Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Edited by: Darius JOHNSON on 31/05/2008 16:07:38

Originally by: Windjammer

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I translate that as, "STFU and go away". Funny.....isn't that what you complain about other people doing to you even when they don't? (sigh) I suppose you're going to accuse me of putting words in your mouth again and/or calling you names. If you're not careful you might hurt my feelings.

Once again; I do not accept direction or censorship from you. I'm not one of your little bees. This will never change.

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You are attempting to put words in my mouth and call me names. You're more than welcome to say the same thing over and over and over again just don't feign hurt when you have nothing new to say and expect a different response from me. My little bees are a bit brighter than that.

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Originally by: Wu Jiun

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What? CSM reps get their own creepy stalkers? Now i want in too.

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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You don't like me.

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Originally by: Windjammer

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This is irony. The pot calling the kettle black, a predictable response, you have an apparent inability to see blatant sarcasm, I don't expect to see anything different from you in the future (though I'd sure like to), which is my main objection to you being on the council, and your bees can't be all that bright if you're any measure of said brightness.

At first I thought your actions during the council meeting were intentionally obstructive along with the subsequent posts you made on the forums supporting your actions and beliefs. For instance your belief that you were railroaded into a vote and not allowed to discuss. Then someone suggested you were merely slow. It seems incredible to me that you're this slow, but I'm coming around to that point of view. For the sake of your own credibility, if not for the sake of goonswarm, do try harder. Kick it up a notch and try to keep up with the rest. Failing that, please consider the merits of silence. Having a tantrum in a council meeting does not make you look good or reflect well upon goonswarm and will only result in you being marginalized or removed.

Windjammer

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Originally by: Drago Vanguard

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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You don't like me.

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I don't like you either. You just watch yourself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems.

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Good looking out big guy. You keep believing in yourself.

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Originally by: Wilko1776

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i'm not going to read the whole of this thread, but i'd like to put it on record that having heard for myself the way in which darius johnson conducts himself, he is a bit of a simpleton/special boy who thinks he is "out there" with his humour and likes to "push the boundaries" of what is acceptible, he is probably bad news, but boo hoo hoo who cares, let him play with his new toy. I won't be reading this thread again so direct any abuse to my evemail if you feel the need to care.

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Originally by: Tiger Delivery

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Originally by: Wilko1776

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i'm not going to read the whole of this thread, but i'd like to put it on record that having heard for myself the way in which darius johnson conducts himself, he is a bit of a simpleton/special boy who thinks he is "out there" with his humour and likes to "push the boundaries" of what is acceptible, he is probably bad news, but boo hoo hoo who cares, let him play with his new toy. I won't be reading this thread again so direct any abuse to my evemail if you feel the need to care.

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Totally agree, we don't need the worst of Goonies in the CSM, keep Bane, remove Darius.

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Originally by: Wilko1776

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i'm not going to read the whole of this thread, but i'd like to put it on record that having heard for myself the way in which darius johnson conducts himself, he is a bit of a simpleton/special boy who thinks he is "out there" with his humour and likes to "push the boundaries" of what is acceptible, he is probably bad news, but boo hoo hoo who cares, let him play with his new toy. I won't be reading this thread again so direct any abuse to my evemail if you feel the need to care.

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Originally by: Wilko1776

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i'm not going to read the whole of this thread, but i'd like to put it on record that having heard for myself the way in which darius johnson conducts himself, he is a bit of a simpleton/special boy who thinks he is "out there" with his humour and likes to "push the boundaries" of what is acceptible, he is probably bad news, but boo hoo hoo who cares, let him play with his new toy. I won't be reading this thread again so direct any abuse to my evemail if you feel the need to care.

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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Originally by: Tiger Delivery

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Originally by: Wilko1776

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i'm not going to read the whole of this thread, but i'd like to put it on record that having heard for myself the way in which darius johnson conducts himself, he is a bit of a simpleton/special boy who thinks he is "out there" with his humour and likes to "push the boundaries" of what is acceptible, he is probably bad news, but boo hoo hoo who cares, let him play with his new toy. I won't be reading this thread again so direct any abuse to my evemail if you feel the need to care.

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Totally agree, we don't need the worst of Goonies in the CSM, keep Bane, remove Darius.

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I am sure Darius would gladly step down to a suitable replacement if it meant Jade was removed as well :)

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Originally by: Windjammer

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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Originally by: Tiger Delivery

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Originally by: Wilko1776

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i'm not going to read the whole of this thread, but i'd like to put it on record that having heard for myself the way in which darius johnson conducts himself, he is a bit of a simpleton/special boy who thinks he is "out there" with his humour and likes to "push the boundaries" of what is acceptible, he is probably bad news, but boo hoo hoo who cares, let him play with his new toy. I won't be reading this thread again so direct any abuse to my evemail if you feel the need to care.

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Totally agree, we don't need the worst of Goonies in the CSM, keep Bane, remove Darius.

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I am sure Darius would gladly step down to a suitable replacement if it meant Jade was removed as well :)

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Naw. Darius wouldn't step down. You're forgetting his ego. Must really burn his cookies the way everyone seems to prefer Bane over him.

Windjammer

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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Considering he was the one that initially wanted it to only be Bane running, I seriously doubt that.

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Originally by: Windjammer

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I won't argue what Darius initially wanted. The focus is on what he ended up wanting and how he feels now.

Windjammer

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Originally by: Windjammer

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I won't argue what Darius initially wanted. The focus is on what he ended up wanting and how he feels now.

Windjammer

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Hey you put your internet psychic hat back on! You have no idea what I've ever wanted or how I've ever felt. Let's not be silly. I know it's a stretch.

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Originally by: Windjammer

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Originally by: Windjammer

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I won't argue what Darius initially wanted. The focus is on what he ended up wanting and how he feels now.

Windjammer

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Hey you put your internet psychic hat back on! You have no idea what I've ever wanted or how I've ever felt. Let's not be silly. I know it's a stretch.

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No, not really that much of a stretch. It's based upon posting inside goonswarm. You remember. Instructions to your bees on how to vote? Splitting the vote between you and Bane? That sort of information. Remember that? Also based upon your prima donna antics in CSM meetings.

I know it seems like magic to you (or a psychic trick), but it's not.

Windjammer

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Originally by: Windjammer

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Originally by: Windjammer

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I won't argue what Darius initially wanted. The focus is on what he ended up wanting and how he feels now.

Windjammer

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Hey you put your internet psychic hat back on! You have no idea what I've ever wanted or how I've ever felt. Let's not be silly. I know it's a stretch.

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No, not really that much of a stretch. It's based upon posting inside goonswarm. You remember. Instructions to your bees on how to vote? Splitting the vote between you and Bane? That sort of information. Remember that? Also based upon your prima donna antics in CSM meetings.

I know it seems like magic to you (or a psychic trick), but it's not.

Windjammer

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Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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Well you see the thing is we had an internal vote from about a dozen or so candidates that ended up with darius/bane as the top 2 choices and it was decided we would split the vote between the top 2 candidates which just happened to be the two of them. It could have been a number of different people in these positions.

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Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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What Prima Donna antics? you mean standing up to the chair when he is abusing his power?

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Originally by: Cursive

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Oh, shnap, we have spies?!

Woah.

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Originally by: Windjammer

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Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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Well you see the thing is we had an internal vote from about a dozen or so candidates that ended up with darius/bane as the top 2 choices and it was decided we would split the vote between the top 2 candidates which just happened to be the two of them. It could have been a number of different people in these positions.

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Yes. If Darius had wanted it to be solely Bane, he (Darius) would have dropped out. Therefore, Darius changed his mind from his original desire.

Here's something to ponder. If Darius had dropped out, Bane would now be the chair of the CSM instead of Jade. Kind of makes you think. At risk of being called psychic, I'll venture that goonswarm will forward just one candidate next CSM election. However, there's always the chance goonswarm will be smarter than that.

Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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What Prima Donna antics? you mean standing up to the chair when he is abusing his power?

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I mean jumping up and down like a red faced child during his attempt to block a vote in the first CSM meeting. I mean engaging in a fleet battle during the second CSM meeting (Couldn't be bothered to give his full attention to the meeting. He's much to important for that.). I mean trying to fan a bad situation into a fire in the third meeting by acting in the same rightously indignant fashion as he did in the first meeting. And I mean his, and goonswarms, consistent and perpetual attempts to blow incidents from the CSM out of proportion using these forums as a tool to do so.

There were several in the third CSM meeting who "stood up to the chair" as you put it. Only Darius Johnson found it necessary to have a tantrum both there and on the forums. Frankly, with Darius to base a measurement of goonswarm on, Bane comes as a surprise.

Regards,
Windjammer

P.S. I might be reading your text incorrectly in terms of tone, but you seem surprisingly civil. Are you sure your heart is in this defense of your current CEO?

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.

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Originally by: Windjammer

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That's too X Fileish. You may expect a reprimand from your glorious CEO.

Windjammer

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Goons or anyone else is well within their rights to say whatever they like.

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Originally by: Illaria

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That's actually not the Goonswarm I remember. Right to trash post doesn't equal right to say whatever you want.

The Goonswarm I was in, one was free to do and say whatever you wanted, as long as you:

1) Never questioned the directorate;
2) Never questioned, or even just tried to discuss or get a clarification on war strategy;
3) Never let your burning hate for BoB be doubted by making a balanced statement about them.

Also it was wise to adhere to expected communication patterns:

a) Post in memes and one liners (this even applied to the war room on the Gf.com forums)
b) Serious communication was generally something to be frowned upon. It wasn't needed after all, as the directorate in their fathomless wisdom already facilitated all the necessary thought process among themselves. You just had to X up.
c) There are only Allies (all super friends), Enemies (to be meta hated) and Pubbies (worthy of contempt). Your outside communication had to reflect this.

I would like to remind you of the Goon who dared to deviate from said communication patterns, and was ordered to facilitate his own banning from eve-o (he posted close up pictures of a certain orifice and was perma banned, not only from the forums but also from the game, for this).


Goonswarm may have changed a little bit for the better since these days (probably due to the disappearence of The Mittani) but events like the witch hunt on Jade or the recent readmission of Cippalipus Primus in your ranks make me somehow doubt about the extent of this.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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I'm sorry you don't agree with the administration of the corp you are not a member of. v0v be bitter about it.

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Originally by: Illaria

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It's not about my agreement with how Goonswarm runs his business, but about the public picture you recently try to paint of your alliance.

Or let me put in simple words, perhaps more suitable to your part of the audience:
It'a about calling you on your bull****.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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And what bull**** would that be? You quoted me saying goons can post whatever they want. They can. Where's the bull****?

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Originally by: Illaria

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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And what bull**** would that be? You quoted me saying goons can post whatever they want. They can. Where's the bull****?

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No they can't. I listed topics that were taboo or at least frowned upon. If they did so anyway: they were either outright banned, or, on a minor offense, ridiculed by the mob, with the backing of the directorate, for it.

I also gave a more prominent example of how unwelcome posts were suppressed by degrading one of your own members into banning himself from the eve-o forums (and accidentally from the game itself).

Truth is that you indeed have many freedoms in Goonfleet you don't have in other corps/alliances, but the truth also is that when it comes to blind mass following mentality it's also one of the worst.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.

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Originally by: Illaria

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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And what bull**** would that be? You quoted me saying goons can post whatever they want. They can. Where's the bull****?

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No they can't. I listed topics that were taboo or at least frowned upon. If they did so anyway: they were either outright banned, or, on a minor offense, ridiculed by the mob, with the backing of the directorate, for it.

I also gave a more prominent example of how unwelcome posts were suppressed by degrading one of your own members into banning himself from the eve-o forums (and accidentally from the game itself).

Truth is that you indeed have many freedoms in Goonfleet you don't have in other corps/alliances, but the truth also is that when it comes to blind mass following mentality it's also one of the worst.

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