Originally by: Marmios

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Edited by: Marmios on 16/05/2008 12:17:37
100 % agree to Hardin. I can understand, that CCP doenst want 30+ Cap Fleets in FW to crush the noobs trying PvP but this case will be hard to solve. Atleast to hard to satisfy your long term customers in 0.0 and player alliances.

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Originally by: Atreides Horza

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Originally by: Sykosys

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Ok this idea sucks for people like me.

Why??

Im the ceo of my corp in ushrakhan. I cant just up and leave my corp. We have a pretty crazy logistics infrastructure around our corp let alone the alliance.

This idea for FW really shafts alot of the RP groups for this reason.

The majority of RP alliance have done all sorts of backsotry things even RP events (Ever been in pator during one heh)

CCP even began throwing us bones at one point with the defiant arc. It was great. . .but now this?

I am a dissapointed.

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I see your problem.

Still, there are - I guess - ways around that in a roleplaying sense, isn't there? Create a seperate corp and call it 'Crusaders of Ushra Kan' or some sh*t, grab those of your members who want to zoom off and fight for the holy land - and then go have your fun.

In your own sense, you're the King of England. You wanna f*ck off to fight a holy war, you should do that - but at the risk of your evil brother being a d*ck in your house and playing grab-@ss with the local farmer girls while your gone. It's classic history!

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Originally by: kworld

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Edited by: kworld on 16/05/2008 17:39:53

It's all about control, the 0.0 alliances/corps dont like this idea because they will no longer be in conrtrol its that simple and so what i say!

If people want to leave there alliance/corp to have fun in faction war so be it! If you dont like it just stay in 0.0 no one is asking you to join faction i wish people will stop being control freaks and stop crying about it.

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Originally by: kworld

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Edited by: kworld on 16/05/2008 19:19:20


Well said Ashar KorAzor and to the people that are crying about it you all need to stop now! how pathetic, this game doesnt evolve around you.

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Originally by: kworld

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Originally by: Sykosys

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Originally by: kworld

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Edited by: kworld on 16/05/2008 19:19:20


Well said Ashar KorAzor and to the people that are crying about it you all need to stop now! how pathetic, this game doesnt evolve around you.

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You didnt read her entire post

Do you RP KWorld? Are you going to sign up for a Faction when this comes up to join in the faction wars? Do you care about this change?

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I am not sure what i will be doing but complaining about it here isnt going to change anything my friend.

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Originally by: kworld

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Edited by: kworld on 16/05/2008 19:46:05

Originally by: Bad Harlequin

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Yep i see your point but you dont have to join fw so lets say ccp doesnt impelment fw yuo dont get to join in it or lets say they do implement it you have a choice to join fw or not so what is the prob the only prob i see is losing control over a corporation.

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sigh. maybe i can say it in a way you can understand:

i dunno why u complaining so much about ppl being upset lol since it doesnt affect u why can u say other ppl cant be upset about losing out on something they spent years ebing told was going to be for them so the prob is it maeks no sens to be spending years fightin fr an ideal and then when everyone else starts really fighting for it you can't because you already are.

OKAY??!

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Originally by: M'ing Pai

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Originally by: Garreck

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Wow, folks have a knack for missing the point entirely.

No, there's no Imperial mandate to reclaim Providence. There's no mandate at all that CVA is acting upon (beyond the cultural mandate already addressed.)

In fact, there's no real mandate for any roleplay corp or alliance out there.

None at all.

We've had to make it up as we go.

Meanwhile, constant communication between the roleplay community and, just as an example, Ginger, has been going on, with the RP community crying out for help from CCP to make the roleplay atmosphere in Eve more substantial, more real. A roleplay atmosphere that has an impact on the game and matters.

We were told it was coming.

Now it's here.

And it excludes a very large number of us.

That's our grievance, that's all. We'll make it work somehow, but after years of making it up as we go under the promise of eventual help from CCP...this is kind of a sad ending. Or beginning. Or whatever.

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RPing is usually about making it up as you go along. After several years of this, I'm sure you'll find a creative solution, and somehow work it into your fiction. The fact that CCP didn't cater to your every whim with this expansion doesn't mean you're excluded, it just means you now how a difficult choice.

As is stated above, it doesn't exclude any of you. It's open to everyone.

Can I be a member of my corporation and my alliance and participate in this content? NO. Nexa isn't having TRAPS join the faction anytime soon, and the Privateers aren't really interested in this content. It doesn't fit within either of their playstyles.

Looks like you're not the only one who has to make a decision. We ALL do. If I had my druthers, you could register with a militia and still be part of the corp you've been with and grown to love over the past 9 months. Unfortunately, that's not an option for me. It's either one or the other.

Do you hear me whining about it? Nosir... nor will you.

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Originally by: M'ing Pai

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Originally by: Tyr Vaantau

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Ming Pai...the credibility of your argument shoots straight out of the window as soon as you mentioned the Amarrian Emperor.

...There isn't one.

Since you didn't know even that, I'm honestly not sure I can trust the rest of your argument either.

That said, if FW is intended as a low-sec filler, then I can see perfect reasoning for not allowing alliances to join in, since alliances, and most of the gameplay mechanics they use, are intended mostly for 0.0 space.

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No, the credibility of my argument still stands. There is no Imperial mandate, or I would have heard about it in the news. Sorry I don't know much more about Amarrian politics or religion other than what I read in the news blurbs: I've never really cared about a band of religious fanatics who think enslaving other people is a good idea.

I DO care about Providence, though, and I HAVE flown with CVA pilots when I was part of NOS before it disappeared. I have seen CVA protect the enemies of TRAPS without asking why we're fighting them: only hearing their side of the story, and setting us to red for defending our honor. I've seen nothing from their alliance that impresses me, and this thread hasn't changed that one bit.

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Originally by: Lyra Garris

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Five years ago, you were given a plot of land on which you could do anything. Many people were given plots of land to do things with. On your plot of land, you wanted a house.

Years went by. The government which gave you the land did not give you any assistance. You used the tools you had available and started building. At first what you built was little more than a shack made of scrap metal. But you learned and you got better. Your shack became a shed, which became a hovel. You continued to ask the government for support, and you never got any. You persevered. Your hovel became a cottage, which became a proper house. Still seeing no government support, you carried on, building a bigger house, one with two stories, digging a basement, decorating and furnishing and improving your house. After five years, you had a home you could be proud of. The government begins dropping hints that a house improvement program is coming, and that your house is high on their list of priorities. You get excited, since you can do so much more with government support.

Then the government tells you they have houses available for you, but you have to destroy yours first.

Wouldn't you be a bit ****ed off?

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