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          Whitestar1 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:30:00 -
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          OK I am sick to death of people nicking ore when I am mining so I have decided to put their names up here to warn other people and hope that if others are having the same problem then they have somewhere to put the offenders names here. Also if the offenders on this thread are found in 0.4 systems and below then we all know to blow them out of the sky straight away (a shoot first ask questions later) 
  So here are 2 of mine
  JanJan and Docktor Evil We live for the one we die for the one | 
      
      
      
          
          Judicator 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:39:00 -
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          There is no shame in cleaning up the trash that others litter all over the place. I think we should salute the men and women that dedicate their life to keeping the spacelanes clear of others trash.
  Salvagers, I salute you! -------------------------
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          FreeTofi 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:46:00 -
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          Edited by: FreeTofi on 27/04/2004 11:47:38 The Sisters of Mercy accept your salutes and strive to work harder liberating ore. 
 
 
  p.s Whitestar1 where do u mine, i'll come and keep u company  
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          Bosie 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:51:00 -
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          Jud stop whoring the forums and get back to work! I am getting sick of telling you boy, once more and you are fired!
  Bosie.
 
 
  http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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          Judicator 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:53:00 -
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            Originally by: Bosie Jud stop whoring the forums and get back to work! I am getting sick of telling you boy, once more and you are fired!
  Bosie.
 
 
  Yea massa, I will, sorry massa. -------------------------
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          Whitestar1 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:55:00 -
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          Think im going to tell you were I do my mining. I might have only been playing for about a month but I aint that much of a noobie We live for the one we die for the one | 
      
      
      
          
          FreeTofi 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 11:56:00 -
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          Doh! foiled  
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          Whitestar1 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 12:01:00 -
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          hahaha   We live for the one we die for the one | 
      
      
      
          
          VinkNut 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 12:03:00 -
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          That's OK, I'll just use an agent to track you and then post likely systems here.
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  I may just shoot your can instead of nicking the ore though...or I may just shoot you - I haven't decided yet...
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          Judicator 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 12:08:00 -
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          I feelt inspired so I modified a small song a bit.
  We had joy, we had fun,  we had orethiefs on the run.  But the fun didn't last,  cauz the orethiefs ran too fast.  Now it's fun, got a gun,  ****in' orethiefs better run! 
 
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          Torlek 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 13:13:00 -
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          Why not name and shame yourself, only an idiot will mine into a non secure can if he has not got backup in the form of a friend using an alt with a kestral :D === [i]I'm telling you Teal'C if we don't find a way out of this soon I'm gonna loose it. Loose it, it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, 3 fries shor | 
      
      
      
          
          Dtech 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 13:52:00 -
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            Originally by: Judicator
   Originally by: Bosie Jud stop whoring the forums and get back to work! I am getting sick of telling you boy, once more and you are fired!
  Bosie.
 
 
  Yea massa, I will, sorry massa.
 
 
  I don't find that funny at all.
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          voogru 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 14:04:00 -
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          Heres how to stop ore thievery:
  Fit a weapon on your ship that does decent damage. When an indy is coming towards your can, take what you can into your own hold and shoot your can. Sure, you lose your ore, but they dont get your ore either.
 
  ------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. | 
      
      
      
          
          Judicator 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 14:06:00 -
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            Originally by: Dtech
   Originally by: Judicator
   Originally by: Bosie Jud stop whoring the forums and get back to work! I am getting sick of telling you boy, once more and you are fired!
  Bosie.
 
 
  Yea massa, I will, sorry massa.
 
 
  I don't find that funny at all.
 
 
  Do I look like I give a sh1t -------------------------
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          Jebidus Skari 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 15:03:00 -
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            Originally by: Judicator
   Originally by: Dtech
   Originally by: Judicator
   Originally by: Bosie Jud stop whoring the forums and get back to work! I am getting sick of telling you boy, once more and you are fired!
  Bosie.
 
 
  Yea massa, I will, sorry massa.
 
 
  I don't find that funny at all.
 
 
  Do I look like I give a sh1t
 
 
  I'm guessing the answer is... yes  
 
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          Jebidus Skari 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 15:03:00 -
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          Can I change my guess?  
 
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          Orethief One 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 15:35:00 -
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          ore thieves are all alts, they aren't stupid enough to venture into 0.4 space because they know they have already made many enemies... besides who go to 0.4 space when you can have so much fun in empire space with concord as your friend | 
      
      
      
          
          Tenaj 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 15:47:00 -
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          Ore thieves are scum.
  Convo me in game and I'll come and help you haul to keep those low lives away.
 
  Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
 
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          Orethief One 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 16:06:00 -
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          aweee poor Tenaj, some orethief popped ya orethiefing is much worse money than mining, sometimes i go on for a long time without finding a prey. Basically, I do it because it is fun dont tell that "shiva" will stop orethiving because it wont without us, why would secure cans exist?
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          Tenaj 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 16:14:00 -
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            Originally by: Orethief One aweee poor Tenaj, some orethief popped ya orethiefing is much worse money than mining, sometimes i go on for a long time without finding a prey. Basically, I do it because it is fun dont tell that "shiva" will stop orethiving because it wont without us, why would secure cans exist?
  
 
 
  *sigh* Read any of my other posts in the forums, check my standings in game and look up the definitions of Irony and Sarcasm in the dictionary
 
  Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
 
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          Maximo Prime 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 16:27:00 -
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          Wait..whats wrong with stealing ore? I have'nt done it. But I'm thinking on becoming a pirate so I just might start. Is it in the rules you cant steal ore? (honest question)
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          Orethief One 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 17:11:00 -
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          To Tenaj by the way, i also get this message from my prey a lot when i steal ore "I know people at high places, you will be hunted down"
  so dont try to come scare me with your standings with so and so corp, blah blah blah | 
      
      
      
          
          John Coldwell 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 17:46:00 -
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          Orethief One... did you miss the irony and sarcasm part? Tenaj is an orethief.... as simple as that.... got a problem with that ? You like any1 else can take up any and all grievences towards Tenaj, in 0.0 with me or Playmate bunny, now stfu you alt muppet --------------------------------------------
 
  "Have you ever felt that warm feeling of waking up as a clone, everything is so fresh and clean, no scars, no wrinkles (except for true amarrians), so pure, so angry, if not come on over and I'll help you see what I mean" | 
      
      
      
          
          Tenaj 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 18:14:00 -
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            Originally by: John Coldwell Orethief One... did you miss the irony and sarcasm part? Tenaj is an orethief.... as simple as that.... got a problem with that ? You like any1 else can take up any and all grievences towards Tenaj, in 0.0 with me or Playmate bunny, now stfu you alt muppet
 
 
  Thanks John. it's hard work sometimes, isn't it?
  Anyway, where you been? long time no hear from you. Missing you in bounty channel hon.
 
  Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
 
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          Orethief One 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 18:30:00 -
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          To Tenaj my utmost sincere apologies,  as i am not a native english speaker , even now i am still a bit confused
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          Weirda 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 18:34:00 -
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          The best part of EvE is that everyone can play they own way (and have fun they own way).
  For example... 3 noobs in their brand new (crappy) battleship pod Weirda in her cruiser the other night... That was fun for them (in .4 space... a group of three BS where they were safe)... Weirda was the real nOOb for not paying attention...
  Now Weirda have someone to avenge - and they can continue about their fun. Even though it was rough losing that brand new ship (idiot testing it out before deciding whether or not to insure, or just sell - doh), we all have our fun!
  The trash talking rocks too - because it can be backed up with action! Keep it coming!
  Scum Ore thiefs... don't get too close to Weirda's indy or you be in for an unpleasant surprise!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!   -- Thread Killer
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          Tenaj 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 18:38:00 -
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            Originally by: Orethief One To Tenaj my utmost sincere apologies,  as i am not a native english speaker , even now i am still a bit confused
  
 
 
  No problem, keep up the good work thieving 
 
  Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
 
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          Zoneh 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 19:26:00 -
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          No big problem. In 0.6 i PODKilled an ore thief. Just take a kestrel with 4x standard launcher with cruise missles and warp disturptor and modules for fast locking (for the pod) you kill it in 1min and then police start spawning :D
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          Mephisha 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 21:29:00 -
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           Today i saw a guy named "Orethief 1" in local.
  Makes you think twice about your can with that guy near  
  ------------------------------------------------ I have seen carebears with claws and PvP-Lords hiding in high sec space. So AWAY with all those terms. We are ALL citizens of EVE. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cracken 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 21:57:00 -
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          JUst a hint dude most ore theifs are alts. | 
      
      
      
          
          Tenaj 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.27 22:50:00 -
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            Originally by: *****en JUst a hint dude most ore theifs are alts.
 
 
  But not all 
 
  Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
 
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          Digital 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 01:23:00 -
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          I don't thief it, I just ransom it  
  If you don't pay the can goes boom   ____________________
 
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          Lyela 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 08:12:00 -
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          Freetofi, exactly how many Anagrams of Orethief have you come up with.
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          Siddy 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 08:48:00 -
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            Originally by: Digital I don't thief it, I just ransom it  
  If you don't pay the can goes boom  
 
 
 
  U can kill the Player who shoots at ur can ...
  how do i know? - i shooted ore killes in my apoch (drones are him) -------------------------------------------
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          Grimster 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 10:12:00 -
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          Named and shamed? Pffft!
  Should be named and praised IMHO.
  Let 'em make their ISK the way they do - just because they choose not to go through the drudgery of actually chopping the rocks and you're easy enough to mine in empire into jet cans, live with it or mine <0.5
  It's a risk you take like any other.
 
 
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          Gariuys 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 10:19:00 -
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            Originally by: Grimster Named and shamed? Pffft!
  Should be named and praised IMHO.
  Let 'em make their ISK the way they do - just because they choose not to go through the drudgery of actually chopping the rocks and you're easy enough to mine in empire into jet cans, live with it or mine <0.5
  It's a risk you take like any other.
 
 
 
  True enough, the trouble I've got with ore thieves is the simple truth that their are almost complete safe while doing it. ( and suicide kestrels are lame however they're used, be that to kill a ore thief or kill a indy in 1.0 IMHO ) ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool | 
      
      
      
          
          Grimster 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 10:23:00 -
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            Originally by: Gariuys
  True enough, the trouble I've got with ore thieves is the simple truth that their are almost complete safe while doing it. ( and suicide kestrels are lame however they're used, be that to kill a ore thief or kill a indy in 1.0 IMHO )
 
 
  I would agree suicide kestrels are lame. That's another topic though.  
 
 
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          ZURAN 666 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 11:58:00 -
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            Originally by: Siddy
   Originally by: Digital I don't thief it, I just ransom it  
  If you don't pay the can goes boom  
 
 
 
  U can kill the Player who shoots at ur can ...
  how do i know? - i shooted ore killes in my apoch (drones are him)
 
 
  Don't you mean Shot and Killers lol Nothing wrong with asking a little bit of money to get your ore back call it a tax lol | 
      
      
      
          
          FreeTofi 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 12:34:00 -
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          Try your Kestrels on Freetofi, think your'll be surprised  
  "The Sisters of Mercy"
  "we know no fear"
 
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          eFitHero 
           
          
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          Edited by: eFitHero on 28/04/2004 12:49:53
 
 
  Whats an orethief? ere we say orsethief but I'm guessing you don't steal orses
  Sisters of Mercy (was a great band too btw)
  Fire your misiles at me and you'll not be suprised cos I'll go pop...  
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          eFitHero 
           
          
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          Whats an orethief? ere we say orsethief but I'm guessing you don't steal orses
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          Tangentoar 
           
          
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            Originally by: Lyela Freetofi, exactly how many Anagrams of Orethief have you come up with.
 
 
  Hmm an anagram of ore thief. One small problem though as she seems to be missing an "h". Maybe this would be a better name for an anagram for her.  Cupid Stunt 
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          Killash Larz 
           
          
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          Edited by: Killash Larz on 28/04/2004 15:07:33
 
 
   Quote: Hmm an anagram of ore thief. One small problem though as she seems to be missing an "h". Maybe this would be a better name for an anagram for her.
 
 
 
   Quote: Cupid Stunt
 
 
  Actually you'll find thats called a spoonerism  
 
 
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          El Duderino 
           
          
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          Hi all ore thieving thrash, alt r not... Im being trained atm as a hunter, will hunt for free, and soon will b avail for n00bs to pass on KOS info to... We gonna have lotsa fun u low life thrash  
 
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          Grimster 
           
          
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            Originally by: El Duderino Hi all ore thieving thrash, alt r not... Im being trained atm as a hunter, will hunt for free, and soon will b avail for n00bs to pass on KOS info to... We gonna have lotsa fun u low life thrash  
 
 
 
  LOL! With the current way things work you'll have to find them outside of empire, and I think you'll find the vast majority operate inside empire.  Worth the Concord gank for nothing? And the sec hit? Nah, I'd withdraw the offer if I were you.
 
 
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          Aidart Tirani'Fa 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 17:24:00 -
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          Can I add Vogon Jeltz to this list? 
  Not only is he a thief...but his mouth begs to be smacked hard!
 
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          Khali Nephtys 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 23:20:00 -
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          Ore thieves they all need a good cruise missile enema, as Vogon discovered a couple of days ago in Pator.  
  Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
 
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          magickangaroo 
           
          
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          the thing i dont like abou tore thiefs are that they use the systems in place to protect them selves. when really the miners should be protected from them. i understand why they do it. and i accept it as part of the game but i hope in future they work out a system to keep them away from securer space. ie 0.5 and up so as not to disourage the miners, without hoom theyd have to get of there arse and do the hard work.
  magick
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          Khali Nephtys 
           
          
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          I am and always have been happy to accept the risk of ore thieves, if you use unsecure cans then having ore stolen is an accepted risk.
   However there are two points that really gall me about ore thieves. Firstly they seem to have this huge problem with accepting that they are stealing. "blah blah blah jettison means you don't want it etc etc etc" 
   I have said it before and I will say it again, stop trying to argue semantics, and accept that it's about intent. The miners intent is to retrieve that ore and refine it after all it was their time that was put into mining it. The ore thiefs intent is to go around looking for ore in unsecure cans and to take it, knowing full well that the ore belongs ( in the miners eyes at least) to the miner.
   My second point with ore thieves is that they invariably are in npc corps, so are not subject to facing war declarations from their victims. If you had the guts to make a corp and go around thieving ore I would have a modicom of respect for you. I would also badger my CEO until he warred you and I would share the joys of my party trick the cruise missile enema with you at every opportunity.
   To sum it up if you expect miners to accept the risk of you taking ore from unsecure cans, then you should also make yourselves available for war invites from those self same miners should they choose to exact some payback. Until then I have no respect for your kind and view you as cravens.
  Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
 
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          magickangaroo 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.28 23:53:00 -
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          well said
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          Shaemell Buttleson 
           
          
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          Khali you summed it up well. They are a bunch of craven scum who hide themselves behind mummy concordes skirts. They could at least make a corp dedicated to it as was suggested. That way even if war is declared you could turn up in a battleship to steal it.
  As for making secure cans redundant if they make it an offence to rob jettisoned cans, what utter b4llsh1t as the reasoning behind them in the first place is to 1: secure them so they don't get destroyed and 2: so you can leave other valuble stuff as well as ore in it.
  Freetoffi you are right you do survive a kestrel firing cruise. I am reasonably impressed. I'll be even more impressed when you survive a caracal doing the same thing loaded with torps though.  
 
 
 
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          Digital 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.29 03:08:00 -
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            Originally by: ZURAN 666
   Originally by: Siddy
   Originally by: Digital I don't thief it, I just ransom it  
  If you don't pay the can goes boom  
 
 
 
  U can kill the Player who shoots at ur can ...
  how do i know? - i shooted ore killes in my apoch (drones are him)
 
 
  Don't you mean Shot and Killers lol Nothing wrong with asking a little bit of money to get your ore back call it a tax lol
 
 
  LOL well that is right, that does seem to happen from time to time :P ____________________
 
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          FreeTofi 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.29 11:18:00 -
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            Quote: To sum it up if you expect miners to accept the risk of you taking ore from unsecure cans, then you should also make yourselves available for war invites from those self same miners should they choose to exact some payback. Until then I have no respect for your kind and view you as cravens.
 
 
  eeerrrrrrr u take the risk, as u say. How come that means u can declare war on us?  
  Very odd.
  Oh and Thx Shae, looking forward to your Torps  
 
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          Vogon 
           
          
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            Originally by: Khali Nephtys Ore thieves they all need a good cruise missile enema, as Vogon discovered a couple of days ago in Pator.  
 
 
  I must of missed that one....I honestly have no recollection...did you dream it? 
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          Bad Harlequin 
           
          
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          Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 29/04/2004 13:45:01
   Originally by: Orethief One To Tenaj by the way, i also get this message from my prey a lot when i steal ore "I know people at high places, you will be hunted down"
  so dont try to come scare me with your standings with so and so corp, blah blah blah
 
  well you certinaly help debunk the theory that ore thieves are all moronic muppets  
   Originally by: Digital I don't thief it, I just ransom it  
  If you don't pay the can goes boom  
 
  another anagram of Ore Thief is FEE OR HIT
  
  
   Originally by: Grimster Named and shamed? Pffft!
  Should be named and praised IMHO.
  Let 'em make their ISK the way they do - just because they choose not to go through the drudgery of actually chopping the rocks and you're easy enough to mine in empire into jet cans, live with it or mine <0.5
  It's a risk you take like any other.
 
 
  Like any other - EXCEPT the thieves themselves. You keep glossing over that bit.
  So, your expert advice is - the newbie who can't use a secure can should either subsidise your griefing in > .5, where he can't stop you from stealing from him, or he should go to < .4, where he can't stop you from killing him?
  End yourself.
   Originally by: ZURAN 666 Don't you mean Shot and Killers lol Nothing wrong with asking a little bit of money to get your ore back call it a tax lol
 
  don't you lol mean to lol add some punctuation lol in there somewhere lol?
  
  Ahem. Now that i'm done chainspawning posts, something lighter:
  Anagrams for "Ore Thief:"
  FEE OR HIT OH, IT FREE THEIR FOE THE IRE OF
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  REFIT HOE HOE, I FRET which just made me giggle a lot  
  from the Internet Anagram Engine / I, Rearrangement Servant
 
 
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          cypriss 
           
          
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        Posted - 2004.04.29 15:33:00 -
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            Quote: Orethief One... did you miss the irony and sarcasm part? Tenaj is an orethief.... as simple as that.... got a problem with that ? You like any1 else can take up any and all grievences towards Tenaj, in 0.0 with me or Playmate bunny, now stfu you alt muppet
 
  this could have all been avoided by using the sacasm smiley   since you can't use your tone of voice or expression, how is anyone going to know you are being sarcastic. i was thinking that tenaj was anti thievery as well untill he mentioned the sarcasm. and if i wasn't english i may not know wht sarcasm meant. pls use your smilies.  
 
   Quote: the thing i dont like abou tore thiefs are that they use the systems in place to protect them selves. when really the miners should be protected from them. i understand why they do it. and i accept it as part of the game but i hope in future they work out a system to keep them away from securer space. ie 0.5 and up so as not to disourage the miners, without hoom theyd have to get of there arse and do the hard work.
 
  im sorry but i think the same for the strip miners. how can i effectively hunt for miners and gain some ransom when they hide in secure space? wht about my hard work?   all kidding aside, there are PLENTY of posts suggesting that anything above a frigate should not be able to mine in secure space. so ore thieves are just keeping the balance imo. mine in less than 0.5 space if ore thives concern you, then you can deal with them effectively.
 
 
 
   Quote:  My second point with ore thieves is that they invariably are in npc corps, so are not subject to facing war declarations from their victims. If you had the guts to make a corp and go around thieving ore I would have a modicom of respect for you. I would also badger my CEO until he warred you and I would share the joys of my party trick the cruise missile enema with you at every opportunity.
 
  i think you would find that you would recieve the brunt end of the cruise missile. your CEO would be smart not to declare war on an ore thief's corp because you have to remember, you'd be in a belt with your mining lasers on, and the corp you are at war with (who aren't miners) would come in with their guns blazing.
  i don't think too many ore thieves steal from newbs. why would they? how much ore could you get from a frig mining with a baasic miner?
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            Originally by: cypriss i think you would find that you would recieve the brunt end of the cruise missile. your CEO would be smart not to declare war on an ore thief's corp because you have to remember, you'd be in a belt with your mining lasers on, and the corp you are at war with (who aren't miners) would come in with their guns blazing.
 
 
  sooo... you'd advocate no chance at all over half a chance? More to the point, the newbie miners could actually HIRE PROTECTION. Economy, interaction, bodyguards, etc.... the more players can mix it up in various ways the better. Hire mercs, mercs declare. Thieves arrive, mercs open fire, thiefscum scurry off to find easier prey, more mercs get hired, some mercs suck and the sometimes the thieves win, everybody's happeh  
 
   Quote: i don't think too many ore thieves steal from newbs. why would they?
 
  you've been reading THIS thread, right?  
 
 
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          Here is another one to shoot onsight: FINALHELLSPAWN. Stealing ore today in Ghesis. 
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