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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:12:00 -
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A Brutix can't blow up a DST or a blockade runner before concord arrives, even in 0.5 (that I'm aware of?).
Can a single raven do it? -- Ralara / Ralarina |
Sebastian Cawdor
The Athiest Syndicate INT0XICATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:22:00 -
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I think a raven with painters and plates could do it.
Providing you use the right ammo and the transport ship isnt tanked.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastian Cawdor
Providing you use the right ammo and the transport ship isnt tanked.
Use a DCU. and hes right. if it aint tanked you can 3 volley it with torps. You should get 4 volleys in a 0.5
If hes tanked, well your gonna need a few Ravens. and a mod scanner - and hit the right damage in for an average - (shield ammount * 1.%resiatnce + armor ammount * 1.%res) take the lowest resistanced average and everyone fires together using same ammo.
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TimMc
Gallente Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:41:00 -
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Why use a raven when a brutix is so much cheaper?
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FU22
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:12:00 -
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because hes caldari not gallente maybe? just a thought
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:34:00 -
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I fly Gallente as well - but the Brutix doesnt have the DPS to take down a transport or blockade runner - a Raven does.
On a related note, I got my first hate mail from a AFKer...
[13:17:00] VICTIM: > чтоб ты сдох сволочь!
Which means, according to Babel, something along the lines of "Die, you bastard."
He wasn't technically AFK, he was afterburning from gate to gate, on auto pilot :D -- Ralara / Ralarina |
Avelie
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:08:00 -
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It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
oh crap, you're right.
nvm then. -- Ralara / Ralarina |
Mia Morningstar
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Posted - 2008.05.10 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
ever heard of suicide ganking?
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Galliana Foresta
Gallente Fleeting Moments of Insanity
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Posted - 2008.05.10 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:24:00 -
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i keep meaning to test on the test server
my second main has lvl 5 in all missile skills, inluding torp spec lvl 5
so full rack of t2 seige launcher with heat turned on 3 target painters and web drones 3 BCU II rage torps
now that must put some out some big hurt tbh
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
Helpful answer: check into platinum insurance on a battleship. Quite often you'll see that the actual cost post-kablooey and insurance payout can be LOWER on a battleship than a battlecruiser. Last I checked it was around 1-2 million on a Dominix. Ravens may be closer to 8M loss, but named siege launchers are nearly free.
I've never seen it but apparently plenty of people insist on hauling hundreds of M worth of loot AFK in haulers. Some claim suicide ganking is one of the most profitable activities in Eve, if you choose your targets right.
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 10/05/2008 17:48:51
Originally by: Toria Nynys
Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
Helpful answer: check into platinum insurance on a battleship. Quite often you'll see that the actual cost post-kablooey and insurance payout can be LOWER on a battleship than a battlecruiser. Last I checked it was around 1-2 million on a Dominix. Ravens may be closer to 8M loss, but named siege launchers are nearly free.
I've never seen it but apparently plenty of people insist on hauling hundreds of M worth of loot AFK in haulers. Some claim suicide ganking is one of the most profitable activities in Eve, if you choose your targets right.
I nearly got one earlier but someone else decloaked and got them ebfore I could
1.6b in a badger II, and he said in local (cos me and the guy that ganked him were having a chuckle) that we were "sinners" and that "we cannot be saved".
At first we were "lol?" but it turns out he was serious.
Of course, in local, he said he was quitting with all 4 of his accounts () but I've added him to my address book and he's logged on twice since then :D
Well, a rather crappy day overall, gank wise. Seems there was a bit of competition between me and 2 or 3 others in one system... had some crappy drops - one for 6m...
But overall, profit. Not much, but some.
Now to get my sec status back up :D -- Ralara / Ralarina |
Chomapuraku
Caldari Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 17:57:00 -
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the better the stats on the ship they have and the bigger their tank, the more the pilot relies on that to keep him alive (as opposed to flying smart). frame the problem like that and a solution will present itself
personally, i never fly anything but a cloaking nano-crane for hauling through high-sec. most i've ever hauled in it was 1.5 bil
Originally by: Crimson11 Crimson11: What the hell happened?
WarGod: Some breaking occurred, the Alt Key was involved, that's about all we know.
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Spacer X
Amarr Xpress Yourself
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Posted - 2008.05.10 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara [13:17:00] VICTIM: > чтоб ты сдох сволочь!
Which means, according to Babel, something along the lines of "Die, you bastard."
aww, I think he likes you lol
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.05.10 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
oh crap, you're right.
nvm then.
I lol'd irl at this
@Avelie - if they're going to the trouble of letting CONCORD blow up their ship in hopes of blowing up the DST/BR or T1 hauler, you can bet they already know what it's carrying and that what it's gonna drop is probably worth more than 5 ravens. I've seen the Tri. guys do their thing in highsec, they're not stupid.
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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easei
AnTi. Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.05.11 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
I lol'd irl at this
@Avelie - if they're going to the trouble of letting CONCORD blow up their ship in hopes of blowing up the DST/BR or T1 hauler, you can bet they already know what it's carrying and that what it's gonna drop is probably worth more than 5 ravens. I've seen the Tri. guys do their thing in highsec, they're not stupid.
Passive targeters and cargo scanners make me warm and fuzzy inside. At this point I don't think there's a freighter leaving any major trade hub that hasn't been scanned.
Also Cargo cans FTW.
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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.11 01:38:00 -
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Aside from a few plates and a damage control, a short buffer is all you can really get when taking concord. Also, I've been able to kill blockade runners before I popped, you just need 1+ webbers in addition to a full rack of t2 neutrons and t2 magstabs.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.11 02:11:00 -
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If your going after DST then make sure you also ship scan the fittings or you might get a nasty suprise.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
CEO Drako
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Posted - 2008.05.11 02:29:00 -
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so does having a can full of BM's mess with your scanners like its rumored to?...and yes I know everyones going to say no..but I like silly questions
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.11 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: CEO Drako so does having a can full of BM's mess with your scanners like its rumored to?...and yes I know everyones going to say no..but I like silly questions
Double wrap your couriers. 'nuff said.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
AKULA UrQuan
Caldari Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.11 03:13:00 -
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For DST: -Two torp ravens overloading -1k DPS min each. Better go with 1100+ to be safe. -Lots of target painters active. -That'll take out just about any DST in TQ in 0.5
For BR: -Single Brutix -2.5 second lock time on 100m sig radius targets. Halos are usefull for something. -Pray you can web the silly thing before it takes off at near 3km/sec.
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Mudrat
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Posted - 2008.05.11 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara Edited by: Ralara on 10/05/2008 17:48:51
Originally by: Toria Nynys
Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
Helpful answer: check into platinum insurance on a battleship. Quite often you'll see that the actual cost post-kablooey and insurance payout can be LOWER on a battleship than a battlecruiser. Last I checked it was around 1-2 million on a Dominix. Ravens may be closer to 8M loss, but named siege launchers are nearly free.
I've never seen it but apparently plenty of people insist on hauling hundreds of M worth of loot AFK in haulers. Some claim suicide ganking is one of the most profitable activities in Eve, if you choose your targets right.
I nearly got one earlier but someone else decloaked and got them ebfore I could
1.6b in a badger II, and he said in local (cos me and the guy that ganked him were having a chuckle) that we were "sinners" and that "we cannot be saved".
At first we were "lol?" but it turns out he was serious.
Of course, in local, he said he was quitting with all 4 of his accounts () but I've added him to my address book and he's logged on twice since then :D
Well, a rather crappy day overall, gank wise. Seems there was a bit of competition between me and 2 or 3 others in one system... had some crappy drops - one for 6m...
But overall, profit. Not much, but some.
Now to get my sec status back up :D
badger II is not a transport ship
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Mudrat
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Posted - 2008.05.11 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mudrat on 11/05/2008 05:30:51
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan For DST: -Two torp ravens overloading -1k DPS min each. Better go with 1100+ to be safe. -Lots of target painters active. -That'll take out just about any DST in TQ in 0.5
For BR: -Single Brutix -2.5 second lock time on 100m sig radius targets. Halos are usefull for something. -Pray you can web the silly thing before it takes off at near 3km/sec.
my viator aligns to warp as fast as a shuttle from a dead stop, you'll need two scrams to prevent that
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.11 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan For DST: -Two torp ravens overloading -1k DPS min each. Better go with 1100+ to be safe. -Lots of target painters active. -That'll take out just about any DST in TQ in 0.5
lol no.. But you get points for setting up some poor fool for a loss.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Avelie
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Posted - 2008.05.11 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Ralara
Originally by: Avelie It might just be a moment of stupidity, but wouldn't you get your raven(s) blown up by concord if you pop the hauler or not? I'm just thinking that any kind of mortal loot can hardly be worth a bunch of ravens.
oh crap, you're right.
nvm then.
I lol'd irl at this
@Avelie - if they're going to the trouble of letting CONCORD blow up their ship in hopes of blowing up the DST/BR or T1 hauler, you can bet they already know what it's carrying and that what it's gonna drop is probably worth more than 5 ravens. I've seen the Tri. guys do their thing in highsec, they're not stupid.
Well actually the stupid part was more aimed at myself as I could have missed some vital point.. Which wasn't that far off either since I didn't really think about the insurance payout (I'm just hardcore like that)
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.11 21:01:00 -
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you really need lots of firepower and/or a fast lock to blow up properly fitted transports and BRs. the former can tank crazy damage, the latter can initiate warp so quick you won't even be able to blink.
so your only hope is AP, stupid setups, or a few people with you.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.11 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mudrat my viator aligns to warp as fast as a shuttle from a dead stop, you'll need two scrams to prevent that
It's basicly impossible to suicice gank a BR in high sec when the pilot is at the keyboard. If you happen to catch a BR in one place long enough they'll go *pop* pretty quick.
Originally by: Zeba lol no.. But you get points for setting up some poor fool for a loss.
I did leave out the part where the skills needed to be maxed for the ravens. Not too many toons have maxed torp, caldari BS and target painter skills. It'll still be very close on a DST that has a 60,000+ EHP buffer. Thankfully most flying around have 1/2 that since they keep forgeting extenders/plates and are obsessed with cargo expanders for some strange reason.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.12 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Thankfully most flying around have 1/2 that since they keep forgeting extenders/plates and are obsessed with cargo expanders for some strange reason.
I actually endorse these fits as the moar phat faction lootz that get destroyed or fall into pirate hands = moar profits for me.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: CEO Drako so does having a can full of BM's mess with your scanners like its rumored to?...and yes I know everyones going to say no..but I like silly questions
No - it takes a couple more seconds to put everything on the scan, but no.
Besides, if a scan takes longer than 0.5 seconds to appear on my screen (the more items, the more "lag" so to speak), the more it peaks my interest. If something takes 10 seconds to load up, I'm not goin to scan through the list I'm going to blow it up regardless :D -- Ralara / Ralarina |
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mudrat
badger II is not a transport ship
Yes I know, by "I nearly got one" I meant a victim, not a transport :) -- Ralara / Ralarina |
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