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Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:29:00 - [91] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Faekurias Hey guise, I have an Idea- Make a religious thread and take that there? Would be quite appropriate since it doesn't feel all that relevant here. It would only get locked (as this one will eventually). It's a pity, since I find this sort of thread the most interesting. Me too to be quite honest, but don't wanna speed the locking of the thread ... oops here I go speeding the lock Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Ren Surkova Down In Flames	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:37:00 - [92] whats really speeding the lock on this thread is your inability to recognise a faux-fundamentalist troll or at least choose to ignore it so you can go through the whole 'I CHOOSE LOGIC' circlejerk yet again
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:40:00 - [93] Originally by: Ren Surkova whats really speeding the lock on this thread is your inability to recognise a faux-fundamentalist troll or at least choose to ignore it so you can go through the whole 'I CHOOSE LOGIC' circlejerk yet again But... but... someone is WRONG on the internet! I cannot leave it be! Alternatively, apply Lebadevinski's Inequality to the set of Boromian fields, and expand out by Gregorinov's power series. The answer should then be obvious.
Isiskhan Gnostic Misanthropy	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:43:00 - [94] Originally by: Magnus Nordir The Bible states clearly that there is only one God, and believing into any other (by definition false) gods is a sin. The Bible is the word of God and therefore requires no further justification. The word of God is sure a lot psychopathic of fun: murder, slavery, r*pe, ritual sacrifice... Charles Manson is just a hopeless noob compared to God.
Ren Surkova Down In Flames	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:45:00 - [95] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Ren Surkova whats really speeding the lock on this thread is your inability to recognise a faux-fundamentalist troll or at least choose to ignore it so you can go through the whole 'I CHOOSE LOGIC' circlejerk yet again But... but... someone is WRONG on the internet! I cannot leave it be! there there, if you'd like I could make an 'EVOLUTION IS A LIE' thread to take your mind off of it
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:51:00 - [96] Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You haven't answered my question yet. The Bible states clearly that there is only one God, and believing into any other (by definition false) gods is a sin. The Bible is the word of God and therefore requires no further justification. And according to the Qur'an you are a an infidel for believing in a false god. So I ask again, what makes YOUR god more real than theirs?
Ren Surkova Down In Flames	Posted - 2008.05.16 23:58:00 - [97] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You haven't answered my question yet. The Bible states clearly that there is only one God, and believing into any other (by definition false) gods is a sin. The Bible is the word of God and therefore requires no further justification. And according to the Qur'an you are a an infidel for believing in a false god. So I ask again, what makes YOUR god more real than theirs? nobody gets mad if I draw a drawing of my god they get mad if you draw allah they just insecure cus he don't exist lol also this thread is irredeemably derailed
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.17 00:03:00 - [98] Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You haven't answered my question yet. The Bible states clearly that there is only one God, and believing into any other (by definition false) gods is a sin. The Bible is the word of God and therefore requires no further justification. And according to the Qur'an you are a an infidel for believing in a false god. So I ask again, what makes YOUR god more real than theirs? nobody gets mad if I draw a drawing of my god they get mad if you draw allah they just insecure cus he don't exist lol also this thread is irredeemably derailed Now that is a LOL statement. You have no idea how many times I've been told I'm going to hell by christians when I get into these 'conversations' with them.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.17 00:04:00 - [99] Originally by: Ren Surkova also this thread is irredeemably derailed That rail was boring anyway Alternatively, apply Lebadevinski's Inequality to the set of Boromian fields, and expand out by Gregorinov's power series. The answer should then be obvious.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.17 00:34:00 - [100] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 17/05/2008 00:34:13 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You haven't answered my question yet. The Bible states clearly that there is only one God, and believing into any other (by definition false) gods is a sin. The Bible is the word of God and therefore requires no further justification. And according to the Qur'an you are a an infidel for believing in a false god. So I ask again, what makes YOUR god more real than theirs? I've read the Qu'ran... I have a secret.... leans close and whispers... It's the same damn book! Kill all infidels translates to... "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)" *EDIT: Actually the Qu-ran is cooler because you read it backwards () () (â;..;)â (")(")
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.17 00:57:00 - [101] I worship only the Holy Book of Pensi! Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
mercyonman	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:39:00 - [102] Originally by: GiantSquid Edited by: GiantSquid on 15/05/2008 16:58:17 Its true, if we keep pouring crap into the air the really brainy sCience dudes say the measurements taken will give us 10 years before we reach a point where we cant reverse the damage we have done and we are all ....... To back this up in a numbing way the green mps in the uk who were very anti nuclear power are now all for it , " so what if 20000000 people die in an accident, at least the rest will live, along with the planet". Its quite worrying how blinded the US is to the damage they do but the constant advertising one gets over there does a good job of putting blinkers on them. The uk is almost as bad but the govement is going nuts trying to work out how to sort this (note the fast removal of Bush as he tries to fight the whole UN on pollution, with crap comments like "china produuced more" when actually for every one us person u can have 10 chinease do the same damge. If u look at the world as a large goldfish bowl ull see that u me, folks in 3rd world, us aussie everywhere, everything is inside this bowl and the lid is fully on it wont take long if we all smoke for it to be unbreathable, but most people dont give a *** till its too late It isnt right now so have a little think about ur life and ways to make stuff better, like not living out of junk food and wrappers or maybe turning eve of and giving me all ur stuff so u save the plannet... :) well just thought u should know cos its reel, really really, Its hard for me to accept that when my childhood came from all the great vibes rock n roll n free living gave out, to sit here and go actually we need to do this this this and this, and be responsable but if we dont we truely will all be facing a much more harsh world. there are no spelling mistakes, waves jedi paw don't trust those scientists are planet is as healthy as ever and there is no such thing as global warming or anything like that plus those holes in the ozone layer have been there since ever so look up these things harder and if you want more facts on this just email me at [email protected]
Batwigg	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:41:00 - [103] **** im drunk
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.05.17 05:18:00 - [104] Originally by: Lee DeMonico Global warming..pollution...sick to death of hearing of it. Please don't confuse the "global warming" thing with pollution. They are two separate subjects unless you try and say that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Oh wait.... Darn, I guess breathing and passing gas will soon be a crime.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.17 05:22:00 - [105] Originally by: Keorythe Originally by: Lee DeMonico Global warming..pollution...sick to death of hearing of it. Please don't confuse the "global warming" thing with pollution. They are two separate subjects unless you try and say that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Oh wait.... Darn, I guess breathing and passing gas will soon be a crime. That's why some environmentalists freak out about all the cows in america... I tell them I'm doing my part but I can only eat them so fast () () (â;..;)â (")(")
Manu Hermanus IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.17 08:13:00 - [106] hurry the ** up with global warming, I'm sick of ***es complaining its too cold
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.17 08:33:00 - [107] I moving to Arizona... that's where global warming starts in the US () () (â;..;)â (")(")
TimMc Gallente Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.17 10:33:00 - [108] I wasn't under the impression we could reverse the damage we've already done. Thought it was just a bit longer before the damage started to hurt back.
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.17 10:34:00 - [109] Is this board full of liberal cnts or what? First it was "zomg look at the 2 billion dollar house" now its "the world is gonna end in 10 years and its all America's fault." Global warming is not a threat to planet earth, it's a threat to HUMANS, many many humans might die, perhaps on a catastrophic scale, the planet was here before us, it will be here after us. What happens between now and the end, I don't know but I don't lose any sleep thinking about it. If the world is gonna end in 10 year we better get ****alackin and throw some big parties and get as much sex and booze as possible, cuz I aint dying before I plow a few thousand 10's.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.17 11:56:00 - [110] Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 17/05/2008 11:57:36 Originally by: GiantSquid but most people dont give a *** till its too late It is too late. Six and a half billion people and half of them are kids. What are you going to do against that sort of inertia? I am grateful I will live out my life before the tragedy of the commons ends in Malthusian catastrophe. Put down your Guardian Weekend or New Yorker and chill. You can't stop it and you probably won't see it happen either. Accept it and move on. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Isiskhan Gnostic Misanthropy	Posted - 2008.05.17 18:20:00 - [111] Originally by: Keorythe Please don't confuse the "global warming" thing with pollution. They are two separate subjects unless you try and say that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. Oh wait.... Darn, I guess breathing and passing gas will soon be a crime. In Keorythe's little fantasy world global warming is perhaps about ponies farting technicolor romances. In the real world however, the "global margin thing" people keep making so much noise about, is precisely about cutting down air pollution.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.05.17 18:41:00 - [112] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/05/2008 18:42:56 To be honest, there are so many ways this planet can (and will???) be destroye by its insane. SOme of them are more possible then other, but they are all more then enough to make one sleepless: 1. Nuclear wars and wars in general. China. Russia. USA. Iran. India. Israel. North- Korea. I wont get into politics. I just say too many have nuclears. Too many fancies weapons and wars. Not just by the above mentioned countries. But by most countries in the world. 2. Pollution! Yes. We are using more then this world can support and withhold. We are cutting down the rainforest. We need the forrest because of the oxygene it creates. More and more nations are polluting by cars. factories etc etc. Heck, many cities out there have oxygen stations on the streets to give people fresh air to breathe in! Polar ice is melting. so much destruction is bad! 3. Starvation and population! The world have a too large population compared to what earth can cover food for! This will create unrest and wars. And large ammounts of people will have to move around - even outside their home country to find life support! This create cultural conflicts which we allready see today! 4.meteorites! I guess you have seen Armageddon! Meteorites are daily passing earth, and meteorites have hit earth before! Some say that it was a meteorite that cleaned out the dinosaurs! I am sure another meteorite can do the same thing with the humans. 5. The least likely scenario is an alien invasion. But i guess its possible I am sure there are many many other reasons which can bring earth belly up. But I decided that I wanted to think of something more nice at the moment.I dont want to loose my sleep tonight Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.17 19:24:00 - [113] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/05/2008 18:42:56 To be honest, there are so many ways this planet can (and will???) be destroye by its insane. SOme of them are more possible then other, but they are all more then enough to make one sleepless: 1. Nuclear wars and wars in general. China. Russia. USA. Iran. India. Israel. North- Korea. I wont get into politics. I just say too many have nuclears. Too many fancies weapons and wars. Not just by the above mentioned countries. But by most countries in the world. 2. Pollution! Yes. We are using more then this world can support and withhold. We are cutting down the rainforest. We need the forrest because of the oxygene it creates. More and more nations are polluting by cars. factories etc etc. Heck, many cities out there have oxygen stations on the streets to give people fresh air to breathe in! Polar ice is melting. so much destruction is bad! 3. Starvation and population! The world have a too large population compared to what earth can cover food for! This will create unrest and wars. And large ammounts of people will have to move around - even outside their home country to find life support! This create cultural conflicts which we allready see today! 4.meteorites! I guess you have seen Armageddon! Meteorites are daily passing earth, and meteorites have hit earth before! Some say that it was a meteorite that cleaned out the dinosaurs! I am sure another meteorite can do the same thing with the humans. 5. The least likely scenario is an alien invasion. But i guess its possible I am sure there are many many other reasons which can bring earth belly up. But I decided that I wanted to think of something more nice at the moment.I dont want to loose my sleep tonight 1. Fortunately, it seems the leaders of nuclear countries still have enough common sense not to use nukes. And even if they didn't, it would take a hell of alot of nukes to trigger a nuclear winter. 2. It's not the rainforests that produce the majority of the oxygen on this planet. It's the sea algea. Of course, this is being destroyed just as quickly as the rainforests, so it's not really a comfort. 3. Not enough food to support the population: this is simple species population dynamics. There's not enough food -> alot of people will die -> the people who are left will have plenty of food. It sounds heartless, but that's how nature works. 4. Catastrophic meteor strikes are very rare. If I recall correctly, the latest extraterrestrial (by which I mean not from Earth, not aliens) mass-exctinction event occurred 69 million years ago - the dinosaurs. 5. I for one, welcome... naaa, too obvious. Alternatively, apply Lebadevinski's Inequality to the set of Boromian fields, and expand out by Gregorinov's power series. The answer should then be obvious.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.17 19:40:00 - [114] Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 19:40:32 I would be more worried about in general what we do here down-to-earth than outerspace - wither it be ourselves or to the environment. If this is a question of our survival, and wither or not we destroy ourselves. At current rate, whatever and outerspace that could kill us will be beat to the punch be the fact we killed off ourselves. Some people say: oh well, I'll be long dead before this happens. Well - your idiots; go hang yourselves. Talk about selfish. I personally do not care in a way - not because I will be long dead before it happens, I think a lot of us honestly deserve to die, especially when were dumb enough to destroy our own selves. In nature, if you have some animal dumb enough to do something like - jump into a volcano - they die. They die because they were ******. The same applies to the human race. Example: The thing is - if we were in the wild, and we had some idiot who likes to hang out at a particular oasis with his tribe for example. And one day, the oasis gets dirty and there is bacteria in it that will make you really sick. So - this stubborn fool, who has always drank from this oasis along with his tribe, sees all his tribe members getting sick and drop dead. They need to move on and find a new water source. So - this guys like: "bah, I'm not going to walk 100 miles just to find another damn hole, I'm staying right here." He than drinks from the watering hole, and rightfully dies for being a complete idiot. This is like most of the people who denied the fact fossil fuels will run out. The issue is: We have changed our environments to suit our current way of life. So - when normally a idiot would die for drinking bad water - they get rushed to a hospital and revived. This creates a dangerously high concentration of stupid** in the world today - normally nature would filter this all out, but it can't. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
GIGAR Caldari Burma Star Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2008.05.17 19:58:00 - [115] Edited by: GIGAR on 17/05/2008 19:58:35 A lot of people are against nuclear power. Obviously, it's "OMGZ ITS GONNA BLOW UP AND EVER1 IS GONNA DIE !!11!!1!!". Witch is pretty damn far from the truth. When was the last time you head of a nuclear power plant explosion? DECADES AGO!!! Look at it in perspective: You can choose between burning 250 TONNES of oil, or you can use longtime radioactive material at 1/4 the size of a brick. The size of the radioactive material is less than a million of the oil. What do you think will effect the nature most? Also remember that we're storing radioactive material in remote areas deep below the ground, where it does NO harm... It's not a question of meaning nuclear power is bad, it's a question of wether you're too ******** to see the difference. :) Also; Fusion > Deuterium + Deuterium FTW.
Isiskhan Gnostic Misanthropy	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:22:00 - [116] Originally by: GIGAR A lot of people are against nuclear power. We are facing such an issue here in Spain at the moment: there's a large nuclear power plant built 40 years ago whose license is about to expire. A lot of people were hoping that the government (currently the Socialist party) would stick to their original anti-nuclear roots and not renew the license. According to polls, 80% of Spaniards are against nuclear power, yet only 15% admit they are well-informed on the subject. But alas, times have changed. First the Socialist prime minister we had in the '80s has admitted that his opposition back then to nuclear power was probably his biggest political mistake. Secondly, they've been crunching numbers and given the price of oil and the greenhouse gases reduction goals Spain has committed themselves to, they just can't afford to shut down that nuclear power plant. They argue as well something along the lines you point out: is more manageable and controllable to deal with a small amount of underground radioactive waste, than to release a much bigger amount of pollutants into the atmosphere. So despite it being an unpopular decision, all the government's latest moves point out that they are going to renew that plant's license and continue to rely on nuclear power for the foreseeable future.
Marisal	Posted - 2008.05.18 01:37:00 - [117] Edited by: Marisal on 18/05/2008 01:37:29 Originally by: Amastat The issue is: We have changed our environments to suit our current way of life. So - when normally a idiot would die for drinking bad water - they get rushed to a hospital and revived. This creates a dangerously high concentration of stupid in the world today - normally nature would filter this all out, but it can't. Your basically talking the theory of natural selection, but the human species doesn't go with nature methods hasn't done since we gain the ability to aid other members of the species to avoid things that alone we wouldn't be able to right around the time we started developing tools, Tools could be used to provide a surplus which would keep those not able to hunt for themselves etc. There's no real way to correct this other than eugenics and frankly that is not a road the species should go down given its current maturity society as a whole can't cope with simple issues such as the ability to choose eye colour so enhancing a species and removing negative aspects of a humans genetic sequence though starting to become within our grasp is something we are simply not ready for. The human effect on global warming is self reinforcing its hard to set it out as there's no specific start point but basically in times of surplus a species will breed more (natural instinct to make sure its genetic lineage continues) and in times of hardship will breed less with humans there are additional pyshcological factors but the basic premise holds true. So basically since we developed agriculture that could increase the yields of crops/cattle beyond those that would naturally occur the human species has been in a time of surplus (population increases), as population increases the demand for food increases to support the population but due to advances in agriculture over time and the scaling up that surplus has always managed to keep ahead of the demand (yes in reality its never distributed evenly but statistically there's plenty of food for everyone take note of this cus it will be mentioned later and you need to remember this to make sense). After a certain point that kinda growth has an impact on the environment that is simply unbalancing, now we get to global warming, we're at the point where the want (not demand) for the amount of food is so high that people are destroying the environment directly (deforestation) to provide arable land Point 1. of unbalancing, this food then provides additional unbalancing properties, first its own waste products (further destruction of local environment, in the case of cattle large scale and production of methane which is one of the biggest greenhouse gases, fertilizers/pesticides in the case of crops). Add in the transport damage and wastage factor's and you can see something as simple as feeding the species as a whole has a contribution to global warming that simply cannot be countered. Basically the human species has grown too much for its environment to adequately support it, normally natural factors would kick in to limit the size of the population but we've found ways around that but those factors are now growing to such an extent that they have overcome our ability to contend with them, yet we haven't reached the point where they're impinging on population growth but that will appear over time, we'll probably see a decline as well unless we think our way out of the situation, the poorest area's are more likely to feel the effects first but these area's are also some of the biggest providers of food to the rest of the world so once the effects do kick in they will spread quickly causing indirect effects including condensing of the species into a smaller area thus further reducing land available for food production, (self reinforcing) this is mostly likely to the be the greatest danger to the survival of the species as we're more likely to go to war over land at this point, nukes unlikely but land wars very brutal.
Marisal	Posted - 2008.05.18 01:44:00 - [118] Global warming is nothing new its happened before, ever wondered why there's fossils of sea creatures several miles inland, the human species has survived through probably harsher conditions after all we survived through the last ice age admittedly with a smaller population due to lack of food but that's the limiting factor to the human population, to any population really. In short global warming, population cycles nothing new we've just done them on a scale never seen before and made them go a little faster.
OUTLANDOS	Posted - 2008.05.18 02:12:00 - [119] Linkage 4 years u monkies....!
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.18 03:45:00 - [120] Edited by: Amastat on 18/05/2008 03:46:20 Edited by: Amastat on 18/05/2008 03:45:07 Originally by: Marisal Global warming is nothing new its happened before, ever wondered why there's fossils of sea creatures several miles inland, the human species has survived through probably harsher conditions after all we survived through the last ice age admittedly with a smaller population due to lack of food but that's the limiting factor to the human population, to any population really. In short global warming, population cycles nothing new we've just done them on a scale never seen before and made them go a little faster. Aye all of that is true. The long way of putting it :P My overall point is that because of our intelligence and the way we live, this allows our stupid people to survive and live, which is why there is so much crap and stupidity in this world. If it wasn't for the way we work, and societies, all the stupid parts of the world populous would of gotten eaten by some tigers or something - for being stupid; natural selection ftw That isn't the case though - so, we just have to deal with it; even though some of them even drag down the rest of society, or even get everyone else all killed. Which is kinda why, though I'm not fearful of the world going to ** - It does kinda me off that I could possibly die, along with the rest of the populous, all because of another group of people who are absolute morons. So yea - if the environment gets so bad that the surface of the planet is no longer habitable, before we all die - you can expect everyone forming a mob to rip apart anyone who owned a Hummer and intentionally dumped ** into the air and lakes just to wave their imaginary pen*ses for everyone to see. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the

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