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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.03.10 09:22:00 -
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The problem with CCP constantly updating the numbers is that you'll *never* get ahead. Would you be asking them to update the numbers if all PI goods suddenly doubled in ISK value?
We're in a bit of a recession in PI goods because the expected "immediate" demand from the destruction of existing COs (and the immediate need to build thousands of POCOs) never happened. So all the speculation from December 2011 has to be given time to work itself back out of the market and for the gold-rush to be over.
At which point, prices will stabilize at some new level.
Long-term, CCP needs to add more and more blueprints which use PI ingredients as part of the manufacturing step. That iteration is something that they have not really done well.
(Obvious candidate would be the introduction of implant BPCs. Or changing some existing blueprints to start requiring trace amounts of PI materials. With the "faction BPC" blueprints probably being the easiest to change without upsetting the market.) |

Heathkit
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:09:00 -
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Salcon Cliff wrote:Make it like property tax...when the basis goes down, the rates go up!  This was meant as a joke, but it's also a good point. From a nullsec perspective, the total taxes you pay are essentially rent for having access to a poco in defended space. If base prices go down, rates would likely go up to maintain the same income level.
That said, I do think CCP should update the base prices regularly to reflect market reality, but it should be on a defined, predictable schedule since it can have such a huge effect on alliance income. Twice a year seems reasonable.
Also, implant blueprints that use PI good is an excellent idea. Scrapyard Bob for CSM Chairman. I would love to see implant blueprints (or even BPCs) that take some quantity of p3s and a certain amount of corpses. It's high time that corpses became a valid industry input.
Also also, this is just crazy talk, but what if you could manufacture datacores from PI goods? That would allow completely independent T2 production in nullsec. |

Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
172
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:04:00 -
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Diamaht Nevain wrote:What I'm saying is that taxes are not baked into the pricing with this system. Someone at 10% tax rate cannot compete with someone at 3% tax rate. Playing and monitoring the market is not as important as customs office ownership. An industrious corp would simply find great planets, take over the customs, set it to 1% for corp members and rule the market.
You need the size and capability to defend your assets though, so a corp of some size is needed. Taxes are not baked in because we are not all paying the same rates. They've turned PI into a sort of mini sovereignty for low sec.
And that, was exactly the point. Working as intended I'd say.
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:18:00 -
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LowSec. All problems solved, I'm making a ton of ISK without having to worry about taxes For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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