Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Originally by: Xenaxi

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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an honest run down.

More like an honest whine about being out maneuvered.

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Originally by: Katya Ishenka

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at least all the Mommys got out safe tho

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Originally by: Darknesss

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Originally by: Xenaxi

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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an honest run down.

More like an honest whine about being out maneuvered.

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what in gods name are you talking about? out maneuvered? we had them trapped between a capital gang with a titan and a sniper fleet. We just couldn't see anything. They DID make the best of that situation... but out maneuvered?

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Originally by: Darknesss

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Bla bla bla

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Originally by: Griever Takkow

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Honest my arse . take your head out your bacside for 2 secs and rethink what happened.

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Originally by: MeTrade

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Yea sure! and how did tri managed to kill that HIC that was get you traped on the BKG gate when you had no grid load ? LOL WHINER !

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Originally by: Darknesss

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our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through.

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Originally by: Katya Ishenka

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Originally by: Griever Takkow

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Honest my arse . take your head out your bacside for 2 secs and rethink what happened.

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He dont know wot happened at all. I was in the fleet and when we got the order from FC to jump, we jump and find Deki is already in system we were told was clear and he DD'd. Darkness is sat in his mommy with all other normal TRI FC in their expensive toyz while we all die. Was bad call, and bad scoutin.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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An OK plan that didn't work due to not planning for lag on jumping a titan in to DDD.

Congrats Vuk, good to see the Rag being put to it's proper use

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Originally by: Katya Ishenka

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Originally by: Griever Takkow

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Honest my arse . take your head out your bacside for 2 secs and rethink what happened.

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He dont know wot happened at all. I was in the fleet and when we got the order from FC to jump, we jump and find Deki is already in system we were told was clear and he DD'd. Darkness is sat in his mommy with all other normal TRI FC in their expensive toyz while we all die. Was bad call, and bad scoutin.

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Originally by: USN CVN72

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Ding Ding USN Arriving.

We all can admit the game is not playable the way it was meant to be. But i know one thing. TriUrgency will not fold because they lose one engagement.

Ding Ding USN Departing.

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Originally by: Mae Len

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Originally by: Katya Ishenka

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Originally by: Griever Takkow

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Honest my arse . take your head out your bacside for 2 secs and rethink what happened.

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He dont know wot happened at all. I was in the fleet and when we got the order from FC to jump, we jump and find Deki is already in system we were told was clear and he DD'd. Darkness is sat in his mommy with all other normal TRI FC in their expensive toyz while we all die. Was bad call, and bad scoutin.

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i dont usually make the effort to post here, however its time to oust the alt. XXANGELXX, stop using alts m'dear. i know its yours because its k shara's alt. check this characters corp history and k shara's. they all match up.

Your entitled to your opinion love, just use one of your mains instead. kkthnxsbye

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Originally by: Imperian

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Edited by: Imperian on 28/04/2008 23:38:21
Edited by: Imperian on 28/04/2008 23:30:34
Thank you Dark for this report from your view.

We killed the cyno and everyone without aggro got out before the DD kicked off.

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Originally by: Katya Ishenka

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Shouldn't you be more worried about catching my ingame alt than my forum alt D:

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Originally by: CCP Atropos

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Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.

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Quote:

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...sure fire win backfired...
...i didnt think it was possible....
...easy victory....

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Originally by: Vuk Lau

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The moment I warped in i started pressing F1 as mad. Didnt load ANYTHING, not even gate. After damage notification message I ordered everyone to come and finish the job and warped Deki to POS. Loaded tower 30 minutes after o.O. GJ CCP :D

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Originally by: Elliott Manchild

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Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 28/04/2008 23:49:21
I think I was one of only people that actually loaded grid within 30seconds, but I guess cyno was to late. Doomsday took about 30 seconds also, but I never saw there 'main' gang it had already jumped.

Either way, good fight etc :)

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Originally by: Kay Han

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We just missed a Wyvern kill at least.. Because of.. guess?
Right a missing dictor bubble... ohhh the irony....

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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And you wonder why your alliance is collapsing.

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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Quote:

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...sure fire win backfired...
...i didnt think it was possible....
...easy victory....

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And you wonder why your alliance is collapsing.

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Originally by: Vuk Lau

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Well I will give short report from my side.

My wife woke me up after my corpmate/RL friend sent me sms to come online.

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Originally by: David Odinson

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Originally by: Vuk Lau

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Well I will give short report from my side.

My wife woke me up after my corpmate/RL friend sent me sms to come online.

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lol i don't care about the rest... i wasn't there... lag kills blah blah....

but am i the only one that noticed that vuk must have the best wife in eve?

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Originally by: Heywood Jablomie

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Was planned...we REALLY needed to find that cloaked falcon.

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Originally by: Setana Manoro

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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 29/04/2008 02:23:50
I especially like the genius that is Wesley Baird, too bad that for posting on SHC you need special privileges, neither of which is related to brains.
Wesley, you were on the outbound gate, and from what i was told you fired the cyno with 160 in local, as ppl were jumping out, because you guys, didn't think it was a good ideea to put up a bubble on the gate, even though you were trying to DDD them. :)

Link

Maybe you should have kept the PVP-ers in the alliance Darknesss, they might have known a dictor was needed for such a perfect plan that just so happens that lag made it backfire.
But hey, you guys got to keep your moms, big props guys. :)

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Originally by: Ariko Gunaris

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Tri's always been a paper tiger and their recently loss their top three PvP corps shows.

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 03:48:09
Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Edited by: Wesley Baird on 29/04/2008 03:06:28

Originally by: Setana Manoro

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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 29/04/2008 02:23:50
I especially like the genius that is Wesley Baird, too bad that for posting on SHC you need special privileges, neither of which is related to brains.
Wesley, you were on the outbound gate, and from what i was told you fired the cyno with 160 in local, as ppl were jumping out, because you guys, didn't think it was a good ideea to put up a bubble on the gate, even though you were trying to DDD them. :)

Link

Maybe you should have kept the PVP-ers in the alliance Darknesss, they might have known a dictor was needed for such a perfect plan that just so happens that lag made it backfire.
But hey, you guys got to keep your moms, big props guys. :)

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Thanks for the kind words o/

Cyno was placed where I was asked to put it. (note Im talking about the first DD, wasnt anywhere near the second DD)

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Originally by: Eventus

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is that why I saw you goin to jita in a shuttle?

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Originally by: Eventus

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wes will go out and solo a fleet so im sure all will be fine.

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Originally by: Ralara

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No no no, you all got it wrong.

It's all part of our battle plan - we're lulling (lolling?) the enemy into a false sense of security, we meant for this to happen.

*rubs hands together*

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Originally by: Lipix

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Originally by: Ralara

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No no no, you all got it wrong.

It's all part of our battle plan - we're lulling (lolling?) the enemy into a false sense of security, we meant for this to happen.

*rubs hands together*

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the lolling (meh.. it works I guess) objective has been achieved for sure

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Originally by: Ralara

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Originally by: Lipix

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Originally by: Ralara

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No no no, you all got it wrong.

It's all part of our battle plan - we're lulling (lolling?) the enemy into a false sense of security, we meant for this to happen.

*rubs hands together*

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the lolling (meh.. it works I guess) objective has been achieved for sure

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Elliott's only passed his Provisional on the Titan licence, he's not had the full test yet. He's lucky Concord isn't in 0.0, they'd have fined him for not having a full licence holder on the Bridge with him.

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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Originally by: Des Garcons

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sounds like tri needs to teach their titan pilots how to F1 faster lol

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Originally by: FellRaven

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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So let me get this straight http://www.eve-razor.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=68377 never happened and Tri - Insurgency are now kings of the BS Blob as well at the Cap Fleet Blob.

But you always use skill not numbers, yea right

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Originally by: Sunshine Carebear

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Originally by: FellRaven

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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So let me get this straight http://www.eve-razor.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=68377 never happened and Tri - Insurgency are now kings of the BS Blob as well at the Cap Fleet Blob.

But you always use skill not numbers, yea right

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You do realise thats link only includes razor losses and you actually lost that fight :) both in terms of losses and in terms of not holding the field. And there was only 70 trisurge on the field to start with the rest of the numbers coming later and not really being in the fight (bar couple of late kills). IF you wanted a fight Rzr won you want the one in bkg earlier in the day.

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Originally by: FellRaven

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I wasn't saying NC won or TriSurg lost the fight but merely pointing out it took place in 4DT. Oh look another one http://kb.insrg.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=37000

On a side note I find it odd when people decide who won or who lost an engagement based on numbers killed, who held the field etc etc. Before you can decide who won or lost you have to now what the two sides objectives were

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Originally by: lecrotta

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Originally by: FellRaven

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I wasn't saying NC won or TriSurg lost the fight but merely pointing out it took place in 4DT. Oh look another one http://kb.insrg.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=37000

On a side note I find it odd when people decide who won or who lost an engagement based on numbers killed, who held the field etc etc. Before you can decide who won or lost you have to now what the two sides objectives were

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I do not think that anybody is surprised that a member of hydra has difficulty recognizing who won, its not like you have a lot of xp in that particular area is it?.

Anyway GF and lulz at the lag comments.

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Originally by: Katya Ishenka

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I was in the fleet and when we got the order from FC to jump, we jump and find Deki is already in system we were told was clear and he DD'd. Darkness is sat in his mommy with all other normal TRI FC in their expensive toyz while we all die. Was bad call, and bad scoutin.

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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This is why Titans suck (ffs ccp remove the DD device and get them back to being a mobile base as originally intended), given the lag and inability to warp out as intended it is ridiculous that you have these 1 shot fleet killers.

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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This is why Titans suck (ffs ccp remove the DD device and get them back to being a mobile base as originally intended), given the lag and inability to warp out as intended it is ridiculous that you have these 1 shot fleet killers.

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Originally by: Darknesss

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I'll give an honest run down. We had been holding 4DT all day and the enemy fleet were waiting in BKG/Z-K area. They moved off to start sieging random small towers in venal with their gang of about 150.

We decided we would lay a trap for them when they came back, we positioned our fleet in BKG and a cyno pilot in C-L where the enemy fleet was to be coming from. We kept our fleet in BKG until the last second so the enemy fleet would warp to the LXW gate at 0km. When they started warping to the gate we jumped our fleet into LXW warped them to the C-L gate at sniper ranges and our cyno pilot in C-L decloaked and dropped our cap fleet and 1 titan onto the gate.

Lag kicked in 30 seconds later than it should have happened the DD went off killing just 20 out of the 150 man fleet. The rest managed to jump through. Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.

I was in the capital gang at the time so cant say exactly what happened with our support fleet but they ended up getting doomsdayed on the BKG gate while again they had nothing loaded. They just watched their ships health drop helplessly.

Essentially what should have been a sure fire win backfired when i didnt think it was possible. The enemy fleet should have been killed on the C-L gate, but they weren't and then a titan caught our gang with its pants down. Good play on that titans part... and ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

N1 to the other guys for managing to make the best of a terrible situation.

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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Originally by: Natsumi Hikaru

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Edited by: Natsumi Hikaru on 29/04/2008 13:56:27

Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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Math is not exaclty your strong side isn¦t it 92,5 billion are hardly 1500 Sniper BS with T2 fitting it is more like 462 rounded up .... so try again ... alt

edit: typos

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Originally by: der K

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barking dogs..
u prolly give a **** but tri just lost another capsuleer's respect. o/

bahh...

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Originally by: Natsumi Hikaru

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Edited by: Natsumi Hikaru on 29/04/2008 13:56:27

Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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Math is not exaclty your strong side isn¦t it 92,5 billion are hardly 1500 Sniper BS with T2 fitting it is more like 462 rounded up .... so try again ... alt

edit: typos

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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Yeah, and while we're at it we can create a controlled environment around account hacking and credit card fraud and all the other EULA breaches..

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Originally by: NokNok

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Originally by: Natsumi Hikaru

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Edited by: Natsumi Hikaru on 29/04/2008 13:56:27

Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:06:33
Edited by: shadow pupeteer on 29/04/2008 04:05:41

Tbh only reason TRISURGE has to go looking for fights like this is because they completely control 4DT and have been taking down towers at will. Having 200 bored pilots doing nothing but camp 4DT gets old. Also support fights are fun but losing a sniper BS isn't really that hard to replace.

North hasn't even tried to field their cap fleet and jumps them out the second there is any kind of trisurge gang around. TRISURGE have all D4R moons and now have vast majority in 4DT. Fact is north can brag about killing 15 BS in a fight all they want but 3-4 more weekends like this and RAZOR will be smacking from Jita.

BTW if you still wanna brag about ISK ratios consider this

Thats 1,500+ t2 sniper BS right there

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Math is not exaclty your strong side isn¦t it 92,5 billion are hardly 1500 Sniper BS with T2 fitting it is more like 462 rounded up .... so try again ... alt

edit: typos

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You forgot insurance ;)

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Originally by: NokNok

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That's all we want afaik.

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: NokNok

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That's all we want afaik.

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Actually Insurgency what to clean the North with burning fire.

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Originally by: FellRaven

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Originally by: lecrotta

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Originally by: FellRaven

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I wasn't saying NC won or TriSurg lost the fight but merely pointing out it took place in 4DT. Oh look another one http://kb.insrg.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=37000

On a side note I find it odd when people decide who won or who lost an engagement based on numbers killed, who held the field etc etc. Before you can decide who won or lost you have to now what the two sides objectives were

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I do not think that anybody is surprised that a member of hydra has difficulty recognizing who won, its not like you have a lot of xp in that particular area is it?.

Anyway GF and lulz at the lag comments.

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I'm suprised that at have to explain this seeing as clearly being in Hydra makes me so inferior.

If for arguements sake you have 50 players trapped in a system with 2-300 Hostiles having to logoff as SS and you send a force to break the gatecamp which allows these players to rejoin the fighting but you lose more ships than the enemy, that is still a tactical victory.

You have to know what else went on before you can decide and there were several other aspects to this operation which made it a clear victory for NC

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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*snip*

Taking systems is our goal and so for its been total victory. Oh and BKG WE'RE COMING IN HOT!!!!

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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... I really get emo about are Smashkill because Peoke rejects me all the time.

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Edited by: Wesley Baird on 29/04/2008 03:06:28

Originally by: Setana Manoro

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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 29/04/2008 02:23:50
I especially like the genius that is Wesley Baird, too bad that for posting on SHC you need special privileges, neither of which is related to brains.
Wesley, you were on the outbound gate, and from what i was told you fired the cyno with 160 in local, as ppl were jumping out, because you guys, didn't think it was a good ideea to put up a bubble on the gate, even though you were trying to DDD them. :)

Link

Maybe you should have kept the PVP-ers in the alliance Darknesss, they might have known a dictor was needed for such a perfect plan that just so happens that lag made it backfire.
But hey, you guys got to keep your moms, big props guys. :)

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Thanks for the kind words o/

Cyno was placed where I was asked to put it. (note Im talking about the first DD, wasnt anywhere near the second DD)

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Originally by: MineralOel Steuer

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wow looking at TRI killboard, they manage to DD their own Fleet again.

pure fail tbh

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Originally by: Skyr

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The rabble above.

Riiiight, we will see how you fare with your bs fleet against cap fleet. Good luck.

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Originally by: Miss Behavin

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At this rate, TRI will DD their entire fleet and their allies within a few weeks.

Northern Coalition should just stay docked

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Originally by: Miss Behavin

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At this rate, TRI will DD their entire fleet and their allies within a few weeks.

Northern Coalition should just stay docked

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Originally by: Miss Behavin

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At this rate, TRI will DD their entire fleet and their allies within a few weeks.

Northern Coalition should just stay docked

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At this rate NAP Coalition will have no where in 0.0 to dock in a few weeks.

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Originally by: Skyr

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Originally by: Miss Behavin

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At this rate, TRI will DD their entire fleet and their allies within a few weeks.

Northern Coalition should just stay docked

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At this rate NAP Coalition will have no where in 0.0 to dock in a few weeks.

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I don't see you guys outside much (the systems you are holed in) except for repeat DDing your own fleet. Why would we interfere with that?

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Ya we have been "holed" in D4R and 4DT taking down all your POS in a weekend that took you two weeks and 20 cap + 1 Titan loss to get in.

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Originally by: Shirei

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Edited by: Shirei on 29/04/2008 22:03:55

Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Ya we have been "holed" in D4R and 4DT taking down all your POS in a weekend that took you two weeks and 20 cap + 1 Titan loss to get in.

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You do realise that TRISurgency and allies also lost in excess of 30 caps already in this war, right? Both sides have taken quite significant losses and lost quite a few POS.. that happens in a war.

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Originally by: Shirei

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Edited by: Shirei on 29/04/2008 22:03:55

Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Ya we have been "holed" in D4R and 4DT taking down all your POS in a weekend that took you two weeks and 20 cap + 1 Titan loss to get in.

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You do realise that TRISurgency and allies also lost in excess of 30 caps already in this war, right? Both sides have taken quite significant losses and lost quite a few POS.. that happens in a war.

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Originally by: Skyr

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Originally by: Miss Behavin

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At this rate, TRI will DD their entire fleet and their allies within a few weeks.

Northern Coalition should just stay docked

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At this rate NAP Coalition will have no where in 0.0 to dock in a few weeks.

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I don't see you guys outside much (the systems you are holed in) except for repeat DDing your own fleet. Why would we interfere with that?

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Originally by: darth raida

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Originally by: Skyr

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Originally by: Miss Behavin

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At this rate, TRI will DD their entire fleet and their allies within a few weeks.

Northern Coalition should just stay docked

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At this rate NAP Coalition will have no where in 0.0 to dock in a few weeks.

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I don't see you guys outside much (the systems you are holed in) except for repeat DDing your own fleet. Why would we interfere with that?

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I thought you were invading them? Have you given that up or something?

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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STUFF

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Originally by: CCP Atropos

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Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.

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Originally by: Kay Han

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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STUFF

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tri showed up and something went wrong on our side. Not sure what, since it was known for a long time that Tri will joining the BBQ, but something definitely went wrong.

You are right. "You" took back d4r and 4dt within 1 weekend.

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Originally by: Kay Han

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All you can do is hiding behind Cynojammed systems with a Carrier blob.
All you guys can do is spamming fighters to create even more lag.
but hey.. thats all part of the game. So i think its fine to call victories bacause of fighterspam, Glorious

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you think YOU killed the titan? I say the ******* PURE. moron killed the titan (no anger against any other pure members involved here) until tri showed up, you guys were laying down with a low morale. Thats it.

Then tri showed up and something went wrong on our side. Not sure what, since it was known for a long time that Tri will joing the BBQ, but something definitly went wrong.

You are right. "You" took back d4r and 4dt within 1 weekend.
Now go back to your cage and grow some hairy balls and post with your main.

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Originally by: Danny Centurai

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Threads like this is the reason CAOD fails!

Take a look at the killboards for yourself. They don't lie the battle has become even in kills and deaths excluding the unfortunate death of a titan.

Trisurg gets lucky and onto a Titan kill, coalition gets lucky and DD the Trisurg fleet for wrecking damage.

The fact is that this war has only just begun and for a change its an interesting one. Both sides are actually using their titans in some cases better than others. The ships were built to be lost as is every ship in EVE.

Thanks to Tri and Insurg for turning a steamrolling into a real fight. Sure there will be many more battles both on and off the forums.

Remember boys and girls:
'Titans will die but great alliances will live on.'

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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So an 100b ISK Titan is equal to 20 BS killed by a lucky DD and losing all your POS that took 2 weeks to setup in D4R and 4DT doesn't matter.

We didn't want those station systems anyway amirite

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Originally by: Danny Centurai

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When you lose 4 or 5 fleet BS and it isn't being refunded by your alliance then you start to lose peoples interest. Participation drops fleets get smaller and well the war runs dry. Even if alliance A has 10 times more kills than alliance B it doesn't matter as long as allaince B is ISK stable they aren't losing the war.

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Originally by: Danny Centurai

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Threads like this is the reason CAOD fails!

Take a look at the killboards for yourself. They don't lie the battle has become even in kills and deaths excluding the unfortunate death of a titan.

Trisurg gets lucky and onto a Titan kill, coalition gets lucky and DD the Trisurg fleet for wrecking damage.

The fact is that this war has only just begun and for a change its an interesting one. Both sides are actually using their titans in some cases better than others. The ships were built to be lost as is every ship in EVE.

Thanks to Tri and Insurg for turning a steamrolling into a real fight. Sure there will be many more battles both on and off the forums.

Remember boys and girls:
'Titans will die but great alliances will live on.'

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Originally by: Danny Centurai

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Threads like this is the reason CAOD fails!

Take a look at the killboards for yourself. They don't lie the battle has become even in kills and deaths excluding the unfortunate death of a titan.

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Originally by: Triab

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I guess everyone in eve is using the api now?

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Originally by: Darknesss

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Lag kicked in ... Our sniper gang failed to load the grid and so couldnt shoot any ships on the other side. The enemy fleet somehow managed to get out the bubbles and warp off with minimal losses.
...
ofc we shouldnt complain about lag yada yada... but lag destroyed what should have been an easy victory.

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Originally by: Danny Centurai

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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So an 100b ISK Titan is equal to 20 BS killed by a lucky DD and losing all your POS that took 2 weeks to setup in D4R and 4DT doesn't matter.

We didn't want those station systems anyway amirite

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WTS Titan 100bil... I think not. The fight is even now is what I said. The losses of the systems knock us down a step but we don't seem to be running out of towers to spam.

Wars are won and lost on who can keep their war effort going the side that runs out of isk first is the loser. This can take days, weeks or even months. IMO a titan loss is not huge it doesn't affect members on a personal level.

When you lose 4 or 5 fleet BS and it isn't being refunded by your alliance then you start to lose peoples interest. Participation drops fleets get smaller and well the war runs dry. Even if alliance A has 10 times more kills than alliance B it doesn't matter as long as allaince B is ISK stable they aren't losing the war.

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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Originally by: Danny Centurai

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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So an 100b ISK Titan is equal to 20 BS killed by a lucky DD and losing all your POS that took 2 weeks to setup in D4R and 4DT doesn't matter.

We didn't want those station systems anyway amirite

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WTS Titan 100bil... I think not. The fight is even now is what I said. The losses of the systems knock us down a step but we don't seem to be running out of towers to spam.

Wars are won and lost on who can keep their war effort going the side that runs out of isk first is the loser. This can take days, weeks or even months. IMO a titan loss is not huge it doesn't affect members on a personal level.

When you lose 4 or 5 fleet BS and it isn't being refunded by your alliance then you start to lose peoples interest. Participation drops fleets get smaller and well the war runs dry. Even if alliance A has 10 times more kills than alliance B it doesn't matter as long as allaince B is ISK stable they aren't losing the war.

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90B build cost plus the logistics that go into making one.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Edited by: Fred0 on 30/04/2008 07:11:24

Dude, if logging into your TRI/ATF/DESTINY/INSRG account makes you this rabid and upset I'd suggest just chilling for a while. :) The **** you are spouting is not only delusional, it seems unhealthy aswell.

(Oh and Intensity Green cost us pretty much spot on 51 bill in jita mineral prices. Add to that maybe 10-15 bill in mods. What's not counted for here is the huge logistical effort of putting one together by the 2-3 people that did the main bulk of the work. count that into it and the Titan is priceless. That's the full loss anyway. It's a big one and it hurt, CEI as a corp suffered slight participation drop as is only natural. But the good thing ofcourse the slack has been picked up. We've gotten over it and are moving on with our allies aswell as looking forward to the continued fight. The fallout wasn't as big as I had feared.)

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Originally by: ArmyOfMe

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i cant belive i missed that
damn my sister and her damn birthday

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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If you want to talk about participation then we have 1/10th your members but larger gangs. What does that tell you about the status of NAPTRAIN COALITION participation.

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Originally by: Xaldor

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Originally by: shadow pupeteer

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If you want to talk about participation then we have 1/10th your members but larger gangs. What does that tell you about the status of NAPTRAIN COALITION participation.

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Do you really want to be encouraging the other 9/10ths to hit the front? ;)

I'm coming, save some love for me. :)

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Originally by: Kay Han

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All you can do is hiding behind Cynojammed systems with a Carrier blob.

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Originally by: bluechimera

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Originally by: Kay Han

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All you can do is hiding behind Cynojammed systems with a Carrier blob.

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Can't cynojam d4r or 4dt (yet), what is your point? Last I checked our entire cap fleet, minus the ones doing logistics and the hotdrops into wherever elliot wants to DD us next, are in those two systems =P

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Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom

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Edited by: Boom ChickaBoom on 30/04/2008 20:31:40
Edited by: Boom ChickaBoom on 30/04/2008 20:31:16
When is Darth going to post "insurgency stop spamming caod with your alts!!"?

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Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom

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Edited by: Boom ChickaBoom on 30/04/2008 20:31:40
Edited by: Boom ChickaBoom on 30/04/2008 20:31:16
When is Darth going to post "insurgency stop spamming caod with your alts!!"?

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Originally by: Map Screen

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Edited by: Map Screen on 30/04/2008 20:57:25

Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom

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Edited by: Boom ChickaBoom on 30/04/2008 20:31:40
Edited by: Boom ChickaBoom on 30/04/2008 20:31:16
When is Darth going to post "insurgency stop spamming caod with your alts!!"?

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Probably some ATF guy grinding his teeth after getting DDed. Then again TRI did DD a bunch insurgency too...

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