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Mskpath3
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Posted - 2008.05.07 05:53:00 -
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Got me a farmer infestation. Mostly of the cloaky Raven kind. But every once in a while, one of them will actually attack me with a Drake (wtf?). Haven't had much success being able to catch them. Was wondering what a good 2 man team setup would be for catching these guys? |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 06:31:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 07/05/2008 06:32:21
Fit a cyno (seriously)
engaging farmer ravens will result in this
One held down 6 more warp in
Hmm better yet be in a heavy interdictor and cyno in some firepower |
ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:06:00 -
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Short of a Cyno, maybe a 2-man dual-repping BS sniper gang? This is something I'm trying out myself, don't take my word that it works.
Happy Hunting anyways. 
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Vodun
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 07/05/2008 06:32:21
Fit a cyno (seriously)
engaging farmer ravens will result in this
One held down 6 more warp in
Hmm better yet be in a heavy interdictor and cyno in some firepower
I really hope you're joking. That's the type of mentality that's currently wrong with EVE. "bring a cyno and hot drop on them".
Yeah, theres a chance that if you engage them, they'll bring friends, but isn't that what you want - a fight?
Imo, if you're looking at strictly a (2)man gang, and you're going after raven farmers, then there are quite a few ways you could go;
Fun for me would be a heavy dictor and a hac.
You could also use a couple command ships.
Also, a couple BS of your own. You could remote rep them and have a small remote rep tank. Could be a good fight if he brings some friends.
There are lots of different options you could use. Personally, I like fast agile gangs of hacs (doesn't have to be nano either). Hacs can take down BS rather quickly and either continue engaging (if he brings friends), or get out quick afterwards.
I would seriously _not_ bring a cyno and hot drop people. That's pretty lame imo. To each their own though.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vodun
pretty lame
They are dirty mindless rang-rang farmers, who gives a toss about what you or I consider lame. They are a scourge that need be wiped from the earth and if a doomsday blast is what you happen to have on hand then why not have a go.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vodun
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 07/05/2008 06:32:21
Fit a cyno (seriously)
engaging farmer ravens will result in this
One held down 6 more warp in
Hmm better yet be in a heavy interdictor and cyno in some firepower
I really hope you're joking. That's the type of mentality that's currently wrong with EVE. "bring a cyno and hot drop on them".
Yeah, theres a chance that if you engage them, they'll bring friends, but isn't that what you want - a fight?
Imo, if you're looking at strictly a (2)man gang, and you're going after raven farmers, then there are quite a few ways you could go;
Fun for me would be a heavy dictor and a hac.
You could also use a couple command ships.
Also, a couple BS of your own. You could remote rep them and have a small remote rep tank. Could be a good fight if he brings some friends.
There are lots of different options you could use. Personally, I like fast agile gangs of hacs (doesn't have to be nano either). Hacs can take down BS rather quickly and either continue engaging (if he brings friends), or get out quick afterwards.
I would seriously _not_ bring a cyno and hot drop people. That's pretty lame imo. To each their own though.
heres why you bring the cyno
Farmers rat in groups (where I have seen them ****in huge groups with scouts everywhere) so you jump in 5 guys you wont get a fight 1 guy with a cyno will get the fight.
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Scrutt5
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.05.08 10:13:00 -
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Here's why you dont listen to Marcus
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Cruthensis
Gallente
Farmer Killers
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.05.08 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vodun
I would seriously _not_ bring a cyno and hot drop people. That's pretty lame imo. To each their own though.
Each to their own indeed. The point when fighting ISK farmers is to kill them, no matter what. If hot dropping a carrier on the grid is what's needed - HOT DROP A CARRIER ON THE GRID.
Dead ISK farmer CNRs make the game better for all of us. No tactic is too 'lame'.
1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1. |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Scrutt5
Here's why you dont listen to Marcus
Linkage
funfact I don't post killmails
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cruthensis
Originally by: Vodun
I would seriously _not_ bring a cyno and hot drop people. That's pretty lame imo. To each their own though.
Each to their own indeed. The point when fighting ISK farmers is to kill them, no matter what. If hot dropping a carrier on the grid is what's needed - HOT DROP A CARRIER ON THE GRID.
Dead ISK farmer CNRs make the game better for all of us. No tactic is too 'lame'.
There are no raven navy issues in 0.0
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Agent Li
Caldari
Galactic Defence Consortium
BLACKHAWK FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:27:00 -
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I think this is what is making Eve unfun on occasion.
I don't have access to a carrier (nor can I fly one).
I can probably barely fly a command ship in about two months.
Right now, someone good shows up in a command ship in low sec, and all we can do is sit and watch him pop us (even if we attack him in a group).
Hearing that the solution to all problems is a carrier or a gang of command ships is laughable and disheartening all at the same time.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Li
I think this is what is making Eve unfun on occasion.
I don't have access to a carrier (nor can I fly one).
I can probably barely fly a command ship in about two months.
Right now, someone good shows up in a command ship in low sec, and all we can do is sit and watch him pop us (even if we attack him in a group).
Hearing that the solution to all problems is a carrier or a gang of command ships is laughable and disheartening all at the same time.
Unless you can get some mad hax going and nerf local you aren't getting a gang on any farmer op so capship****ging is the way to go
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Agent Li
Caldari
Galactic Defence Consortium
BLACKHAWK FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.05.08 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Unless you can get some mad hax going and nerf local you aren't getting a gang on any farmer op so capship****ging is the way to go
Hardly.
There are places, like the also-mentioned Mamet, where a corp that purports to be anti-pirate hangs out.
The farmers obviously have no problem with them being around in local, so all you have to do is let the farmers get used to your presence (maybe mine some veld for a week to get them used to seeing you around).
Of course, this may not work if you're a famous pirate, but that's what alts are for.
Social engineering, mate.
Now, given that I can get a group onto some farmers, what should I be flying? And don't say carrier or command ship.
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Faife
Noctiscion
Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.08 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 08/05/2008 17:32:15
Originally by: Agent Li
Right now, someone good shows up in a command ship in low sec, and all we can do is sit and watch him pop us (even if we attack him in a group).
don't engage unless you're going to win. immediately disengage if you're in doubt or surprised.
command ships are not that hard to kill, maybe except a full mad passive nighthawk, but that thing wont have tackle+point on it.
and pick a spot with poorer pirates.
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CogInTheWheel
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Posted - 2008.05.08 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Vodun
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 07/05/2008 06:32:21
Fit a cyno (seriously)
engaging farmer ravens will result in this
One held down 6 more warp in
Hmm better yet be in a heavy interdictor and cyno in some firepower
I really hope you're joking. That's the type of mentality that's currently wrong with EVE. "bring a cyno and hot drop on them".
Yeah, theres a chance that if you engage them, they'll bring friends, but isn't that what you want - a fight?
Farmers seem very disorganized here in Eve. Back when I played Lin2, the farmers had some of the best pvpers in the game. They even went so far as to organize alliances and lock down boss spawns and siege castles.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Li
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Unless you can get some mad hax going and nerf local you aren't getting a gang on any farmer op so capship****ging is the way to go
Hardly.
There are places, like the also-mentioned Mamet, where a corp that purports to be anti-pirate hangs out.
The farmers obviously have no problem with them being around in local, so all you have to do is let the farmers get used to your presence (maybe mine some veld for a week to get them used to seeing you around).
Of course, this may not work if you're a famous pirate, but that's what alts are for.
Social engineering, mate.
Now, given that I can get a group onto some farmers, what should I be flying? And don't say carrier or command ship.
are there ravens en masse in mamet? I thought mamet was all haulers
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.09 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Li
There are places, like the also-mentioned Mamet, where a corp that purports to be anti-pirate hangs out.
The farmers obviously have no problem with them being around in local, so all you have to do is let the farmers get used to your presence (maybe mine some veld for a week to get them used to seeing you around).
Because CVA is obviously going to ignore your criminally flagged ship outside the station.
Originally by: Bloody Puppy
because it's a good game
because it's a good game
because it's a good gameeeeee
ccp gonna nerf it 
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Scrutt5
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.05.09 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Scrutt5
Here's why you dont listen to Marcus
Linkage
funfact I don't post killmails
As I understand it, you dont have to post killmails anymore they are taken directly from eve and uploaded to Battleclinic.
Is this correct guys, mine seem to ?
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Uzuki Shootmenow
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Posted - 2008.05.09 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mskpath3
Got me a farmer infestation. Mostly of the cloaky Raven kind. But every once in a while, one of them will actually attack me with a Drake (wtf?). Haven't had much success being able to catch them. Was wondering what a good 2 man team setup would be for catching these guys?
get 1 falcon, 1 damage ship. wait. they will die
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Adelorae24
Caldari
Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:54:00 -
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I'm sorry but if we're talking about 7 BS's vs. 1 then I'd say a hotdrop is perfectly in order. They decided to try for the gank with overhwelming force then they deserve to see what overwhelming force really is. Plus they're farmers so the normal gentlemens rules of combat don't really apply.
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Amarr
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.05.09 21:06:00 -
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I would use a heavy dictor/HAC team. Dictor goes in first and locks one down, dictor should be setup to tank one way or another. I know of a guy who likes to solo battleships while taking station fire in his, so a farmer raven shouldn't be tough to deal with 
Then the gank fit HAC flys in and goes to town. Within a minute you should be looking at "farmer 103930's Raven Wreck"
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