Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Angry Brother
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 06:43:00 -
[1] - Quote
Electric Shoe is claiming he makes 15 billion from incursion with his own tengu fleet alts without any risk. This needs to be addressed as it is an example of the imbalance regarding risk/reward.
here are his alts:
Tengu Tabby Tengu Talia Tengu Tasha Tengu Teagan Tengu Tequila Tengu Tex Tengu Tiffany Tengu Tracy Tengu Trianna
Corporation: Dynamic Space Industries |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5213
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 06:47:00 -
[2] - Quote
Your thread title needs to be toned down. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Ursula LeGuinn
EVE University Ivy League
146
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 06:51:00 -
[3] - Quote
The number of players running those nine accounts is completely irrelevant. CCP has allowed and even encouraged multiplay in EVE for years. Balancing the game around the very rare player who runs many accounts simultaneously would be silly, as would punishing such players. Also: They're paying for nine accounts.
In before "They pay for their accounts with ISK...." "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
Tarikan
Fusion Death Inc. Eternal Evocations
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 06:53:00 -
[4] - Quote
oh look someone's got 10 toons.
i agree, incursion payouts in high-sec are on par with null-sec ratting if not better, for lower risk, but for someone having 10 more toons/alts to play with is no unheard of.
If someone has gotten the time and dedication to make money in this game called eve, then they'll do it. |
Cipher Jones
341
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 07:20:00 -
[5] - Quote
Tarikan wrote:oh look someone's got 10 toons.
i agree, incursion payouts in high-sec are on par with null-sec ratting if not better, for lower risk, but for someone having 10 more toons/alts to play with is no unheard of.
If someone has gotten the time and dedication to make money in this game called eve, then they'll do it.
Nullsec must blow these days, c3's make more and plexing is on par with them (in hisec).
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
89
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 07:28:00 -
[6] - Quote
You realize this guy is CCP's ideal customer right? |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1023
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 08:11:00 -
[7] - Quote
Yea... this is silly topic.
Incursion mechanics and rewards as themselves are issue which should (and has been) discussed specially now after botting has become harder again and interest towards alternative isk sources will increase. This has nothing to do with amount of accounts you're willing to play and fund though.
10 accounts cost 60 billion isk/year. 10 tengus another 10 billion and training time many billions more. If you're willing to invest that to be able to run incursions alone.... you have earned your right.
Get |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3366
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 08:20:00 -
[8] - Quote
get rid of isk payouts replace with lp payouts only.
watch the price of every faction item bottom rocket.
|
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
101
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 08:23:00 -
[9] - Quote
Get rid of Incursions so the forums can get back to a new, Nerf Level 4 thread every two hrs. |
Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
50
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 11:18:00 -
[10] - Quote
Ursula LeGuinn wrote:The number of players running those nine accounts is completely irrelevant. CCP has allowed and even encouraged multiplay in EVE for years. Balancing the game around the very rare player who runs many accounts simultaneously would be silly, as would punishing such players. Also: They're paying for nine accounts.
In before "They pay for their accounts with ISK...."
Newsflash: 10 accounts is not a rare thing.
When you look at the income per character you can make with 1 and 10 there's great difference and it doesn't scale well with number fo accounts.
It's not a players fault though, reward mechanics just suck ass.
|
|
Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
50
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 11:19:00 -
[11] - Quote
Grey Stormshadow wrote:Yea... this is silly topic.
Incursion mechanics and rewards as themselves are issue which should (and has been) discussed specially now after botting has become harder again and interest towards alternative isk sources will increase. This has nothing to do with amount of accounts you're willing to play and fund though.
10 accounts cost 60 billion isk/year. 10 tengus another 10 billion and training time many billions more. If you're willing to invest that to be able to run incursions alone.... you have earned your right.
And I am sorry sir but you should do a bit more research on this before posting. :D
|
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1023
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 12:59:00 -
[12] - Quote
Jalmari Huitsikko wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Yea... this is silly topic.
Incursion mechanics and rewards as themselves are issue which should (and has been) discussed specially now after botting has become harder again and interest towards alternative isk sources will increase. This has nothing to do with amount of accounts you're willing to play and fund though.
10 accounts cost 60 billion isk/year. 10 tengus another 10 billion and training time many billions more. If you're willing to invest that to be able to run incursions alone.... you have earned your right. And I am sorry sir but you should do a bit more research on this before posting. :D Shut up or you will only get vegetarian Pizza today!111
Get |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
833
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 13:17:00 -
[13] - Quote
Ursula LeGuinn wrote:The number of players running those nine accounts is completely irrelevant. CCP has allowed and even encouraged multiplay in EVE for years. Balancing the game around the very rare player who runs many accounts simultaneously would be silly, as would punishing such players. Also: They're paying for nine accounts.
In before "They pay for their accounts with ISK...."
Yes it's really silly.
Silly at the point that whenever you pass the random gate where that dude playing 20+ accounts pops you before you can load correctly system environement. I'm very sure once this will happen to you several times you will begin to understand why it's bad
Actually as long as the guy is running incursions all alone and he's not ganking people in low sec gates, poping everything passing the null sec gate, wardec small corps for ages and use those 20+ accounts to harass someone, I'm ok. What harm is he doing to you when he's just killing NPC's and buying the uber shield boosters you farm with your alts in null sec so SU.
Also: incursions have nothing to do in high sec, they're defenitively too easy to complete and rats at gates should be like the firs one we had on SISI and not the joke they are. Even null gate incursion rats are weaker than those we had on SISI at the begining. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
157
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 14:00:00 -
[14] - Quote
I cloaked in to a few incursion sites once just to see what they were all about and a watched a bunch of Legions in a congo line eat up the site in a couple minutes and just warp to the next one. Most if not all where probably the same guy (that or their coordination is Blue Angels quality). If this guy has the skills, resources, and hardware to do it I can't really fault him. The speed at which he was cookie cutting these things was awesome from a play standpoint, but they do show that incursions are far too easy for someone(s) who can do this.
In my opinion there is too much isk and too many materials stockpiled in the game, there will need to be a major upset in the market before anything changes that. CCP balancing that against frustrated players is the risk they need to deal with, a sudden drop in subscriptions is something they do not need. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1715
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 14:07:00 -
[15] - Quote
LOL OP YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT? THIS GUY IS TAKING 10X THE RISK ALSO INCURSIONS ARE VERY RISKY AS THEY HAVE PVE SHIPS IN THEM THAT SHOOT AT YOU AND YOU COULD LOSE YOUR SHIPS THIS GUY COULD LOSE 10 TENGUS COULD YOU IMAGINE IF THAT HAPPENED TO YOU IT WOULD BE DEVATSATING ALSO ALL CAPS TITLES JUST PROVE YOU ARE TROLLING TRY AND TONE IT DOWN AND YOU MIGHT CONVINCE PEOPLE YOU HAVE A GENUINE CONCERN I GIVE YOU A 1/10 FAR TOO OBVIOUS AND NOT AMUSING ENOUGH TO RATE HIGHER SORRY (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
BuckStrider
Hardcore p0wnography
9
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 14:10:00 -
[16] - Quote
OP seems a bit jelly that he isn't running 10 accounts and making 15B.
Slacker! |
Cyprus Black
Cowboy Diplomacy
151
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 14:55:00 -
[17] - Quote
Cipher Jones wrote: Nullsec must blow these days
Yep, that about sums up nullsec. No isk comparisons needed. Nullsec simply blows.
Oh, and the OP is highly exaggerating. Follow my EvE blog at: http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1357
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 14:58:00 -
[18] - Quote
Tarikan wrote:oh look someone's got 10 toons.
i agree, incursion payouts in high-sec are on par with null-sec ratting if not better, for lower risk, but for someone having 10 more toons/alts to play with is no unheard of.
If someone has gotten the time and dedication to make money in this game called eve, then they'll do it.
forwarding your post.
|
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
14
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:00:00 -
[19] - Quote
Looks to me it's the Tengu that needs toning down.
Sorry, couldn't resist. |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
400
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:08:00 -
[20] - Quote
holy moly ive got to get me some of that.
Ill start training another 9 characters straight away
..... is this the correct responce OP
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
|
Ursula LeGuinn
EVE University Ivy League
148
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:20:00 -
[21] - Quote
Tanya Powers wrote:Yes it's really silly. Silly at the point that whenever you pass the random gate where that dude playing 20+ accounts pops you before you can load correctly system environement. I'm very sure once this will happen to you several times you will begin to understand why it's bad
I'm very sure I wouldn't. Actually, I'd prefer to run gates camped by one guy playing twenty accounts than by ten guys playing one account each GÇö a much more common occurrence. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
484
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:30:00 -
[22] - Quote
NEWSFLASH!
Incursions are not instance, you can amazingly COMPETE WITH HIM TO FINISH THE SITE FIRST (<-- OP didn't know that)
So, get 9 friends of your own and go run those sites. If you can't/won't/refuse then it is obviously your fault you are not raking in the isk because of your own belief against it yet there is nothing else stoping the other guy (or other guys) from making their own isk. Everyone wants isk, so either go get it yourself/ prevent someone else from getting it there by entertaining yourself / or STFU and uninstall EVE.
No, back to your regularly schedule forum trolls.
PS. Arttypocolypse and Tengu are known to cause heart burn as they do not mix.
P.P.S. Tears Extraction is not a registered traded mark, stop being a ***** OP
P.P.P.S That means, GO GANK HIM AND SCREW YOUR SEC STATUS |
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:30:00 -
[23] - Quote
Nerf how fast that guy presses F1! |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
484
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:36:00 -
[24] - Quote
You sound angry, brother.
You should get out of that starter corp, war dec this guy and blow up his stuff so you can feel better.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
46
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 16:37:00 -
[25] - Quote
Cipher Jones wrote:Tarikan wrote:oh look someone's got 10 toons.
i agree, incursion payouts in high-sec are on par with null-sec ratting if not better, for lower risk, but for someone having 10 more toons/alts to play with is no unheard of.
If someone has gotten the time and dedication to make money in this game called eve, then they'll do it. Nullsec must blow these days, c3's make more and plexing is on par with them (in hisec).
I'm not sure. I've been trying high sec incursions and every 4 minutes I make 9m isk in bounties and 1200 lps. There is almost no risk involved and the rats pose no real challenge.
The guy running 12 ships cannot be realistically doing it without some kind of third party help. It's just not practical otherwise, you'd be able to out contest him on every site he does.
There is one tool which is pretty much designed for what he's doing.
|
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity KONZERN
44
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 17:37:00 -
[26] - Quote
Don't forget he doesn't own the incursions. They're public sites. Put your own fleet together from your corp/alliance, follow him round and dilute his isk by shooting the Sanshas yourselves. If you don't like someone else creaming the cash, there are things you can do to prevent him within normal game mechanics. Sitting there and crying while watching him scoop the loot is not an option if you want sympathy. Get out there and fight for your share of the incursion bounty. My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying. |
Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries Bloodbound.
78
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 18:25:00 -
[27] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:LOL OP YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT? THIS GUY IS TAKING 10X THE RISK ALSO INCURSIONS ARE VERY RISKY AS THEY HAVE PVE SHIPS IN THEM THAT SHOOT AT YOU AND YOU COULD LOSE YOUR SHIPS THIS GUY COULD LOSE 10 TENGUS COULD YOU IMAGINE IF THAT HAPPENED TO YOU IT WOULD BE DEVATSATING ALSO ALL CAPS TITLES JUST PROVE YOU ARE TROLLING TRY AND TONE IT DOWN AND YOU MIGHT CONVINCE PEOPLE YOU HAVE A GENUINE CONCERN I GIVE YOU A 1/10 FAR TOO OBVIOUS AND NOT AMUSING ENOUGH TO RATE HIGHER SORRY
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the size of my screen.... I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 18:58:00 -
[28] - Quote
I have not done incursions, are they that easy that one person can manage the whole fight?
Is there no complexity or is it just pure numbers? |
Valei Khurelem
397
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 18:59:00 -
[29] - Quote
MY OPINION IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSES BECAUSE I TYPE IN CAPSLOCK AND WITH POOR GRAMMAR!!!!!111
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
LittleTerror
Day Unhappy Security Inc.
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 19:12:00 -
[30] - Quote
Ah another thread where someone hates the fact that another player is enjoying the game the way they want to enjoy it... |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |