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Jolliejoe
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.13 09:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jolliejoe on 13/05/2008 09:14:58
I just want CCP to add even more bugged crap to the game instead of fixing the truckload of ****ty bugs (or so called "features") in the game right now (pos bug comes to mind, hey anyone never seen half the blues at a JB being neutral suddenly ROFL, sorry I fogot, that's a "feature" too).
Sure, let's add factional warefare, let's add ambulation... let's add so much stuff that we the players lose track of all the bugs and simply give up on filing petitions and bugreports (which is useless anyway since according to CCP, most of all the bugs are "as designed" anyway or simply be done with it saying that we need to give them more info so they can reproduce it better... i'm sure the 2 page description of them problem in the bugreport doesn't help them LOLZ)...
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Tharukan Desm'ar
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Posted - 2008.05.13 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tharukan Desm''ar on 13/05/2008 10:24:52
I love the sound of ambulation and will be rushing to set up my domicile in my station. as long as we get a lot of different clothing types and extras to mess about with in the beginning I'll be happy. It can only lead as a stepping stone to more features in the future. The graphics and detail using the trinity engine looks awesome to.
Edot: Apparently you might be able to set up a bar to!
Cant wait!
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.05.13 11:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Havohej
tbh, I predict a lot of smacktards. I foresee a lot of noobs (and for that matter, a lot of existing players in-game already) getting camped into stations and talking all manner of smack on local (just like we have now), and on top of that we'll also have those people talking all manner of smack in-station and then refusing to undock.
After all, it's been stated in no uncertain terms that there will be no combat in ambulation, at least in the beginning, and that it isn't expected to be added any time in the near/foreseeable future. While this sort of sucks, I DO fully understand the reasons and it would probably be worse off if it were included. Imagine how much easier it would be to suicide gank a humanoid than an actual ship...
But, even with the drawbacks that I expect, I'll still mess with it for at least a few days. I wanna make everybody look at my ugly-ass avatar in-game just like here on the forum. 
So what you're saying is we'll see behaviour just like we already have?
I think it's really narrow minded and naive to assume that a bodily avatar will attract the kind of player that will just talk trash and grief. I can't make that connection. After playing countless MMOs I see no correlation - these people are either just asshats (which will turn up anywhere) or they are the kind that will abuse mechanics to get their own way (which applies to any game, avatar or not) or they rely on some similar non-avatar related asshattery to get their kicks.
Ambulation won't attract 'EVIL WOW PLAYERS' - half of EVE has already played WoW or a similar game anyway so the argument is redundant.
Theres a lot of misconception and elitism about something that will open the game up to a marginally bigger audience, bring in fresh/increased demand to the economy and give you something to do when you are stuck in station for whatever reason. Some characters already spend their whole existence docked, I don't see that ambulation will change anything here and if it does so what? It's not for any PvPer to dictate how often they sould get to shoot the other players of the game.
~Ryoji Tanakama
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2008.05.13 11:55:00 -
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it all depends upon how well the demands of "old" players will be integrated into it.
for example ccp allways praises how great their meeting-room "tactical map" feature is, and that
it will provide huge advantages over the normal map, and how it may shift fleet commanders from taking
part int the actual battle to command their fleet(s) from that room.
i am a little sceptic about that concept tho.
what it comes down to in the end is:
- is there a "real game" advantage to using ambulation for corps & alliances
- is this advantage worth the additional time required to do it through ambulation.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.05.13 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoji Tanakama on 13/05/2008 12:04:19
I would prefer if there is no mechanical advantage to having a player avatar as such... but it leads to having non-mechanical player advantages. If you do not have to worry about your own ship to oversee a battle and can do so remotely, dedicating your entire screen to interface and overview and chat windows then there's a lot more that you can achieve by coordination of that information than is neccessarily possible while piloting a ship in the front line.
I think being able to manage a fleet while docked would be an awesome thing regardless of ambulation, you could have your solar system map up with various other windows around it and blips for your fleet and the enemy simply because you dont need to be able to see what is going on directly around you.
Theres scope for usefull skills here too IMO... if you want to be able to see friendlies on the solarsystem map then you need 'tectical accumen level 1' to see the enemy too, then you need 'tactical accumen level 4'. It also opens up the possibility of a new branch of ewar designed solely around providing this information. If the ships relaying the data are popped, then you lose the HUD and have to rely on pilot intel.
I dunno... just a random hyperbole there for no good reason.
EDIT: Clarification
~Ryoji Tanakama
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Liberator 1
Gallente
Revolutionary United Front
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2008.05.13 12:10:00 -
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Will I be able to get rid of this stupid haircut with an ambulation hairdresser ?
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.13 12:26:00 -
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Well Local channel wont have ambulation people on it, people inside the station and out of thier shipsll have a different chat channel from what ive read.
Yes you can change your hair for once and they are adding dozens of new hair styles and facial hair and all sorts of things.
As far as I know there are various coporate tools such as corporate uniforms an interactive office (with npc to act as your clerk) and possibly some recruiting materials there. along with that war room you stated they could also post various other thgns there like earnings and graphs of the corps business.
But i want to know is how the older players who dont embrace ambulation going to treat the newer players that would never know the difference?
Finally what i also understad is that what breaks in ambulation stays in ambulation so hopefully that should be interesting enough.
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Sral TBear
Mark Of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.05.13 12:35:00 -
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dont want to walk in station...i want to blow up planets, i want to hide on them.....i want to get biomass to sell....think of finishing the house instead of decorating the toilet....
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Arakidias
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.05.13 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sral TBear
dont want to walk in station...i want to blow up planets, i want to hide on them.....i want to get biomass to sell....think of finishing the house instead of decorating the toilet....
Yeah I know mate, it's very annoying that ambulation will be forced upon us and that everyone has to spend 2h of gametime in the station for every hour outside.
It's even worse that you cannot start training a new skill without changing your clothes.
I mean really, what gives?
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Misanth
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.13 13:08:00 -
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I just hope ambulation won't be a "necessary" part of EVE; i.e. you have to waste time walking around in stations.
The action is out in space and as long as I'm not being held hostage by having to walk around in the station I'm happy with whatever. In that case I predict ambulation won't affect me at all.. apart from maybe having less targets around in space.
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Anell
Minmatar
Evil Avatar Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.05.13 13:18:00 -
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I don't know where folks are getting some of these ideas about ambulation. I thought I have stayed pretty up to date on it but the only features I have seen (other then walking around) is the map room and talking to agents in person.
I think it would be neat to setup your own shop or have your own domicile. But I also haven't read that anywhere and thus I'm inclined to believe it doesn't exist. If these things were mentioned by a dev I would want to know 1) when it was mentioned, and 2) the context it was mentioned in, and finally 3) what dev said it.
Anyone with experience in MMOs knows that what devs say a year before release is very different when release actually happens. The list of features EVE was supposed to have at release and what it did have at release are worlds apart. I would not be surprised if we can not even change clothing on our avatar but instead choose the outfit at the new character creation and then thats it. I haven't heard anything about buying new outfits or changing the look of our avatar after the new character creation.
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Arakidias
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.05.13 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
I just hope ambulation won't be a "necessary" part of EVE; i.e. you have to waste time walking around in stations.
The action is out in space and as long as I'm not being held hostage by having to walk around in the station I'm happy with whatever. In that case I predict ambulation won't affect me at all.. apart from maybe having less targets around in space.
DEV's have stated several times that ambulation is 100% optional
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.13 14:44:00 -
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Ambulation will only 1 forced option.
You got to update your avatar for the trinity engine.
Dont worry once your done making your new self and get your new pilot licence mugshot your done you wont have to touch your whole body again in eve.
But your certianly going to start missing out when we start having parties on planets that once belonging to our former enemies and really tossing some smurgleblaster and Quafe Ultra around for everyone and you wheen't invited because you refuse to use ambulation.
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Misanth
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Arakidias
Originally by: Misanth
I just hope ambulation won't be a "necessary" part of EVE; i.e. you have to waste time walking around in stations.
The action is out in space and as long as I'm not being held hostage by having to walk around in the station I'm happy with whatever. In that case I predict ambulation won't affect me at all.. apart from maybe having less targets around in space.
DEV's have stated several times that ambulation is 100% optional
I got to say I miss all that kind of info as I'm not interested in ambulation at all. Just scared of the potential it has to ruin my game.  ..but yah, in that case I should read up on it instead of assuming the worst. Just happens to rather spend that time on other things as it is. 
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:23:00 -
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I seriously hope i don't get greeted by about 10 ISK spammers everytime i get out of my pod to stretch my legs lol.
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Rosenkranz
Caldari
The Aussie Connection Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:45:00 -
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I think ambulation is a good thing.
It may not seem useful to veterans of eve, but it may attract other folks that have trouble getting into games like this.
My wife for example would love eve. It has everything and more to offer her than the MMO she currently plays (AsheronÆs Call). But, she just canÆt get into eve. The problem is the lack of an avatar. The avatarÆs we know and love donÆt count. All the ships look the same (i.e. arenÆt customizable) and thatÆs all we really see. She just canÆt connect with a ship avatar that looks exactly like every other ship of itÆs type.
Give her an avatar she can walk around with on station and suddenly there is a connection. Suddenly the sameness of the ships can be forgiven.
So IÆm definitely looking forward to ambulation 
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Kale Kold
Caldari
Vicious Little Killers
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:53:00 -
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I think ambulation needs combat. It doesn't have to end in death, just a form of unconsciousness, etc... CCP will surely add it one day. Hell, even the backstory could be changed to accommodate cloning, etc..
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: SiKong Ma
I foresee that new players will find a jewelled hairpin will cost about the same as your Arbalest Heavy Launcher while a set of red leather outfit will cost more than your faction fitted CNR.
Eve will no longer be about internet spaceships. It will be about piloting internet spaceships in sexy red leather outfits.
The procedure will no longer be about getting into an unimplanted jump clone and go shooting each other in the face. It will be about getting into a naked (or those cheap caldari uniforms) unimplanted jump clones before going out to shoot each other in the face.
PS: Yes, due to the quantity of Achuras around, I foresee new players will find a set of Caldari uniform the cheapest in the market.
These are all strong arguments in favour of ambulation!
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Elles D
I for one would like to see something akin to Counterstrike in stations, CCP could do a partnership with valve 
*jots down EVE Fortress 2 as comic idea*
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Johnny Gurkha
Maleficus Cruentus Interfeci
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:19:00 -
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I demand the right to give my victims a hug and a kiss... F@g-Online would be the ultimate in griefing 
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.14 21:06:00 -
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Oh dear lord backdoor bandit... can you imagine? shudders (gets nightmares about it)
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Elles D
Caldari
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.15 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Elles D
I for one would like to see something akin to Counterstrike in stations, CCP could do a partnership with valve
*jots down EVE Fortress 2 as comic idea*
You know it makes sense.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.05.15 15:27:00 -
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A dev said we could play igo in ambulation... Is that not enough of a reason to welcome it with open arms?
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Mdram
Caldari
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.05.15 15:57:00 -
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i really dont see the point in this expansion
put the effort into other stuff, like new ships, weapons, ect.
although i would like to see what a large blaster could do to a person :)
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