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Conrad Makbure
Phoibe Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:00:00 -
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LOL, I just got Windows 7 a few months ago, wtf! .... |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1109
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:11:00 -
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Fun fact: The replacement of the start menu is excellent. The start menu in Windows 7 is useless, anyway. It's only ever used for the 2 or 3 things you pin at the top, and the search. That's it.
Windows 8 has a nice and shiny live screen where I can: -Fit dozens of shortcuts on one screen instead of a handful -Just start typing to run a search -See all of my news feeds/calendar stuff/social network stuff/emails/weather/etc, constantly updating and near real-time (I'm looking forward to an EVE skill queue) -Big icons to click instead of tiny folders mean my clicks can be more vague, thus faster
There's also the new freakin' epic new task manager, and a ribbon for the file explorer. There's user syncing between all your owned Windows 8 devices, as well as at least ~50% faster booting than W7, in every case.
Even file copying is infinitely better now (You can actually pause! In 2012! What an age we live in!) I can also automatically back up every version of all my files to a network hard-drive, and can easily access all of these previous versions.
It's great for my desktop, and just as good on my tablet. I could play EVE on my tablet, standing up on the train, if I had a USB internet dongle for it. I'll wait until the actual Windows 8 tablet releases at this year's end, though.
/shameless over-enthusiasm |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:00:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy.
Truth.
get 95, get 98, skip ME, get 2000 Pro, skip XP, get vista/7 (same os people), meh on windows 8 (have preview, runs good, dislike UI) |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
46
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:06:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...
This.
Working in the IT field for over 15+ years now and that is how every company I have worked for has handled Windows.
Windows 7 is a great OS and I see no reason to move to the new one just because its a new one.
Personally I would still be using Windows 2000 Pro if I had my choice as that was the Best OS to date. |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
46
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:07:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy. Truth. get 95, get 98, skip ME, get 2000 Pro, skip XP, get vista/7 (same os people), meh on windows 8 (have preview, runs good, dislike UI)
Vista and 7 are not the same OS at all, same file system but not the same OS.
Do not believe me? Do a simple test In Vista do a search for msconfig In Windows 7 do a search for msconfig.
Vista does not have MSconfig a great great tool in the IT world. So your wrong. thanks for playing. |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:11:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Cyrina Manto wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy. Truth. get 95, get 98, skip ME, get 2000 Pro, skip XP, get vista/7 (same os people), meh on windows 8 (have preview, runs good, dislike UI) Vista and 7 are not the same OS at all, same file system but not the same OS. Do not believe me? Do a simple test In Vista do a search for msconfig In Windows 7 do a search for msconfig. Vista does not have MSconfig a great great tool in the IT world. So your wrong. thanks for playing.
ORLY? Get a job dealing with Vista and 7. Msconfig was present in some form or another since what? XP?
Plus, if you need MSConfig to hold your hand for registry editing you do not know enough to gripe about it.
Also, MSConfig does not make an OS. The core structures are the same (kernel, drivers, etc.), Win 7 just had more lenient UAC and a tweaked UI.
Anyway, on topic, EvE runs on anything from Windows 2000 Pro (havent checked since the new launcher though) to Windows 8. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
277
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:20:00 -
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Twulf wrote:
Vista does not have MSconfig a great great tool in the IT world. So your wrong. thanks for playing.
I can say incorrect things while pretending I have a good job too.
For example, "E"s go before "I"s" except after "C", not the other way around. Trust me, I am an English professor at Harvard.
Seriously, I used MSConfig just a few weeks ago on Vista to fix a bug that minimized games automatically. If you are going to try and sound smart at least use an information source other than your ass. |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:28:00 -
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Vista has msconfig for god's sake. Don't look foolish.
Windows 8 is WIndows 7 with a new interface basically. Absolutely no reason to get ti if you have Windows 7 running well. If you are still using XP it might be worth it. |
Vivian Mengloi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:42:00 -
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As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade. |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 23:42:00 -
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Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.
Indeed it is.
Though it does not seem to like my old slow laptop harddrive. The system was hanging alot with 100% disk usage until I moved the swap file to separate HDD's. |
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
66
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Posted - 2012.05.04 16:25:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Fun fact: The replacement of the start menu is excellent. The start menu in Windows 7 is useless, anyway. It's only ever used for the 2 or 3 things you pin at the top, and the search. That's it.
Windows 8 has a nice and shiny live screen where I can: -Fit dozens of shortcuts on one screen instead of a handful -Just start typing to run a search -See all of my news feeds/calendar stuff/social network stuff/emails/weather/etc, constantly updating and near real-time (I'm looking forward to an EVE skill queue) -Big icons to click instead of tiny folders mean my clicks can be more vague, thus faster
There's also the new freakin' epic new task manager, and a ribbon for the file explorer. There's user syncing between all your owned Windows 8 devices, as well as at least ~50% faster booting than W7, in every case.
Even file copying is infinitely better now (You can actually pause! In 2012! What an age we live in!) I can also automatically back up every version of all my files to a network hard-drive, and can easily access all of these previous versions.
It's great for my desktop, and just as good on my tablet. I could play EVE on my tablet, standing up on the train, if I had a USB internet dongle for it. I'll wait until the actual Windows 8 tablet releases at this year's end, though.
/shameless over-enthusiasm
microsoft employee spotted ! |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.05.04 16:33:00 -
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Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.
Hopefully you are right as the benchmarks I use I are pretty much flat with the Consumer Preview.
Better support for newer hardware=drivers. |
Colosus blade
Monkey Attack Squad Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:48:00 -
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Then what to do to not get the artifacts when playing Eve from under 8 to win ATi cards |
Mina Hiragi
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:30:00 -
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Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft
Bring back SkiFree, k, thx.
Minesweeper's for chumps.
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Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:33:00 -
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Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
As someone who handles IT for ~400 small companies, I'd suggest updating your resume.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
305
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Posted - 2012.06.10 06:28:00 -
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I only installed Windows 7 six months ago, so unless W8 offers something exceptional to improve Eve performance on my desk-top pc, I will give it a miss.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. You want fries with that? |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.06.10 07:11:00 -
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Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.
Some free feedback. If it wasn't on the machine, I wasn't using it. Make a gaming OS and I might buy it. |
Callum Jensen
Blue Tridents
0
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Posted - 2012.07.20 10:34:00 -
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I installed the Windows 8 Consumer preview 2 days ago, and everything works great. Or it did!
Now, I can't claim to be a PC expert and understand the deeper elements, but I do know my mouse from my modem!
Last night I noticed a couple of strange anomalies - like when docked in stations my character had no torso - it was completely transparent. Also system crashed on me a few times when flying in space (usually when in warp).
I have a fairly decent graphics card (Geforce 560TI OC) so wouldn't expect it to be too overwhelmed playing EVE. I also downloaded the latest drivers for my card from Geforce.com but this hasnt really helped at all.
I do have to admit that EVE is the only game I've installed and tried to play since putting W8 on. But if it's not going to be stable I'll have to revert to W7.
Have to admit though, in general I am loving W8. I'll definately be buying it when it's launched officially!
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Charlie Jacobson
23
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:12:00 -
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In the first preview version of Windows 8 there was the ability to disable the Metro UI with a simple registry entry. They removed this option, however. Not the best call considering the Metro UI is designed for touch screens. How many of you have touch screens for your desktop PCs? I tried getting used to it, but it was hopelessly awkward to use that **** with a mouse and keyboard.
That being said pretty much everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 8 with very few exceptions. |
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
331
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:16:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade. Some free feedback. If it wasn't on the machine, I wasn't using it. Make a gaming OS and I might buy it.
nice cleavage.
yea, i didnt read this thread, but i saw those boobs. |
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DarkAegix
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1154
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:44:00 -
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Charlie Jacobson wrote:In the first preview version of Windows 8 there was the ability to disable the Metro UI with a simple registry entry. They removed this option, however. Not the best call considering the Metro UI is designed for touch screens. How many of you have touch screens for your desktop PCs? I tried getting used to it, but it was hopelessly awkward to use that **** with a mouse and keyboard.
That being said pretty much everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 8 with very few exceptions. The Metro UI can still be disabled, if you really want it to be. It takes getting used to, but it is better.
The Start menu is outdated. People don't use it to navigate through the folders, any more, because of the instantaneous search functionality. Just type what you want and press enter. Metro, however, has updating live tiles, retains the instant search, can fit more shortcuts on a screen, and each shortcut is easier to click. Use of the Start menu has diminished across all areas. Just look at the pretty tables and graphs in this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/03/evolving-the-start-menu.aspx
Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro. Turning off your computer takes one extra second of clicking in Metro, and that's about it. I forgive that because of the something like 2x faster boot times across every single situation, though. Speaking of which, Windows 8 just has improvements in every single area of the operating system. You can pause file copy and delete jobs now. Something I've never noticed was lacking from Windows 7. Things like that. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:49:00 -
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Windows 8 is Windows 7 with an unbelievably stupid desktop front end on it. I played with it at work for a hour or so and found it to be fantastically crap.
I'm sticking with Windows 7 for now. |
Slutty Underwear
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:09:00 -
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It always makes me giggle when folks go on about boot times. Who really cares if it takes an extra 10 seconds to boot your PC? I am more than happy for my 2 minute boot time. Because I know 100% my Pc is going too work 100% for the next 2 weeks. Boot time means nothing folks. Stability is what counts. |
Anubis Star
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:32:00 -
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eve works fine, in Fact everything works a bit faster than on win7. But that is the only benefit of win8, dual screen metro apps is horror as much as every other ****** inovation they implemented. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
218
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:39:00 -
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100 days left to come up with a believable explanation for Metro.....
Tiles-« 8 will kill MS and if that doesn't do it then Orifice 2013 surely will.
MS posted their first ever quarterly loss yesterday. It won't be their last.... |
DarkAegix
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1154
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:43:00 -
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Slutty Underwear wrote:It always makes me giggle when folks go on about boot times. Who really cares if it takes an extra 10 seconds to boot your PC? I am more than happy for my 2 minute boot time. Because I know 100% my Pc is going too work 100% for the next 2 weeks. Boot time means nothing folks. Stability is what counts. Then you'll be interested to know that a few months ago Microsoft released a report showing a strong correlation between total PC uptime and crashes. You do need to shut down every now and then. Then you'll need to boot.
Much more importantly, however, boot always counts for portable devices. You can never have enough battery life for your notebook, and leaving it on standby for a day is a good way cut the life down. I'm happy with my 8 second boot time.
Also, Metro was mathematically proven to be awesome, using heatmaps, percentages, and lots of charts Funnily enough, I find that more experienced PC users are accepting Metro, rather than remaining afraid of change, as it often the case. The young, instant gratification, short attention span folks seem to be the ones unwilling to learn. The same fuss actually happened when the start menu was introduced. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8655
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:49:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro. It offers the benefit of never blobbing up your screen with hideous swaths of coloured blotches when all you want to do is start a program. Metro is outdated by the same functionality that makes the Start menu outdated.
GǪif it could be reduced to a Quicksllver/Alfred/Spotlight-like search field that pops up down in the corner, then it would be awesome. Taking over the screen with unrelated and irrelevant nonsense never is. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
44
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:59:00 -
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People can have nerd-rage pissing contests all they want but from a consumer standpoint never buy an operating system when it comes out. Wait until most of the problems are solved and patched until updating from your current (and more stable) OS. |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
25
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Posted - 2012.07.20 14:06:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...
This 98, XP, W7....W10 |
Tyraeil Starblade
Ronin Wing
13
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Posted - 2012.07.20 14:33:00 -
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Real men write their own DX and win32 wrappers around Eve to run in Linux. What's Windows? |
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