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Ellyra Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:22:00 - [1] My fellow capsuleers, I am asking for your support in signing this petition to elicit an official response from the Gallente Federation following the tragic incident in Malkalen. I do realize that this issue was raised before in other discussions, the issue being the complete absence of an official statement or any response from the Gallente Federation. But in those other discussions the question was left unanswered and became overridden by more theories and accusations. I would kindly ask you not to use this petition to pose more theories, as this is the opposite of what I intend! The absence of any official statement is triggering all of that. A denial, a condemnation, an investigation. We demand something! Signed: Ellyra, Caldari citizen May the souls of the victims who fell in that dark day rest in peace. ____________________________________________ Start every day with a smile and get it over with
Jay Marshall Caldari Walks Forever Trade Inc	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:39:00 - [2] I second this petition. Let us see thier response. ------------------------ CEO Walks Forever Trade Inc
rValdez5987 Amarr Asylum Logistics	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:40:00 - [3] /signed I myself would also like to know what their feelings are on this matter. My views and opinions are my own.
Kira Agarn	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:44:00 - [4] They are not going to really apologize. If they were, they would have done so already. Anything now would be simply political to not seem like an agressive party.
Jake Dreadmore Caldari JotunHeim Hird Aurora Borealis Foundation	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:46:00 - [5] Signed Jake Dreadmore, Caldari capsul entrepreneur, Long live the state
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:47:00 - [6] Signed, Elsebeth Rhiannon Diplomat Electus Matari "Never again." -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:49:00 - [7] Signed, Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co.	Posted - 2008.05.17 21:51:00 - [8] Edited by: Thorek Ironbrow on 17/05/2008 21:53:02 Signed, Thorek Ironbrow, CEO of Ironbrow Industries Corporation. Keep things rolling... _____________________________ The Jove will return...
Willow Zuni Minmatar ZuniCorp	Posted - 2008.05.17 22:01:00 - [9] It is most troubling that there has been no official statement on this non-natural disaster. Although I am Matari my former partner was Caldari and I and our children share is our grief for the dead. Willow Zuni CEO, Zunicorp
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui	Posted - 2008.05.17 22:02:00 - [10] Signed, Verin Tarn-Hakatain, Caldari citizen and capsuleer. - Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
BloodBird Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.17 22:57:00 - [11] Signed Bloodbird, member of Decorum inc, Tygris alliance. Free Intaki and Federation loyalist. Sig source
Niko medes Gallente T.E.C. Industries	Posted - 2008.05.17 23:01:00 - [12] signed --------------------------------------
D'ceet Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.17 23:35:00 - [13] signed, D'ceet, PROUD citizen of the state. Official D'ceet CSM Page.
Kersh Marelor Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research	Posted - 2008.05.18 00:46:00 - [14] /Signed
Dominic Shandrasekkar	Posted - 2008.05.18 02:46:00 - [15] The time comes for the Federation to demonstrate its openness and transparency. Take this as an open invitation to educate us on this matter and teach by example, Souro Foiritan. I, Dominic Deattai-Shandrasekkar, CEO of House Shandrasekkar, hereby sign this petition.
Jewel Desire	Posted - 2008.05.18 03:07:00 - [16] /signed silence on their part is an acknowledgment of guilt on the Federation's part.
Kira Agarn	Posted - 2008.05.18 03:18:00 - [17] And Even with us requesting, The Federation has yet to offer a statement. I simply cannot believe this. Its...Dispicable.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:08:00 - [18] /signed Nachshon Kodor Minmatar citizen ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom My v
Mernor Akat Gallente The Black Dragon	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:12:00 - [19] Seeing as this is one of the reasons that I'm so angry at the Caldari for baying for blood, I'll gladly sign. /Signed
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:57:00 - [20] Yes, I would like to know, will the Federation recognize the actions of a hero, or will our President need to be shown the error of his ways by the Senate, led by a man who's election would have prevented such a noble sacrifice?
Leon 026 Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:00:00 - [21] The Federation's government will make a statement when it sees fit. Capsuleer rabble will certainly not get in the way of their diplomatic affairs. I suggest you all sit down and behave. ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings
Silver Night Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:24:00 - [22] I would sign this, but I can imagine their response: We were saddened by the regrettable* incident that occurred. No one had any idea of the Admiral's mental state, etc... *Note: This is different than apologizing. Saying sorry conveys responsibility, saying something is regrettable doesn't. Really. Read the press release of any politician caught in a misdeed anywhere. -------------- The Clown Man. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter
Gervais Zhang Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:27:00 - [23] A capsuleer was the agent of the Malkalan disaster. I don't think the Federation can afford to ignore us "rabble." I'd personally like to hear the official government statement. Either way, it won't diminish my support for the Federation as a people, as a culture, and as a nation, but it'll at least affect who I vote for in the next election. Strix is recruiting Federation patriots.
Thorradin State War Academy	Posted - 2008.05.18 07:24:00 - [24] I for one think their Federation's silence is a deafening message.
Remus Navillum LEGION OF DEATHADDERS	Posted - 2008.05.18 07:59:00 - [25] Edited by: Remus Navillum on 18/05/2008 08:01:40 Signed. And emphatically so. For all the time it's taken for them to (hopefully) come up with a statement, Foiritain and his cabinet had best be drafting an apology of epic proportions. If they try to play this off politically, I will be very, very disappointed in my government.
Redbad Minmatar Tempered Steel Legion	Posted - 2008.05.18 08:56:00 - [26] Signed, Redbad, CEO Tempered Steel Legion
Alexi Kalashnikov GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:17:00 - [27] The Gallente Federation owes no apology.
Leon 026 Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:48:00 - [28] Edited by: Leon 026 on 18/05/2008 09:53:23 Okay, let me put this simply because it seems the majority are either woefully ignorant, or have the mental capacity of a fedo stuck in an exhaust pipe. One of the Federation's most decorated pilots that was flying the super carrier for the talks decided to take hostile action and suicide-rammed his flagship into the side of the Ishukone headquarters. This has caused a humanitarian incident and a diplomatic incident of epic proportions due to the nature of events - not to mention this puts the question of whether 1) the Alexander Noir was acting alone, 2) how much order and control does the Federal Navy have over its officers, 3) the Federation's legitimacy and truthfulness as well as how open it is to future investigations. I'm not sure if you've actually realized this, but these events took place less than FOUR (4) days ago. How do you expect, let alone have the gall to demand an apology or even a statement if the Federation themselves are reeling from the shock and/or locking down assets to prevent escalation of conflicts? So sit down and behave, let the internal inquiries start and stop this flooding of left-wing populist petitioning on the GalNet. Its highly annoying. ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings
Fox Vulcan Gallente LYF Naval Academy	Posted - 2008.05.18 10:08:00 - [29] True enough. Many of us capsuleers havent recovered yet, let alone a bunch of bumbling politico's... I would like to see what they come up with though, and if they actually speak for the people they are supposed to represent. **************************** "For Honour and Glory."
Kersh Marelor Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research	Posted - 2008.05.18 14:01:00 - [30] Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 18/05/2008 14:02:02 Originally by: Leon 026 So sit down and behave, let the internal inquiries start and stop this flooding of left-wing populist petitioning on the GalNet. Its highly annoying. The Amarrian Theology Council had enough decency to call mourning. The corporations within Caldari State had enough decency to assist with the relief effort. The Gallente being involved from the very begining, theirs being the Wandering Saint and main suspect, decided to do nothing. No information of investigation, no mourning, no attempt to help save for brave capsulers to whom we all should be grateful. There is a great difference between taking your time to act while showing you're aware that you must act, and not doing anything. The Federation for some reason decided to sit back and enjoy the fire (literally).
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216 San Matari.	Posted - 2008.05.18 14:21:00 - [31] I doubt they will have anything worth saying. That said, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. Bah! /signed San Matari Official forums
Trent Valtine Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.05.18 14:50:00 - [32] Signed, Trent Valtine, Mining Officer of Strix Armaments and Defence
John Tanashima Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.18 14:51:00 - [33] Signed John Tanashima, Caldari citizen, Ekchuah Incorporated CEO John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated
Eve Spair Caldari Black Mesa	Posted - 2008.05.18 15:24:00 - [34] Edited by: Eve Spair on 18/05/2008 15:26:09 *signed Eve Spair Mining Captain Black Mesa Corporation
El'basin Amarr Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate The Omni Federation	Posted - 2008.05.18 16:27:00 - [35] /signed
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.18 17:39:00 - [36] I hate to stir the pot but... the Minmatar republic haven't said anything either. As a nation founded through terrorism they would know how to train someone to do this. Perhaps fingers should be pointed towards them as well. Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator EVE Cemetery
John Tanashima Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated	Posted - 2008.05.18 18:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Azia Burgi I hate to stir the pot but... the Minmatar republic haven't said anything either. As a nation founded through terrorism they would know how to train someone to do this. Perhaps fingers should be pointed towards them as well. Except that no republic fleet Hel was seen near the attack site with a crazed freedom fighter crying for revenge... Yes, no reason at all for the republic to have nothing to say... John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.18 18:44:00 - [38] /signed (though I dont' think it really matters what the Gallente say - the actions of one of their Admirals speak loud enough)
Dionisius Gallente The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.05.18 21:34:00 - [39] Originally by: Azia Burgi I hate to stir the pot but... the Minmatar republic haven't said anything either. As a nation founded through terrorism they would know how to train someone to do this. Perhaps fingers should be pointed towards them as well. The Republic was founded with the remnants of a civilization that was brutally enslaved and atacked by the Amarrians. Their disputes are the ones of a wealthy nation in formation, and its only natural that such quarrels take place in a society that mixes tribal traditions with republican ones. You have no right to call them terrorists, even less right to implicate them in a matter that is strictly the business of Gallenteans and Caldari. _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief.
Kersh Marelor Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research	Posted - 2008.05.18 21:41:00 - [40] Originally by: Dionisius You have no right to call them terrorists, even less right to implicate them in a matter that is strictly the business of Gallenteans and Caldari. Now you claim that the intergalactic conflict between Gallente and Caldari is their exclussive buisiness, yet you had no problem with arming and equiping the mentioned non-terrorists as they rebelled against the Amarr Empire? Seems to me a lot of Federation citizens see themselves as the manifestation of the galactic justice of sorts. I wonder what are your thoughts about those of the gallenteans who to this day say that Caldari State should never have existed? If we brutally enslaved and attacked the Minmatar centuries ago, yet can recognize and tolerate them now without shoving an Aeon into their spacestations, who are you Federate loyalist?
Hae t'Redd Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.18 23:38:00 - [41] /Signed but I doubt we'll get one. More and more Gallente seem to have only this response.
Vreena Caldari Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative	Posted - 2008.05.19 00:21:00 - [42] Signed. Vreena Shimare Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu ----- The above does not in any way reflect the views and opinions of my corporation or alliance...well it could, but let's not be presumptuous, okay?
Dionisius Gallente The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.05.19 00:31:00 - [43] Edited by: Dionisius on 19/05/2008 00:31:33 Originally by: Kersh Marelor Originally by: Dionisius You have no right to call them terrorists, even less right to implicate them in a matter that is strictly the business of Gallenteans and Caldari. Now you claim that the intergalactic conflict between Gallente and Caldari is their exclussive buisiness, yet you had no problem with arming and equiping the mentioned non-terrorists as they rebelled against the Amarr Empire? Seems to me a lot of Federation citizens see themselves as the manifestation of the galactic justice of sorts. I wonder what are your thoughts about those of the gallenteans who to this day say that Caldari State should never have existed? If we brutally enslaved and attacked the Minmatar centuries ago, yet can recognize and tolerate them now without shoving an Aeon into their spacestations, who are you Federate loyalist? This is a matter to be solved between the Federation and the Caldari State, as far as we all know there has been no direct involvement from either the Minmatar Republic or the Amarr Empire, so answering your question directly, Yes. This issue , is to be solved and settled by both Gallenteans and Caldari only because it was, 1. A Federation Navy Flagship that was involved in the Incident. 2. A Caldari Station was almost destroyed. 3. Ishkune lost their CEO. 4. We lost or Financial Minister. So as far as the facts are presented there were no " Minmatar Terrorists" in this scenery. The disputes of past between Gallente and Caldari do not concern me, they are worthy and most important subject of study and a good source to learn from, but completely irrelevant to today's day-to-day life and politics. So my position regarding your acusation is this, the Caldari State exists and i personally think that it is best to maintain good relations with our neighbours. As to the final question who am i, i am Dionisius, capusuleer pilot former liaison member of the Garoun Bank and currently assigned as a liaison between The Circle Corporation and the Federal Intelligence Office. _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief.
Kersh Marelor Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research	Posted - 2008.05.19 01:20:00 - [44] Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:21:10 Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:20:30 Originally by: Dionisius This is a matter to be solved between the Federation and the Caldari State, as far as we all know there has been no direct involvement from either the Minmatar Republic or the Amarr Empire, so answering your question directly, Yes. Involvement of the governments no, but victims yes. The matter is not exclusively between Caldai and Gallente. Originally by: Dionisius So as far as the facts are presented there were no " Minmatar Terrorists" in this scenery. My point is only that their nation was based on terrorist activity at crucial point escalated with the helping hand of Federation to civil war. Taking into account the past decades of further terroris attacks by Minmatar fanatics on the Empire, silently supported by their government, we do have the right to call them terrorists. Originally by: Dionisius The disputes of past between Gallente and Caldari do not concern me, they are worthy and most important subject of study and a good source to learn from, but completely irrelevant to today's day-to-day life and politics. Malkalen will be one of the relics proving what it means to underestimate the lessons of history. Originally by: Dionisius So my position regarding your acusation is this, the Caldari State exists and i personally think that it is best to maintain good relations with our neighbours. I did not accuse you of that. I just wanted to point your attention towards some other individuals we can hear these days. Very loudly. Originally by: Dionisius As to the final question who am i, i am Dionisius, capusuleer pilot former liaison member of the Garoun Bank and currently assigned as a liaison between The Circle Corporation and the Federal Intelligence Office. What I meant was asking you what is the Federation as such. If the Amarr were brutal towards the Minmatar, yet now we do not toss Aeon around their stations, then what can you say about the Federation? EDIT: Typing
Dionisius Gallente The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.05.19 02:33:00 - [45] Originally by: Kersh Marelor Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:21:10 Edited by: Kersh Marelor on 19/05/2008 01:20:30 Originally by: Dionisius As to the final question who am i, i am Dionisius, capusuleer pilot former liaison member of the Garoun Bank and currently assigned as a liaison between The Circle Corporation and the Federal Intelligence Office. What I meant was asking you what is the Federation as such. If the Amarr were brutal towards the Minmatar, yet now we do not toss Aeon around their stations, then what can you say about the Federation? Well how to describe the whole Federation... Democracy. We may not be perfect, we may not be always right, but, we stand for freedom, freedom of speach, freedom to the individual to pursue his own goals and acomplish them to their full potential. We are artisans, polititians, democrats, bureucrats, soldiers, people of the arts, homeless and rich. We are stubburn, we are receptive to new ideias and ideials, we are vengefull and forgiving, we are cold and passionate, we are the defenders of freedom, the jail guard of opression. We are perfect, we are unperfect. We are human. We are a colective of individuals, families, houses, organizations, we work towards progress and the comon good. The Federation is me and all its citizens, from the poor beggar in the streets to the president in the senate. Together we prosper, we suffer, we fight, we win, we loose, we acomplish, we fail, we start and finish. We MR. Marelor, the Federation is WE. _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief.
Kersh Marelor Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research	Posted - 2008.05.19 02:56:00 - [46] Originally by: Dionisius Together we prosper, we suffer, we fight, we win, we loose, we acomplish, we fail, we start and finish. We MR. Marelor, the Federation is WE. Poetic... touching even, though pretty much the same, give or take a few phrases, can be said by citizen of any of the nations in New Eden. May I ask whether thrusting the Wandering Saint into Ishukone station was manifestation of prosperity? Failure? Victory? For what freedom did Admiral Noir stand, should he be found guilty of this act which is most probable now? Because what he did acomplish, for the Federation and the New Eden, is certainly a lot of suffering and possibly a start of a huge war. How does plunging probably half of the Galaxy into war by one man, who was given sufficient tools for that by the Federation, support democracy?
Dionisius Gallente The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.05.19 05:58:00 - [47] Originally by: Kersh Marelor Originally by: Dionisius Together we prosper, we suffer, we fight, we win, we loose, we acomplish, we fail, we start and finish. We MR. Marelor, the Federation is WE. Poetic... touching even, though pretty much the same, give or take a few phrases, can be said by citizen of any of the nations in New Eden. May I ask whether thrusting the Wandering Saint into Ishukone station was manifestation of prosperity? Failure? Victory? For what freedom did Admiral Noir stand, should he be found guilty of this act which is most probable now? Because what he did acomplish, for the Federation and the New Eden, is certainly a lot of suffering and possibly a start of a huge war. How does plunging probably half of the Galaxy into war by one man, who was given sufficient tools for that by the Federation, support democracy? It was the manifestation of tragedy for the people that died both aboard the Wandering Saint and the station. The Federation still has to issue a comunication regarding this matter so we need to await and see what happened. _____________________________________ I am the destroyer of worlds and the also the cokie thief.
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:03:00 - [48] Signed Sahriah Bloodstone Pilot of The Crimson Federation
Disruptorr Caldari	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:05:00 - [49] /signed Although my allegiance is now with the Amarr, Caldari still has a place with me. Gallente are no better than Minmatar scum.
Stitcher Caldari Rin-Ruuka Kyun	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:23:00 - [50] We are now on the fourth day since impact. In that time, Search and Rescue has been conducted, and then called off. The Caldari State in general, and Hyasyoda in particular have rushed to Ishukone's aid. Capsuleer corporations from across New Eden provided support, supplies and aid within hours or even minutes of the impact. The logistical framework necessary to begin repairing the damage done has already put in place, high-ranking government agents across all four empires are contracting freelance capsuleers to help them assist in their nation's war preparation efforts, and hope that there are any survivors left on that station who have not been rescude is now dwindling almost to zero. And yet the Federation remains stubbornly tight-lipped. Why? there's been more than enough time for... well, pretty much anything. Where were the fleets of unarmed transports filled with desperately-needed supplies and manpower? Where was the official national apology? Where was the Federation-wide address from President Fioritain? Failing all those more well-meaning options, where was the formal statement of war, or the proud claim to have struck "a mighty blow for democracy", or some similar fedo-gas? There has been more than enough time for some Federation official somewhere to scribble down a speech, stand in front of a news camera and make an offical, international statement. It has not happened. Your own people are demanding answers as well, Federation. If you truly are a democracy, I suggest you give them what they want. - Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Jasper Mieville Scrutari	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:05:00 - [51] Signed
Kersh Marelor Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:13:00 - [52] Originally by: Dionisius It was the manifestation of tragedy for the people that died both aboard the Wandering Saint and the station. It is no time to fiddle with words. What did the act of crashing a Nyx into non-hostile station manifest to New Eden about principles of the Gallente Federation. Originally by: Dionisius The Federation still has to issue a comunication regarding this matter so we need to await and see what happened. As Mr Stitcher already pointed out the announcement is already a very delayed one, on the brink of never being made. For me the silence of your govrnment is very meaningful though and it does not bear any of the pompatic phrases you so eagerly listed tonight. But maybe I am wrong. Tell we, what about the Federation do we learn by its absolute state of stasis and inaction towards the tragedy in Malkalen?
Pliauga Gallente Militek Industries	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:19:00 - [53] /signed ---------- DRONE love rulez!! 'mkay?! LONG range/"OUT OF SYSTEM" artillery
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:55:00 - [54] The Gallente Federation has some serious questions to answer. It will look very suspicious if they refuse to do so. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:58:00 - [55] Yeah, Okay... I'll sign this one. It'll be funny to see what kinda excuses the incompetent leadership of the FN can try to come up with... \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.05.19 11:07:00 - [56] /signed Would be nice to understand what is going on from within the Fed govt (officially at least)! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!

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