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Mia Neffzen
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:00:00 -
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Hello :)
Another suggestion, would it not be good that BPC shows up as a green icon instead of a blue so it will be alot easier to separeted them from the BPO, should not be too much of a problem to implant them :)
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Amiorr
Gallente
Massive Productions
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:04:00 -
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J909
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:07:00 -
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omg yes please, amount of time wasted going through 100's of bpc's to find bpo's is really annoying.
Excellent idea and surely easy to change!?
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated
The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:16:00 -
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/signed raised to the power N.
Mining, Hacking and Archeology Mini Games
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JanSVK
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:28:00 -
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:43:00 -
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It is currently not possible to give BPOs and BPCs a different icon. They are the same item. Code and database limits make this impossible. IIRC the main problem is that no transparent layers can be added to UI symbols. But the UI code is planned to get rewritten. So they will probably either add a mult-icon capability or a transparent layer to the icon display for informative variations.
A time frame for those UI code changes was not announced.
It'll happen, EvEntually
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Rach NiKunni
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Mia Neffzen
Hello :)
Another suggestion, would it not be good that BPC shows up as a green icon instead of a blue so it will be alot easier to separeted them from the BPO, should not be too much of a problem to implant them :)
Yeah or even a little corner with "C" in it, much the same way as tech II items have an "II" in the corner.
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Reven Cordelle
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Posted - 2008.05.09 13:01:00 -
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Makes perfect sense really.
I bet someone will go "OMGZ Blueprint Copies arent BLOO, THEYZ GREEN. NERF!!!?1222"
Guaranteed.
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Silvana Kor'ah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.09 13:06:00 -
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yes!
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Doc Iridium
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:46:00 -
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.05.09 16:53:00 -
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Are you all new to the game since this year?
It's been suggested 2000 times and CCP has said repeatedly it's not going to happen.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Doc Iridium
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Are you all new to the game since this year?
It's been suggested 2000 times and CCP has said repeatedly it's not going to happen.
The answer to that is to keep telling CCP that you want the change. It's not like we are asking for soemthing that any sane game designer wouldn't have included in the game from the start 
Heck / they don't even need to use a different color. Cut the top right corner off the BP image if the BP isn't infinite. Dogeared BP's are copies, whole BP's are originals, and they all use the same graphic.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 09/05/2008 17:39:43
Originally by: Doc Iridium
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Are you all new to the game since this year?
It's been suggested 2000 times and CCP has said repeatedly it's not going to happen.
The answer to that is to keep telling CCP that you want the change. It's not like we are asking for soemthing that any sane game designer wouldn't have included in the game from the start
Heck / they don't even need to use a different color. Cut the top right corner off the BP image if the BP isn't infinite. Dogeared BP's are copies, whole BP's are originals, and they all use the same graphic.
They didn't say that they wouldn't do it, they said they couldn't.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Matthew
Caldari
BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Iridium
Heck / they don't even need to use a different color. Cut the top right corner off the BP image if the BP isn't infinite. Dogeared BP's are copies, whole BP's are originals, and they all use the same graphic.
The problem isn't changing the colour, or putting a dogear, or even a big flashing "this is a copy" banner on them. The problem is telling which are copies in the first place - if you don't know that, you don't know which ones to colour.
As far as the inventory system is concerned, there is no difference between a copy and an original. It's the same Item Type, it's just a "blueprint". The difference comes in the individual item properties.
Of course, looking up a single item's properties is no problem - that's what "show info" does.
Looking it up for a whole pile of blueprints is feasible, provided it's not going to be loaded that often (e.g. the S&I blueprint screens - note the 5 minute caching).
Looking it up for a whole pile of blueprints with the frequency that hangars are refreshed would generate too much load - it would simply cripple the server.
However, picking copies out is a pain, and a simpler option would be nice. So why not make use of the middle ground where the retrieval is a possibility. This could be done by making items in the blueprints tab of the S&I sheet draggable in the same way that items are draggable in the assets window.
We're far more likely to get that, than we are to get a complete rework of the inventory system to allow different coloured icons on copies.
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Zirconium Blade
Ass Pounding Space Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.05.09 18:41:00 -
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I support Greenprints.
Thats my new bumpersticker.
Also, (unrelated) I would like to be able to put bumperstickers on my ships.
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Cheopis
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.09 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: Doc Iridium
Heck / they don't even need to use a different color. Cut the top right corner off the BP image if the BP isn't infinite. Dogeared BP's are copies, whole BP's are originals, and they all use the same graphic.
The problem isn't changing the colour, or putting a dogear, or even a big flashing "this is a copy" banner on them. The problem is telling which are copies in the first place - if you don't know that, you don't know which ones to colour.
As far as the inventory system is concerned, there is no difference between a copy and an original. It's the same Item Type, it's just a "blueprint". The difference comes in the individual item properties.
Of course, looking up a single item's properties is no problem - that's what "show info" does.
Looking it up for a whole pile of blueprints is feasible, provided it's not going to be loaded that often (e.g. the S&I blueprint screens - note the 5 minute caching).
Looking it up for a whole pile of blueprints with the frequency that hangars are refreshed would generate too much load - it would simply cripple the server.
However, picking copies out is a pain, and a simpler option would be nice. So why not make use of the middle ground where the retrieval is a possibility. This could be done by making items in the blueprints tab of the S&I sheet draggable in the same way that items are draggable in the assets window.
We're far more likely to get that, than we are to get a complete rework of the inventory system to allow different coloured icons on copies.
Then the solution is simple, and obvious. Blueprint books. Create two new containers. One can only hold BPO's, the other can only hold BPC's. Putting blueprints into them is a slow, but automated procedure, like unlocking items in a secure can - but still much faster than a person can do it.
You select a whole stack of blueprints, mixed copies and originals, and drop into either the BPC book or the BPO book. Anything that won't go in isn't moved.
The BOOKS are colored different colors :)
Maybe you could introduce different booktypes for modules, ships, ammunition, t1 vs t2, whatever, but I'd be happy with just BPO vs BPC.
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