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Merz Bow	Posted - 2008.04.23 21:45:00 - [1] how does a freshly starting out pirate make any cash! 've been playing for 4 days now (<- not this toon though) and every attempt I did to make money failed! I sold my bio space for some advert which made me 10 mill, enough to buy skills to fly a rifter and some equip, tried can flipping, not much money too make, it's fun though, tried low sec ransoming, got killed many many times (lovely (battle)cruisers), is the best way to stay doing missions and wait till I have enough skills to operate and fly cruisers or I am I missing some valuable information here? please help me out on this one :-) I think I can lose another 4 rifters and then I'm broke!!! :-)
Elles D Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.04.23 21:52:00 - [2] When you can-flip, actually try stealing the ore and selling it on as opposed to just disccarding it - a decent income can be made from that as a noob. Other than that you could always try the lofty trick, but i guess you are a bit young for it anyway. Be inventive though, there are lots of ways to make ISK in eve; and not all of them neccesarily limited to in-game play. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Merz Bow	Posted - 2008.04.23 21:54:00 - [3] yeah, I sold the ore, wasnt that much (veldspar, + the hauling of it took a long time) I was thinking about selling GTC, but wtf, paying more cash to an online game then the fee goes against my principles... The "Rent my bio space for your ad campaign" worked well though :-)
Merz Bow	Posted - 2008.04.23 21:57:00 - [4] Edited by: Merz Bow on 23/04/2008 21:57:22 OT nice name btw :-) It took me 4 hours last saturday to step out of wonderland and face the fact that I was only in a squatted hangar raving to tekno instead of finding the colors that I tasted with my mouth in wonderland... only had 1/4 of a stamp..
z0de Gallente The Bastards	Posted - 2008.04.23 22:32:00 - [5] If you want to pirate I would say avoid mission running as you may end up where it sounds like your main is. Big expensive ship, head full of implants, faction mods etc etc to scared to leave highsec. Fly cheap and pick your targets carefully, it helps massivly to be in a small gang try and get some guys from the npc corp to go out with you or join a small pirating corp. As for sources of income ransoms and ship loot will be your big payouts, get good at doing that. If you really want to go an npc route do lowsec complexes and rat with a pvp fit, people will come to you for a fight. Of course there's other methods such as trading but thats not really pirating is it.
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.23 22:54:00 - [6] You can make a decent income to cover any number of t1 frig losses by just doing a little trading (re-selling), particularly if you can move around LowSec. Hell, take one of your Rifters down to some lowsec chain and re-sell it for a bit more than you paid. Fill the hold full of faction ammo of any kind and re-sell that too, when you get wherever. Or run a few missions, as fast as you can. Don't bother to loot wrecks unless your reallllly broke, it's all crap loot for 99% of the time. Someone send this guy a couple Rifters in the interim. I woul if I was at home.
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv	Posted - 2008.04.23 23:09:00 - [7] Run combat missions up to L3s and use up to a BC. I'd suggest running them in low sec so you get to learn a few things while your making isk. Always salvage your missions because every little bit counts. Also don't be scared of low sec belt yarring. If you only threaten pods and not kill them you can keep sec up/get isk.
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.23 23:27:00 - [8] Join a pirate/pvp corp ... at your level .. pirating solo is a dead end street ... Thanks, PB Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.23 23:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Merz Bow how does a freshly starting out pirate make any cash! 've been playing for 4 days now (<- not this toon though) and every attempt I did to make money failed! I sold my bio space for some advert which made me 10 mill, enough to buy skills to fly a rifter and some equip, tried can flipping, not much money too make, it's fun though, tried low sec ransoming, got killed many many times (lovely (battle)cruisers), is the best way to stay doing missions and wait till I have enough skills to operate and fly cruisers or I am I missing some valuable information here? please help me out on this one :-) I think I can lose another 4 rifters and then I'm broke!!! :-) Try robbing a corporation. It's not the most popular option around these parts, and you'll get called mean names by a bunch of carebear losers whose words really mean nothing... but a single decent corporate robbery can set you up for a lifetime of piracy. Imagine never having to worry about being able to afford a ship you want, and you get the idea.
The Jackhammer Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.24 00:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Try robbing a corporation .... Imagine never having to worry about being able to afford a ship you want, and you get the idea. That's soooo 2+ years ago ... and stop rubbing it in Thank-You, The Jackhammer Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Tzar'rim Reckless Corsairs	Posted - 2008.04.24 00:55:00 - [11] Edited by: Tzar''rim on 24/04/2008 00:58:09 Originally by: The PitBoss Join a pirate/pvp corp ... at your level .. pirating solo is a dead end street ... Is it? That's odd since I made a few bil in total with high sec piracy so far. 2 nights ago i made 75 mil in 20 minutes and any proper miner will drop between 2-12 mil on average. Not saying it's a whole lot of cash compared to 23/7 mission w***ing but that would be boring to do anyway.
Commander Thrawn the united	Posted - 2008.04.24 01:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Originally by: Merz Bow how does a freshly starting out pirate make any cash! 've been playing for 4 days now (<- not this toon though) and every attempt I did to make money failed! I sold my bio space for some advert which made me 10 mill, enough to buy skills to fly a rifter and some equip, tried can flipping, not much money too make, it's fun though, tried low sec ransoming, got killed many many times (lovely (battle)cruisers), is the best way to stay doing missions and wait till I have enough skills to operate and fly cruisers or I am I missing some valuable information here? please help me out on this one :-) I think I can lose another 4 rifters and then I'm broke!!! :-) Try robbing a corporation. It's not the most popular option around these parts, and you'll get called mean names by a bunch of carebear losers whose words really mean nothing... but a single decent corporate robbery can set you up for a lifetime of piracy. Imagine never having to worry about being able to afford a ship you want, and you get the idea. ahahaha, GHSC with the advice lol
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.24 01:08:00 - [13] Originally by: The Jackhammer That's soooo 2+ years ago ... and stop rubbing it in Rubbing what in? Corp theft is the most efficient way for a new player to get tons of money. Period.
Commander Thrawn the united	Posted - 2008.04.24 01:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Originally by: The Jackhammer That's soooo 2+ years ago ... and stop rubbing it in Rubbing what in? Corp theft is the most efficient way for a new player to get tons of money. Period. You have a point, but you do fail to mention that any good corp will probably find out about this and you'll never get access to it. Could always sell your char and buy a better skilled one tho.
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.04.24 01:28:00 - [15] Originally by: Merz Bow yeah, I sold the ore, wasnt that much (veldspar, + the hauling of it took a long time) I was thinking about selling GTC, but wtf, paying more cash to an online game then the fee goes against my principles... The "Rent my bio space for your ad campaign" worked well though :-) If you start in with selling gtc's, you'll never leanr to be self sufficient in this game and end up spending a ton of real money. A terrible way to play a game, in my opinion. Before the T2 market went all to hell you could make a killing working low sec belts and missions, of course ransoming rigged ships and pods will pay the bills. Nostalgia \| Deadspace2 \| Deadspace
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.24 01:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Commander Thrawn You have a point, but you do fail to mention that any good corp will probably find out about this and you'll never get access to it. Could always sell your char and buy a better skilled one tho. Nah, you give corporate security way too much credit. Most still don't know their ass from a BPO lock vote. Besides, chances are his first mark will be some small to midsized we-recruit-anything-that-moves type of corporation, one that's probably never been hit before, and has their guard down. He doesn't have to sell his account, either. The only place he'll be known as a thief, is in an oft-neglected thread on these forums, which are read by a miniscule fraction of the player base.
Spiderus Gallente Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.04.24 02:15:00 - [17] Edited by: Spiderus on 24/04/2008 02:16:37 You could give this a read Pirate Resources ____ Enforcer of of the NBSI policy
The Jackhammer Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.24 03:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Tzar'rim Edited by: Tzar''rim on 24/04/2008 00:58:09 Originally by: The PitBoss J ... at your level .. Is it? :: SNIP :: YES @ 4 days old .. read up Thank-You, The Jackhammer Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Spaceways	Posted - 2008.04.24 06:58:00 - [19] First, you want to pick your fights. No need to be brave and take on other PVPers, just go for the easy targets. Second, consider ninja salvage. I know it's not really piracy, but it feels mischievous and brings in a lot of ISK for a new player.
Dosgar Caldari Panic DHH	Posted - 2008.04.24 11:10:00 - [20] Edited by: Dosgar on 24/04/2008 11:10:44 Originally by: Joe Starbreaker First, you want to pick your fights. No need to be brave and take on other PVPers, just go for the easy targets. Second, consider ninja salvage. I know it's not really piracy, but it feels mischievous and brings in a lot of ISK for a new player. Word. You can probe out people in level 4's using a T1 astrometrics frigate (heron, imicus, etc)and some half decent probng skills, warp in and start to salvage the large wrecks. It takes practice but once you get the hang of it, you can make a little cash. And the mission runners can't do anything about it, unless they want an instagib from CONCORD (just don't steal from the cans/wrecks). ---
sliver 0xD exiles.	Posted - 2008.04.24 11:20:00 - [21] if you are 14 days old and you got bit more skills to fly maybe cruiser or so contact me in game iam up for a free lesson on how to yarr. --- Somebody needs a hug!
Inertial The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.24 13:25:00 - [22] Originally by: The Jackhammer Originally by: Tzar'rim Edited by: Tzar''rim on 24/04/2008 00:58:09 Originally by: The PitBoss J ... at your level .. Is it? :: SNIP :: YES @ 4 days old .. read up No its not! Altough a pirate corp will make it easier. we are recruiting!
Elles D Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.04.24 14:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Merz Bow Edited by: Merz Bow on 23/04/2008 21:57:22 OT nice name btw :-) It took me 4 hours last saturday to step out of wonderland and face the fact that I was only in a squatted hangar raving to tekno instead of finding the colors that I tasted with my mouth in wonderland... only had 1/4 of a stamp.. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Nama Saya Chickens with an Attitude No Law	Posted - 2008.04.24 15:08:00 - [24] there are plenty of frigs left in space. Might want to scan them out (good practise for scanning out mission runnings ). Another thing you can do is salvaging. Go to a cosmos complex, plenty of wrecks there. Sell the stuff and you make a quike isk to fit a new rifter. Try Deltole for example (bit busy though!). There are many other normal complexes that you can check out for wrecks. Good luck!
Alexis Umbra	Posted - 2008.04.24 15:31:00 - [25] Hmm yea one of the main reasons I haven't started running around in a frigate to try out piracy is that I don't know where to start (around 1 week old character). Where do people mine usually? Whats the best way to find a target? Wandering around targetless seems not too appealing to me, yet I know thats part of it as well.
Joey Squibs Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.04.24 15:38:00 - [26] I'm also in a similar position. I started EvE last month with a friend. We're both PvP minded and looking for fights. We've done some poking around in low-sec but have only had one encounter and it was with a battlecruiser that blew away our frigates with haste. Ah well, that's how it goes and we've been learning a lot. Still, there has to be a better way to get some action. We just love PvP and want fights. It doesn't matter if it's piracy or not. Perhaps throwing out a war dec or two would be better? Any advice will be appreciated.
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.04.24 15:49:00 - [27] Low sec pirates make money either flying missions or ratting, either as themselves, or as alts.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc. Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.24 19:56:00 - [28] Originally by: Merz Bow please help me out on this one :-) I think I can lose another 4 rifters and then I'm broke!!! :-) As someone mentioned, join a PvP/Pirate corp that accepts low skillpoint players. Actually, that's what our corp does. We also hand out free T1 frigs (limit 3 per day) to make it easier on the newer players. We've recently recruited a bunch of new players and they're catching on quickly. Well, some of them are. I still see a few dieing in Mara. Anyway, you won't be alone in your newness if you sign up. Just throwing it out as an option. Our HQ is in Sobseki. Our public channel is Darkness Inc. ---- I am Super Cool
z0de Gallente The Bastards	Posted - 2008.04.24 21:33:00 - [29] Edited by: z0de on 24/04/2008 21:33:11 Originally by: Faife Bad low sec pirates make money either flying missions or ratting, either as themselves, or as alts. fixed that for you.
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.04.24 23:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Faife Low sec pirates make money either flying missions or ratting, either as themselves, or as alts. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Nostalgia \| Deadspace2 \| Deadspace

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