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Antikas Sourr
Caldari FACTION Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 22:51:00 -
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Does anyone know the cargo sizes of all the largest industrials with the race industrial skill trained to 5 and with T2 expanded cargo holds? I'm currently trying to make a decision on future training. I do know for a fact that the Iteron V is the largest one, but I also look at what transport ships, blockade runners, and freighters are available. I'm just trying to make a decision and the feedback and input would be very helpful.
(Note - What I mean by largest industrial is either the Mammoth, Iteron Mk V, Badger Mk II, and the Bestower.) _______________
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Antikas Sourr Does anyone know the cargo sizes of all the largest industrials with the race industrial skill trained to 5 and with T2 expanded cargo holds? I'm currently trying to make a decision on future training. I do know for a fact that the Iteron V is the largest one, but I also look at what transport ships, blockade runners, and freighters are available. I'm just trying to make a decision and the feedback and input would be very helpful.
(Note - What I mean by largest industrial is either the Mammoth, Iteron Mk V, Badger Mk II, and the Bestower.)
When it comes to freighter. Either will work.
T1 industrials and the Iteron V has by far the largest cargohold, followed by the Mammoth, Bestower and Badger MkII (in that order).
T2 and we have the Prorator (amarr) and Prowler (minmatar) as the top of the line blockade runners. The Viator is decent, but the Crane is kind of sucky since it doesn't have the PG to fit an MWD. As for Deep space transports the Impel is the one that can carry the most stuff, the Bustard is probably the best one if you want to fly it with a bit of tank (excellent kinetic/thermal resists and the largest shield. Fit an EM hardener, RCUII, LSEII, MWD and a DCII and you're good to go.) and the Mastodon and Occator are sort of...meh (the Mastodon has a particulary weak capacitor and the Occator suffers, like all the Gallente transports, from not being based on the Iteron MkV).
The only thing I really recommend? Generally you should stay away from Caldari Industrials/transports. The Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar all have their strong and weak points. Amarr has one of the worst T1s, but some of the best T2 (if not THE best). The Minmatar has a quality T1 transport and a superb blockade runner. The Gallente has the largest cargohold of all, even if its T2 transports aren't all that. A Cargo-rigged Iteron V carries the most cargo of all ships, barring freighters. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary. |

Lorz0r
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:30:00 -
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setup correctly the viator is unbelievably hard to catch. that **** warps as fast as some interceptors
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Hoshi
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:35:00 -
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5 min job in EFT, no rigs as they will have the same effect on all.
Iteron Mark V (G): 25.270 m3 Bestower (A): 15.856 m3 Mammoth (M): 18.581 m3 Badger Mark II (C): 13.602 m3
But once you have level 5 and get access to t2 haulers there is little reason to fly t1 anymore.
So here are the t2 deepspace haulers. Impel (A): 27.387 m3 Occator (G): 26.850 m3 Bustard (C): 23.165 m3 Mastodon (M): 22.112 m3
And finally freighters: Charon (C): 981.250 m3 Obelisk (G): 937.500 m3 Providence (A): 918.750 m3 Fenrir (M): 900.000 m3
But there are other stuff that matters than size. Bustard and Mastodon can for example tank very well while still carrying the full amount while Impel and Occator have to give up some cargo space to get to the same level. And if you don't think tank is important I suggest you go and read up a bit on the subject of suicide ganking.
In the end it doesn't really matter that much once you get to t2 haulers and freighters. All races are more or less equally good. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 27/04/2008 23:38:28 Edited by: Ralara on 27/04/2008 23:37:05
Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel A Cargo-rigged Iteron V carries the most cargo of all ships, barring freighters.
Maybe I'm being dumb here, but a tech 2 rigged iteron 5 holds 29,112m3, but my Bustard holds over 30,000, and that's with tech 1 rigs...
EDIT: I am being dumb, the Iteron 5 can, of course, have 3 rigs 
EDIT 2: And also, it might help EFT if I put my character as having Gallente Industrial 5... this places the Iteron 5 at 41,848m3 -- Ralara / Ralarina
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi 5 min job in EFT, no rigs as they will have the same effect on all.
Iteron Mark V (G): 25.270 m3 Bestower (A): 15.856 m3 Mammoth (M): 18.581 m3 Badger Mark II (C): 13.602 m3
But once you have level 5 and get access to t2 haulers there is little reason to fly t1 anymore.
So here are the t2 deepspace haulers. Impel (A): 27.387 m3 Occator (G): 26.850 m3 Bustard (C): 23.165 m3 Mastodon (M): 22.112 m3
And finally freighters: Charon (C): 981.250 m3 Obelisk (G): 937.500 m3 Providence (A): 918.750 m3 Fenrir (M): 900.000 m3
But there are other stuff that matters than size. Bustard and Mastodon can for example tank very well while still carrying the full amount while Impel and Occator have to give up some cargo space to get to the same level. And if you don't think tank is important I suggest you go and read up a bit on the subject of suicide ganking.
In the end it doesn't really matter that much once you get to t2 haulers and freighters. All races are more or less equally good.
This, except the itty 5 can provide some extra cargo with it's third rigslot. That is the only reason to stay t1.
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achoura
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:40:00 -
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41.8 before cans but if i put tii rigs on any hauler it'll be my bustard, itty is made of paper. ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |

Hoshi
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lorz0r setup correctly the viator is unbelievably hard to catch. that **** warps as fast as some interceptors
Once setup the Viator, Crane and Prowler all have the the same warp time (2.6 sec with t1 rigs). Only the Prorator stands out with 2.3 sec due to it's larger number of lowslots. On the other hand the Prorator get the smallest base cargo of them all so it sort of evens out. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Antikas Sourr
Caldari FACTION Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi 5 min job in EFT, no rigs as they will have the same effect on all.
Iteron Mark V (G): 25.270 m3 Bestower (A): 15.856 m3 Mammoth (M): 18.581 m3 Badger Mark II (C): 13.602 m3
But once you have level 5 and get access to t2 haulers there is little reason to fly t1 anymore.
So here are the t2 deepspace haulers. Impel (A): 27.387 m3 Occator (G): 26.850 m3 Bustard (C): 23.165 m3 Mastodon (M): 22.112 m3
And finally freighters: Charon (C): 981.250 m3 Obelisk (G): 937.500 m3 Providence (A): 918.750 m3 Fenrir (M): 900.000 m3
But there are other stuff that matters than size. Bustard and Mastodon can for example tank very well while still carrying the full amount while Impel and Occator have to give up some cargo space to get to the same level. And if you don't think tank is important I suggest you go and read up a bit on the subject of suicide ganking.
In the end it doesn't really matter that much once you get to t2 haulers and freighters. All races are more or less equally good.
Perfect feedback, and I totally agree on the tank. It's a very important issue I keep thinking of considering the suicide ganking that goes around. Considering suicide gankers, would shield or armor be better as far as survival goes? I definitely agree on the T2 transports, there is more one can do with them once trained for. Considering they are all rather equal, is it safe to say that I should train whichever one I would prefer as far as tank and looks go? _______________
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Corrain
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Posted - 2008.04.28 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Antikas Sourr Considering suicide gankers, would shield or armor be better as far as survival goes?
Whichever gives the best combination of hitpoints and resistances? If you have way more armor skill than shield or vice versa, that may sway your decision. Shields of course repair themselves and are "fixed" upon docking for free. But as mentioned above, you give up cargo capacity when you armor tank. Devote just one of an Impel's lows to an armor repper or single hardener and you lose any capacity advantage. Compare to a ship with mid slots, those can fully expand cargo and fit a tank as they please.
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