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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.04.28 15:48:00 -
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 Originally by: The End
the first night we went up to D7- it was about 9v9. we then went to take over the station. all of rkk went to a safe spot. in about an hour you see local jump from 20 to like 45.
we stayed an fought. doing hit and run tatics all night long.
Again, this is simply not true.
We were in local with 7 RKK BS and 1 friendly BS, we also had 4 frigates.
12 Enemy BS entered local.
I put the call out to our friends in c0d and our friends in FU.
They were over 2 hours out, so while the enemy forces attempted to take over the station, we attempted to run harrasment until our reinforcements arrived.
As well you know, we then fought for two hours solid in a series of engagements where we stopped you taking the station until the last 5 minutes before our reinforcements arrived.
In those two hours, you destroyed 3 frigates of ours and we destroyed 95% of your drones.
Once our reinforcements arrived, we killed the following ships:
Stardog - Scorpion
Raymore - Scorpion
Havocide - Battleship (the FU forces ganked in record time - including a 1400 hit of over 1700 on him ;)
Havocide - Punisher
Stardog - Frigate
Friendly forces lost were:
1 c0d armageddon (forgot his name)
5 frigates
2 other ships were destroyed by the PA and have since been recompensated.
You did indeed then stay and do hit and run tactics all night. The SAME thing we had done to you when we were outnumbered.
If you are in anyway confused about what happened during any of those fights then speak with your leader that evening, Jhered Stern of Orcus. He was there all evening and seemed to know the score.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Visser
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Posted - 2004.04.28 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Visser on 28/04/2004 16:26:47
http://eve.arpstorm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=633
so how many of your ships were lost?
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.04.28 15:55:00 -
[93]
Originally by: darth solo
ermmmm, the only thing this proves is that FU attacked u guys with less ships.... man ur strange... u said that u had less ships against CELES/RKK in the convo, does that make it true?. Ill say it again, ur strange.
In fact it is true. I sat with Havocide and 3 others one jump away from d7 while you guys had 21 people in local. It wasn't until about 30 mins later that we linked up a few jumps back with the ORCUS people and took down Shadowthrone. You had every opportunity to engage us when we had 5 ships, and we would have fought, as we always do. In fact we were WAITING for you to jump in to us with your 21 people.
But whatever, keep the counter-propaganda rolling.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:02:00 -
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Ok m'luv.
RKK etc sat in D7...Thats a station system right? So, the prize in question is in the system they occupy.
There you are (Cao Cao etc) sat 1 system away...Thats the system *without* the station in.....
Other than to score a couple of kills for the sake of killing...RKK/CELES should really, really jump and attack you....why?
The question is from a tactical point of view by the way......Whay would they jump out of a system which contains something of value to score a couple of kills?
Tactically important? (Not convinced...a nice bonus but not convinced)
Boredom? (Not utterly sure on this but i suspect RKK?CELES etc are pretty good at not allowing this to become a motivation)
I'd like to hear (genuinely) a good, solid reason why they should have come to get you.
Ball is in your court chaps and chap-esses
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
Star Fraction
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Rath Amon on 28/04/2004 16:40:49
Originally by: Cao Cao
You had every opportunity to engage us when we had 5 ships, and we would have fought, as we always do. In fact we were WAITING for you to jump in to us with your 21 people.
But whatever, keep the counter-propaganda rolling.
cao cao, you talk some sh*te 
i was scouting you "guys" in h-w, you had 8 bs's hugging the d7 gate, we had 10 on the other side, if we had jumped in, you would have jumped to d7...
soon as you warped from the gate, our guys gave chase..
it was you guys who did not want to engage by jumping into d-7, it was you guys who ran to your reinforcements..
and once you got there, you start squeeling in local like a little kid on amphetamines how "uber" you are.
so answer me this uber boy, why did you not jump into d7 ?
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:58:00 -
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You know, I gotta say..
It's WAR! Who friggin cares what tactics are used?
1 question... DID YOU WIN?
Now I got a headache...
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:59:00 -
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Well this is all nice n stuff 
Did I hear someone mention that Fraps had been involved??? If so..... VIDS OR STFU 
j/k about the STFU bit 
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SILK EXIDE
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Posted - 2004.04.28 17:44:00 -
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Well it seems to me that after such an excellent battle that lasted nearly 2hrs not 1, people have to do their best to lose the respect they deserve from fighting in such a battle by blatant lying and unnecessary one upmanship.
I was there as were 2 others from CoD to fight FE/CA with the allied forces.
Let me put some truth and honour back into this thread..
1. The battle was amazing
2. All who fought did so bravely
3. FU/RKK/Celest/CoD forces outnumbered FE/CA but not 2:1more like 3:2
4. Losses as yet to be confirmed were alot heavier on the FE/CA side than they admit
5. FE/CA are to be respected for their ability to stand their ground when out numbered.
6. Ship losses should not just be counted as BS losses, frigs-interceptors-cruisers are effective in fleet combat and their loss should be acknowledged as such.
7. The maddest dude there was Phonix who fought the main battle with 12% structure or something after the first small skirmish in the previous system
8. The hardware upgrade seems to have improved large scale fleet battle lag problems
On a personal note I hate waiting for these battles to start it sometimes takes hours.
Then afterwards I find those that stray from the facts and post what they dreamt happened in a disturbed sleep purile and deserving of every flame they get.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.04.28 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Notferr on 28/04/2004 17:49:56
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
All the respect CA earned from me in the last few months (which wasn't that much) has dissappeared again, cause you guys singlehandedly degraded your alliance to a smacktalking, immature bunch of Carebears.
I love it!
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.28 17:51:00 -
[100]
Again, please keep the replies respectful and friendly.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.04.28 17:55:00 -
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Silk has it more or less completely right, all I would add is that I think there are actually two sides the to FE/CA/Oracles coming out. There is a pretty good-natured, fun, professional side that I think RKK and allies have got used to fighting this last month, and there is a rather less mature and nastier side that we saw here after the glorious had actually ended.
All this willy-waggling about numbers and who jumps into who is rubbish. As is attempting to divide or demean an enemy that has clearly stood the test of time.
I spent a couple of hours in a good natured series of frigate duels this afternoon in P3 with the new face of the FE(Oracles) and by and large it was respectful and friendly. What seems a shame to me is that sometimes the bitter old guard of the FE rise to fill the forums with smack and rubbish to diminish any actual fighting respect that the two sides *who have been actually doing* the fighting have gained.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 18:47:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 28/04/2004 18:49:41
Originally by: Isiana
I need a new sig i think
no you don't 
most amusing part of this thread really... except the 'harder with age' which everyone steadfastly refused to let interrupt the flaming and trolling
so i'm just going for an old-fashioned hijacking instead, but i'll settle for derailment 
Originally by: Jade Constantine
I just don't understand all this nonsense goading talk that goes on. Honestly, when someone suggests on the main forum that ccp should instigate a "consensual" war system (both sides have to agree to fight) we are all (rightly) up in arms and saying what a total load of rubbish that would be.
But here we have an actual war, with hostile fleets and manouver and tactics and bold advances and clever retreats and everything, and what whats the apparent main beef?
That people didn't "consent" to some kind of artificial even numbers slugfest for the mutual ego-stroking of all concerned.
What on earth!
might be the truest bestest thing you've ever said. Bang-on.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
PS Cao Cao, was disclosing a private chatlog from Phonix (presumably without his permission) your best shot at driving a wedge between FU and RKK/Celest?
Thats a class act Cao Cao.
See there, now you've gone and ruined it. Refer to your earlier post about war, fair fights, even numbers, etc., and acknowlege the fact that no matter how stupid-smacky, or cordial-friendly, any convo with an enemy is, it is a CONVO WITH AN ENEMY, and, as in life, if you don't want what you say to come bite you in the ass later, then watch what you say. Otherwise you've no one to blame but yourself.
Again, refer to Jade's earlier excellent post on the nature of WAR. If this silly post is, as you seem to worry, successful at "driving a wedge," doesn't say much about your supposed unity does it? And the PsychOut will have succeeded.
There Is No Safe Space. Least of all in convos you KNOW are logged. Too late to cry foul now!
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
It is not because CA thinks every should play when they play, mostly US timezones
...
You do realise that we Europeans do work???
you also post some seriously warped, untrue nonsequitir ****. kindly take your slurs and **** right off, thanks.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Havocide
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Posted - 2004.04.28 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Havocide on 28/04/2004 21:03:08
Well thank you RKK/JERIC/CELEST etc whoever was there in the earlier part of the night.
You proved that there was nothing to stay in this game for, i log on, see a nasty blob, get a force go strike at it... what happens, toulak and co hit the safe points.
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.04.28 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Miso
Darth, in regards to PvP - those that can do, those that can't, talk about it.
I notice F-E talk alot...
I notice you talk even more than F-E...
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:01:00 -
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Carebear|Me
Alts |
Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:02:00 -
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BISCUITS!!!
ANYONE KNOW WHERE THEY LEFT THE HANDTOWELS?
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:06:00 -
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I want some cake.
Cao
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:14:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Marichek
Well, three brave CELES pilots decided to fight when THEY wanted to and quickly lost an apoc and a raven in P3EN.
So, again, I concede...maybe you should stick to working 16 hours per day and sending 20 ships to meet 8.
I'm just happy to expell some ammo at 5am, even though i have to be up at 7 am.
Can u clarify the pilots names please? nothing on our loss board about this. We confirm 1 BS loss today Lyseburg [Celes] tempest and we lost a BB. An apoc got put into 35% structure DA Boggieman but got away.
Boggies claiming they got your megathron Marichek, earlier. It hasn't been posted on on our kill board yet so im not sure i wasnt there.
Anyway do we have to hear on the forum about everytime u fire your guns marichek?
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:30:00 -
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Test 1,2,3
Do my posts appear on the forums?
Keep it friendly people, pretty pretty pleaaassee?
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Notferr
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Notferr on 28/04/2004 20:38:23
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Test 1,2,3
Do my posts appear on the forums?
Keep it friendly people, pretty pretty pleaaassee?
Eris, whatcha doing this weekend? Can I have your phone number?
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:59:00 -
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Stay back! shes mine already
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.04.28 22:12:00 -
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Hmm...
I WAS STCK DOING MY HOME WORK WHILE ALL THIS WAS GOING ON!
Although I must say... jolly good show chaps!
Jhered Out!
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.04.28 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowthrone
Originally by: Marichek
Well, three brave CELES pilots decided to fight when THEY wanted to and quickly lost an apoc and a raven in P3EN.
So, again, I concede...maybe you should stick to working 16 hours per day and sending 20 ships to meet 8.
I'm just happy to expell some ammo at 5am, even though i have to be up at 7 am.
Can u clarify the pilots names please? nothing on our loss board about this. We confirm 1 BS loss today Lyseburg [Celes] tempest and we lost a BB. An apoc got put into 35% structure DA Boggieman but got away.
Boggies claiming they got your megathron Marichek, earlier. It hasn't been posted on on our kill board yet so im not sure i wasnt there.
Anyway do we have to hear on the forum about everytime u fire your guns marichek?
Yes, my bad, there was a BB and the Tempest from CELES that went down...and also the Apoc went down...we have his tachyons/megabeams, but i forgot what corp it was. The CELES raven had a bit of damage, but my eyes had glazed over from the fact that the sun was rising when that all happened.
And no, please dont be so childish as to think that I post every time my guns go off. But this engagement with so few CELES seemd much too ironic to not post directly after Darth Solo had posted. I couldn't help it.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
crice
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Posted - 2004.04.28 23:28:00 -
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So I miss the fun.  Damn business trip.
Hope you all had fun.
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Artika
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Posted - 2004.04.28 23:48:00 -
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WOW hahaha WOW again......you people are wwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyy to nuts hahahahaha
Artika
"No matter how good she looks, some guy is sick and tired of putting up with her crap" |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.04.28 23:56:00 -
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See there, now you've gone and ruined it. Refer to your earlier post about war, fair fights, even numbers, etc., and acknowlege the fact that no matter how stupid-smacky, or cordial-friendly, any convo with an enemy is, it is a CONVO WITH AN ENEMY, and, as in life, if you don't want what you say to come bite you in the ass later, then watch what you say. Otherwise you've no one to blame but yourself. Again, refer to Jade's earlier excellent post on the nature of WAR. If this silly post is, as you seem to worry, successful at "driving a wedge," doesn't say much about your supposed unity does it? And the PsychOut will have succeeded. There Is No Safe Space. Least of all in convos you KNOW are logged. Too late to cry foul now!
I think you misunderstand me Harlequin, I don't mind Cao Cao posting a private chat log for psychological warfare purposes. In fact I am kinda glad he did. For my counter psyops purposes it shows that he is a untrustworthy fellow that can't keep matters in confidence. Thats pretty significantly useful in categorising his influence as malignant.
I'm not crying "no-fair" ... I am saying (IC) "what a bounder, see, its right and just we are bashing his corp in the war".
Quite a difference I think you will agree.
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.04.29 00:20:00 -
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Jade uses big words that make my head hurt...
PS- Decided not to go b/c i was sure it would be another one of those nonfights.... guess i was wrong...
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RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2004.04.29 00:33:00 -
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CA of all people have NO right to talk about outnumbering pilots. We had 3 they had 11...we brought 5 they brought 18...
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