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OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.26 11:06:00 - [1] no, not in the begening they realy dont do much.. later on with the highend skills they will.. even if you never train thouse skills thouse who do will only save a month a year maby in skill time & thats with them all maxed out.. i dont see it as a big deal like others. wast your noob skill time on ship grid/elc skills ship command too 5 frig to 5 weopons skills too 4. get your ass in a intersept asap as a noob. you can do all this in 3 months mabe less. i am pritty shoure i can do this in 2 months and be in a steath frig.
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.26 11:10:00 - [2] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Can newbies afford advanced learning skills in their first month these days? Luxury! hell yea, a pirate paid for my skills after he ganked me.. dude had class.. other players will help you join a corp i guess..
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 26/04/2008 12:48:47 2.2m SP in learning FTW If your on a trial and you are going to just 'try' the game - and you have no intention to subscribe right away - it would probably be best to just not worry about training, and train ship/equipment skills so you can give those different things a test drive throughout the duration of your trial period. If you end up liking the game and decide to play for real anyways - you can worry about training learning then. When I started this character I trained all my basic and advanced learning skills to level III, then I did my ship skill training for about a month. I switched back to learning,a nd pushed all my basic skills to level IV, then I took another 2 months to train other things. I trained some of my basics to V, and some of my advances to IV - then I switched. I only just perfected my learning skills to the point I wanted them to be at only last month. I have all my basics skills at level V, and all my advanced skills at level IV. The only thing I really have left to worry about in terms of attributes is training Cybernetics V so I can plugin my +5 set, it will be another 10 days before that. I have a ton of planning ahead of me right now. When your new, you may be like: "jee, I have so much crap to train." Believe me - as you play longer, the list of skills you have to train will always stay about the same length, they just get longer and longer to train. At present I am in the middle of a 200-day training plan - and I have another secondary prioity 100 day training plan after that. Often times I wish that I did strictly all my learning first after I finished battleship skills. I would have a extra 1-2 million SP I bet if I did. what are you gona do with +5 implants on. you cant fight they cost too much too lose so i am guessing you are into the money part of the game and dont come out much. its the implants that these guys can cash in on too much when it comes too skilling up or they just give them too there accounts they dont play but sell.. bs i say.. thouse implants should never of been put into the game, +3 was enough. what are we gona get upto +10 ones and knowone willing too pvp. me head cost too much, talk about head hunting. can i shrenk your head too when i get it. 200mil head for sale.
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:17:00 - [4] ouch! now thats a rich dude! game on! i still say for guys like me who can afford no more then 2 accounts its better too play the game then sit it out scard too do anything becouse my losses would be too high. i guess some guys like me game hard and lose it all too guys like you who win it all. anyone who says eve is a fare game too all im gona gank..
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.27 08:29:00 - [5] anyone whos been around in eve for sometime knows despite what ccp is saying to do i say too speclize now is a joke. the way they nerf all the time you could wast tones of time on some types of skills just too find out when you finly get there you got nerfed. now you are extinct as for me i will take longer too catch up in some ships but when i do i have generalized my characters skills and am more resident too getting nerfed on and can easly lean one way or another too work around a nerf becouse i have alrounded my skills. all you need too do is look at history too see what happends too species/armes that speclize too much in one area. if one small thing changes they cannot adaped well and go extinct very fast.. its a true point of life and one you should notice. i do not trust ccp enough not too nerf me to death in this game as a speclize fighter. i watch my missiles goto **** and so on... so much for my speclize missiles as it looks too me like drones/turrets are what kicks ass these days. me did not work my turrets well and it was a big mistake.
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.27 10:02:00 - [6] Originally by: MEBHansen I vote for complete elimination of the cursed learning skills. They suck the fun right out of the game. Instead, just boost every chr. attributtes by 9 or 10, and delete the learning tree. Sure, peeps will whine and cry, but It'll help new players play the game, instead of quitting after trial period is over. OR Make them Usefull besides +1 attribute... For instance make Willpower give +% on say... ship sensor strength? Perception bonus to tracking? Charisma bonus to market deals and/or NPC standings? Memory bonus to ? etc. just a thought... well said!
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.04.27 10:09:00 - [7] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: OffBeaT what are you gona do with +5 implants on. you cant fight they cost too much too lose so i am guessing you are into the money part of the game and dont come out much. its the implants that these guys can cash in on too much when it comes too skilling up or they just give them too there accounts they dont play but sell.. bs i say.. thouse implants should never of been put into the game, +3 was enough. what are we gona get upto +10 ones and knowone willing too pvp. me head cost too much, talk about head hunting. can i shrenk your head too when i get it. 200mil head for sale. +5's cost too much to lose? What about snake/halo/slave etc sets that people use for pvp? Implants shouldn't be the deciding factor on whether or not you PVP, maybe for you they are... but I could give a damn if I have +1s or a head full of 3bil in implants. I normally run only +4 perc/willpower or int/mem depending on my skillplan and if I'm training support or combat skills. My learning skills are crap on this character, I think i have a total of 1.3mil SP in learning and I'm around 2-4mil SP behind characters who actually put some time into training their learning skills. Not much of a difference if you ask me, and I play to have fun so it doesn't really phase me when someone whips out the SP Epeen and waves it in my face. Everyones pod makes the same squish sounds when it goes... look man, some of us play this guys right and for the challange. i didnt buy this guy proble like you did and i dont have 6 accounts too make a fortune with. i have 2 accounts one noob & one 5yrs old with with some time off on skill training becouse somone set me up and said somone bot this guy so they shut down my account. this guy i worked from start in 03 and i dont remeber your name.

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