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Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
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Posted - 2012.03.01 16:47:00 -
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Hey,
Microsoft released the consumer preview of Windows 8 today, has anyone installed it yet and tried to play Eve on it ?
I'm not sure I'll go through the trouble of installing it if I can't play Eve on it  |
Jonah Gravenstein
52
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Posted - 2012.03.01 16:56:00 -
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I just ran the compatibility report for Win8, it says Eve will run fine, in fact the only thing I have that isn't usable is MS security essentials and I'll have to reinstall my amd drivers. I'm going to be running it in a VM (and hopefully not get banned :D) with Eve and a few other games to test it, thankfully VMware provides SM3 "support"
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction
Gears Confederation
28
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Posted - 2012.03.01 16:58:00 -
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I used the developer edition a few months ago and it worked. So i guess it should work now.
Dude, where is my Charon? |
Blue Harrier
26
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:53:00 -
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Installed 8 on my backup machine yesterday and tried Eve this afternoon and both TQ and SiSi clients work as expected.
Just had to remember to run the dxsetup.exe in the \bin folder to update the required files otherwise the client would start and then drop to the taskbar without running. |
Arakazzi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:55:00 -
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How does the computer perform compared to W7? |
Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
39
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Posted - 2012.03.01 18:18:00 -
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Thanks, I guess I'll start the download tonight then
Have you seen any performance improvements (or degradation) ? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
2733
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Posted - 2012.03.01 18:35:00 -
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Works fine for me.
/c
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Blue Harrier
27
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Posted - 2012.03.01 19:47:00 -
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To those who asked, I was running 8 on my backup machine, a dual core Athlon with an Nvidea 8800 gpu so nothing special.
As far as I could tell everything ran exactly the same as under Windows 7 and from first observations Windows 8 on a PC, is 7 with a pretty face. I ran 8 in GÇÿdesktop modeGÇÖ as the GÇÿtiled modeGÇÖ doesnGÇÖt work very well on the desktop unless you have a touch screen.
Using the all new Task Manager in advanced mode I noted both clients used about the same amount of CPU percentage and memory stayed at around 1.6 out of 2 Gig.
FPS in captains quarters with interiors set to medium was 30 in the quarters and capped at 60 on the balcony.
Flying in space capped at 60 most of the time with setting on high, no shadows, and post processing on low and no AA.
So nothing really changed it just worked. Hope that answers your questions?
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
162
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Posted - 2012.03.01 20:50:00 -
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Given that CCP is a quite intensive Microsoft shop one could assume that one, two or something close to everyone on the roll has been able to try win8 for quite a while, and probably even a tad earlier than most public tests.
I think one can be assured that EvE will work as expected in Win8.
So it will take 3 patches and reset your UI at 2 times ;)
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Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2012.03.01 21:05:00 -
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Do you have to pay for windowse poop?
No more pay Windowse, not since 98... turdy turdy
Why buys Microsoft! Downloadz, playz, forgets |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:13:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Do you have to pay for windowse poop?
No more pay Windowse, not since 98... turdy turdy
Why buys Microsoft! Downloadz, playz, forgets
What possibly possessed you to post this illiterate drivel? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
356
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:27:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Opertone wrote:Do you have to pay for windowse poop?
No more pay Windowse, not since 98... turdy turdy
Why buys Microsoft! Downloadz, playz, forgets What possibly possessed you to post this illiterate drivel?
For rEALZ
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM !
God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved.
-á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
391
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:39:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Opertone wrote:Do you have to pay for windowse poop?
No more pay Windowse, not since 98... turdy turdy
Why buys Microsoft! Downloadz, playz, forgets What possibly possessed you to post this illiterate drivel? For rEALZ
fo sho.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Jonah Gravenstein
53
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Posted - 2012.03.02 01:17:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Do you have to pay for windowse poop?
No more pay Windowse, not since 98... turdy turdy
Why buys Microsoft! Downloadz, playz, forgets
Not sure if win98 or Linux(doubtful) or pirate?
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
interSTELLA555
The Milkmen
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:53:00 -
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I am haveing serious issues, my graphics card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, when I open the screen the graphics are fine for a few seconds, afterwards, the screen is suffers from significant large triangles in the middle of the graphical display. It seems like a rendering error, probably because Win 8 is not offically supported. I will upload screens in a bit, also EvE worked fine in Win 7 on the same machine... I shouldn't have freakin updated ..... grr.... |
D3F4ULT
51
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:56:00 -
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I watched a preview on youtube, and I didn't like how the tiled screen works with Dual Screens. I will be skipping this next Windows platform.
Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Spurty
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
247
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:58:00 -
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My experiences with windows 8 are that it's not stable period.
Everything runs, but not for as long as you would want. Plenty of BSoD episodes witnessed.
Recommend nvidia over AMD cards always. Drivers are horrendous for AMD
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
interSTELLA555
The Milkmen
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:03:00 -
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http://imgur.com/tYMzQ
http://imgur.com/SasWy |
interSTELLA555
The Milkmen
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:04:00 -
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http://imgur.com/SasWy
http://imgur.com/jIIPX
sorry... i can get more ..too.. like wtf thou |
Snooood
3
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:11:00 -
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Windows is always backwards compatible, if it weren't I doubt they would be releasing new versions all the time |
Flakey Foont
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
113
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:00:00 -
[21] - Quote
Works fine. Windows 8 is just Win 7 with tablet and phone functionality. Certainly not worth buying for a laptop or desktop. Same kernel. |
Barakach
R-ISK
Shadow Operations.
65
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:39:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:Works fine. Windows 8 is just Win 7 with tablet and phone functionality. Certainly not worth buying for a laptop or desktop. Same kernel.
Just better IO, manageability, network performance, virtualization, memory usage, etc etc... All of the fun stuff that is new and exciting is behind the scenes. |
Flakey Foont
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
114
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:16:00 -
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I saw absolutely no improvement in networking, virtualization or memory usage in my benchmarks. But hey if you say so. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto.
Veto Corp
494
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:17:00 -
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Why do you want Windows 8?
Dominique Vasilkovsky
Mashie Saldana
Monica Foulkes |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:21:00 -
[25] - Quote
Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:24:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...
Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy. |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:28:00 -
[27] - Quote
Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy.
Oh really?  |
Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.05.02 11:03:00 -
[28] - Quote
Windows iPad 8 looks like it really sucks. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
62
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Posted - 2012.05.02 23:05:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy. Oh really?
i think you got yaself a lover/stalker there fannie mae,looks like it wants ya all to itself.  |
Belshazzar Babylon
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:29:00 -
[30] - Quote
Windows 8 just looks gross.
I know helpful to the conversation. |
Conrad Makbure
Phoibe Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:00:00 -
[31] - Quote
LOL, I just got Windows 7 a few months ago, wtf! .... |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1109
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:11:00 -
[32] - Quote
Fun fact: The replacement of the start menu is excellent.
The start menu in Windows 7 is useless, anyway. It's only ever used for the 2 or 3 things you pin at the top, and the search. That's it.
Windows 8 has a nice and shiny live screen where I can:
-Fit dozens of shortcuts on one screen instead of a handful
-Just start typing to run a search
-See all of my news feeds/calendar stuff/social network stuff/emails/weather/etc, constantly updating and near real-time (I'm looking forward to an EVE skill queue)
-Big icons to click instead of tiny folders mean my clicks can be more vague, thus faster
There's also the new freakin' epic new task manager, and a ribbon for the file explorer. There's user syncing between all your owned Windows 8 devices, as well as at least ~50% faster booting than W7, in every case.
Even file copying is infinitely better now (You can actually pause! In 2012! What an age we live in!)
I can also automatically back up every version of all my files to a network hard-drive, and can easily access all of these previous versions.
It's great for my desktop, and just as good on my tablet. I could play EVE on my tablet, standing up on the train, if I had a USB internet dongle for it. I'll wait until the actual Windows 8 tablet releases at this year's end, though.
/shameless over-enthusiasm |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden
The Laughing Men
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:00:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy.
Truth.
get 95, get 98, skip ME, get 2000 Pro, skip XP, get vista/7 (same os people), meh on windows 8 (have preview, runs good, dislike UI) |
Twulf
The Konvergent League
Sanctuary Pact
46
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:06:00 -
[34] - Quote
Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...
This.
Working in the IT field for over 15+ years now and that is how every company I have worked for has handled Windows.
Windows 7 is a great OS and I see no reason to move to the new one just because its a new one.
Personally I would still be using Windows 2000 Pro if I had my choice as that was the Best OS to date. |
Twulf
The Konvergent League
Sanctuary Pact
46
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:07:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy. Truth. get 95, get 98, skip ME, get 2000 Pro, skip XP, get vista/7 (same os people), meh on windows 8 (have preview, runs good, dislike UI)
Vista and 7 are not the same OS at all, same file system but not the same OS.
Do not believe me? Do a simple test
In Vista do a search for msconfig
In Windows 7 do a search for msconfig.
Vista does not have MSconfig a great great tool in the IT world. So your wrong. thanks for playing. |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden
The Laughing Men
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:11:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Cyrina Manto wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... Rule of thumb: Ignore this guy. Truth. get 95, get 98, skip ME, get 2000 Pro, skip XP, get vista/7 (same os people), meh on windows 8 (have preview, runs good, dislike UI) Vista and 7 are not the same OS at all, same file system but not the same OS. Do not believe me? Do a simple test In Vista do a search for msconfig In Windows 7 do a search for msconfig. Vista does not have MSconfig a great great tool in the IT world. So your wrong. thanks for playing.
ORLY? Get a job dealing with Vista and 7. Msconfig was present in some form or another since what? XP?
Plus, if you need MSConfig to hold your hand for registry editing you do not know enough to gripe about it.
Also, MSConfig does not make an OS. The core structures are the same (kernel, drivers, etc.), Win 7 just had more lenient UAC and a tweaked UI.
Anyway, on topic, EvE runs on anything from Windows 2000 Pro (havent checked since the new launcher though) to Windows 8. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
277
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:20:00 -
[37] - Quote
Twulf wrote:
Vista does not have MSconfig a great great tool in the IT world. So your wrong. thanks for playing.
I can say incorrect things while pretending I have a good job too.
For example, "E"s go before "I"s" except after "C", not the other way around. Trust me, I am an English professor at Harvard.
Seriously, I used MSConfig just a few weeks ago on Vista to fix a bug that minimized games automatically. If you are going to try and sound smart at least use an information source other than your ass. |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:28:00 -
[38] - Quote
Vista has msconfig for god's sake. Don't look foolish.
Windows 8 is WIndows 7 with a new interface basically. Absolutely no reason to get ti if you have Windows 7 running well. If you are still using XP it might be worth it. |
Vivian Mengloi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:42:00 -
[39] - Quote
As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade. |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden
The Laughing Men
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 23:42:00 -
[40] - Quote
Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.
Indeed it is.
Though it does not seem to like my old slow laptop harddrive. The system was hanging alot with 100% disk usage until I moved the swap file to separate HDD's. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
66
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Posted - 2012.05.04 16:25:00 -
[41] - Quote
DarkAegix wrote:Fun fact: The replacement of the start menu is excellent.
The start menu in Windows 7 is useless, anyway. It's only ever used for the 2 or 3 things you pin at the top, and the search. That's it.
Windows 8 has a nice and shiny live screen where I can:
-Fit dozens of shortcuts on one screen instead of a handful
-Just start typing to run a search
-See all of my news feeds/calendar stuff/social network stuff/emails/weather/etc, constantly updating and near real-time (I'm looking forward to an EVE skill queue)
-Big icons to click instead of tiny folders mean my clicks can be more vague, thus faster
There's also the new freakin' epic new task manager, and a ribbon for the file explorer. There's user syncing between all your owned Windows 8 devices, as well as at least ~50% faster booting than W7, in every case.
Even file copying is infinitely better now (You can actually pause! In 2012! What an age we live in!)
I can also automatically back up every version of all my files to a network hard-drive, and can easily access all of these previous versions.
It's great for my desktop, and just as good on my tablet. I could play EVE on my tablet, standing up on the train, if I had a USB internet dongle for it. I'll wait until the actual Windows 8 tablet releases at this year's end, though.
/shameless over-enthusiasm
microsoft employee spotted !  |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.05.04 16:33:00 -
[42] - Quote
Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.
Hopefully you are right as the benchmarks I use I are pretty much flat with the Consumer Preview.
Better support for newer hardware=drivers. |
Colosus blade
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 04:48:00 -
[43] - Quote
Then what to do to not get the artifacts when playing Eve from under 8 to win ATi cards |
Mina Hiragi
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:30:00 -
[44] - Quote
Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft
Bring back SkiFree, k, thx.
Minesweeper's for chumps.
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Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:33:00 -
[45] - Quote
Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
As someone who handles IT for ~400 small companies, I'd suggest updating your resume.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
305
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Posted - 2012.06.10 06:28:00 -
[46] - Quote
I only installed Windows 7 six months ago, so unless W8 offers something exceptional to improve Eve performance on my desk-top pc, I will give it a miss.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
You want fries with that? |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.06.10 07:11:00 -
[47] - Quote
Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade.
Some free feedback. If it wasn't on the machine, I wasn't using it. Make a gaming OS and I might buy it. |
Callum Jensen
Blue Tridents
0
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Posted - 2012.07.20 10:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
I installed the Windows 8 Consumer preview 2 days ago, and everything works great. Or it did!
Now, I can't claim to be a PC expert and understand the deeper elements, but I do know my mouse from my modem!
Last night I noticed a couple of strange anomalies - like when docked in stations my character had no torso - it was completely transparent. Also system crashed on me a few times when flying in space (usually when in warp).
I have a fairly decent graphics card (Geforce 560TI OC) so wouldn't expect it to be too overwhelmed playing EVE. I also downloaded the latest drivers for my card from Geforce.com but this hasnt really helped at all.
I do have to admit that EVE is the only game I've installed and tried to play since putting W8 on. But if it's not going to be stable I'll have to revert to W7.
Have to admit though, in general I am loving W8. I'll definately be buying it when it's launched officially!
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Charlie Jacobson
23
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:12:00 -
[49] - Quote
In the first preview version of Windows 8 there was the ability to disable the Metro UI with a simple registry entry. They removed this option, however. Not the best call considering the Metro UI is designed for touch screens. How many of you have touch screens for your desktop PCs? I tried getting used to it, but it was hopelessly awkward to use that **** with a mouse and keyboard.
That being said pretty much everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 8 with very few exceptions. |
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
331
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:16:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sisohiv wrote:Vivian Mengloi wrote:As someone who works at Microsoft, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
Windows 8 actually does quite a few things different. The introduction to Metro is just the tip of the iceberg, and really one of the few visible changes. Most of what has really changed is under the hood in the form of memory handling improvements, file operation efficiency, and better support for newer hardware.
Once the release preview goes live, try benchmarking a computer using newer hardware on Windows 8, then try it in Windows 7. It's going to be significant enough to warrant the upgrade. Some free feedback. If it wasn't on the machine, I wasn't using it. Make a gaming OS and I might buy it.
nice cleavage.
yea, i didnt read this thread, but i saw those boobs. |
DarkAegix
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1154
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:44:00 -
[51] - Quote
Charlie Jacobson wrote:In the first preview version of Windows 8 there was the ability to disable the Metro UI with a simple registry entry. They removed this option, however. Not the best call considering the Metro UI is designed for touch screens. How many of you have touch screens for your desktop PCs? I tried getting used to it, but it was hopelessly awkward to use that **** with a mouse and keyboard.
That being said pretty much everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 8 with very few exceptions.
The Metro UI can still be disabled, if you really want it to be. It takes getting used to, but it is better.
The Start menu is outdated. People don't use it to navigate through the folders, any more, because of the instantaneous search functionality. Just type what you want and press enter. Metro, however, has updating live tiles, retains the instant search, can fit more shortcuts on a screen, and each shortcut is easier to click. Use of the Start menu has diminished across all areas. Just look at the pretty tables and graphs in this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/03/evolving-the-start-menu.aspx
Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro. Turning off your computer takes one extra second of clicking in Metro, and that's about it. I forgive that because of the something like 2x faster boot times across every single situation, though. Speaking of which, Windows 8 just has improvements in every single area of the operating system. You can pause file copy and delete jobs now. Something I've never noticed was lacking from Windows 7. Things like that. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:49:00 -
[52] - Quote
Windows 8 is Windows 7 with an unbelievably stupid desktop front end on it. I played with it at work for a hour or so and found it to be fantastically crap.
I'm sticking with Windows 7 for now. |
Slutty Underwear
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:09:00 -
[53] - Quote
It always makes me giggle when folks go on about boot times. Who really cares if it takes an extra 10 seconds to boot your PC? I am more than happy for my 2 minute boot time. Because I know 100% my Pc is going too work 100% for the next 2 weeks. Boot time means nothing folks. Stability is what counts.  |
Anubis Star
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:32:00 -
[54] - Quote
eve works fine, in Fact everything works a bit faster than on win7. But that is the only benefit of win8, dual screen metro apps is horror as much as every other ****** inovation they implemented. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
218
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:39:00 -
[55] - Quote
100 days left to come up with a believable explanation for Metro.....
Tiles-« 8 will kill MS and if that doesn't do it then Orifice 2013 surely will.
MS posted their first ever quarterly loss yesterday. It won't be their last.... |
DarkAegix
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1154
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:43:00 -
[56] - Quote
Slutty Underwear wrote:It always makes me giggle when folks go on about boot times. Who really cares if it takes an extra 10 seconds to boot your PC? I am more than happy for my 2 minute boot time. Because I know 100% my Pc is going too work 100% for the next 2 weeks. Boot time means nothing folks. Stability is what counts.
Then you'll be interested to know that a few months ago Microsoft released a report showing a strong correlation between total PC uptime and crashes. You do need to shut down every now and then. Then you'll need to boot.
Much more importantly, however, boot always counts for portable devices.
You can never have enough battery life for your notebook, and leaving it on standby for a day is a good way cut the life down. I'm happy with my 8 second boot time.
Also, Metro was mathematically proven to be awesome, using heatmaps, percentages, and lots of charts
Funnily enough, I find that more experienced PC users are accepting Metro, rather than remaining afraid of change, as it often the case. The young, instant gratification, short attention span folks seem to be the ones unwilling to learn. The same fuss actually happened when the start menu was introduced. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8655
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:49:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro. It offers the benefit of never blobbing up your screen with hideous swaths of coloured blotches when all you want to do is start a program. Metro is outdated by the same functionality that makes the Start menu outdated.
GǪif it could be reduced to a Quicksllver/Alfred/Spotlight-like search field that pops up down in the corner, then it would be awesome. Taking over the screen with unrelated and irrelevant nonsense never is.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
44
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:59:00 -
[58] - Quote
People can have nerd-rage pissing contests all they want but from a consumer standpoint never buy an operating system when it comes out. Wait until most of the problems are solved and patched until updating from your current (and more stable) OS. |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Of Mordor
25
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Posted - 2012.07.20 14:06:00 -
[59] - Quote
Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95...
This 98, XP, W7....W10 |
Tyraeil Starblade
Ronin Wing
13
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Posted - 2012.07.20 14:33:00 -
[60] - Quote
Real men write their own DX and win32 wrappers around Eve to run in Linux. What's Windows? |
Britilio Sandaris
Boeing Industries
13
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:48:00 -
[61] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I just ran the compatibility report for Win8, it says Eve will run fine, in fact the only thing I have that isn't usable is MS security essentials... "
MS Security Essentials is rolled into Windows 8. You don't have to install it, it's just there. (or more to the point, it's in windows defender)
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-security/how-do-i-keep-windows-8-release-preview-secure/acd2bfea-ed36-401e-9050-f2fe4212ecf3 |
Charlie Jacobson
23
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:50:00 -
[62] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Anyway, the Start menu offers no real benefits over Metro. It offers the benefit of never blobbing up your screen with hideous swaths of coloured blotches when all you want to do is start a program. Metro is outdated by the same functionality that makes the Start menu outdated. GǪif it could be reduced to a Quicksllver/Alfred/Spotlight-like search field that pops up down in the corner, then it would be awesome. Taking over the screen with unrelated and irrelevant nonsense never is.
My thoughts exactly! I admit that I only use the start menu for instant searching, but it's convenient because it doesn't cover my entire screen while I use it. Those "smart" tiles in Metro showed only completely irrelevant garbage like internet explorer, a weather report, and every other program I never use. |
doogymoogy
Exanimo Inc
Anger Management.
2
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
interSTELLA555 wrote:I am haveing serious issues, my graphics card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, when I open the screen the graphics are fine for a few seconds, afterwards, the screen is suffers from significant large triangles in the middle of the graphical display. It seems like a rendering error, probably because Win 8 is not offically supported. I will upload screens in a bit, also EvE worked fine in Win 7 on the same machine... I shouldn't have freakin updated ..... grr....
Hey I wonder if you were ever able to fix this issue as I have just experienced the same thing with my secondary computer... |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
254
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:47:00 -
[64] - Quote
Hopefully I can skip win8, like I did with Vista and ME
New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |
HxChippiewill
Shaula Nasl Kaitain JSC
Aerodyne Collective
1
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
Merovee wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Rule of thumb, always skip every other Windows OS. Get xp, skip vista, get w7, skip w8 and so forth, it has worked since Windows 95... This 98, XP, W7....W10
Actually there's 2000 and ME between 98 and XP and both of those were terrible. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
4572
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:02:00 -
[66] - Quote
I didn't like Win8 one bit. And the start menu is really... annoying.
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Denidil
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
481
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:29:00 -
[67] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I didn't like Win8 one bit. And the start menu is really... annoying.
there are a lot of great improvements in the internals, all hidden by a ****** ass exterior ("Modern" UI)
If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Fillingkillboards
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:24:00 -
[68] - Quote
Denidil wrote:Chribba wrote:I didn't like Win8 one bit. And the start menu is really... annoying. there are a lot of great improvements in the internals, all hidden by a ****** ass exterior ("Modern" UI)
There are at least 3 ways to turn off that pesky metro UI. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
4583
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Posted - 2012.08.20 18:32:00 -
[69] - Quote
Except it's harder in the consumer preview as they removed the hacks that the developer had... Sure there's the classic ui mod but that's not really disabling it since it's just an overlay.
/c
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9204
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Posted - 2012.08.20 18:38:00 -
[70] - Quote
HxChippiewill wrote:Actually there's 2000 and ME between 98 and XP and both of those were terrible. Win2k was awesome.
Its only problem was that developers were not ready for it and that they tried to program for it like they had for Win98, which the OS simply didn't allow. Well-made software ran like a dream on 2k; incompetently-made software crashed immediately. Its poor reputation pretty much entirely stems from a lot of games being done by bumbling fools and thus falling into the latter category.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Fillingkillboards
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:57:00 -
[71] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Except it's harder in the consumer preview as they removed the hacks that the developer had... Sure there's the classic ui mod but that's not really disabling it since it's just an overlay.
/c
Well that sucks. Hopefully they'll change it back in the final version. |
Lambda Meissa
Just Popped Out For Milk
0
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:31:00 -
[72] - Quote
Im running windows 8 release final now. It's running eve superbly.
It's not worth skipping the OS, disk access and network speed are greatly improved. It's been written from ground up with speed in mind. Very happy with it. Went from windows 7 pro to windows 8 pro if your interested. |
Renturu
Tribal Spirit
213
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Posted - 2012.08.21 07:53:00 -
[73] - Quote
Contemplating upgrading.. I know, running Vista Blunder...*Bows head in shame.
I cloned my drive (Upgraded to a larger one). wonder if I can install the review version and test it out without messing up my current OS/installs, etc.,..?
Edit: To clarify; I want to install on the old HDD and switch to Win 8 without over-writing my current OS on my main drive.
If EvE WiS is Space Barbie, then I'm built like a Ken Doll:
Nothin' but 14 inches of T'aint;
Smooth, from front to butt!!! |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1873
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:16:00 -
[74] - Quote
Denidil wrote:Chribba wrote:I didn't like Win8 one bit. And the start menu is really... annoying. there are a lot of great improvements in the internals, all hidden by a ****** ass exterior ("Modern" UI)
Did they hire CCP to design their new UI?
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1714
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:21:00 -
[75] - Quote
Pay attention people! Pro tip for you all!
Skip Windows 8.
Thats it. Stick with Windows 7. Microsoft is following their trend of "Good OS, Bad OS". XP was good, Vista Sucked, 7 is good, 8 sucks, 9 will be good, 10 will suck...and so on. It has been this way from the beginning.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Radius Prime
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:43:00 -
[76] - Quote
Hope windows 8 uses a bit more of my hardware. Wonder why an enthousiast should keep buying new hardware if none of the available software uses it. Stupid consoles wrecked the gaming world. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:51:00 -
[77] - Quote
Sam Bowein wrote:Hey, Microsoft released the consumer preview of Windows 8 today, has anyone installed it yet and tried to play Eve on it ? I'm not sure I'll go through the trouble of installing it if I can't play Eve on it
Tiles 2012Gäó runs Eve fine. In fact it runs Eve better than Windows 7 because all of the Aero interface is gone and it only draws rectangles on the UI.
Whether you want to use Tiles 2012Gäó is an entirely different matter  |
Titus R
Exhumer Industries
Darkmatter Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.08.24 06:42:00 -
[78] - Quote
I've just installed the Windows 8 Pro version on a backup Harddrive and i've noticed a couple things... Unsettling.
1: My CPU is running at a higher percentage and is hotter now. But not by a little by a lot... Almost 15 Degree's Celcius.
2: If i even attempt to run the usual number of clients, i hit 80c really quickly.
3: I'm sure it's just patch glitches and non-support of Windows 8 officially, but the interface is "flashing" on and off quickly while in space, and disappearing completely at times.
Based on the above, i'm going to have to continue to use my Windows 7 Installation to keep temperatures down primarily. The new features are neat, but nothing a few minor gadget's can't do.
Desktop Specs:
120GB SSD BOOT
2TB Storage
3.2 Ghz Quad Core
8Gb Ram 9-9-9-27 Latency
2GB 570 GTX Nvidia
1600x900 Resoltuion (x2 for two monitors) |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1881
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Posted - 2012.08.24 06:45:00 -
[79] - Quote
Titus R wrote:
Based on the above, i'm going to have to continue to use my Windows 7 Installation to keep temperatures down primarily. The new features are neat, but nothing a few minor gadget's can't do.
They do say Windows 8 is "hot" after all.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Halcyon Ingenium
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
172
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Posted - 2012.08.24 07:48:00 -
[80] - Quote
By what I've heard Windows 8 is horrible and shouldn't be used by anyone, EVE Player or not.
They say that in learning the game Go, it is best to lose your first 50 games as soon as possible. This is because Go is complex, and the only way you will start to get an idea of strategy and play is by first sucking and failing as hard as you can. So...In EVE, it is best to get your first 50 deaths by combat as soon as possible. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1722
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:07:00 -
[81] - Quote
I tested Windows 8 on my PC over the weekend. All I can say is this...
My PC is neither a cell phone or a tablet. I will not re-install this crap on my PC nor will I ever install any future version of Windows that looks or works anything remotely like this pile of steaming crap. If I have to I will go back to using Linux and running everything within shells of other OS's.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
veritas primus
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.08.27 14:05:00 -
[82] - Quote
Windows 7 is pretty darn solid and will be supported for the next decade.
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Ishihiro tanaka
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:34:00 -
[83] - Quote
At first glance, windows 8 may seem like a nice improvement, just as win 3 did when we all migrated from Dos to a GUI.
However, the windows app store will not allow PEGI rated games at all, nor games containing profanity or otherwise insulting apps, just look at the terms of use for developers.
Expect the desktop version to fade to history once windows 8 hit, just as MS-DOS did back in the nineties and as such, if MS doesn't change its terms, expect EVE to not make it in the windows store.
An interesting read about this can be found here:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/179420/the_next_twenty_years_what_.php?page=1 |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
160
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:57:00 -
[84] - Quote
win7 is only a few years old so no point changing it for new if your happy with it  |
Tear Miner
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
Win8.
DO NOT WANT. |
Rebel Heart
RBB14
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 12:02:00 -
[86] - Quote
C'mon dudes, Start supporting this system please. Lost few bil ship due to Eve crash!!
I hate you! |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2012.12.05 12:10:00 -
[87] - Quote
Rebel Heart wrote:C'mon dudes, Start supporting this system please. Lost few bil ship due to Eve crash!!
I hate you!
Not EVE's fault... It runs smoother for me.
CTD's have completely disapeared... |
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