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Doctor Dre	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:12:00 - [1] Ive played almost all of them. Among my faves: Heroes of MM Space Empires Homeworld CoD 4 (way too short) Transport Tycoon Max Payne Starcraft When I say Ive played almost all games, I mean it. The problem is I cant find a game that keeps my attention for more than a few hours. Graphics are not a huge issue here, I prefer higher game mechanics without having too much micro-management. Civilization games were fun but required too much attention. Getting too old and dumb to compete in twitch games (FPS). Heroes was a fantastic game but they sacrificed gameplay for graphics starting at about #3. Im open for suggestions! Please keep in mind that I am trying to find a single player game to get into. I may jusy have to stick with homeworld forever...
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:14:00 - [2] Freelancer Sins of a Solar Empire (like Galactic Civ) [No campaign tho, just skirmishes and multiplayer) Portal/Orange Box Bioshock Assassin's Creed Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
mohawk saavy	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:20:00 - [3] Originally by: Atomos Darksun Freelancer Sins of a Solar Empire (like Galactic Civ) [No campaign tho, just skirmishes and multiplayer) Portal/Orange Box Bioshock Assassin's Creed Played them all. Assassin's Creed was OK. Reminded me of hitman kinda. Maybe I should be more clear and say I am looking for a game that is NOT main-stream as I've given about 95% of those a fair run. DefCon - everyone dies is fantastic. Games like that. Not a lot of popularity but well-written.
Doctor Dre	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:23:00 - [4] ^- alt is stupid
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:26:00 - [5] Warcraft III and it's expansion Frozen Throne. Damn why do you have to ask the hard questions? Dawn of War Oblivion (pretty mainstream) Freespace I rather liked Star Wars: Jedi Academy and if you happen to have a gamecube or PS2 lying around Star Wars: Bounty Hunter was a great game. Universe at War I heard was pretty good. Hitman series. Beyond Good + Evil Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
mamolian Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:28:00 - [6] Played Time Shift recently, good laugh. Also Assassins Creed was awesome :) -----------
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:56:00 - [7] I see you mentioned Heroes, but... Master of Orion 2 ? The first one was halfway decent, the third one was horrible, but the second one is still a game that's almost always installed on any machine I own. __ CSM candidates - quick reference cards (NEW: spreadsheet) Or just vote for LaVista Vista or Leandro Salazar like I did.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.05.17 03:58:00 - [8] If you haven't done it yet. Download Gametap. Without a subscription you don't get access to most of their stuff, but games like Blood Omen 2, Hitman 1&2, Tomb Raider: Legend, Mr.Robot, Psychonauts, Rogue Trooper, Second Sight and Thief:Deadly Shadows should keep you busy for at least a few weeks. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.05.17 05:50:00 - [9] Overlord was good, remarkably good actually. Mass effect is coming to PC the 28th ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.17 06:16:00 - [10] Universe at War is the best RTS I've played in years, it blows Generals, Act of War, and C&C3 out of the water, I like it better then Sup Com, the factions are really diverse and interesting, while retaining balance, I'd put it on the level of the original Starcraft in terms of gameplay. _________ Dynamic Maps

Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.17 06:48:00 - [11] If you just looking for a massive time sink, you cant go wrong with Silent Hunter 4.... damn that game takes forever to get anywhere () () (â;..;)â (")(")
Zalathar Minmatar Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.17 07:48:00 - [12] I could recommend oblivion. I bought game of the year edition for pcp, and got over 130 game hours out of it. It does not require too much mircomanagement or reflexes, and is quite fun. And it looks nice. PS: buy it on PC so you can dowload mods. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Kyrall Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.17 09:27:00 - [13] Edited by: Kyrall on 17/05/2008 09:32:59 Edited by: Kyrall on 17/05/2008 09:29:09 Civilization 4 is pretty damn good, and at around 50 hours per game, it makes a decent time sink! It's now on Steam for a fairly reasonable price, the add-ons are possibly worth it if you like it a lot, though maybe leave them till you get bored of it and then come back a couple of months later... Edit: Oops I missed that you said about Civ. Oh well, I still recommend them as they are pure awesome! 2nd edit: Civ has too much micro-management, but you consider Transport Tycoon to be a favourite?!?! Don't tell me you played that game but *didn't* fine tune every little stretch of railway track to be at the absolute peak of efficiency! Ahh the many happy hours eaten up by that game... - Originally by: Kyrall Pfft antivirus? Real men use a hard drive tank.
The LT Caldari	Posted - 2008.05.17 16:15:00 - [14] Company of Heroes, I love that game, but whatever floats yer boat
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:18:00 - [15] You can have alot of fun with Garry's mod for HL2
David Detritus Gallente Freedom From Fear Industries	Posted - 2008.05.17 17:58:00 - [16] agreed, GMod is about the most fun you can have out of $10 heres some I thought of: The Suffering (PS2/XBOX only i think) Freedom Fighters Operation Flashpoint Batman Begins
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.05.17 18:12:00 - [17] Thief: Deadly Shadows Just remember to stay out of the light. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag
Akiba Penrose Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2008.05.17 19:16:00 - [18] If you like Homeworld there is a good chance you'll like Haegemonia. Last game i played before i discovered EVE
Rulkez Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.	Posted - 2008.05.17 19:37:00 - [19] World in Conflict or Company of Heroes, both games about as good as the RTS genre can get.
Kyanzes Amarr Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.05.17 19:42:00 - [20] Spaceforce: Rogue Universe --------------------------------------------- GET TO THE CHOPPA!!! The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Raymond Sterns Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.05.17 22:55:00 - [21] Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 Those should keep you busy for a while if you haven't played them before. _
mamolian Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:29:00 - [22] Edited by: mamolian on 18/05/2008 06:33:11 Edited by: mamolian on 18/05/2008 06:30:18 Originally by: Kyanzes Spaceforce: Rogue Universe Have they fixed it?? That was some a gigantic steaming pile of unintuitive ****.. Played the starting mission was complete rubbish, and the only game I've ever uninstalled in rage after 5 minutes.. Then felt ashamed.. reinstalled.. and played for another 10 minutes.. then uninstalled it again.. Even WOW got 5 hours of my life.. and thats saying alot tbh -----------
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.18 07:03:00 - [23] Sexy Beach 2 OR Battle Raper 2 ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Spaztick	Posted - 2008.05.18 07:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Erotic Irony Sexy Beach 2 OR Battle Raper 2 You're tempting me to google the things you say. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Gone'Postal Minmatar Scoopex The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:00:00 - [25] Originally by: Erotic Irony Sexy Beach 2 OR Battle Raper 2 OH.... Takes a look at his NAS Sexy Beach2 Schoolmate Bible Black Artifical Girl 2,3 Oppai Baka Mamoiro Paradise Rapelay True Love Cafe Junkies Sexual Battle D + more but I don't have Battle Raper 2!!!!! But yes, Fallout 1,2, Star Wars Supermercy (Old but still good) Questions, Comments, Problems, Please address them to the CSM.. Now CCP Never have to visit the forum. -V8I-
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:08:00 - [26] * Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (FPS/Twitch but single player, lots of fun/atmosphere, but not much replayability) * Sacred Other than that, I can't think of anything that'd be fun enough for me to play atm (I also have a long gaming career ;-)). I'd fancy a game or 2 of Master of Orion 2 though (if I could find it). EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:30:00 - [27] Darwinia! 族---族 Latest Video : Relentless
Doctor Dre	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:55:00 - [28] Sacred was good for a while. Darwinia is very fun! (I think those are the same guys who made Everyone Dies) Come to think of it, I may have lost my gaming capacity altogether There has not been a game that could hold my interests for longer than a short while. Maybe a day or two at most. The problem is I see so many faults and ability to min/max them right off the bat that makes them no fun for me. Right now I am spending some time playing Space Invasion (kinda like the ikariam thing) which has kept me somewhat attentive for 3 days now. Thanks for the pointers folks, but I might be reaching the twilight where these things cant keep my attention anymore. And to the guy who said transport tycoon was not micro-managey: i loved that game so much, but i got to a point where i could setup an entire rail system without screwing up. No tweaking necessary. Over 48 trains servicing the same station with no stalls, full 4 leaf clover systems and roll-on/roll-off systems. That is a GREAT game.
Doctor Dre	Posted - 2008.05.18 10:04:00 - [29] There was an old game I played which I could have sworn went by the name 'Syndicate' but every search I have done came up with a completely different game. This game had research, a stock market, a mail system with missions, and a RTS all rolled up into one. You could research mechs, weapons, tanks, troops, and all sorts of junk then choose your battles. Then you could customize your units how you saw fit and send them into battle. this was possibly 92-96, anyone have any ideas?
Ex0101 Gallente Malicious Intentions Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.05.18 10:10:00 - [30] Edited by: Ex0101 on 18/05/2008 10:10:50 Originally by: Doctor Dre There was an old game I played which I could have sworn went by the name 'Syndicate' but every search I have done came up with a completely different game. This game had research, a stock market, a mail system with missions, and a RTS all rolled up into one. You could research mechs, weapons, tanks, troops, and all sorts of junk then choose your battles. Then you could customize your units how you saw fit and send them into battle. this was possibly 92-96, anyone have any ideas? This is Syndicate > http://www.bestoldgames.net/eng/old-games/syndicate.php Absolute classic. And then they did the sequel Syndicate Wars which was also brilliant and a little more brutal :) --

Doctor Dre	Posted - 2008.05.18 10:17:00 - [31] Nah man thats not it. thats the game ive been finding instead. Use your brain! I said ive searched for it and the game you pointed to was the only one that came up.
Blue Binary Polychoron	Posted - 2008.05.18 10:18:00 - [32] Originally by: Doctor Dre ... Homeworld ... Transport Tycoon ... If you enjoyed Transport Tycoon you will like Railroad Tycoon 3 (Reviews). The thing about this game is you don't actually have to build a railroad empire. You can build/purchase industries and play around with the stock market. The economy is simulated (recessions & booms), so you can see the effect on the economy and your bottom line. You have to be pretty shrewd during the recession periods otherwise the company of directors will sack you (you have to keep the shareholders sweet), but if you buy enough shares you can effectively control your company. Or you can just play with the trains, it's up to you what level of depth you play at. The stock market is pretty good for a game. You can buy stock on margin, make hostile takeovers, crash the share price, see a detailed breakdown on how the company is performing. You can effectively play this game as Industry Tycoon. I very much enjoyed the music in this game, which is not really something i listen to. I always let the intro run for some reason. Did you like Homeworld? Enjoy Eve? Of course you do. You would probably like Nexus: The Jupiter Incident (gameplay video). A tactical fleet simulator which is pretty close to Eve in terms of combat. Mission driven storyline, control multiple ships, target subsystems, and enjoy using those nuclear missles at the end of the game (they seriously light up your screen and not much comes through an alpha strike ). It's a shame Nexus 2 never made it... ____________ Blue B⁫⁫⁫⁫inary
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.18 14:51:00 - [33] just watched the nexus 2 video again... still amazed that it never went into production and such :s Wonder how much you can emulate with modding nexus I?
Shirley Serious Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.18 16:28:00 - [34] Originally by: Doctor Dre There was an old game I played which I could have sworn went by the name 'Syndicate' but every search I have done came up with a completely different game. This game had research, a stock market, a mail system with missions, and a RTS all rolled up into one. You could research mechs, weapons, tanks, troops, and all sorts of junk then choose your battles. Then you could customize your units how you saw fit and send them into battle. this was possibly 92-96, anyone have any ideas? Are you sure that's not one of the Mechwarrior games (early ones)
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.18 21:29:00 - [35] I just bought Prey over Steam and finished it in about 11 hours ... Amazing stuff, worth getting if you're into fps adventures and can afford the ~$25 or so for a couple of hours of fun. Replayability is probably not there, but hey, it's better than watching 10 good movies. ;-) EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
Hedian	Posted - 2008.05.18 22:00:00 - [36] Go for medieval 2: total war. That game is a bit of a combination between turned based and real time strategy. managing your empire is a bit like civ, while combat is more like Heroes although this is in full 3d, realtime and alot more fun. It's always a rush when you see your +1000 man army charge in on the enemy. or when your egyptian archers are perched on a hill and are sending volley after volley of arrows down on heavy armoured christian knights, man i love that game and i hate myself for throwing the cd away. i can't really explain the game so here's a link to a vid(hope it gives you some idea about battle in medieval2). in game battle
April Wall	Posted - 2008.05.18 22:43:00 - [37] Originally by: Lithalnas Mass effect is coming to PC the 28th Nuff said
Bad Harlequin Minmatar Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.05.18 22:58:00 - [38] Originally by: Akita T I see you mentioned Heroes, but... Master of Orion 2 ? The first one was halfway decent, the third one was horrible, but the second one is still a game that's almost always installed on any machine I own. Seconded! MOO III was like - ok, i've booted the spreadsheet and the computer seems to be having a good time. When do i get to play? Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 00:09:00 - [39] MOO III wasn't that bad once you got in to it. Nothing close to MOO II, but still plenty playable. In fact, its all the worse if you go in there expecting MOO II; the gameplay is angled completely differently. Its a slow starter, but once you learn to tune your mind in to the "grand strategy" (and tune your mind out from those bloody spreadsheets), it's quite pleasant watching your trillion-person empire expand and dominate. The real shame with it is that it was half finished; half of the features that were promised (some of which would have made the spreadsheet game a hundred times easier and more interesting) just never made it in to the release, and were never patched in. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:14:00 - [40] Originally by: Hedian Go for medieval 2: total war. That game is a bit of a combination between turned based and real time strategy. managing your empire is a bit like civ, while combat is more like Heroes although this is in full 3d, realtime and alot more fun. It's always a rush when you see your +1000 man army charge in on the enemy. or when your egyptian archers are perched on a hill and are sending volley after volley of arrows down on heavy armoured christian knights, man i love that game and i hate myself for throwing the cd away. i can't really explain the game so here's a link to a vid(hope it gives you some idea about battle in medieval2). in game battle I can't wait for Empire:TW to come out.

Forum Warrior	Posted - 2008.05.19 13:12:00 - [41] http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ http://www.spidweb.com/geneforge/index.html http://neurohack.com/transcendence/ http://www.moonpod.com/English/about_ss.php some good indies, have a look.
Kusha'an Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.05.19 13:30:00 - [42] Deus Ex - More stealth than twitch, and RPG/FPS System Shock 2 (can download for free from underdogs) Serious Sam 2 Wing Commander Prophecy ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Blue Binary Polychoron	Posted - 2008.05.19 19:13:00 - [43] I have hazy memories of Cyberjudas (reviews), it was a game i played about 10 years ago. It is a complex game to master, and it takes ages to get through. You are the US president and control Military-Economic-Intelligence assets and it's up to you what you do with the world. You have to maintain popularity at home and maintain peace abroad, all the while watching your own back to avoid being stabbed in the back. I recall the game claimed it based it's statistical data for countries on CIA data; probably well out of date by now though. I remember converting parts Africa to free Democratic/Capitalist states, launching surgical strikes in Libya and unintentionally kicking off a thermonuclear exchange in Central Europe. It can take many turns to see the consequences of your actions and is very much a game of patience and diplomacy. It wasn't really a popular mainstream game though. Wiki summary. ____________ Blue B⁫⁫⁫⁫inary
nihlanth Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.19 21:27:00 - [44] Edited by: nihlanth on 19/05/2008 21:36:27 Edited by: nihlanth on 19/05/2008 21:27:14 You should definately play X3 - Reunion 2.0. It is an open-ended space combat sim like EVE, except it is only single player and the combat is first-person twitch based joystick style(although challenging and fun). You dont have to do the story or any missions and just build an empire in the X3 universe (though not as large as the New Eden galaxy). The mechanics are nearly as complex as EvE, so you will feel that overwhelming learning curve that eve online has. (be prepared to spend many hours reading all the different manuals that are available on the forums, and the manual on the disk.) The great thing about X3 is that you dont need to create alts and pay $14/month for an account. As you build you advance through the game, you can build an empire by automating your trading ships and combat ships to fight along side you. You can also build your own complexs and factories. There are 5-6 factions much like the factions in eve that have their own little unique philospohies on ship design.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:09:00 - [45] Edited by: Patch86 on 19/05/2008 22:10:17 Oh, while we're on the old sci-fi 4x games, you might want to give Emperor of the Fading Suns a go. Big, grand-scale turn based strategy game, where you control one "house" of an interstellar feudal civilization, and you've got to fight, trade, scheme and schmooze your way to the top (in theory, eventually getting crowned Emperor for a win). The plot was a complete Dune rip-off, and the learning curve made EVE look like tiddlywinks, but it's up there with the greats in terms of sheer imaginative scope. At Wikipedia. For download at HOTU. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Akiba Penrose Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2008.05.20 09:48:00 - [46] Maybe ICC? "The mother of all games" The graphics isnt all that,, but pretty good gameplay. Both singel and multiplayer. Big community aswell.
Rutefly Amarr Freedom-Technologies	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:19:00 - [47] Install a decent amiga emulator and get F.O.F.T. Seen it on the net. Not sure if its abandonware yet. Try home of underdogs in generelfor weird free games. M.U.L.E etc.
Zynai	Posted - 2008.05.20 16:54:00 - [48] Originally by: Shalia Ripper Originally by: Hedian Go for medieval 2: total war. That game is a bit of a combination between turned based and real time strategy. managing your empire is a bit like civ, while combat is more like Heroes although this is in full 3d, realtime and alot more fun. It's always a rush when you see your +1000 man army charge in on the enemy. or when your egyptian archers are perched on a hill and are sending volley after volley of arrows down on heavy armoured christian knights, man i love that game and i hate myself for throwing the cd away. i can't really explain the game so here's a link to a vid(hope it gives you some idea about battle in medieval2). in game battle I can't wait for Empire:TW to come out. Me neither! Naval combat looks awesome.
Hedian	Posted - 2008.05.20 16:55:00 - [49] Edited by: Hedian on 20/05/2008 16:55:27 Originally by: Shalia Ripper Originally by: Hedian Go for medieval 2: total war. That game is a bit of a combination between turned based and real time strategy. managing your empire is a bit like civ, while combat is more like Heroes although this is in full 3d, realtime and alot more fun. It's always a rush when you see your +1000 man army charge in on the enemy. or when your egyptian archers are perched on a hill and are sending volley after volley of arrows down on heavy armoured christian knights, man i love that game and i hate myself for throwing the cd away. i can't really explain the game so here's a link to a vid(hope it gives you some idea about battle in medieval2). in game battle I can't wait for Empire:TW to come out. Me neither. Naval combat looks awesome!


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