt will no doubt claim once again, as he's the poster child for delusional behavior) is a pittance of a percentage. Apathy, and "this is BS" wins every election. They'll win this one too. CCP is indifferent to this, because all they want to do is make their paperthin claim to create a false impression on a public they think cares. The CSM is no different than botting. False claims abound. The beat goes on. You're right to not vote under these circumstances. I'm not voting either, for the same reason - there's no reason to. The outcome is fixed. The result will be the same regardless. And, even if we managed to get a CSM to represent us, CCP would ignore that CSM's suggestions, as they would have nothing to do with them...as they play the game themselves, but again, pretend not to...or that they're OBJECTIVE about it... How do you spell "farce"? Oh yes, t-o-u-r-n-a-m-e-n-t. Never forget. Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3092	Posted - 2012.02.29 21:51:00 - [18] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy. Counterpoint Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Spenser for Hire School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.02.29 22:04:00 - [19] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy. I Vote for the Un-Vote! O.o wait ... yeah .... I vote for the Unvote! All of the current candidates, especially the Mittani, represent whats wrong with MMO's.
Calfis The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 57	Posted - 2012.02.29 22:34:00 - [20] - Quote Spenser for Hire wrote: Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy. I Vote for the Un-Vote! O.o wait ... yeah .... I vote for the Unvote! All of the current candidates, especially the Mittani, represent whats wrong with MMO's. What gives you the right to cancel out someone else's choice?
Ai Shun 326	Posted - 2012.02.29 22:37:00 - [21] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: It would be funny to see both Mittens & Darius III to have negitive totals if we could -1 vote. If we could unvote I bet a bunch of Hi Sec candidates would rule the CSM Odd. You'd think they'd be able to get themselves elected if they had those kinds of numbers behind them.
engjin The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact 17	Posted - 2012.02.29 22:47:00 - [22] - Quote Anyone else vote for a vote for un-voting votes?
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1018	Posted - 2012.02.29 23:41:00 - [23] - Quote So I could come on and babble about the value of the CSM and why its important to vote then end with a "vote for me" thing but I won't. I think the CSM is important and should be supported, but that is how I see it. The general apathy towards the CSM might well indicate more in Eve aren't supportive than are. So I do think there should be some way for a player to actively say "CCP I don't want a CSM" or even possibly a "I could put up with a CSM but not this person". Those both valid positions. So while I can't say I know what the best way would be to provide that ant-CSM sentiment to CCP I understand why some pilots in Eve would like the option. Issler
Jita Alt666 939	Posted - 2012.02.29 23:50:00 - [24] - Quote Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote: I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around. So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy. Summary: I don't want to support something constructive to help the game. I want to just throw stones at players I don't like.
Riggs Droput Born-2-Kill 0ccupational Hazzard 27	Posted - 2012.02.29 23:56:00 - [25] - Quote A negative vote plays into the hands of the large voting blocs more then not voting. They would be better off having a None of the above option when voting. This would show that you wanted to vote yet none of the candidates truly represented you. I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees
Ai Shun 327	Posted - 2012.02.29 23:57:00 - [26] - Quote Jita Alt666 wrote: Summary: I don't want to support something constructive to help the game. I want to just throw stones at players I don't like. He does have a marginal point though. I always believe any voting system needs a "None of the above" option. If not enough votes are accumulated for a candidate but there is a clear indication of no-confidence through the extra option the process needs to start again with a better focus on the voters.
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 186	Posted - 2012.03.01 00:22:00 - [27] - Quote Mintrolio is the hero New Eden deserves. Vote Mintrolio. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1353	Posted - 2012.03.01 00:30:00 - [28] - Quote Zagam wrote: If you don't vote, you can't gripe later. George Carlin quote : I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 68	Posted - 2012.03.01 02:09:00 - [29] - Quote Since you see no reason to participate in the CSM vote, your opinion concerning it is irrelevant.
Paintchk Legio Invicta Many Reckless Corps 7	Posted - 2012.03.01 02:14:00 - [30] - Quote So I don't have your vote..?

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