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Breka Muso	Posted - 2008.05.07 02:01:00 - [121] Edited by: Breka Muso on 07/05/2008 02:03:24 There is a reason that EVE is one of the most succesful MMOs created (this statement is based on fact not opinion). I am a New Player who has been ganked a number of times. I get upset everytime but I understand that it is an aspect of the game and love EVE for it! EVE is not a game of Instant Gratification. I wan't to work towards something and be able to be set back! This is life so get used it. This game offers both the best of Highs and Lows. I know truely open SandBox high adrenaline PvP is waiting for me in EVE with both immense Rewards and devastating Loses. EVE is a game that requires Intelligence and Understanding. If any other New Players refuse to accept this it is most likely that you live most of your life off of Instant Gratification. Never being satisfied with what your doing, and attempt to find something new to feed your hunger until the cycle repeats itself. It is real simple people. There is a saying that "Some of the happiest people in the World, come home everyday from a hard days work." You can't be happy all the time, it is not natural. EVE encorporates this into an MMO. That is what makes EVE so beautiful. CCP you have gone above and beyond with your work and I hope you continue to do so (I know you will). There is a reason EVE is one of the most succesful MMOs created and will continue to be (this statement is base on fact not opinion).
ChronoLynx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.05.07 02:26:00 - [122] Edited by: ChronoLynx on 07/05/2008 02:29:23 Originally by: Breka Muso Edited by: Breka Muso on 07/05/2008 02:03:24 There is a reason that EVE is one of the most succesful MMOs created (this statement is based on fact not opinion). I am a New Player who has been ganked a number of times. I get upset everytime but I understand that it is an aspect of the game and love EVE for it! EVE is not a game of Instant Gratification. I wan't to work towards something and be able to be set back! This is life so get used it. This game offers both the best of Highs and Lows. I know truely open SandBox high adrenaline PvP is waiting for me in EVE with both immense Rewards and devastating Loses. EVE is a game that requires Intelligence and Understanding. If any other New Players refuse to accept this it is most likely that you live most of your life off of Instant Gratification. Never being satisfied with what your doing, and attempt to find something new to feed your hunger until the cycle repeats itself. It is real simple people. There is a saying that "Some of the happiest people in the World, come home everyday from a hard days work." You can't be happy all the time, it is not natural. EVE encorporates this into an MMO. That is what makes EVE so beautiful. CCP you have gone above and beyond with your work and I hope you continue to do so (I know you will). There is a reason EVE is one of the most succesful MMOs created and will continue to be (this statement is base on fact not opinion). Totally agree with this. EvE is EvE because of all the systems it incorporates. If you added sharding into EvE you might as well go play * (I put stars there because I believe it should be a curse on the forums... wow). Anyways back to the point. When I die, some days I get **ed off, some days I laugh my ass off at the loss. I lost an Arazu worth 175m with fittings about a week back and it was great. The reason it was so great is because I distracted 4 of the 6 people I engaged long enough for my gang to get to them and blow them to the stoneage and back. Overall I was happy, even though I had lost my ship. And as far as losing great amounts of ships... November... 2004... 2nd full week... that was a black week for me. 35 Caracal class ships lost to NPCs in Empire. Missions were not nice with the lack of midslots and the lack of skills to fit it. (6million SP). Now... as for my PvP 101 Days... I started in PvP 99. Basically I learned that if I was mining in an asteroid belt with my harvesters my mentor would pop them. Now for PvP 101 (Warning... Steep Learning Curve Ahead). 1. Get into a frigate. 2. Fit a Scram, Web, and MWD or AB. 3. Get into a gang. 4. Go tackle someone for your gang to kill. 5a. If you live Cheer (for beer?) and repeat step 4. 5b. If you die see step 1. Sometimes I wish I could remember; Sometimes I wish I could forget.
Lrd Byron	Posted - 2008.05.07 07:28:00 - [123] as much as the op is trolling, he does have something of a point to make. Getting experience in PvP is really not as simple as slapping some basic gear on a frigate and having at it. You don't learn anything if you get popped in 5 seconds. You can get a bunch of friends together but you don't learn anything either if you kill your enemy in 5 seconds. The problem is that it is hard to find fights that are not predestined to be a roflstomping one way or the other right from the start. Not to mention its kind of a ***** to get a gang of people together to go roaming for two hours and probably come home with a few shuttle kills under their belt.
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.07 08:39:00 - [124] Some people like the gang-bang.
Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 09:20:00 - [125] Edited by: Sunbird Huy on 07/05/2008 09:28:07 Originally by: Ish'Tara Edited by: Ish''Tara on 07/05/2008 01:45:54 I agree with OP. Change the PVP to instancing but I'd like to see more changes and I'll list them: - the market should be changed from a free market to an auction house type of market - faction items should be given colours to indicate value and quality - faction and expensive items should be free and available to everyone willing to invest the time in them so they should be instanced, like DED's but with named bosses and maybe 40 people gangs necessary to complete them taking several hours - these instanced DED's should be made colourfull and pretty and made dungeon like - the bosses at the end should hold a captivating speach - the boss drop system should be added up in EKP (EvE Kill Points) to make it fair on those who are willing to invest the time in them - these expensive items should not be resellable due to theft and 'bind' to character when used or 'worn' - characters should be able to advance through another system than just SP and PVE grindng and ratting should allow for this which will save valuable time so that max level is attainable by all - more classes should be added to EVE so that people can empathise more with their character, e.g. Minmatar Speed Hunter or Amarr Tank Warrior and Caldari Missile Rogue. The name Gallente DPS Warlock has a nice ring to it don't you agree? - missions should be changed from kill a whole room of ships to kill a certain amount of ships of a certain type or loot so many things and return them to the agent, it will simplify missions and make them a lot easier for everyone - EVE should have PVP and PVE shards or servers so the people who don't want to get 'killed' play on a PVE server - kill penalty should not be the loss of your ship but simply resurrecting at a type of ship graveyard with no losses. This will make it easier for beginning players. - name of the game should be changed from EVE Online to WoE meaning World of Evecraft - people who don't like the harshness of EVE should leave and play WoW - WoW is a boring game which I only play as stress relief - can I have your stuff before you leave? OH PLEASE GO BACK TO WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT If u walk down a street and guy wants to rob you, he points a gun at your face. If he knows there is no police around, he will shoot you if necessary. If the policeman is nearby, he will walk by. that's same in EVE.(concord sux lol)
Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.07 09:25:00 - [126] Originally by: Lrd Byron as much as the op is trolling, he does have something of a point to make. Getting experience in PvP is really not as simple as slapping some basic gear on a frigate and having at it. You don't learn anything if you get popped in 5 seconds. You can get a bunch of friends together but you don't learn anything either if you kill your enemy in 5 seconds. The problem is that it is hard to find fights that are not predestined to be a roflstomping one way or the other right from the start. Not to mention its kind of a ***** to get a gang of people together to go roaming for two hours and probably come home with a few shuttle kills under their belt. it is quite simple to get pvp experience. It is probably expensive learning, but hey, that's what EVE is about. The best learning is from more experienced players that let u tag along with them. I joined a fleet of 4 battleships(heavy skilled pilots, all) in a caracal. i was a bait for them. got a warp scram and web on me. prevent the guy from running until they come to do the kill. or, if there is a bigger gang, they engage, i warp in and prevent them from escaping. Just takes time. And basis u learn from NPC- how to orbit, ranges of your weapons, your tanks, your reflexes. simple really. and watch closely what they do.
Ish'Tara	Posted - 2008.05.07 09:29:00 - [127] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Ish'Tara - name of the game should be changed from EVE Online to WoE meaning World of Evecraft - people who don't like the harshness of EVE should leave and play WoW - WoW is a boring game which I only play as stress relief - can I have your stuff before you leave? OH PLEASE GO BACK TO WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Either you're trolling or just plain stupid.
Ish'Tara	Posted - 2008.05.07 09:50:00 - [128] Edited by: Ish''Tara on 07/05/2008 09:50:13 Originally by: Sunbird Huy EDIT If u walk down a street and guy wants to rob you, he points a gun at your face. If he knows there is no police around, he will shoot you if necessary. If the policeman is nearby, he will walk by. that's same in EVE.(concord sux lol) Concord aren't here to make sure Empire is 100% safe just like in the real world they will provide a form of solution not prevention. That is one of the great beauties of EvE.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.05.07 10:37:00 - [129] In case I haven't responded to this yet. No. No. A thousand times no. If you want PVP instances, go on the test server and play with friends, or go back to WoW. Goal Line Blitz, an American Football MMO Vote Jade for CSM.
Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:27:00 - [130] Originally by: Ish'Tara Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Ish'Tara - name of the game should be changed from EVE Online to WoE meaning World of Evecraft - people who don't like the harshness of EVE should leave and play WoW - WoW is a boring game which I only play as stress relief - can I have your stuff before you leave? OH PLEASE GO BACK TO WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Either you're trolling or just plain stupid. did i call u stupid? nope. If u think that making EVE look like WoW is gonna improve it, u really are in the wrong place. and u already have ships with specific roles, they are usually called t2 ships, like electronic assault frigates, each race has specific bonuses. Giving them such names as u propose, really makes me wonder how long u have been hooked on WoW, and how old u really are: 11? 12? naah...8 is too much for ya.

Timaios Art of War Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:08:00 - [131] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Ish'Tara Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Ish'Tara - name of the game should be changed from EVE Online to WoE meaning World of Evecraft - people who don't like the harshness of EVE should leave and play WoW - WoW is a boring game which I only play as stress relief - can I have your stuff before you leave? OH PLEASE GO BACK TO WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Either you're trolling or just plain stupid. did i call u stupid? nope. If u think that making EVE look like WoW is gonna improve it, u really are in the wrong place. and u already have ships with specific roles, they are usually called t2 ships, like electronic assault frigates, each race has specific bonuses. Giving them such names as u propose, really makes me wonder how long u have been hooked on WoW, and how old u really are: 11? 12? naah...8 is too much for ya. Sorry, but he called you stupid since you didn't notice that the poster you quoted was highly ironic, which you'd have noticed had you read his post to the end (it's quite obvious due to the last line of his post).
Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:21:00 - [132] Originally by: Sharp Feather YEEHA!
GSMagrahorn	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:40:00 - [133] Yeah, there is the test server!!!! Use it. Also the only real true way to get PVP experience is to go out and do it. This is why eve is a sandbox game, nothing is cheap, nothing is easy. BAck when i was a n00b people would always say when u pvp, fly what you can afford to loose, i never listened. If i had 30 mil, i would fly a prophecy. My first PVP experiece i didn't even fit any tank on, just a whole load of gank. I was thinking to myself, look at me, i am in a BC and real hard. .... I died very quickly You wanna pew pew pew, join a pirate corp, or an anti-pie corp. Or get a frig, or can flip whatever, just don't beg for a "duel" or whatever. tl:dr Grow some grapefruit and grap you guns, go low sec
Sunbird Huy Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 17:46:00 - [134] I'm just ****ed this topic is even existing. when I saw another: "you could do this, you could do that..." I stopped reading, and made another angry post. Sorry. Irony FTW! oh, we could also introduce enchantment stuff, like u put good magic on your ship, like immortality for 30 minutes or something? ;p
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.08 17:49:00 - [135] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Instanced PVP goes against the very first design principles of EVE; the core of EVE. How ironic that the one dev to show balls (of steel) and tell it straight like it is has (physically) none in real-life __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards Don't be a social moron, read and vote after you decide !
Savant Hayt Minmatar The Reich	Posted - 2008.05.08 18:25:00 - [136] 0/ biweekly instance/sharing troll. now **** off. smootches.
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2008.05.09 01:12:00 - [137] For those worried about the cost of learning PVP, I have two words "Eve University" Nothing but respect for them. You want to learn? Seek that alliance, join up, and reap the rewards. A very class act all around. ------ begin signature ----- Little known Eve fact, The original race names were: Amarr Empire, Caldar Empire, Minmatar Republic, The Jovians, and The Remanaquie Federation.


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