Originally by: Murtala

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Suggestion, no flame please

Why donÆt the ex-Tri corp form there own alliance, and see if do a better job. I am sure you thought about it.

Limit the number of corps and set strict rules and pwn everything

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Originally by: ZenTex

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Yes, having 2 more pure pvp corps leave just to keep a carebear corp just to run POSes?
That's just not what Tri's about IMHO.
It is what a territory holding alliance is about though, or so it seems. Never would have thought this happening to TRI.

'twas nice having had you as neigbours. Sad to see it ending like this, but the corps that lefthaven't forgotten about us I see.

I wish O****, Cora and SPA best of luck in their future endeavours.
Back to Venal I guess?

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Originally by: General Dynasty

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I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now.

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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I will, however, yield that you do have good people & pvpers in your corp; you need to sort the wheat from the chaff and start pruning the ******s - you don't need 240 people to run your POS network and PVP...

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Originally by: Auraurious

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Edited by: Auraurious on 24/04/2008 00:44:14
Whilst were talking about Killboard losses.

evil edna will smack anything that isnt a cookie cutter fourm set-up on the tri killboard..

however, she often miss reads the the logic in the madness.

He does kno how to pvp and kno what hes doing.. however in my openion hes average.

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: General Dynasty

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I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now.

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The killboard says you have way too much ISK and still don't know how to fit your ships properly (Polycarbed DG sniper rokhs I mean wtf)

DORM has 240 members currently, which is 2.4 odd times what SPA / O**** has, has been in the alliance 4 months longer than SPA was and has double the kills - O**** infact has almost the same amount of kills as DORM, is the same size as SPA and joined TRI a month later than you.

For a corp your size and the time you've been in the alliance, your stats are nothing to gloat about.

I will, however, yield that you do have good people & pvpers in your corp; you need to sort the wheat from the chaff and start pruning the ******s - you don't need 240 people to run your POS network and PVP...

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Originally by: HellsRazor

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Someone said Kemono..... yes, they did!!

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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I'd like to see TRI do well cos there's still a decent bunch of guys there. While I don't agree with darknesss' choices on some stuff (esp. keeping DORM over 3 100% pvp corps), he's always been a decent guy the few times I've talked to him and doesn't really deserve flaming. What's done is done, it's sad (albeit fun as hell) when drama like this happens but, at the moment I feel that both TRI and the corps that have left are better off because of it; if we'd kept going I bet the resulting dramabomb would've ended the alliance straight out.

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Originally by: matty01

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maz left early so he couldn't be blamed for breaking another alliance up

c/d

imo c

<3 maz

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Auraurious

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Edited by: Auraurious on 24/04/2008 00:44:14
Whilst were talking about Killboard losses.

evil edna will smack anything that isnt a cookie cutter fourm set-up on the tri killboard..

however, she often miss reads the the logic in the madness.

He does kno how to pvp and kno what hes doing.. however in my openion hes average.

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Funny thing is he's right 99% of the time... cookie cutter setups are cookie cutter because they work

Of course, he smacks like crazy but thats just because he's edna (also because he's a ginger and a midget irl so he has to make up for it ingame) - I bet he'd smack less if people had actually taken basic advice on fittings though...

He is however a terrible PVPer and I'll continue to reiterate this until I die; if you see him in local, don't worry, he'll probably explode on his own

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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 24/04/2008 04:21:45

Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Auraurious

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Edited by: Auraurious on 24/04/2008 00:44:14
Whilst were talking about Killboard losses.

evil edna will smack anything that isnt a cookie cutter fourm set-up on the tri killboard..

however, she often miss reads the the logic in the madness.

He does kno how to pvp and kno what hes doing.. however in my openion hes average.

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Funny thing is he's right 99% of the time... cookie cutter setups are cookie cutter because they work

Of course, he smacks like crazy but thats just because he's edna (also because he's a ginger and a midget irl so he has to make up for it ingame) - I bet he'd smack less if people had actually taken basic advice on fittings though...

He is however a terrible PVPer and I'll continue to reiterate this until I die; if you see him in local, don't worry, he'll probably explode on his own

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All this considered, I'll take any of his "cookie-cutter" set-ups over the embarrassing and terrible losses that have been plaguing the TRI killboard for the last several months.

This is the problem with Triumvirate: someone fits 4-sensor-boosters/4-tacking-enhancers, T1 425s, and 3 targeting system subcontroller links on a megathron, for a low-sec gate camp, their gang loses to an un-coordinated group of anti-pirates, and Edna smacks the **** out of them (because one of the ship set-ups is ****). Instead of QUAM kicking out someone who obviously doesn't belong in TRI (much like QUAM), there's serious talk about forcing SPA to kick Enda for "smacking the killboard".

Grow thicker skin, take criticism, and don't fit a terrible fitting next time. Threatening to kick someone out of the alliance who obviosuly does know what they're doing because someone couldn't be bothered to change their ratting set-up is insane.

But than again, when an alliance leader admits to being made "physically sick" over a troll directed at him on coad, you can't expect much better from the people within the alliance.

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Originally by: General Dynasty

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The funniest thing about all this is. Have any of you even checked my carebear corps killboard stats? It's funny that because we hold sov towers and mine moon minerals to make isk we are carebears all of a sudden. Dorm is third on the Tri killboard for all time and has been consistently third on the kb pretty much since we joined Tri 9 months ago. We enjoy the fruits of our moons and spend the isk improving our space. So why is it that o**** screws up and the leader of our alliance kicks them, it becomes my fault? You forum smack is strong I say but still no one looks at the hard facts. o**** are forum *****s and station spinners venturing out to gank haulers and ratters once in a while and let everyone know that they are the best. I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now.

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Originally by: INZi

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Bitter emorage

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Any consideration about these leaving corps forming a new alliance?

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Originally by: Viper ****zIe

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Any consideration about these leaving corps forming a new alliance?

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Actually I was about to convo you about joining GoonSwarm, .

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Originally by: Viper ****zIe

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Originally by: INZi

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Bitter emorage

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hi aneu kai

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Originally by: Kery Syander

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Kai, I started this thread because the last one was locked for being started by an unnamed alt****got. Also, you're sharing the limelight with SPA, who have more then pulled their share when it comes to killboards and general activity.

Those whining about KB stats etc, and saying that d00m, dorm, etc get their fair share of kills, I'll admit you guys would pass as pretty good pvp corps on the 'outside world' but comparing all the TRI corps to each other, and I dare say that TRI lost some of it's better corps, especially in the leadership department. Anyone who is competent and watching the killboard knows what just happened and I'll leave it at that.

Ship setup wise.... lol. A third or fourth of all TRI lossmails are now comedy setups, or at the very least highly suboptimal. General Dyanasty, etc enjoy the moon mins and being stinking rich... I will enjoy actually pvping in deklin for once. To each their own.

Anywho best of luck, etc etc I'm drunk and gonna go pass out. Lata u****s.

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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GD uses DG rails on his rokh cause he can't fit T2 larges, but wants to set an example by fitting "T2 or better", as is TRI's mantra for ship fits.

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.

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Originally by: INZi

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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 24/04/2008 04:21:45

Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Auraurious

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Edited by: Auraurious on 24/04/2008 00:44:14
Whilst were talking about Killboard losses.

evil edna will smack anything that isnt a cookie cutter fourm set-up on the tri killboard..

however, she often miss reads the the logic in the madness.

He does kno how to pvp and kno what hes doing.. however in my openion hes average.

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Funny thing is he's right 99% of the time... cookie cutter setups are cookie cutter because they work

Of course, he smacks like crazy but thats just because he's edna (also because he's a ginger and a midget irl so he has to make up for it ingame) - I bet he'd smack less if people had actually taken basic advice on fittings though...

He is however a terrible PVPer and I'll continue to reiterate this until I die; if you see him in local, don't worry, he'll probably explode on his own

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All this considered, I'll take any of his "cookie-cutter" set-ups over the embarrassing and terrible losses that have been plaguing the TRI killboard for the last several months.

This is the problem with Triumvirate: someone fits 4-sensor-boosters/4-tacking-enhancers, T1 425s, and 3 targeting system subcontroller links on a megathron, for a low-sec gate camp, their gang loses to an un-coordinated group of anti-pirates, and Edna smacks the **** out of them (because one of the ship set-ups is ****). Instead of QUAM kicking out someone who obviously doesn't belong in TRI (much like QUAM), there's serious talk about forcing SPA to kick Enda for "smacking the killboard".

Grow thicker skin, take criticism, and don't fit a terrible fitting next time. Threatening to kick someone out of the alliance who obviosuly does know what they're doing because someone couldn't be bothered to change their ratting set-up is insane.

But than again, when an alliance leader admits to being made "physically sick" over a troll directed at him on coad, you can't expect much better from the people within the alliance.

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:facepalm: bitter much?

can you illumis stop throwing all this crap around you now? you are takeing, what looked as a good idea when angel started your corp, into a big pile of drama attention seeking queen. sure. you are ****ed off, fine, whatever, now take it elsewhere. take all that steam and bring it in game. not on the forums.

you could've expected that all these so called vets and hot pvpers to have better knowledge. but I guess i was wrong.

this is not directed at you personally dungar, I have always had my view on you as a realy good pvper. but now you are wrecking that view and are turning yourself into a D- forum warrior. dont do that.

cora didn't ask for this attention, we didn't want this thread to be created, yet your corp took us as part of your bitter crusade against trium wich we are not.

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Three, we build corp owned motherships, which see battle often. This silly little carebear corp can field a fleet of 80+ capitals and probably 10 motherships, and does regularly. We also build motherships for other alliance members at a deep discount (at cost; at least 2-3B cheaper than any sell order I've seen on eve-o forums), aiming to strengthen the alliance, not to get rich off of alliance members.

Four: GD uses DG rails on his rokh cause he can't fit T2 larges, but wants to set an example by fitting "T2 or better", as is TRI's mantra for ship fits. Embezzled? Who knows, but I do know that he does go wandering around venal looking for faction spawns, plus he has like an army of research alts in empire, so I'd imagine the majority of it is legitimate. And who can begrudge a corp CEO? Show me a CEO of a 200+ person corp who has time to make the money that one of the grunts in his corp does. Wonder how much nync or molle or evil thug or, for that matter, angel goes ratting?

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Originally by: Plave Okice

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I left Tri before SPA joined but remember Cora folks with fondness, best of luck to you, salut o7

Also the "merger" corps, good luck to you guys, hope it goes well.

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Originally by: Eternal Hatred

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Didn't Plave make Red and Blue??

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Originally by: Eternal Hatred

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So they are now over? Damn.

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Originally by: INZi

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:facepalm: bitter much?

can you illumis stop throwing all this crap around you now? you are takeing, what looked as a good idea when angel started your corp, into a big pile of drama attention seeking queen. sure. you are ****ed off, fine, whatever, now take it elsewhere. take all that steam and bring it in game. not on the forums.

you could've expected that all these so called vets and hot pvpers to have better knowledge. but I guess i was wrong.

this is not directed at you personally dungar, I have always had my view on you as a realy good pvper. but now you are wrecking that view and are turning yourself into a D- forum warrior. dont do that.

cora didn't ask for this attention, we didn't want this thread to be created, yet your corp took us as part of your bitter crusade against trium wich we are not.

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: General Dynasty

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I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now.

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The killboard says you have way too much ISK and still don't know how to fit your ships properly (Polycarbed DG sniper rokhs I mean wtf)

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Originally by: Plave Okice

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Originally by: Eternal Hatred

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Didn't Plave make Red and Blue??

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Yes

Originally by: Eternal Hatred

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So they are now over? Damn.

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No

But this isn't the place to talk about it, RvB has no place in CAOD

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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long post

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: General Dynasty

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I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now.

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The killboard says you have way too much ISK and still don't know how to fit your ships properly (Polycarbed DG sniper rokhs I mean wtf)

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You do realize isk wise all the corps are fairly similar in isk killed vs isk lost. The Illuminati had one of the worst ratios:
Kills:12483
Losses:1411
Damage done (ISK):529680.28M
Damage received (ISK):92631.18M
Efficiency:85.11%

Probably angel losing so many faction fit ships.

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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long post

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Much as I am enjoying lolling at the Tri internal dramas I just wanted to say that was a very good and informative post.

It's all too easy for people who just want to roam around ganking to slate the effort that people put into the industrial side as if ganking ratters was somehow work or hard and running an industrial side of a corp was really simple and required no effort.
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Originally by: Plave Okice

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Also the "merger" corps, good luck to you guys, hope it goes well.

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Four: GD uses DG rails on his rokh cause he can't fit T2 larges, but wants to set an example by fitting "T2 or better", as is TRI's mantra for ship fits.

~X

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: General Dynasty

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I'll just let the killboard do my talking after this just as it talks now.

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The killboard says you have way too much ISK and still don't know how to fit your ships properly (Polycarbed DG sniper rokhs I mean wtf)

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You do realize isk wise all the corps are fairly similar in isk killed vs isk lost. The Illuminati had one of the worst ratios:
Kills:12483
Losses:1411
Damage done (ISK):529680.28M
Damage received (ISK):92631.18M
Efficiency:85.11%

Probably angel losing so many faction fit ships.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Originally by: Plave Okice

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Also the "merger" corps, good luck to you guys, hope it goes well.

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Actualy its 2 TRI corps merging together dont know if jenessa said that.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Actually that would be the nyx of ours you killed that's skewing our stats so badly, we left on a 90% ratio.

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Originally by: Bobby Atlas

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The fittings on ships do not count towards the isk killed/lost ratios, unless TRI board had customized that into things.

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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Edited by: Zaethiel on 24/04/2008 12:49:15
Edited by: Zaethiel on 24/04/2008 12:43:59

Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Actually that would be the nyx of ours you killed that's skewing our stats so badly, we left on a 90% ratio.

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Forgot about that. 19 bill isk damage. Corrected that puts you at 73 Bill isk lost which gives you similar stats to DORM.

DORM
Damage done (ISK):500759.54M
Damage received (ISK):74926.1M

Illuminati
Damage done (ISK): 529680.28M
Damage received (ISK): 73631.18M

Originally by: Bobby Atlas

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The fittings on ships do not count towards the isk killed/lost ratios, unless TRI board had customized that into things.

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It does count Faction mods at fairly accurate prices.

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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words

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Originally by: Bobby Atlas

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If the tri board counts ship fittings into isk dmg done/received then it is in contrast to other boards as a basis of comparison, a sham and merits little to no significance anymore.

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Originally by: Evil Edna

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Four: GD uses DG rails on his rokh cause he can't fit T2 larges, but wants to set an example by fitting "T2 or better", as is TRI's mantra for ship fits.

~X

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i like how you ignored the real issue with that rohk, in that it was a sniper rokh with polycarbons on and was lost jumping into r3 unscouted iirc

that shows nothing but lack of basic understanding

you can crow about pos and building outposts all you like, but a pvp alliance doesnt need any of that nonsence really, thats all secondary to solid pvp corps, which you arnt

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Originally by: Talon SilverHawk

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ahh maybe thats why Spartan had been suicide ganking mission runners in Aramichi hhmmmm

Looking for something new to do.

Tal

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Originally by: Kalissa

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It was my alt character that actually created the Triumvirate alliance so you could say I've been here from the absolute beginning. When Tri began on a really really good night on a prepared op we could field maybe 30 people, we owned no space had no politics everyone was a target we despised the northern nap situation as it actively worked against PvP. (still does)

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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Originally by: Bobby Atlas

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If the tri board counts ship fittings into isk dmg done/received then it is in contrast to other boards as a basis of comparison, a sham and merits little to no significance anymore.

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Why is it a "shame" or sham? It adds significance to the fact that someone said DORM has too much money and loses alot of expensive ships. (the only way to have arelatively expensive ship in tri is for it to be faction fit since the majority of the alliance flys tech II ships.)

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Originally by: Kalissa

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When an authorized op has been called, Dorm has always dropped what it was doing and been there, and in numbers too.

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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DORM
Damage done (ISK):500759.54M
Damage received (ISK):74926.1M

Illuminati
Damage done (ISK): 529680.28M
Damage received (ISK): 73631.18M

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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And when Angel loses a ship, at least it's properly fit

Max

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Originally by: Idaeus

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Originally by: Kalissa

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It was my alt character that actually created the Triumvirate alliance so you could say I've been here from the absolute beginning. When Tri began on a really really good night on a prepared op we could field maybe 30 people, we owned no space had no politics everyone was a target we despised the northern nap situation as it actively worked against PvP. (still does)

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I loved you guys then. It always seemed so easy for LordVodka to **** you guys off (especially EXAN). It got quiet and lonely after TRI picked up and went to Venal.

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Originally by: Kalissa

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It just bummed me out that people were saying what Tri was about in the early days who weren't even in it then and played no part in us gaining the territory we have.

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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Except for when GD boycots the op and threatens to boot his own members if they do attend, like last weekend.

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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DORM
Damage done (ISK):500759.54M
Damage received (ISK):74926.1M

Illuminati
Damage done (ISK): 529680.28M
Damage received (ISK): 73631.18M

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I'd stop now if I was you. osh1t was 2 to 3 times smaller than dorm, and dorm was in the alliance longer. And when Angel loses a ship, at least it's properly fit

Max

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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Except for when GD boycots the op and threatens to boot his own members if they do attend, like last weekend.

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It was not an alliance authorized op, and you were told this numerous times by Darknesss and the other CEO's. Not only was OSHT not given approval for it, they were specifically told that it was NOT approved after they asked about it.

Originally by: Max Teranous

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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DORM
Damage done (ISK):500759.54M
Damage received (ISK):74926.1M

Illuminati
Damage done (ISK): 529680.28M
Damage received (ISK): 73631.18M

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I'd stop now if I was you. osh1t was 2 to 3 times smaller than dorm, and dorm was in the alliance longer. And when Angel loses a ship, at least it's properly fit

Max

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And during the same time, how many sovereignty-holding POS's did you put up? How many outposts did you build? How many jump bridge networks did you design, set up, and supply the fuel for?

You say these things aren't important, but that just shows that your goals were not in line with the alliance's goals. Plus, you say POS's aren't important, but I bet you sure did use the jump bridges. You say there's no need to hold space, but yet, we've spent 10 months building one of the largest capital fleets in new eden - what are we going to do with these 200 dreads if TRI goes back to ganking ratting ravens? You say that Motherships are a bad idea and a stupid waste of money, and yet, you bring up the OSHT mom that was killed after you started shooting friendlies every opportunity you get. Not to mention that it wasn't even DORM that was involved in that kill! Your corp's posts are a series of contradictions, and people are starting to get over the shock of the drama and realize that.

The real story with your post is that OSHT people have been berating DORM members in a strawman argument for days now, when the raw stats show that DORM killed as much as OSHT, and yet still found time to be the entire industrial backbone of one of the largest and most prolific alliances in the game.

~X

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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And during the same time, how many sovereignty-holding POS's did you put up? How many outposts did you build? How many jump bridge networks did you design, set up, and supply the fuel for?

You say these things aren't important, but that just shows that your goals were not in line with the alliance's goals. Plus, you say POS's aren't important, but I bet you sure did use the jump bridges. You say there's no need to hold space, but yet, we've spent 10 months building one of the largest capital fleets in new eden - what are we going to do with these 200 dreads if TRI goes back to ganking ratting ravens? You say that Motherships are a bad idea and a stupid waste of money, and yet, you bring up the OSHT mom that was killed after you started shooting friendlies every opportunity you get. Not to mention that it wasn't even DORM that was involved in that kill! Your corp's posts are a series of contradictions, and people are starting to get over the shock of the drama and realize that.

The real story with your post is that OSHT people have been berating DORM members in a strawman argument for days now, when the raw stats show that DORM killed as much as OSHT, and yet still found time to be the entire industrial backbone of one of the largest and most prolific alliances in the game.

~X

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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I guess this is where we agree to disagree... I used the jump bridges approximately 5 times in what, 6 months we were in TRI? I spent about a week in total in deklein while I ratted for an hour a day to get my sec up. My personal opinion, which I'd guess is shared by many members of SPA is that space means nothing to us - our decision to join TRI in the first place wouldnt've been influenced either way if you'd had no space at all, and barring the chance to kill hostile fleets & capitals (after all, blowing the **** out of things is why we still play), it wouldn't particularly bother us if TRI had lost all its space while we'd been in the alliance.

It just goes to show that there's lots of different ways to play the game; one or the other isn't necessarily wrong, they just don't seem to mix very well in practice.

If I were Darknesss right now, I'd stop worrying about my space so much and get the alliance back on track killing things. Too much of the last couple of months has been full of *****ing and whining (from both sides might I add) and that's not good for anyone.

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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And during the same time, how many sovereignty-holding POS's did you put up? How many outposts did you build? How many jump bridge networks did you design, set up, and supply the fuel for?

You say these things aren't important, but that just shows that your goals were not in line with the alliance's goals.

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Plus, you say POS's aren't important, but I bet you sure did use the jump bridges. You say there's no need to hold space, but yet, we've spent 10 months building one of the largest capital fleets in new eden - what are we going to do with these 200 dreads if TRI goes back to ganking ratting ravens?

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You say that Motherships are a bad idea and a stupid waste of money, and yet, you bring up the OSHT mom that was killed after you started shooting friendlies every opportunity you get. Not to mention that it wasn't even DORM that was involved in that kill!

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Your corp's posts are a series of contradictions, and people are starting to get over the shock of the drama and realize that.

The real story with your post is that OSHT people have been berating DORM members in a strawman argument for days now, when the raw stats show that DORM killed as much as OSHT, and yet still found time to be the entire industrial backbone of one of the largest and most prolific alliances in the game.

~X

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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You barely used the Jump Bridges because you rarely PVP, unless the KB is bugged again you only have 100 kills after being in the Alliance for 6 months. Yeah, i see no point in being in Tri if you aren't going to PvP with Tri.

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Originally by: Lowa

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Good luck to all of you, may you find many willing targets to drill your rails into!
It was a pleasure flying with you and I'm sure we do it again sometime!

And to the carebear discussion, dont hit on DORM, hit on NSN, we are the original carebears and you all know it.

Regards,
NSN and Lowa

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Originally by: Sokata

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i will not read this anymore

is desgusting

i think you all need to grow up,you don't have 12 years anymore

i am ashamed that i was in the same alliance with o**** spa

move on

is only a game

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Originally by: vyperpit

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Originally by: Sokata

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i will not read this anymore

is desgusting

i think you all need to grow up,you don't have 12 years anymore

i am ashamed that i was in the same alliance with o**** spa

move on

is only a game

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I was in VSQ for over a year and had some of the most fun I ever had in EVE there. I wish you all in VSQ all the best, and hope the apparent bitterness between VSQ and O****/SPA doesn't get too far out of hand. ♥ VSQ, Sally and all ♥

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Originally by: Sokata

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when they were in TRI everything was perfect

they left and now TRI is ****

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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Except for when GD boycots the op and threatens to boot his own members if they do attend, like last weekend.

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It was not an alliance authorized op, and you were told this numerous times by Darknesss and the other CEO's. Not only was OSHT not given approval for it, they were specifically told that it was NOT approved after they asked about it.

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Sokata

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when they were in TRI everything was perfect

they left and now TRI is ****

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No. We made a lot of noise while we were in the alliance because things WEREN'T perfect, thats what caused all the angry killboard commands and alliance chat smack, and yet nothing was really done about it. TRI is not ****, but has turned from what (used to be) a purely PVP alliance into a spaceholding alliance, which are 2 different things.

Finally, I'm not too bothered if I offend people in an internet spaceship game

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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And during the same time, how many sovereignty-holding POS's did you put up? How many outposts did you build? How many jump bridge networks did you design, set up, and supply the fuel for?

You say these things aren't important, but that just shows that your goals were not in line with the alliance's goals.

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That's true, the alliance's goals have changed from being a feared pvp alliance to a tame space holding alliance which cares more for holding onto space and not antagonizing their neighbours than killing them. I feel sorry for those dorm pilots that wanted to hotdrop their dreads onto the MM fleet at the weekend, but were prevented from doing so by GD. Those were the ones that want to pvp, and good luck to them.

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Plus, you say POS's aren't important, but I bet you sure did use the jump bridges. You say there's no need to hold space, but yet, we've spent 10 months building one of the largest capital fleets in new eden - what are we going to do with these 200 dreads if TRI goes back to ganking ratting ravens?

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I never said anything of the sort, but there is a huge difference between putting up a couple of POS to have a station to base out of and hopefully get a fight than spamming 20 POS and guarenteeing any scout that comes along to go "sod that". And i love to use dreads, anyone who knows me knows that . We could have used them at the weekend, the spa fc (joefishy?) was well up for losing a bunch of dreads and wiping out a few MM caps & super caps and so was I. But GD wasn't, and boycotted the op for your corp.

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You say that Motherships are a bad idea and a stupid waste of money, and yet, you bring up the OSHT mom that was killed after you started shooting friendlies every opportunity you get. Not to mention that it wasn't even DORM that was involved in that kill!

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Sorry, didn't say that either. That was a Spa poster. I think a couple of mom's per corp are useful and a powerful asset. It does get to the point that more moms are unneeded, but some are deffo good.

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Your corp's posts are a series of contradictions, and people are starting to get over the shock of the drama and realize that.

The real story with your post is that OSHT people have been berating DORM members in a strawman argument for days now, when the raw stats show that DORM killed as much as OSHT, and yet still found time to be the entire industrial backbone of one of the largest and most prolific alliances in the game.

~X

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You really don't get it do you. This massive industrial backbone you're very proud of is fine and good for some types of alliances. ASCN for example. But a pvp alliance that happens to hold some space and a space holding alliance are different things, and we did not want to be a part of the latter. Which is why we chose to leave.

But anyway, good luck in your new blues in Insurgency. They have a good attitude and are not afraid to fight it seems. Give MM/rzr/the other nappers hell.

Max

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Originally by: Hank Showbo

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Xiaodown for prime minister \o/

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Originally by: Jebidus Skari

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You guys are out now so why all these posts - Shouldnt you be happy? No more worry about how Tri is - you can form your own alliance or whatever and become the alliance you believe you should be. Am I wrong.

Almost a week later and still the same posts - move on let it go now..

Tri still have VSQ, D00M, N40, DORM which are still damn fine pvpers. You think losing SPA and Illum is 'really' gonna make a difference. Not in a milllion guys come on....Seriously.....Illum only had an handful of players that fought with each other about 15% of their entire corp! And i never really saw SPA whilst I was in Doom.

Tri are still a pvp alliance!! its like say BoB when they had most of the space that they were not a pvp alliance lmao.. How do you think they funded all those wars? AND WON, how do you think they managed to keep Delve cos they had a stack load of cash to support themselves when the going got tough! My god is it wrong to be a pvp alliance and make money? How the hell you gonna fund that.

All illum did was slag people off if they didnt have 'thier' fit of choice, what makes them the people to know what is best and what is not? Look at the killboard and they slag off ooo if you had this fit then you wouldnt of died then you look at their loses and see hundreds of ships lost with their so called best fits!!
How many times has angel ****** up whilst FCing lots!! thats what...
But yet no one said a fecking word cos it was Angel..
Well bull****...she fecks up just as much as everyone else, she aint perfect and shes a egomaniac simple as....and should of been told that more often and get her off that pedastal.

Rant Over - Sorry but it need to be said

The thing was if you didnt like it why didnt you get out sooner? Why stay? No one kept you in Tri.

let it GO...

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http://o****.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13506

Sup jebidus

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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http://o****.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13506

Sup jebidus

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Edited by: Xiaodown on 24/04/2008 16:38:33

Originally by: XxAngelxX

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http://o****.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13506

Sup jebidus

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This petty crap is why no one respects you, and why your corp is already irrelevant. No one cares what you think about their setups. We can all play this game, if we want.

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=128529 lol laser ishtar
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=127603 lol laser ishtar 2
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=125525 lol nice cap stability on a curse
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=116341 lol t1 speed mod
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102093 lol named reaction control
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=97621 lol aux nano pump with no repper
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=116371 lol t1 speed mod.

But the rest of us don't do this. Why? Because it's immature, and a waste of time.

~X

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Originally by: Jebidus Skari

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lol if you check the other posts ive said the same thing days agp - so you guys ganking me was nothing to do with it - grow up girl, man i did respect you now your just a silly girl with a battered ego...

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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Edited by: Xiaodown on 24/04/2008 16:38:33

Originally by: XxAngelxX

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http://o****.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13506

Sup jebidus

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This petty crap is why no one respects you, and why your corp is already irrelevant. No one cares what you think about their setups. We can all play this game, if we want.

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=128529 lol laser ishtar
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=127603 lol laser ishtar 2
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=125525 lol nice cap stability on a curse
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=116341 lol t1 speed mod
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102093 lol named reaction control
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=97621 lol aux nano pump with no repper
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=116371 lol t1 speed mod.

But the rest of us don't do this. Why? Because it's immature, and a waste of time.

~X

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Originally by: Jebidus Skari

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lol if you check the other posts ive said the same thing days agp - so you guys ganking me was nothing to do with it - grow up girl, man i did respect you now your just a silly girl with a battered ego...

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Actually I'm just arguing for the sake of it avoiding doing a rather nasty essay on property law :P

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Originally by: Zaethiel

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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I guess this is where we agree to disagree...

If I were Darknesss right now, I'd stop worrying about my space so much and get the alliance back on track killing things. Too much of the last couple of months has been full of *****ing and whining (from both sides might I add) and that's not good for anyone.

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You barely used the Jump Bridges because you rarely PVP, unless the KB is bugged again you only have 100 kills after being in the Alliance for 6 months. Yeah, i see no point in being in Tri if you aren't going to PvP with Tri.

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Originally by: Mark Starkiller

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Comfirmed. He has 100 kills in 6 months.
Thanks for all advices Go Maz.

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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This petty crap is why no one respects you, and why your corp is already irrelevant. No one cares what you think about their setups. We can all play this game, if we want.

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=128529 lol laser ishtar
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=127603 lol laser ishtar 2
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=125525 lol nice cap stability on a curse
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=116341 lol t1 speed mod
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102093 lol named reaction control
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=97621 lol aux nano pump with no repper
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=116371 lol t1 speed mod.

But the rest of us don't do this. Why? Because it's immature, and a waste of time.

~X

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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The funniest part will come when some Titan is tackled, and given all of the channels shared by those who left, who do you think will all show up on the KM?? It will be a bunch of Tri, with Illum and the odd CORA and SPA, just you watch.

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Originally by: Kalissa

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Edited by: Kalissa on 24/04/2008 12:32:03
People are talking about what Tri was who werent there so I thought I should give my views on it.
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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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The funniest part will come when some Titan is tackled, and given all of the channels shared by those who left, who do you think will all show up on the KM?? It will be a bunch of Tri, with Illum and the odd CORA and SPA, just you watch.

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Originally by: Viper ****zIe

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Only if it's a TRI titan.

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Originally by: boo3916

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first off, gl to 0****, cora and spa some good guys and gals i,ll miss, all the best to you all.
second, bothers me not 1 iota that some corps leave i remember when tri was 120 strong, dosent matter if were 20 strong or 2000, tri will survive so all stop smacking each other about what happened, only certain people are holding grudges, mainly the immature kids, the rest like me will just get on with it and carry on as normal.

slagging each other off just makes u all luck ****in stupid.
get on with what your doing and enjoy it, i know for a fact fun times are ahead for tri, it will just be more difficult in future, but thats what we want isnt it. DOOM till i die, and die i will, but will be fun doing it

signed, the old grumpy bastard in tri

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Originally by: Kali Ananda

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As a constant foe of the American TZ Tri, I've seen them go from a tight, PVP alliance with very little blues, swell up to become a bloated host for some of the worst renters and allies I have ever seen in my 3 years in game. All this while admitting into their ranks some terrible PVP'ers. Tri was a name that inspired fear and respect, now its headquarters for NAP city.

Best of luck to all those leaving Tri (esp The Illuminati), we're enjoying watching the show with our bags of popcorn here in Pure Blind.

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Originally by: Quaren

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I believe that the problem isn't only GD fitting his ships like an idiot but also that he is probably one of the worst mannered people I have ever met in eve and behaves like a child. Only things I have seen him say in chat and alliance mails have pretty much been insults and threats to his fellow alliance mates. Reminds me of Admiral Iceblock back in the old SA days.

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Mark Starkiller

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Comfirmed. He has 100 kills in 6 months.
Thanks for all advices Go Maz.

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Sure, I'm not the most active PVPer ever but I'm out when I get the chance and not losing ********ly fitted ships like a moron.

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Mark Starkiller

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Comfirmed. He has 100 kills in 6 months.
Thanks for all advices Go Maz.

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Sure, I'm not the most active PVPer ever but I'm out when I get the chance and not losing ********ly fitted ships like a moron.

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Which apparently, you are, Mark Every single loss you've posted on the TRI board has been an utterly terrible fit.

It's you, you're the cancer thats killing TRI.

I'll take my lower activity over your page-long list of embarrassing losses thanks.

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Originally by: Kalissa

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Originally by: Mark Starkiller

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Comfirmed. He has 100 kills in 6 months.
Thanks for all advices Go Maz.

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Sure, I'm not the most active PVPer ever but I'm out when I get the chance and not losing ********ly fitted ships like a moron.

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Which apparently, you are, Mark Every single loss you've posted on the TRI board has been an utterly terrible fit.

It's you, you're the cancer thats killing TRI.

I'll take my lower activity over your page-long list of embarrassing losses thanks.

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You know you're just the kinda person that Joe admitted he had in his corp in the meeting. I think you can guess thats not a good thing. I'm just happy as I'm sure you are that you're no longer a member of Tri. Whatever Tri does now, whatever happens in the future Tri has achieved something. More than you'll ever do.

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Originally by: Kalissa

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You know you're just the kinda person that Joe admitted he had in his corp in the meeting. I think you can guess thats not a good thing. I'm just happy as I'm sure you are that you're no longer a member of Tri. Whatever Tri does now, whatever happens in the future Tri has achieved something. More than you'll ever do.

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Originally by: Braenca

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I will miss the Cora *****cat sigs

this thread=

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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Edited by: GO MaZ on 24/04/2008 23:54:23

Originally by: Kalissa

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You know you're just the kinda person that Joe admitted he had in his corp in the meeting. I think you can guess thats not a good thing. I'm just happy as I'm sure you are that you're no longer a member of Tri. Whatever Tri does now, whatever happens in the future Tri has achieved something. More than you'll ever do.

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1. It's no secret SPA is full of egos - so is O**** and TRI, thats just how it is.
2. Bringing out weakass attempts at flaming my killboard stats has no bearing on the points I brought up about leadership, peoples fittings and alliance PVP skill in general (which had been getting worse steadily since I joined).
3. Yes, I'm glad I'm out of TRI, I was getting bored of reiterating basic ideas about fittings only to be met with blank stares and saliva from the many many dribbling ******s that TRI seems to have attracted in recent months.
4. Sure TRI has achieved something, of this I had no doubt. It was (and still should be) a big-name PVP alliance with many highly skilled players. I'm not trying to diminish this fact, quite the opposite; I had a good time in TRI, even if I wasn't pvping all the time (I have 2 alts btw), and what started out with myself and a couple of others giving people constructive criticism (to try & improve the alliance) about fittings and tactics turned into just epic ranting as we still saw the fail level increase by month.

Lastly, I play the game to have fun (yes, that means alongside people that know how to fit their ships correctly), as should everyone; I have no goals in this game, and I don't feel the need to achieve anything to validate myself and I'd like to point out that most of the time I do TRY to be civil to people. It takes a lot to get me to rant about something but I guess we found out what a lot is, eh.

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Originally by: Kalissa

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I'm just happy as I'm sure you are that you're no longer a member of Tri.

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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The funniest part will come when some Titan is tackled, and given all of the channels shared by those who left, who do you think will all show up on the KM?? It will be a bunch of Tri, with Illum and the odd CORA and SPA, just you watch.

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Originally by: Sacul

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anyway Kill a MM titan and proof the forum brigade wrong

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Originally by: Destr0math

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Originally by: Xiaodown

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There was a time, not too long ago, when Deklin wasn't that well fortified, and when TRI only held minimal POS levels in most systems. When we learned through sources that we were in danger of being invaded, it came time to reinforce our space.

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Originally by: Kalissa

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Originally by: Idaeus

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Originally by: Kalissa

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It was my alt character that actually created the Triumvirate alliance so you could say I've been here from the absolute beginning. When Tri began on a really really good night on a prepared op we could field maybe 30 people, we owned no space had no politics everyone was a target we despised the northern nap situation as it actively worked against PvP. (still does)

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I loved you guys then. It always seemed so easy for LordVodka to **** you guys off (especially EXAN). It got quiet and lonely after TRI picked up and went to Venal.

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Yeah I do have a certain fondness for the old days where Tri was small enough for everyone to know each other, but reality has to be grasped that if we'd have stayed like that, banging our preverbial heads on the nap wall that was the northern alliances at the time that Tri would have disbanded long ago as we'd all have lost heart. Alliances have to evolve and if you don't you'll end up stagnating and dying. It just bummed me out that people were saying what Tri was about in the early days who weren't even in it then and played no part in us gaining the territory we have.

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Originally by: Radeberger

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This thread is lacking a little bit of me, drunk and whatnot

I'd just like to point out that you are all NSA Bivas factor, whatever that is i can't quite put my finger on, but it's somethudfng related to taranis' and Romania.......

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Originally by: Setana Manoro

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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/04/2008 02:36:13

Originally by: Kalissa

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Originally by: Idaeus

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Originally by: Kalissa

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It was my alt character that actually created the Triumvirate alliance so you could say I've been here from the absolute beginning. When Tri began on a really really good night on a prepared op we could field maybe 30 people, we owned no space had no politics everyone was a target we despised the northern nap situation as it actively worked against PvP. (still does)

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I loved you guys then. It always seemed so easy for LordVodka to **** you guys off (especially EXAN). It got quiet and lonely after TRI picked up and went to Venal.

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Yeah I do have a certain fondness for the old days where Tri was small enough for everyone to know each other, but reality has to be grasped that if we'd have stayed like that, banging our preverbial heads on the nap wall that was the northern alliances at the time that Tri would have disbanded long ago as we'd all have lost heart. Alliances have to evolve and if you don't you'll end up stagnating and dying. It just bummed me out that people were saying what Tri was about in the early days who weren't even in it then and played no part in us gaining the territory we have.

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Angel was in Tri from the start if I remember correctly.
I remember her flying around x70, bugging ISS, and everyone thinking whether they would camp EC-P8R or hit another POS with the only 6 dreads you guys had back then. If i remember correctly she was in an Anathema. :)

Originally by: Radeberger

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This thread is lacking a little bit of me, drunk and whatnot

I'd just like to point out that you are all NSA Bivas factor, whatever that is i can't quite put my finger on, but it's somethudfng related to taranis' and Romania.......

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Never heard of this factor, please explain as it's probably very funny. :)

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Originally by: Kodiz

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Maz, I am in your closet.

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Originally by: Quaren

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The sad thing is they can still only field 6 dreads. On the other hand they can field 60 carriers and 20 motherships and still believe they need more moms and not dreads

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Originally by: Voulture

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So, i am not very shocked that with him as a alliance executor TRI will rule the whole universe or something.

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Originally by: Helen

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Originally by: Voulture

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So, i am not very shocked that with him as a alliance executor TRI will rule the whole universe or something.

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he's not the tri alliance executor Darknesss is.

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Originally by: Gjs312

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K, Illuminati are done posting on here for now guys. The horse is quite dead and even viper agrees that its probably not event twitching anymore .

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