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Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 14:59:00 - [91] Originally by: Vin Fell Was frustrated and angry and I logged out of EVE, and TS and Vent. Just lost 50mill in ships(2) in less than 9 minutes. I just read the entire thread here, and I'm going to give it another go. This is a fresh wind and excellent topic. Thanks! Heh bro... have u ever lost 5 cormorants within one hour(when your wallet balance is just above 1mill ISK) and you are a lvl1 mission runner, week or two old? THAT IS CALLED FRUSTRATION. bloody worlds collide mission... As for losing a lot of ISK in short time: Mining fitted rokh(with real good tank tho), with rigs and all stuff t2... so u go to 0.0 station system to dock after a day of hard work...And u get a sleipnir, crow, wolf, and some HAC(can't remmember what it was). They try to kill u for 5 minutes, and no one is there to come and help u out. Finally u die, altogether with about 200+millISK in ship+modules. Few days before that- fleet fight, fully rigged drake(mass tank). u sit on a gate, try to jump through, but due to lagg all u have is 15 ships pounding on you, and the message "session change already in progress" to make u boil...And petition response "we didn't find anything wrong in our logs, sorry for your loss". next day,I am in a belt, with a mark 2 rigged badger, hauling the loot from hauler spawn. rats respawn, i am out of belt, halfway in warp(many, many AU from that belt) and I get message "guristas abolisher scourge missile hits u doing WTF damage...and instead of having a badger docking, i have a pod to stare at in bewilderment...The best one tho? Rigged raven, ratting one. Finished ratting, let's go to POS and log out. enough isk made for the day. logged out at POS. next day - my pod warps from somewhere in space to the POS spot I logged out at. again-"nothing wrong with our logs, sorry for loss"...Noone had access to my account. SO I STARTED PLAYING WoW TO COOL OFF...DIED SO MANY TIMES NEVER LOST ONE BIT OF MONEY, OR ITEMS. YAWN...4 weeks later back to EVE, my wallet hits 600 mill, i got another fleet of caldari battleships(all three), full rack of throwaway cruisers, frigates, let's go! (lost all of them by now, tho...) The game rolls hard over ya if u don't look at it from the bright side... Don't quit to a few insignificant losses. grow past it, and have fun when u lose really expensive stuff.
Kherie Kali Amarr Hello KItty Entrepreneurs	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:00:00 - [92] Edited by: Kherie Kali on 06/05/2008 15:00:59 Originally by: Saori Rei Want to improve EvE? Here's how! 1) PVP flags. If you want pvp, a little red flag appears on your ship. If you dont you get a white one and are invincible. 2) Seperate servers. One for PvP, one for PvE just like UO had... has? 3) With every subscription one gets a free 14 days on hello kitty online. Even better, playing HKO for at least a month provides you with a unique code for the Hello Kitty faction ship of your race. Imagine that! Now THAT will boost PVP... pastel pink Gallente Hyperions.... twitch Ugh going to go wash my brain out with soap and get back to PROPER PvP... twitch What's wrong with Hello Kitty?
Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:02:00 - [93] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Instanced PVP goes against the very first design principles of EVE; the core of EVE. If we would change that it would change the very nature of the game we love. A single shard No instance Just one harsh, brutal universe where your highs and lows mean something real. I can't believe 2 times in a row I agree with a DEV post on some of the topics I am posting on!
mama guru Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:10:00 - [94] Edited by: mama guru on 06/05/2008 15:10:31 Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Instanced PVP goes against the very first design principles of EVE; the core of EVE. If we would change that it would change the very nature of the game we love. A single shard No instance Just one harsh, brutal universe where your highs and lows mean something real. I Love CCP. You guys wont turn this game into WOW in space, thank you for that. Edit: NINJA, you did not see that
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:17:00 - [95] Edited by: Shadowsword on 06/05/2008 15:21:21 Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Instanced PVP goes against the very first design principles of EVE; the core of EVE. If we would change that it would change the very nature of the game we love. A single shard No instance Just one harsh, brutal universe where your highs and lows mean something real. I understand what you mean, and I agree with the general idea, but since you have a loading time each time you enter a system, isn't Eve in fact a multitude of micro-instances? I don't much love instanced pvp, especially in a game like Eve, but if it's a choice between instanced pvp or laggy pvp, instanced pvp might be the lesser of two evil.
Sharp Feather Gallente Ministry of Natural Resources OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:18:00 - [96] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Instanced PVP goes against the very first design principles of EVE; the core of EVE. If we would change that it would change the very nature of the game we love. A single shard No instance Just one harsh, brutal universe where your highs and lows mean something real. Pffff, casual fun is casual, but fun none the less. Nothing wrong in wanting to log for 1 hour, have some pvp ( talking about pvp here... not gank, rape, gangbang or SPgrampa ) whitout having to refit a ship every time you die in a 10 gate away system plus re-updating a clone and implants. ... and thats only if you find people. Think outside the box, think about it. It wont replace World pvp, since its not permanent... its only an instance. FAT corp that want to fight over territory wont die because of it. We dont ask to take from people we ask you to give. /facepalm

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:23:00 - [97] Originally by: Sharp Feather Nothing wrong in wanting to log for 1 hour, have some pvp whitout having to refit a ship every time you die in a 10 gate away system plus re-updating a clone and implants. Try SiSi, Fightclub. Although you do need to refit there as well. We expect to see more casual pvp emerge with the next expansion but it will not be instanced the way you¦d want it. Instance pvp is simply not EVE and we feel very strongly about that.

Sally Bestonge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:24:00 - [98] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Originally by: Sharp Feather Nothing wrong in wanting to log for 1 hour, have some pvp whitout having to refit a ship every time you die in a 10 gate away system plus re-updating a clone and implants. Try SiSi, Fightclub. Although you do need to refit there as well. We expect to see more casual pvp emerge with the next expansion but it will not be instanced the way you¦d want it. Instance pvp is simply not EVE and we feel very strongly about that. sisi is fun because its easy to fit ships and you dont have to care about losses completely unlike the real game so if you suck try to learn there.
Havohej Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:26:00 - [99] Originally by: Sharp Feather Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Instanced PVP goes against the very first design principles of EVE; the core of EVE. If we would change that it would change the very nature of the game we love. A single shard No instance Just one harsh, brutal universe where your highs and lows mean something real. Pffff, casual fun is casual, but fun none the less. Nothing wrong in wanting to log for 1 hour, have some pvp ( talking about pvp here... not gank, rape, gangbang or SPgrampa ) whitout having to refit a ship every time you die in a 10 gate away system plus re-updating a clone and implants. ... and thats only if you find people. Think outside the box, think about it. It wont replace World pvp, since its not permanent... its only an instance. FAT corp that want to fight over territory wont die because of it. We dont ask to take from people we ask you to give. /facepalm EVE's refusal to have shards and instances IS 'outside the box.' You're asking them to go back INto the box. World of Warcraft has shards and instances - you should play that when you want to PvP without risk of actually LOSING anything. As Eris said, the nature of EVE is that your highs and lows mean something real. This is working as intended. If you want to PvP in EVE, then you're going to have to buy and fit a new ship when you lose, and you might have to buy new implants, too.
Sharp Feather Gallente Ministry of Natural Resources OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:27:00 - [100] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Originally by: Sharp Feather Nothing wrong in wanting to log for 1 hour, have some pvp whitout having to refit a ship every time you die in a 10 gate away system plus re-updating a clone and implants. Try SiSi, Fightclub. Although you do need to refit there as well. We expect to see more casual pvp emerge with the next expansion but it will not be instanced the way you¦d want it. Instance pvp is simply not EVE and we feel very strongly about that. I have no idea what you are talking about and anyway its not theses games ( if they are games ) its EVE I want to play. I understand what you are trying to say anyway... so yeah, w/e, it was just a suggestion, so relax. Just tell me what would be SO BAD about it?

Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:28:00 - [101] Originally by: Shadowsword I understand what you mean, and I agree with the general idea, but since you have a loading time each time you enter a system, isn't Eve in fact a multitude of micro-instances? No. Instancing isn't a function of load times, but of extremely limited access, usually that of one person, one designated team, or two designated teams.
Haakelen United Forces Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:33:00 - [102] All the discussion of instancing seems to ignore the fact that to implement it, they'd have to take effort away from other pursuits. Lag reduction, for example. Enhancing sovereignty. Personally, I'd rather see the time spent on improving the current systems than starting an entirely new group of game mechanics that will bring upon new bugs.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:35:00 - [103] Originally by: Sharp Feather Try SiSi, Fightclub. Although you do need to refit there as well. We expect to see more casual pvp emerge with the next expansion but it will not be instanced the way you¦d want it. Instance pvp is simply not EVE and we feel very strongly about that. I have no idea what you are talking about and anyway its not theses games ( if they are games ) its EVE I want to play. I understand what you are trying to say anyway... so yeah, w/e, it was just a suggestion, so relax. Just tell me what would be SO BAD about it? SiSi is the EvE test server where you can go buy any named T1/T2 item for 100isk apiece. It's very easy to learn PvP skills there without losing tons of ISK. Not sure what Fightclub is.

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.05.06 15:59:00 - [104] Fightclub was a corp that existed for combat testing on Sisi. We made it a little easier, and just created the Free For All (FFA) arenas instead.

Feilamya Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 16:43:00 - [105] Originally by: Sharp Feather I have no idea what you are talking about and anyway its not theses games ( if they are games ) its EVE I want to play. No, you don't. Proof: This thread.
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:07:00 - [106] Edited by: Siege on 06/05/2008 17:10:37 Edited by: Siege on 06/05/2008 17:08:01 Originally by: Sharp Feather Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Originally by: Sharp Feather Nothing wrong in wanting to log for 1 hour, have some pvp whitout having to refit a ship every time you die in a 10 gate away system plus re-updating a clone and implants. Try SiSi, Fightclub. Although you do need to refit there as well. We expect to see more casual pvp emerge with the next expansion but it will not be instanced the way you¦d want it. Instance pvp is simply not EVE and we feel very strongly about that. I have no idea what you are talking about and anyway its not theses games ( if they are games ) its EVE I want to play. I understand what you are trying to say anyway... so yeah, w/e, it was just a suggestion, so relax. Just tell me what would be SO BAD about it? For one thing, the economy is dependant on high loss rates to function. Every builder and miner out there needs people to be blowing each other up and losing ships. In order to have a player driven economy, you need a market for the goods. If you remove ship and module loss from the game, you will also have destroyed the economic system as well. The other side is that PvP in eve has some meaning to it. All the other battlefield/instanced PvP out there it's just die, respawn, repeat until you get bored. Nobody cares what happens really,. Other than your kill number for this month, I bet it's hard to remember your opponents and individual fights. Eve PvP has an actual impact. You WILL remember that great fight 3 years ago, or those two motherships, or that one alliance you fought for 3 months. Yes, losing is harsh. But.... Isn't winning a big fight THAT much cooler here than the last time you won in "useless Gulch" or whatever it was? Eve was made to be unique in that regard. People start playing for the pretty spaceships. They Keep playing because of the depth of the game. To put it simply, if you move pvp into instances and remove shiploss, you might as well start shopping for the next MMO, because you just killed the game. Ask yourself this, why would players have been going at this for 5 years now? Eve isn't about casual pvp. It's about dedication, persistance, patience, depth, victory, loss, elation, agony, fortitude and chutzpah. It's all that, and just happens to have pretty spaceships in it. I know things seem rough now, but stick with it and eventually you will realize what makes the game great are the very things that you want to change. With dedication comes the rewards. As to SiSi, that is the EVE test server where new ideas and software is tested. Modules and ships are cheap there to facilitate that testing. So you can buy a huge pile of ships, go blowing stuff up, and have some fun there. It's a great place to practice pvp and try out new ship setups. Just remember though, if you see something all goofy to submit a bug report. CCP is nice enough to let us play there, so make sure to return the favor and help them out to fix problems.
Masu'di Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:11:00 - [107] Edited by: Masu''di on 06/05/2008 17:13:22 Originally by: Benco97 Everyone started PVP without a clue, newbies these days HAVE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD. Yes agreed, I grew up in the early years with an unPvPing father. He did not whine. He got in his Rifter and looked for PvP, and he went on looking until he found it!
Peter Powers Master Miners Intruders.	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:42:00 - [108] Edited by: Peter Powers on 06/05/2008 17:42:33 Originally by: Sharp Feather You know whats so awesome about video games? Its the fact that you can have a good bit of fun whitout the consequence. Its so sad that I cant jump in an instance and try and learn how to pvp whitout losing ships to massive GANG BANG one sided 4 years old characters. thats actually why i do play eve, how much is a win worth if you did not win anything? how much is a lose worth if you havent lost anything? its one thing i hated about all other mmo i tried. i do want consequences. i do want the feeling of winning (and losing). i do want competition. if you do not want that - there are hundrets of mmo out there which have your instanced pvp, which have your mikey-mouse-not-losing thing. which have a graveyard where you just stand up. Originally by: Sharp Feather Carebear? Carebear? Ahahah you guys make me laugh sooOooO hard when you are all throwing ''you are a carebear'' at each other. You are all carebears and If it wasnt the case everyone would run around alone and shot at each other just worrying about how to have more fun. actually you did not get what carebear means. also i wont call you carebear, i call you whiner. Originally by: Sharp Feather Lucky me, I can level whitout playing the game which fulfil my MMO hunger whitout whitout losing IRL time. there is no leveling in eve. Originally by: Sharp Feather That being said. Im out. maybe thats better.
Pesadel0 Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:38:00 - [109] No.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:03:00 - [110] Originally by: Pesadel0 No. This TBQFH, every time an MMO adopts instancing God kills a baby kitten, please think of the kittens! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed

Dal Thrax Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:59:00 - [111] Originally by: Acies Invictus I'm 3 weeks into the game and I joined a PvP Corp in null sec. Guess what, I learn quickly and rat on the side if I'm broke. It's really not that difficult. Solo PvP is harder. But I did that for a couple weeks and never had grievous loses. Know when to fight and when to flight. Most 0.0 corps are always recruiting. Finding folks willing to fly in 0.0 is like pulling teeth.
Sharp Feather Gallente Ministry of Natural Resources OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 20:09:00 - [112] there is no leveling in eve. AH yeah? Because my drone skill is lvl 5, and cruiser skill is lvl 4... wait, that mean theres levels?! Zomg, STFU already.
Balen Organa Caldari	Posted - 2008.05.06 20:49:00 - [113] My opinion on PVP. Normally I do not like PVP and believe the game should allow a seperation that if someone does not wish to participate they should not have to. In this game it is a bit different and unfotunatly you just have to put up with it. I have seen worse. There are players who seem to make that their profession to gate camp and take out frigates with their battlecruisers. As if that somehow proves something. I've seen 2 battleships and 3 battle cruisers gate camp and destroy 1 cruiser. Again as if that proves something. It proves the mentality of that person or person(s) who kill just for the sake of killing and in the end I shrug, go back to base, purchase another ship, refit and move on. Or I avoid low sec space all together. You have to take it as that and just ignore it. I have not gone to low sec or PVP'd by choice yet. I dont have the money or the ship to do so. As of now I can't see much reason to. Mining in high sec at the moment is much better, some stuff is cheaper but not much, and there is no fun in jumping getting ganked and having to rebuild. I have witnessed some nobility, got webbed, was ready to go down when the opposition stopped seeing I was a new player and simply let me go about my way, but thats not very common. A mark of how well PVP is implemented is whether it adds to the game or takes away from it. In Eve PVP adds to the game since players are allowed to take over certain parts of space and try to keep them. So its well implemented albeit somewhat unbalanced. But in general not too bad. I think the players need to self - police, a policy that rarely works.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 21:07:00 - [114] Originally by: Balen Organa My opinion on PVP. Normally I do not like PVP and believe the game should allow a seperation that if someone does not wish to participate they should not have to. In this game it is a bit different and unfotunatly you just have to put up with it. I have seen worse. There are players who seem to make that their profession to gate camp and take out frigates with their battlecruisers. As if that somehow proves something. I've seen 2 battleships and 3 battle cruisers gate camp and destroy 1 cruiser. Again as if that proves something. It proves the mentality of that person or person(s) who kill just for the sake of killing and in the end I shrug, go back to base, purchase another ship, refit and move on. Or I avoid low sec space all together. You have to take it as that and just ignore it. I have not gone to low sec or PVP'd by choice yet. I dont have the money or the ship to do so. As of now I can't see much reason to. Mining in high sec at the moment is much better, some stuff is cheaper but not much, and there is no fun in jumping getting ganked and having to rebuild. I have witnessed some nobility, got webbed, was ready to go down when the opposition stopped seeing I was a new player and simply let me go about my way, but thats not very common. A mark of how well PVP is implemented is whether it adds to the game or takes away from it. In Eve PVP adds to the game since players are allowed to take over certain parts of space and try to keep them. So its well implemented albeit somewhat unbalanced. But in general not too bad. I think the players need to self - police, a policy that rarely works. The thing is, you're stopping the PvP comparison befor ethe real PvP bit. EVE is a game of tactics, which is quite unlike what you're likely to find in WoW or similar. If theres a group of 4 people camping a gate, and you jump in, you'll get blown up. But thats not the PvP part. To take part in PvP in EVE, you've got to take teh next step. You get together a small group of your own players, and you try to bust that camp. Or you lure them in to an ambush. Or you set up a trap for them in the next system over. In fact, you don't even need to fit any guns in order to PvP in EVE. One of my very favourite aspects of PvP is in the thrill of the chase. Some of my best PvP experiences have been in trying to figure out ways around gate camps, trying to dash through them and get past without being popped. making the desperate dash over a few systems, with the pirate gang hot on your tale, until you finally get the distance necessary to make a safe spot. This is not only a great deal of fun; in some respects, it's even more fun than just blowing people up. Even the satisfaction of finding an alternate route around a camp is an experience everyone needs to have once. If all you're doing is jumping in to a camp and getting blown up, you haven't really experienced PvP yet.
Peter Powers Master Miners Intruders.	Posted - 2008.05.06 21:07:00 - [115] Originally by: Sharp Feather AH yeah? Because my drone skill is lvl 5, and cruiser skill is lvl 4... wait, that mean theres levels?! Zomg, STFU already. What action is it in eve that raises your skill to a certain Level? You put 'em on Training and train the skills, you dont "level" your character or skill. Ever read any of that ingame text? it sais "Train Skill" not "Level Skill". Thank you.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 21:19:00 - [116] Edited by: ElCoCo on 06/05/2008 21:22:53 Originally by: Peter Powers Originally by: Sharp Feather AH yeah? Because my drone skill is lvl 5, and cruiser skill is lvl 4... wait, that mean theres levels?! Zomg, STFU already. What action is it in eve that raises your skill to a certain Level? You put 'em on Training and train the skills, you dont "level" your character or skill. Ever read any of that ingame text? it sais "Train Skill" not "Level Skill". Thank you. "Practice" makes you "better". "Playing" enables you to get "better" ships and fit them "better". Having several ships makes you less reluctant to put a few at risk. Whining doesn't raise your skill at all methinks. edit: btw quoting you doesn't seem this is aimed at you
Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 00:15:00 - [117] If u want one hour of pvp one day, then the day before that u should bring your ship equipped for pvp, bring it to low sec, or next door to low sec and log out. next time u wake up, enter low sec, start jumping belts hopeful that u will catch someone u can kill. Hopefully, I'd like u to find me, I don;t like being ganked, but do like to hand out a first class whooping to a wannabe-ganker. And the best part about looking for someone is the adrenaline surge because u know the fight might not end to your convenience.
Killer Kelly Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.07 00:26:00 - [118] I joined an alliance about one month into the game and was fully acclimated to small gang warfare in about three weeks. I now am training for ECM ships. 4 year old characters are beatable. You just need to keep your head up. ___________ I Get Money in New Eden Federation
Batolemaeus Caldari Batolemaeus Corp	Posted - 2008.05.07 00:35:00 - [119] Originally by: Shadowsword I understand what you mean, and I agree with the general idea, but since you have a loading time each time you enter a system, isn't Eve in fact a multitude of micro-instances? Yes and no. Eve is not instanced in a way other games are. True, Every solar system is a little "shard", but the important thing is, that there are connections between them. Instancing in Mmos means, that there are certain areas of the game that can exist as multiple copies for different players. One example would be Guildwars, which is heavily instanced. You can't just walk into the instances of others, while in eve you can reach nearly any place any other can visit - at least theoretically.
Ish'Tara	Posted - 2008.05.07 01:45:00 - [120] Edited by: Ish''Tara on 07/05/2008 01:45:54 I agree with OP. Change the PVP to instancing but I'd like to see more changes and I'll list them: - the market should be changed from a free market to an auction house type of market - faction items should be given colours to indicate value and quality - faction and expensive items should be free and available to everyone willing to invest the time in them so they should be instanced, like DED's but with named bosses and maybe 40 people gangs necessary to complete them taking several hours - these instanced DED's should be made colourfull and pretty and made dungeon like - the bosses at the end should hold a captivating speach - the boss drop system should be added up in EKP (EvE Kill Points) to make it fair on those who are willing to invest the time in them - these expensive items should not be resellable due to theft and 'bind' to character when used or 'worn' - characters should be able to advance through another system than just SP and PVE grindng and ratting should allow for this which will save valuable time so that max level is attainable by all - more classes should be added to EVE so that people can empathise more with their character, e.g. Minmatar Speed Hunter or Amarr Tank Warrior and Caldari Missile Rogue. The name Gallente DPS Warlock has a nice ring to it don't you agree? - missions should be changed from kill a whole room of ships to kill a certain amount of ships of a certain type or loot so many things and return them to the agent, it will simplify missions and make them a lot easier for everyone - EVE should have PVP and PVE shards or servers so the people who don't want to get 'killed' play on a PVE server - kill penalty should not be the loss of your ship but simply resurrecting at a type of ship graveyard with no losses. This will make it easier for beginning players. - name of the game should be changed from EVE Online to WoE meaning World of Evecraft - people who don't like the harshness of EVE should leave and play WoW - WoW is a boring game which I only play as stress relief - can I have your stuff before you leave?



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