Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time.

Turns out.

Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D

233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh

233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh

I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially.

I can't believe missioners still shoot at ninja salvagers.

I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.

the answer it's easy: when the noobs find out why Concord not shooty, also the same noobs won't fall for the trick (or won't fall again), so basicaly you have no reason (except some stupid and costly "ehonour") to keep isk and release the ship. So as a basic rule don't pay ransoms in hisec and you will be fine.

P.S.
i almost forgot: also when you will ask for ransoms in hisec don't forget to pop the guy after he pays, the reason for this (except isk ofc) is his tears/rage, threats, fanmail and so on

233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh

Popular L4 mission hubs are going to be where these people are. If the population there is made aware, they still net loss money from the lack of ransoms.

P.S.
Pretty douchy.

I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.

I ALWAYS honor ransoms and 1v1's. Ransoms are a great way to make money while pirating. I caught an Incursis the other day in my Rifter, then caught his pod too. He had a full set of +3's. Paid me 25 mil for his pod. Why would I want to screw that up? TBH, I wish people would ransom me if they catch my pod.

You're right, but in hisec you can't ransom twice the same guy or even other guy from his corp because they won't fall again for this stupid trick. Also it's really funny after you dishonor ransoms how mad they become; it's totally worth it to not honor ransoms only for this (not to mention the isk).

Fall for what stupid trick? Paying a ransom and getting to keep their ship/pod? That would encourage your victim, and his friends, to pay you again in the future. I don't live in high sec, so maybe I don't understand. Perhaps you could explain to me how dishonoring a ransom in high sec is more profitable...

i hope for you that you never run into me.. it will prolly go like this:

40kk
yes/no
if yes:
40kk each
yes/no
any answere = short trip to medical bay

Thought I would give the heads up about a couple of pirates who were flying around Tintoh

Amber Thetawaves
Andrew Jackson Jihad

I paid the ransom, as the screenshot demonstrates. You've been warned not to pay. Here is the screenshot along with the killboard:

http://i42.tinypic.com/s658wj.jpg
http://mongsmarauders.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2688

Believe me they shoot the ninja; you must learn how to be very annoying and they will shoot you.

Don't quote me on this last part but if they still insist on being a pest and bumping you repeatedly so you can't warp out I believe it is petitionable in high sec only as harassment as long as you take no aggression timer against the bumper.

You're right, but in hisec you can't ransom twice the same guy or even other guy from his corp because they won't fall again for this stupid trick. Also it's really funny after you dishonor ransoms how mad they become; it's totally worth it to not honor ransoms only for this (not to mention the isk).

Sorry Kazacy, but you sound like a bit of a dou*che, allow me to explain, if you were to honor the ransom most people would probably just pay to keep their stuff (thereupon making it a far more profitable enterprise being a pirate)

But of course you want to make it harder on pirates who are looking to make piracy a more profitable business. I don't pay ransoms myself, because I am well aware if you do you just lose twice. If there was a system wide protocol in place that would guarantee non-aggression then this might change

So pay heed noob pilots of new Eden, *most* pirates will NOT honor your ransoms, because the kind you will most likely run into is an egocentric idi*t like Kazacy.

So pay heed noob pilots of new Eden, *most* pirates will NOT honor your ransoms, because the kind you will most likely run into is an egocentric idi*t like Kazacy.

and ppl like you are the reason i play this game; thx for the tears.

My gang refunded a 1 billion ISK ransom of a pod tonight because someone in gang screwed up and misclicked his gun grouping instead of turning off his point. As much as the full high grade slave set was a nice mail to have we would have preferred the Legion + loot and 200 million ISK a piece but 200 mil each is a small price to pay to retain our reputation.

stuff


Thanks for the typical canned quote K, but honestly expected no better answer , for some reason I think you might be challenged in some way.

Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D