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Gjs312 The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 03:24:00 - [31] Eh, sucks to see tri going in this direction, I really cared a lot about the alliance in the time I was in it, and even given some time to cool off after the events of the weekend I still have to say I am a bit dissapointed in Dark and the recent decisions. Root of all evil/power corrupts/etc I guess. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.24 04:19:00 - [32] So basically what you're saying is Tri isn't even a "paper" tiger anymore?
Dungar Loghoth Caldari The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 04:20:00 - [33] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 24/04/2008 04:21:45 Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Auraurious Edited by: Auraurious on 24/04/2008 00:44:14 Whilst were talking about Killboard losses. evil edna will smack anything that isnt a cookie cutter fourm set-up on the tri killboard.. however, she often miss reads the the logic in the madness. He does kno how to pvp and kno what hes doing.. however in my openion hes average. Funny thing is he's right 99% of the time... cookie cutter setups are cookie cutter because they work Of course, he smacks like crazy but thats just because he's edna (also because he's a ginger and a midget irl so he has to make up for it ingame) - I bet he'd smack less if people had actually taken basic advice on fittings though... He is however a terrible PVPer and I'll continue to reiterate this until I die; if you see him in local, don't worry, he'll probably explode on his own All this considered, I'll take any of his "cookie-cutter" set-ups over the embarrassing and terrible losses that have been plaguing the TRI killboard for the last several months. This is the problem with Triumvirate: someone fits 4-sensor-boosters/4-tacking-enhancers, T1 425s, and 3 targeting system subcontroller links on a megathron, for a low-sec gate camp, their gang loses to an un-coordinated group of anti-pirates, and Edna smacks the ** out of them (because one of the ship set-ups is **). Instead of QUAM kicking out someone who obviously doesn't belong in TRI (much like QUAM), there's serious talk about forcing SPA to kick Enda for "smacking the killboard". Grow thicker skin, take criticism, and don't fit a terrible fitting next time. Threatening to kick someone out of the alliance who obviosuly does know what they're doing because someone couldn't be bothered to change their ratting set-up is insane. But than again, when an alliance leader admits to being made "physically sick" over a troll directed at him on coad, you can't expect much better from the people within the alliance. ---
INZi coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.24 04:38:00 - [34] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 24/04/2008 04:21:45 Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Auraurious Edited by: Auraurious on 24/04/2008 00:44:14 Whilst were talking about Killboard losses. evil edna will smack anything that isnt a cookie cutter fourm set-up on the tri killboard.. however, she often miss reads the the logic in the madness. He does kno how to pvp and kno what hes doing.. however in my openion hes average. Funny thing is he's right 99% of the time... cookie cutter setups are cookie cutter because they work Of course, he smacks like crazy but thats just because he's edna (also because he's a ginger and a midget irl so he has to make up for it ingame) - I bet he'd smack less if people had actually taken basic advice on fittings though... He is however a terrible PVPer and I'll continue to reiterate this until I die; if you see him in local, don't worry, he'll probably explode on his own All this considered, I'll take any of his "cookie-cutter" set-ups over the embarrassing and terrible losses that have been plaguing the TRI killboard for the last several months. This is the problem with Triumvirate: someone fits 4-sensor-boosters/4-tacking-enhancers, T1 425s, and 3 targeting system subcontroller links on a megathron, for a low-sec gate camp, their gang loses to an un-coordinated group of anti-pirates, and Edna smacks the ** out of them (because one of the ship set-ups is ). Instead of QUAM kicking out someone who obviously doesn't belong in TRI (much like QUAM), there's serious talk about forcing SPA to kick Enda for "smacking the killboard". Grow thicker skin, take criticism, and don't fit a terrible fitting next time. Threatening to kick someone out of the alliance who obviosuly does know what they're doing because someone couldn't be bothered to change their ratting set-up is insane. But than again, when an alliance leader admits to being made "physically sick" over a troll directed at him on coad, you can't expect much better from the people within the alliance. :facepalm: bitter much? can you illumis stop throwing all this crap around you now? you are takeing, what looked as a good idea when angel started your corp, into a big pile of drama attention seeking queen. sure. you are **ed off, fine, whatever, now take it elsewhere. take all that steam and bring it in game. not on the forums. you could've expected that all these so called vets and hot pvpers to have better knowledge. but I guess i was wrong. this is not directed at you personally dungar, I have always had my view on you as a realy good pvper. but now you are wrecking that view and are turning yourself into a D- forum warrior. dont do that. cora didn't ask for this attention, we didn't want this thread to be created, yet your corp took us as part of your bitter crusade against trium wich we are not. _
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.24 04:56:00 - [35] Originally by: General Dynasty The funniest thing about all this is. Have any of you even checked my carebear corps killboard stats? It's funny that because we hold sov towers and mine moon minerals to make isk we are carebears all of a sudden. Dorm is third on the Tri killboard for all time and has been consistently third on the kb pretty much since we joined Tri 9 months ago. We enjoy the fruits of our moons and spend the isk improving our space. So why is it that o** screws up and the leader of our alliance kicks them, it becomes my fault? You forum smack is strong I say but still no one looks at the hard facts. o are forum ***s and station spinners venturing out to gank haulers and ratters once in a while and let everyone know that they are the best. I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now. People also have to remember: Tri owns 13 outposts and holds sovereignty in 57 systems (source: http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp). That kind of space ownership doesn't just happen, it takes effort. There was a time, not too long ago, when Deklin wasn't that well fortified, and when TRI only held minimal POS levels in most systems. When we learned through sources that we were in danger of being invaded, it came time to reinforce our space. This task fell to DORM, being the new members of the alliance - POS duty was considered biatch work. When we started putting POS's up in Dek, and fueling them, we were taking a HUGE loss in Isk. It was taking every bit of the corp tax just to buy the fuel. We started looking for moons to mine simply to help offset the crippling cost of the fuel. Even then, we'd occasionally hold a corp mining op or a corp ratting day in order to help pay for fuel. Fast forward. We now have an extensive POS network. The T2 market has exploded, owing to invention. All of a sudden, the moon mining we did wasn't just barely paying the bills, it was bringing in shedloads of money. The big question seems to be why are we hoarding this money? Everyone wants to know what we do with the money. Why aren't we helping the alliance? Why are we keeping the money? Why is GD fitting his Rokhs with Dread Gurristas guns? You want the truth? Here it is. -- TRI RADIO IS CURRENTLY BROKEN! tune in at: http://160.tri-radio.com/ website at: http://triradio.dragonsofredemption.org/ TUNE IN! (KARBOWAIK FIX ZE SERVER!)
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.24 04:57:00 - [36] Continued. The money we get from Moon mining goes almost entirely to the following functions. One, we pay to improve our space. DORM has singlehandedly put up two outposts in Dek; one is generally tri owned, one is DORM owned. We don't get much in the way of taxes from the DORM outpost (I'm not sure we get any, to be honest). It's simply so that we can have more build slots. We also put up deathstar POs's, jump bridges, cyno generators, cyno jammers, etc in strategicly relevant locations, to facilitate the quicker movement and better defense of Tri fleets and Tri-owned space. Two, we have swapped out a good number of our regular POS's out for faction POS's. This is to make it a dire prospect for anyone to try to take over Deklin (as well as to save on fuel). This is expensive, but a faction POS is a much harder nut to ***** in the event of an assault. Three, we build corp owned motherships, which see battle often. This silly little carebear corp can field a fleet of 80+ capitals and probably 10 motherships, and does regularly. We also build motherships for other alliance members at a deep discount (at cost; at least 2-3B cheaper than any sell order I've seen on eve-o forums), aiming to strengthen the alliance, not to get rich off of alliance members. Four: GD uses DG rails on his rokh cause he can't fit T2 larges, but wants to set an example by fitting "T2 or better", as is TRI's mantra for ship fits. Embezzled? Who knows, but I do know that he does go wandering around venal looking for faction spawns, plus he has like an army of research alts in empire, so I'd imagine the majority of it is legitimate. And who can begrudge a corp CEO? Show me a CEO of a 200+ person corp who has time to make the money that one of the grunts in his corp does. Wonder how much nync or molle or evil thug or, for that matter, angel goes ratting? This doesn't come without lots of effort and coordination. Even though it funds the supercapital project, fueling the POS's and managing the reactions is a major pain in the ass. There's also this perception that we're the only ones in the alliance who mine moon minerals - this isn't at all the case, it's just that the other corps aren't willing to put the effort into it that we do - and who could blame them? I'd rather watch grass grow. But, we buy almost all the moon products that Triumvirate-the-alliance produces, and we buy from other corps in tri, because we have the industrial backbone to make use of it. Until this latest drama, I had never heard of anyone complaining that they didn't get the joy of running a POS network. Since this has come to light, we've offered ("been throwing") pos duties to anyone else who wants them; but I still consider this whole DORM / POS thing to be a thinly veiled strawman argument for the recent drama. DORM may not have the ruthless killboard stats of other corps, but our stats are definatly in the "excellent" category (87%; 135 capital kills - the alliance average is 76%, sources: http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=5791 and http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=alliance_detail&). And on top of this killboard excellence, we still make the time to run the industrial backbone, develop the space, make a more deadly capital and supercapital fleet, and make sure that the people who eventually invade and take Deklin from TRI are going to have a huge undertaking ahead of them. Transparency goes a long way towards the truth. There's a lot of misinformation floating around. These are the facts. Believe what you want; it makes no difference to me. ~X -- TRI RADIO IS CURRENTLY BROKEN! tune in at: http://160.tri-radio.com/ website at: http://triradio.dragonsofredemption.org/ TUNE IN! (KARBOWAIK FIX ZE SERVER!)
Aya The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 05:05:00 - [37] Always have/will have mucho respect for Inzi. One of my fav people in Tri
Kery Syander The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 05:21:00 - [38] Kai, I started this thread because the last one was locked for being started by an unnamed alt**got. Also, you're sharing the limelight with SPA, who have more then pulled their share when it comes to killboards and general activity. Those whining about KB stats etc, and saying that d00m, dorm, etc get their fair share of kills, I'll admit you guys would pass as pretty good pvp corps on the 'outside world' but comparing all the TRI corps to each other, and I dare say that TRI lost some of it's better corps, especially in the leadership department. Anyone who is competent and watching the killboard knows what just happened and I'll leave it at that. Ship setup wise.... lol. A third or fourth of all TRI lossmails are now comedy setups, or at the very least highly suboptimal. General Dyanasty, etc enjoy the moon mins and being stinking rich... I will enjoy actually pvping in deklin for once. To each their own. Anywho best of luck, etc etc I'm drunk and gonna go pass out. Lata u**s. -----
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 05:22:00 - [39] Originally by: INZi Bitter emorage Post with a character that's actually yours, perhaps?
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.24 06:01:00 - [40] Any consideration about these leaving corps forming a new alliance?
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 06:04:00 - [41] Originally by: Vile rat Any consideration about these leaving corps forming a new alliance? Actually I was about to convo you about joining GoonSwarm, .
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.24 06:13:00 - [42] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Vile rat Any consideration about these leaving corps forming a new alliance? Actually I was about to convo you about joining GoonSwarm, . There's a small entry fee but I'm sure we can work something out :)
Destr0math The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 06:15:00 - [43] well i just wanted out of an alliance that thought it would be a good idea to lose a cerberus to a crow solo. ---- Today is CATURDAY
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:18:00 - [44] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: INZi Bitter emorage hi ~~aneu~~ kai
XxAngelxX Amarr The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:27:00 - [45] This has totally been done to death now. GL to both SPA and Cora, 2 of the finest corps I could have wished to watch and work with over the last year and a bit. Whoever has this pleasure in the next will be lucky indeed.
Destr0math The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:37:00 - [46] Kai, have the balls to post with your main, stop posting with inzi. People liked inzi very much; that isn't to say they don't like you, but you aren't him. You active tank your megathrons. Triumvirate. : You're full of awful pvpers. Many of you are still good, but you've got a ton of people in your alliance who don't have the faintest idea of how to pvp, and that frankly isn't the way it should be. I flamed your killboards, yes, but that's because so many people were terrible. It was the only way I knew to maybe reach out to people to get them to raise their standards. It didn't work, but that just exposed to me how much you are all so set in your ways. Instead of kicking/warning people for **ty setups you raged at me for flaming them. Welp. Congrats to O** and CORA for actually leaving. Good luck to the rest of TRI - I don't see you being a force to be reckoned with, but I'm sure I'll see you around in space...
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:37:00 - [47] Good luck to SPA and CORA, the two corps I held in the highest regard in TRI.
Knocturnal omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:45:00 - [48] Good luck to core and spa ... hope to hear great things about ya :P
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:55:00 - [49] gl SPA and Cora, Dungar come back to PL ♫ ♪ also kery syander once killed an abandoned reaper belonging to me up north and posted it on the tri killboard and i sent him a load of hate mail i haet kery syander
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Sons Of Amun	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:57:00 - [50] All this drama when the reason is obvious , its all dungar's fault
Shubs Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.24 08:09:00 - [51] Good luck Spa and Cora, Was fun Flying with you guys, <3 inzi, Liked your vid was awsome, Fly safe o7 Destro, Punishers and t1 cruisers ftw amirite? ----------------------------------------------------- Pack it up, Pack it in, come on let it begin! - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -
Arthin Mutin Red. Red Republic	Posted - 2008.04.24 08:30:00 - [52] Originally by: Kery Syander Kai, I started this thread because the last one was locked for being started by an unnamed alt**got. Also, you're sharing the limelight with SPA, who have more then pulled their share when it comes to killboards and general activity. Those whining about KB stats etc, and saying that d00m, dorm, etc get their fair share of kills, I'll admit you guys would pass as pretty good pvp corps on the 'outside world' but comparing all the TRI corps to each other, and I dare say that TRI lost some of it's better corps, especially in the leadership department. Anyone who is competent and watching the killboard knows what just happened and I'll leave it at that. Ship setup wise.... lol. A third or fourth of all TRI lossmails are now comedy setups, or at the very least highly suboptimal. General Dyanasty, etc enjoy the moon mins and being stinking rich... I will enjoy actually pvping in deklin for once. To each their own. Anywho best of luck, etc etc I'm drunk and gonna go pass out. Lata u**s. Thats not Kai forum fuing you. (Ex-Cora btw so don't be calling me an uninformed moron)
Stolen Lotus Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2008.04.24 08:32:00 - [53] Good luck Exanimo and YNC! \o/
Max Teranous The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.24 08:42:00 - [54] Edited by: Max Teranous on 24/04/2008 08:42:10 SPA & CORA are awesome, good luck guys. Except Maz, he sucks. Max
Jangizal Caldari COBRA INC Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.24 08:43:00 - [55] Best of luck to both in the future.
Jebidus Skari Amarr Comply Or Die Retribution.	Posted - 2008.04.24 09:27:00 - [56] Xiaodown - Agreed what you guys have done to fortify Deklein is nothing short of crazy! Seriously all alliances forget about even trying to take dek it will take you years literally even with noone to defend it lol. The Illuminati - Angel & Wargod really awesome pilots - when I was in the corp - but guys get your other members involved it was a bit too clicky...with like only 20% of the corp, rest just made up numbers. Good luck SPA and Cora...
Gutsani The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.04.24 09:29:00 - [57] ok guys, i'll be honest, before they implemented that auth on their killboard, i was prolly 50% of the evil edna smacking **** setups .. i think he picked it up himself then though ^_^ gogo edna fitwcs (their kb password back in the days) ***es! Sig Locked. Moderator abuse.
Gutsani The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.04.24 09:32:00 - [58] Edited by: Gutsani on 24/04/2008 09:32:56 Originally by: Xiaodown GD uses DG rails on his rokh cause he can't fit T2 larges, but wants to set an example by fitting "T2 or better", as is TRI's mantra for ship fits. someone should now quote me with the post he made on "T1 is good" on the tri forums. (topic was about t1 large railguns afaik) Sig Locked. Moderator abuse.
Anubis Xian Vertigo One	Posted - 2008.04.24 09:51:00 - [59] TRI's name wasn't accurate anyway. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
NOL Waiter Dining in NOL Enterprises.	Posted - 2008.04.24 10:10:00 - [60] So Triumvirate lose three of the arguably best PVP corporations in EVE, Illuminati Coracacao Ardente and Spartan Industries, to keep general dynasty and DORM? LMAO.

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