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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216 San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:21:00 -
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I doubt they will have anything worth saying. That said, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Bah! /signed
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Trent Valtine
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:50:00 -
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Signed, Trent Valtine, Mining Officer of Strix Armaments and Defence
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John Tanashima
Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:51:00 -
[33]
Signed
John Tanashima, Caldari citizen, Ekchuah Incorporated CEO
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Eve Spair
Caldari Black Mesa
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Posted - 2008.05.18 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Eve Spair on 18/05/2008 15:26:09 *signed
Eve Spair Mining Captain Black Mesa Corporation
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El'basin
Amarr Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.18 16:27:00 -
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/signed
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Azia Burgi
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.05.18 17:39:00 -
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I hate to stir the pot but... the Minmatar republic haven't said anything either. As a nation founded through terrorism they would know how to train someone to do this.
Perhaps fingers should be pointed towards them as well.
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John Tanashima
Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.18 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Azia Burgi I hate to stir the pot but... the Minmatar republic haven't said anything either. As a nation founded through terrorism they would know how to train someone to do this.
Perhaps fingers should be pointed towards them as well.
Except that no republic fleet Hel was seen near the attack site with a crazed freedom fighter crying for revenge...
Yes, no reason at all for the republic to have nothing to say...
John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated |

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 18:44:00 -
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/signed (though I dont' think it really matters what the Gallente say - the actions of one of their Admirals speak loud enough)
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Dionisius
Gallente The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2008.05.18 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Azia Burgi I hate to stir the pot but... the Minmatar republic haven't said anything either. As a nation founded through terrorism they would know how to train someone to do this.
Perhaps fingers should be pointed towards them as well.
The Republic was founded with the remnants of a civilization that was brutally enslaved and atacked by the Amarrians.
Their disputes are the ones of a wealthy nation in formation, and its only natural that such quarrels take place in a society that mixes tribal traditions with republican ones.
You have no right to call them terrorists, even less right to implicate them in a matter that is strictly the business of Gallenteans and Caldari. _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief. |

Kersh Marelor
Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.18 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius You have no right to call them terrorists, even less right to implicate them in a matter that is strictly the business of Gallenteans and Caldari.
Now you claim that the intergalactic conflict between Gallente and Caldari is their exclussive buisiness, yet you had no problem with arming and equiping the mentioned non-terrorists as they rebelled against the Amarr Empire? Seems to me a lot of Federation citizens see themselves as the manifestation of the galactic justice of sorts. I wonder what are your thoughts about those of the gallenteans who to this day say that Caldari State should never have existed? If we brutally enslaved and attacked the Minmatar centuries ago, yet can recognize and tolerate them now without shoving an Aeon into their spacestations, who are you Federate loyalist?
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Hae t'Redd
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.05.18 23:38:00 -
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/Signed but I doubt we'll get one.
More and more Gallente seem to have only this response.
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Vreena
Caldari Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:21:00 -
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Signed.
Vreena Shimare Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
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Dionisius
Gallente The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dionisius on 19/05/2008 00:31:33
Originally by: Kersh Marelor
Originally by: Dionisius You have no right to call them terrorists, even less right to implicate them in a matter that is strictly the business of Gallenteans and Caldari.
Now you claim that the intergalactic conflict between Gallente and Caldari is their exclussive buisiness, yet you had no problem with arming and equiping the mentioned non-terrorists as they rebelled against the Amarr Empire? Seems to me a lot of Federation citizens see themselves as the manifestation of the galactic justice of sorts. I wonder what are your thoughts about those of the gallenteans who to this day say that Caldari State should never have existed? If we brutally enslaved and attacked the Minmatar centuries ago, yet can recognize and tolerate them now without shoving an Aeon into their spacestations, who are you Federate loyalist?
This is a matter to be solved between the Federation and the Caldari State, as far as we all know there has been no direct involvement from either the Minmatar Republic or the Amarr Empire, so answering your question directly, Yes. This issue , is to be solved and settled by both Gallenteans and Caldari only because it was,
1. A Federation Navy Flagship that was involved in the Incident. 2. A Caldari Station was almost destroyed. 3. Ishkune lost their CEO. 4. We lost or Financial Minister.
So as far as the facts are presented there were no " Minmatar Terrorists" in this scenery.
The disputes of past between Gallente and Caldari do not concern me, they are worthy and most important subject of study and a good source to learn from, but completely irrelevant to today's day-to-day life and politics.
So my position regarding your acusation is this, the Caldari State exists and i personally think that it is best to maintain good relations with our neighbours.
As to the final question who am i, i am Dionisius, capusuleer pilot former liaison member of the Garoun Bank and currently assigned as a liaison between The Circle Corporation and the Federal Intelligence Office.
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Kersh Marelor
Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.19 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:21:10 Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:20:30
Originally by: Dionisius This is a matter to be solved between the Federation and the Caldari State, as far as we all know there has been no direct involvement from either the Minmatar Republic or the Amarr Empire, so answering your question directly, Yes.
Involvement of the governments no, but victims yes. The matter is not exclusively between Caldai and Gallente.
Originally by: Dionisius So as far as the facts are presented there were no " Minmatar Terrorists" in this scenery.
My point is only that their nation was based on terrorist activity at crucial point escalated with the helping hand of Federation to civil war. Taking into account the past decades of further terroris attacks by Minmatar fanatics on the Empire, silently supported by their government, we do have the right to call them terrorists.
Originally by: Dionisius The disputes of past between Gallente and Caldari do not concern me, they are worthy and most important subject of study and a good source to learn from, but completely irrelevant to today's day-to-day life and politics.
Malkalen will be one of the relics proving what it means to underestimate the lessons of history.
Originally by: Dionisius So my position regarding your acusation is this, the Caldari State exists and i personally think that it is best to maintain good relations with our neighbours.
I did not accuse you of that. I just wanted to point your attention towards some other individuals we can hear these days. Very loudly.
Originally by: Dionisius As to the final question who am i, i am Dionisius, capusuleer pilot former liaison member of the Garoun Bank and currently assigned as a liaison between The Circle Corporation and the Federal Intelligence Office.
What I meant was asking you what is the Federation as such. If the Amarr were brutal towards the Minmatar, yet now we do not toss Aeon around their stations, then what can you say about the Federation?
EDIT: Typing
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Dionisius
Gallente The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kersh Marelor Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:21:10 Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:20:30
Originally by: Dionisius As to the final question who am i, i am Dionisius, capusuleer pilot former liaison member of the Garoun Bank and currently assigned as a liaison between The Circle Corporation and the Federal Intelligence Office.
What I meant was asking you what is the Federation as such. If the Amarr were brutal towards the Minmatar, yet now we do not toss Aeon around their stations, then what can you say about the Federation?
Well how to describe the whole Federation...
Democracy.
We may not be perfect, we may not be always right, but, we stand for freedom, freedom of speach, freedom to the individual to pursue his own goals and acomplish them to their full potential.
We are artisans, polititians, democrats, bureucrats, soldiers, people of the arts, homeless and rich.
We are stubburn, we are receptive to new ideias and ideials, we are vengefull and forgiving, we are cold and passionate, we are the defenders of freedom, the jail guard of opression.
We are perfect, we are unperfect.
We are human.
We are a colective of individuals, families, houses, organizations, we work towards progress and the comon good.
The Federation is me and all its citizens, from the poor beggar in the streets to the president in the senate.
Together we prosper, we suffer, we fight, we win, we loose, we acomplish, we fail, we start and finish.
We MR. Marelor, the Federation is WE.
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Kersh Marelor
Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.19 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius Together we prosper, we suffer, we fight, we win, we loose, we acomplish, we fail, we start and finish.
We MR. Marelor, the Federation is WE.
Poetic... touching even, though pretty much the same, give or take a few phrases, can be said by citizen of any of the nations in New Eden. May I ask whether thrusting the Wandering Saint into Ishukone station was manifestation of prosperity? Failure? Victory? For what freedom did Admiral Noir stand, should he be found guilty of this act which is most probable now? Because what he did acomplish, for the Federation and the New Eden, is certainly a lot of suffering and possibly a start of a huge war. How does plunging probably half of the Galaxy into war by one man, who was given sufficient tools for that by the Federation, support democracy?
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Dionisius
Gallente The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kersh Marelor
Originally by: Dionisius Together we prosper, we suffer, we fight, we win, we loose, we acomplish, we fail, we start and finish.
We MR. Marelor, the Federation is WE.
Poetic... touching even, though pretty much the same, give or take a few phrases, can be said by citizen of any of the nations in New Eden. May I ask whether thrusting the Wandering Saint into Ishukone station was manifestation of prosperity? Failure? Victory? For what freedom did Admiral Noir stand, should he be found guilty of this act which is most probable now? Because what he did acomplish, for the Federation and the New Eden, is certainly a lot of suffering and possibly a start of a huge war. How does plunging probably half of the Galaxy into war by one man, who was given sufficient tools for that by the Federation, support democracy?
It was the manifestation of tragedy for the people that died both aboard the Wandering Saint and the station.
The Federation still has to issue a comunication regarding this matter so we need to await and see what happened. _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief. |

Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:03:00 -
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Signed
Sahriah Bloodstone Pilot of The Crimson Federation
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Disruptorr
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:05:00 -
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/signed
Although my allegiance is now with the Amarr, Caldari still has a place with me. Gallente are no better than Minmatar scum.
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Stitcher
Caldari Rin-Ruuka Kyun
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:23:00 -
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We are now on the fourth day since impact.
In that time, Search and Rescue has been conducted, and then called off. The Caldari State in general, and Hyasyoda in particular have rushed to Ishukone's aid. Capsuleer corporations from across New Eden provided support, supplies and aid within hours or even minutes of the impact.
The logistical framework necessary to begin repairing the damage done has already put in place, high-ranking government agents across all four empires are contracting freelance capsuleers to help them assist in their nation's war preparation efforts, and hope that there are any survivors left on that station who have not been rescude is now dwindling almost to zero.
And yet the Federation remains stubbornly tight-lipped.
Why? there's been more than enough time for... well, pretty much anything. Where were the fleets of unarmed transports filled with desperately-needed supplies and manpower? Where was the official national apology? Where was the Federation-wide address from President Fioritain?
Failing all those more well-meaning options, where was the formal statement of war, or the proud claim to have struck "a mighty blow for democracy", or some similar fedo-gas?
There has been more than enough time for some Federation official somewhere to scribble down a speech, stand in front of a news camera and make an offical, international statement. It has not happened.
Your own people are demanding answers as well, Federation. If you truly are a democracy, I suggest you give them what they want. -
Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |

Jasper Mieville
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:05:00 -
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Signed
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Kersh Marelor
Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius It was the manifestation of tragedy for the people that died both aboard the Wandering Saint and the station.
It is no time to fiddle with words. What did the act of crashing a Nyx into non-hostile station manifest to New Eden about principles of the Gallente Federation.
Originally by: Dionisius The Federation still has to issue a comunication regarding this matter so we need to await and see what happened.
As Mr Stitcher already pointed out the announcement is already a very delayed one, on the brink of never being made. For me the silence of your govrnment is very meaningful though and it does not bear any of the pompatic phrases you so eagerly listed tonight. But maybe I am wrong. Tell we, what about the Federation do we learn by its absolute state of stasis and inaction towards the tragedy in Malkalen?
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Pliauga
Gallente Militek Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:19:00 -
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/signed
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:55:00 -
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The Gallente Federation has some serious questions to answer.
It will look very suspicious if they refuse to do so.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:58:00 -
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Yeah, Okay... I'll sign this one.
It'll be funny to see what kinda excuses the incompetent leadership of the FN can try to come up with...
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:07:00 -
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/signed
Would be nice to understand what is going on from within the Fed govt (officially at least)!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
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