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TSucka
Gallente Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:04:00 -
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Edited by: TSucka on 10/05/2008 08:08:57
Morris from AAA has stolen/scammed Tyrakk to get a Wyvern, the only problem I find is the clear double morale. It did amaze me that AAA could go as low as Tyrakk did, what is there to say? gj? It wouldn't have mattered if Tyrakk and Morris worked together the real victim in this case is Jim. Well AAA's Morris seems to start giving them a bad reputation, and should be on the thief list as well, as we already have the proof for it, Please post your opinion on this matter double crossing an innocent player.
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Armor Tank
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:05:00 -
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Nice thread, let me take a dump on it.
*aaaaaaaaaah*
Much better now.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:07:00 -
[3]
Don't forget to wipe.
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Naridos
Caldari IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:08:00 -
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Nice threads. I TAKEZ IT!!
Quote: You Know you play too much Eve when you get into a car crash and you run away as fast as you can so that you don't get podded.
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:13:00 -
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The AAA honour sullied, Morris must surely go into exile!
or you should stop posting
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flakeys
Manu Armata
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:14:00 -
[6]
Other news just came in , D2 disbanded ...
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Kriger
x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 08:31:30 yea this is old news - theres another thread about it somewhere (edit: oh u linked it). And yes.. AAA tried to pitch that they were merely scamming Ty when in fact it was obvious to all they doing the exact same thing he was by encouraging him to scam Jim, and then taking the mom for themselves and keeping it. Had they been any better, theyd have given the mom back to Jim. They didnt (afaik). So basicly.. AAA standars == TT standards. Who's surprised? No one. AAA should get a proper spindoctor cause Morris sucks at it AAA fail.
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Fesken Rans
The Order of Cistral
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:30:00 -
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At least spell his name right. <3 tt.
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:35:00 -
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Call -A- and Mo what you will, We have 1 mothership more then we did before and don't really give a **** what anyone thinks :). -------------------------------------------------
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Armor Tank
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 08:31:30 yea this is old news - theres another thread about it somewhere (edit: oh u linked it). And yes.. AAA tried to pitch that they were merely scamming Ty when in fact it was obvious to all they doing the exact same thing he was by encouraging him to scam Jim, and then taking the mom for themselves and keeping it. Had they been any better, theyd have given the mom back to Jim. They didnt (afaik). So basicly.. AAA standars == TT standards. Who's surprised? No one. AAA should get a proper spindoctor cause Morris sucks at it AAA fail.
Remember that time when your opinion mattered?
Me neither.
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Bobby Atlas
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:53:00 -
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"All is fair in love and war"
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Kriger
x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 10:05:53 edit: quote mayhem
Originally by: Armor Tank
Remember that time when your opinion mattered?
Me neither.
Awww.. is this the part where i should feel hurt? Come back when you can think of an original comeback 'till then tnx for the laugh.
Originally by: DHB FooFighter Call -A- and Mo what you will, We have 1 mothership more then we did before and don't really give a **** what anyone thinks :).
My point exactly The other thread was nothing but a failed, transparent PR stunt. Looks like we are all on the same page here then..
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TOTALHELLDEATH
Caldari Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 10/05/2008 11:12:58
Originally by: Kriger Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 10:08:59 edit: quote mayhem
Originally by: Armor Tank
Remember that time when your opinion mattered?
Me neither.
Awww.. is this the part where i should feel hurt? Come back when you can think of an original comeback 'till then tnx for the laugh.
Originally by: DHB FooFighter Call -A- and Mo what you will, We have 1 mothership more then we did before and don't really give a **** what anyone thinks :).
My point exactly The other thread was nothing but a failed, transparent PR stunt. AAA == TT, but what else is new... 
do you don't think you are the sanme like AAA == TT == Kriger/X13
i mean you robbed with your alt 4 billions from a corp, i mean thats very worse, how could you do that? your moral is sooo low
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Armor Tank
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 10:08:59 edit: quote mayhem
Originally by: Armor Tank
Remember that time when your opinion mattered?
Me neither.
Awww.. is this the part where i should feel hurt? Come back when you can think of an original comeback 'till then tnx for the laugh.
Thinking about it, I need a sig. It needs to have a crow in it (trinity graphics), named to "Cippalippus" or "Cippalippus Primus" (whichever fits better), and it has to have this quote somewhere: Cippalippus stop being emo Krall no emo
Tell me if you can do it and how much I owe if you decide to do one, and to which char do I have to send money.
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:42:00 -
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Cippa's scam was better than mine :<
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Kasigi
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:29:00 -
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like so last month
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:32:00 -
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I can say that I have eaten a thai meal with Morris, and he has hit me on the back of the head with a ladder.
Both of these things are actually true. INTERNETS SUPERHERO WITH FUZZY HAIR
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Anton Marx
Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:45:00 -
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Tairaks Thorkk baby 
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William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:49:00 -
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didn't this happen like 2 months ago? Yarr |

Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:14:00 -
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Quote: Morris from AAA has stolen/scammed Tyrakk to get a Wyvern, the only problem I find is the clear double morale.
I think I agree with ya. Morale in AAA is probably a touch higher than in IAC. Btw, AAA is not a lost and found for items with emo attachment.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.05.10 15:57:00 -
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brb putting him on the "list"
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:24:00 -
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No one mentioned the sucking up done by jim to arach in the #iac channel shortly after this all blew up. How do you moralisers feel about that? Should I have given it back to jim, so he could then forgive the dude and keep the ship for him to steal again? Two other pertinent points: IAC are neutral, I never saw Jim L do anything useful with this ship. Where was it when McBobbits were in FAT? I dont recall seeing any IAC on thulsa's killmail.. but I do recall a great number of badly timed, badly setup pos, and crap scouting, crap fleets, lack of discipline, promotion of farmers, people npcing while we were on combat ops etc etc etc.
I believe the wyvern has been used more in the last month or so more than in its entire IAC career to date. It will continue to be used until such time as its gone, when we'll probably build another one - or hell, get another anyway in the meantime. Wyvern is the best mothership bar none - never hurts to have more.
What happeend to the other one? It was sold no doubt. What happened to the officer fit? It was sold too. Jim is an idiot, bless you, but its the truth. Giving a supercap to an idiot is not something I'll be caught doing - now or ever.
To be clear: _everything_ we do is considered and done as part of a wider knowledge of the game, to the best of our ability. Where we mess up - fine, we mess up - gg next map etc. Intelligent people make mistakes too - but the absolute truth is that the intelligent person learns from them. Idiots continue. Eve is about punishing mistakes and learning from them. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Kriger
x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 16:53:42
Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 10/05/2008 11:12:58
do you don't think you are the sanme like AAA == TT == Kriger/X13
i mean you robbed with your alt 4 billions from a corp, i mean thats very worse, how could you do that? your moral is sooo low
then i seem to be missing 4 bill then.. can you help me find that alt, cause i sure need to find that account then  And what you are missing is the point - you see.. i could be the most ebil scamming sob in the game, but that would change the fact that it was AAA who tried to pitch an image of them being different than TT, when in fact they werent. I never made a similar statement. Get it? Prolly not. Make not mistake - them keeping that mom, who cares. The fun part is them actually trying to do a spin on it, and such a poor one at that too Long story short - AAA scammed themselves into a mom, regardless of whatever 'justifications' they conjour up. Deal with it.
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger
then i seem to be missing 4 bill then.. can you help me find that alt, cause i sure need to find that account then  And what you are missing is the point - you see.. i could be the most ebil scamming sob in the game, but that would change the fact that it was AAA who tried to pitch an image of them being different than TT, when in fact they werent. I never made a similar statement. Get it? Prolly not. Make not mistake - them keeping that mom, who cares. The fun part is them actually trying to do a spin on it, and such a poor one at that too 
Yet to see any detailed rebuff of my personal reasons, or in the context of catch politics. I'm more than happy to respond to any questions beyond "lЯl ur sux thieffz I R KEING MOERLA TBBQH".
That said, never met you, never spoken to you, perhaps you should avoid flagging yourself for special attention....no? Just a thought.
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:00:00 -
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That's kind of a threat. Just a threatinho, you know.
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Kriger
x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 17:25:27
Originally by: Morris Falter That's kind of a threat. Just a threatinho, you know.
oh oh.. i better stop hitting that nerve then 
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger
oh oh.. i better stop hitting that nerve then 
Apparently this is a pvp game? :o Sometimes things GO BOOM AND EVEN MORE SOMETIMES ITS FUN ZOMG
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Kriger
x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 17:27:42 I have no agenda in this other than pointing out the double standards in the case in question. I think thats what the op was trying to aswell and i completely agree with him. If you cant handle ppl calling your bluff, dont play that game. As to your threat - please do, and bring that Mom aswell. We'll give it our special "x13" treatment. Will give you a great opportunity to get a new one. 
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Ariko Gunaris
Gallente Office of Ganking and Commerce
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:31:00 -
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AAA are noobs without teeth.
The only alliance that can make threats like that and keep them is BoB.
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Taz Devlin
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 18:32:00 -
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It is quite appararent that regardless of reasons, excuses or intentions posted by AAA/COL/Mo, neither TSucka or Kriger will never be able to see it in any other way than an immoral act and everybody involved should be lined up and shot.
Yes, The Collective sanctioned an action which left an innocent neutral without a mothership through a blatantly immoral action performed by a well known scoundrel.
A perfect world contains Good and evil. Black and white. Too bad the world is various shades of gray 
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Kriger
x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kriger on 10/05/2008 19:20:44
Originally by: Taz Devlin It is quite appararent that regardless of reasons, excuses or intentions posted by AAA/COL/Mo, neither TSucka or Kriger will never be able to see it in any other way than an immoral act and everybody involved should be lined up and shot.
Yes, The Collective sanctioned an action which left an innocent neutral without a mothership through a blatantly immoral action performed by a well known scoundrel.
A perfect world contains Good and evil. Black and white. Too bad the world is various shades of gray 
You are spot on, though for the record (since you brought it up) i had no problem with AAA keeping that mom, only the attempted spin that ensued and the attempt at cloaking the doublestandard while making a PR attack on IAC (which was the obvious real agenda at the time). Nice to get a proper response, thank you.
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Xeriuz
Caldari The Puppet Masters.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:24:00 -
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isnt this a 2nd mom or are we still talking about the first one?
anyways good job -A-
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 10/05/2008 19:54:58
Originally by: Morris Falter No one mentioned the sucking up done by jim to arach in the #iac channel shortly after this all blew up. How do you moralisers feel about that? Should I have given it back to jim, so he could then forgive the dude and keep the ship for him to steal again?
He was probably just drunk since he changed his mind about 8 times after that, sometimes hating me, sometimes loving and apologizing and saying I did the right thing 
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Two other pertinent points: IAC are neutral, I never saw Jim L do anything useful with this ship. Where was it when McBobbits were in FAT?
Not built yet, but yes he was a useless Wyvern pilot and a liability both to his corp and alliance.
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I dont recall seeing any IAC on thulsa's killmail..
LOL, maybe because AAA/RA didn't bother coordinating with the 80 person IAC fleet that was present and eager to engage ? Thug was being an idiot and his lack of coordination cost him a great deal of capitals after Seleene's titan went down. if IAC's capitals and support had been informed / invited to the fight MC/BoB's capitals might not have mopped the floor with you. You might not want to make comments on things you don't have a clue about btw.
Quote:
but I do recall a great number of badly timed, badly setup pos, and crap scouting, crap fleets, lack of discipline, promotion of farmers, people npcing while we were on combat ops etc etc etc.
Some truth to that, however vast majority of the POS were timed exactly the way Thug requested, some of those were kited so they came out in wrong timezone but overall ThC did a great job with what they had to work with, not all POS were setup well since by the time you speak of we pretty much never had control of the system to do logistics, and AAA didn't bother helping us with system control, IAC alone unfortunately was not capable of operating unhindered against the 15+ alliances in MC/BoB's coalition.
Quote: crap scouting, crap fleets, lack of discipline
all bull**** and you talking out your ass about things you don't know anything about, we did admittedly bring out crap fleets when specifically requested by Thug, he wanted his own little goonswarm flying trash to clog up his enemy's turrets, stupid and didn't work, but can't blame IAC for his mistakes.
Quote: Wyvern is the best mothership bar none - never hurts to have more.
You mean apart from Aeon and Nyx, both of which are much better ? 
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Dead6re
Amarr The Kobayashi Maru Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.10 20:29:00 -
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My question is why did AAA reset us? I haven't seen much on this topic. One minute we were having a stable but slightly fluctuating relationship and out of the blue [In my eyes] reset.
If TT was the problem, he is no longer such a problem.
Quote: CCP Sharkbait: i'm using vista 3bit business and i have no problems at all with most things really, including Eve.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.05.10 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 10/05/2008 21:02:31
They reset IAC because they didn't need meatshield against BoB anymore and they wanted more close to home targets to revive their stagnating leaderless mess of an alliance.
Was obvious they'd reset us months in advance, was never a question of whether, only of when and as soon as the BoB war stopped being a reason to keep us blue they dropped standings.
Funnily enough they set IAC neutral on april 1st and claimed it was "april fools". Maybe that was originally the intent but too many people wanted it to be real for it to stay a joke, or maybe their alliance diplomat Crush3r was lying to me about it being a joke.
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Von Zarovick
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC alone unfortunately was not capable of operating unhindered against the 15+ alliances in MC/BoB's coalition.
You did make a smart move by outing me to the public Morris, if you hadn't done so then IAC would currently be mopping the floor with your stagnant, overrated, has-been alliance.
+ wall of text
hahahaha, that just made my day.
I sence an unusual ammount of delusions.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.05.10 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Von Zarovick hahahaha, that just made my day.
I sence an unusual ammount of delusions.
it's spelled sense, btw enjoy your titan while it lasts 
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Von Zarovick
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 21:11:00 -
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Im pretty sure it will / has lasted longer than any expensive ship you've ever had :)
but, thanks for correcting the typo.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.05.10 21:15:00 -
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no both my imperial issue armageddon and my imperial apocalypse lasted much longer, and both silver magnates I owned are still alive (albeit long since sold to other people ;O)
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Digiblast
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.10 21:44:00 -
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Ok.. I have been thinking about this now and back when this all happend. Why in hell do ppl want Jim to get the Wyvren. There where 2 Wyvrens stolen and why shouldent it just go to the other one that lost one.(Even thou Morris got Jim's actual ship)
We stole it from Tyrakk not from the other 2 in IAC. And we just did IAC a favor and informed them what Tyrrax Thorrk did ... just few dayes later because of other stuff that was going to happen betwean IAC and -A-.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.11 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Morris Falter No one mentioned the sucking up done by jim to arach in the #iac channel shortly after this all blew up. How do you moralisers feel about that? Should I have given it back to jim, so he could then forgive the dude and keep the ship for him to steal again? Two other pertinent points: IAC are neutral, I never saw Jim L do anything useful with this ship. Where was it when McBobbits were in FAT? I dont recall seeing any IAC on thulsa's killmail.. but I do recall a great number of badly timed, badly setup pos, and crap scouting, crap fleets, lack of discipline, promotion of farmers, people npcing while we were on combat ops etc etc etc.
I believe the wyvern has been used more in the last month or so more than in its entire IAC career to date. It will continue to be used until such time as its gone, when we'll probably build another one - or hell, get another anyway in the meantime. Wyvern is the best mothership bar none - never hurts to have more.
What happeend to the other one? It was sold no doubt. What happened to the officer fit? It was sold too. Jim is an idiot, bless you, but its the truth. Giving a supercap to an idiot is not something I'll be caught doing - now or ever.
To be clear: _everything_ we do is considered and done as part of a wider knowledge of the game, to the best of our ability. Where we mess up - fine, we mess up - gg next map etc. Intelligent people make mistakes too - but the absolute truth is that the intelligent person learns from them. Idiots continue. Eve is about punishing mistakes and learning from them. Nothing more, nothing less.
Wanted to write something, but tbh what he said is very spot on. :)
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.11 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sadist on 11/05/2008 01:22:27
Quote: and blackhorizon's flycatcher setup
Quote: [21:17] <Blackhorizon> at least hes giving me credit for the doomsdday tanked flycatcher [21:17] <Blackhorizon> credit i dont deserve :p
Does not deserve! тттттттттттт
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.11 01:29:00 -
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matty01
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.11 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist Edited by: Sadist on 11/05/2008 01:22:27
Quote: and blackhorizon's flycatcher setup
Quote: [21:17] <Blackhorizon> at least hes giving me credit for the doomsdday tanked flycatcher [21:17] <Blackhorizon> credit i dont deserve :p
Does not deserve!
ohshi
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.11 04:08:00 -
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TT wheres my nyx?
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Kiarah
Gallente Janus Pilot Corps
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Posted - 2008.05.11 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Armor Tank Nice thread, let me take a dump on it.
*aaaaaaaaaah*
Much better now.
This looks like a nice post...FOR ME TO **** ON!
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