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Kavez Vek
TROJAN TRANSPORT
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Posted - 2012.03.01 06:21:00 -
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Thought I would give the heads up about a couple of pirates who were flying around Tintoh
Amber Thetawaves
Andrew Jackson Jihad
I paid the ransom, as the screenshot demonstrates. You've been warned not to pay. Here is the screenshot along with the killboard:
http://i42.tinypic.com/s658wj.jpg
http://mongsmarauders.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2688 |
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.03.01 06:41:00 -
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Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time. |
Kavez Vek
TROJAN TRANSPORT
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Posted - 2012.03.01 06:51:00 -
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Gritz1 wrote:Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time.
Turns out. |
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.03.01 06:51:00 -
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Kavez Vek wrote:Gritz1 wrote:Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time. Turns out.
Wish I could of told you that ealier on  |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
931
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Posted - 2012.03.01 07:36:00 -
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Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D
CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. |
Kavez Vek
TROJAN TRANSPORT
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Posted - 2012.03.01 07:57:00 -
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Darius III wrote:Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D
I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially. |
Dead Loss
Sweet Capsuleer Tears
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Posted - 2012.03.01 09:01:00 -
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233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1629
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Posted - 2012.03.01 12:24:00 -
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Dead Loss wrote:233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh
Confirming everyone has all their ISK on one character . Nice smack attempt but it just makes you look ignorant.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
255
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Posted - 2012.03.01 12:38:00 -
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Dead Loss wrote:233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh
I have never had more than 5000 ISK in my feather lite wallet, but a poor peasant is often still a happy one sir. You should feel ashamed for the nasty jestings.
Black Man with Goggles |
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
S O L A R I S
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:00:00 -
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Kavez Vek wrote:Darius III wrote:Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially.
the answer it's easy: when the noobs find out why Concord not shooty, also the same noobs won't fall for the trick (or won't fall again), so basicaly you have no reason (except some stupid and costly "ehonour") to keep isk and release the ship. So as a basic rule don't pay ransoms in hisec and you will be fine.
P.S.
i almost forgot: also when you will ask for ransoms in hisec don't forget to pop the guy after he pays, the reason for this (except isk ofc) is his tears/rage, threats, fanmail and so on  |
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Sir Lomax
Double-Down
Narwhals Ate My Duck
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:22:00 -
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I can't believe missioners still shoot at ninja salvagers. |
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
S O L A R I S
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:25:00 -
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Sir Lomax wrote:I can't believe missioners still shoot at ninja salvagers.
Believe me they shoot the ninja; you must learn how to be very annoying and they will shoot you.
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1651
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:48:00 -
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I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2012.03.01 16:58:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.
You don't say...  |
Kavez Vek
TROJAN TRANSPORT
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Posted - 2012.03.01 21:25:00 -
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Kazacy wrote:Kavez Vek wrote:Darius III wrote:Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially. the answer it's easy: when the noobs find out why Concord not shooty, also the same noobs won't fall for the trick (or won't fall again), so basicaly you have no reason (except some stupid and costly "ehonour") to keep isk and release the ship. So as a basic rule don't pay ransoms in hisec and you will be fine. P.S. i almost forgot: also when you will ask for ransoms in hisec don't forget to pop the guy after he pays, the reason for this (except isk ofc) is his tears/rage, threats, fanmail and so on
Popular L4 mission hubs are going to be where these people are. If the population there is made aware, they still net loss money from the lack of ransoms.
P.S.
Pretty douchy. |
Kavez Vek
TROJAN TRANSPORT
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Posted - 2012.03.01 23:54:00 -
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Dead Loss wrote:233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh
I don't even know what he was trying to do here. |
Garven Dreis
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
Stay Calm Don't Panic
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Posted - 2012.03.02 03:27:00 -
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Judging by the killmail, I don't think Sansha's Nation cares about Ransoms
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Amber Thetawaves
Mong's Marauders
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Posted - 2012.03.02 04:50:00 -
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all this for 50m? ahaha. pure gold
and of course i blew him up, he refused to pay andy!
http://i.imgur.com/qRaJa.jpg |
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
S O L A R I S
8
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Posted - 2012.03.02 05:29:00 -
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Kavez Vek wrote:
Popular L4 mission hubs are going to be where these people are. If the population there is made aware, they still net loss money from the lack of ransoms.
P.S.
Pretty douchy.
First people never learn properly except the hard way; imo it's the human nature. Second even when they shout in local about you and your deeds, you can do your business as usual because it's seems nobody really cares.
P.S.
Maybe it's douchy but also it's really, really funny and like i said before, in the end nobody cares. |
Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc
NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:15:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.
I did exactly the same once it didn't end well for him
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StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective
Cascade Imminent
33
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:37:00 -
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I page 2 sniper'd a binman...He never came back,i even waited extra long.
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
304
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Posted - 2012.03.04 00:00:00 -
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i hope for you that you never run into me.. it will prolly go like this:
40kk
yes/no
if yes:
40kk each
yes/no
any answere = short trip to medical bay 
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Ahrieman
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
82
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Posted - 2012.03.04 00:14:00 -
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I ALWAYS honor ransoms and 1v1's. Ransoms are a great way to make money while pirating. I caught an Incursis the other day in my Rifter, then caught his pod too. He had a full set of +3's. Paid me 25 mil for his pod. Why would I want to screw that up? TBH, I wish people would ransom me if they catch my pod.
Sig tanking is the new black |
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
S O L A R I S
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Posted - 2012.03.04 00:48:00 -
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Ahrieman wrote:I ALWAYS honor ransoms and 1v1's. Ransoms are a great way to make money while pirating. I caught an Incursis the other day in my Rifter, then caught his pod too. He had a full set of +3's. Paid me 25 mil for his pod. Why would I want to screw that up? TBH, I wish people would ransom me if they catch my pod.
You're right, but in hisec you can't ransom twice the same guy or even other guy from his corp because they won't fall again for this stupid trick. Also it's really funny after you dishonor ransoms how mad they become; it's totally worth it to not honor ransoms only for this (not to mention the isk). |
Ahrieman
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
82
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Posted - 2012.03.04 02:58:00 -
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Kazacy wrote:Ahrieman wrote:I ALWAYS honor ransoms and 1v1's. Ransoms are a great way to make money while pirating. I caught an Incursis the other day in my Rifter, then caught his pod too. He had a full set of +3's. Paid me 25 mil for his pod. Why would I want to screw that up? TBH, I wish people would ransom me if they catch my pod. You're right, but in hisec you can't ransom twice the same guy or even other guy from his corp because they won't fall again for this stupid trick. Also it's really funny after you dishonor ransoms how mad they become; it's totally worth it to not honor ransoms only for this (not to mention the isk).
Fall for what stupid trick? Paying a ransom and getting to keep their ship/pod? That would encourage your victim, and his friends, to pay you again in the future. I don't live in high sec, so maybe I don't understand. Perhaps you could explain to me how dishonoring a ransom in high sec is more profitable...
Sig tanking is the new black |
Liam Mirren
305
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Posted - 2012.03.04 13:30:00 -
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Everyone has their own personal ruleset, it's a sandbox afterall. Me I always keep my word, I do as I say and I say as I do. Also, from my experience, honouring ransoms is better long term.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
S O L A R I S
8
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Posted - 2012.03.04 17:58:00 -
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Ahrieman wrote:
Fall for what stupid trick? Paying a ransom and getting to keep their ship/pod? That would encourage your victim, and his friends, to pay you again in the future. I don't live in high sec, so maybe I don't understand. Perhaps you could explain to me how dishonoring a ransom in high sec is more profitable...
It is more profitable because they won't shoot you again so you won't even have the chance to ransom again the guy or his friends/corpmates (btw this is the stupid trick: making the other guy to shoot you first). In short you have the ransom, the killmail and loot.
P.S.
I forgot to mention, i do this not for isk just for fun (it's a game after all, i play the game for fun not for some imaginary pixels), iskies are just a nice bonus. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
427
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Posted - 2012.03.05 08:09:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:i hope for you that you never run into me.. it will prolly go like this: 40kk yes/no if yes: 40kk each yes/no any answere = short trip to medical bay
I normally honour ransoms, and I guess I would consider to pay one (even tho I never been asked), but anyone calling it "kk" (or "mio") I'd just ignore by default.
this is a signature |
seany1212
eXceed Inc.
No Holes Barred
99
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Posted - 2012.03.05 11:26:00 -
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Misanth wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:i hope for you that you never run into me.. it will prolly go like this: 40kk yes/no if yes: 40kk each yes/no any answere = short trip to medical bay
I normally honour ransoms, and I guess I would consider to pay one (even tho I never been asked), but anyone calling it "kk" (or "mio") I'd just ignore by default.
Wouldn't worry about him too much misanth, you generally don't get a chance to ransom in a 10+ man gang  |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts
Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
59
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Posted - 2012.03.05 13:00:00 -
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Not honoring ransoms is just poor piratage  . Every time it happens & goes public the balls fall off 10% more of the high sec herd & makes low secs that much more more bleak.
Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
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