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Stukkler Tian
Deaths Head Brigade
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:41:00 -
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I spent some time in rvb, so i guess i will throw in my two cents.
There are alot of rifter and cruiser blobs but.....This does not mean you cant solo. rvb is a great place to teach yourself how to spit up and pick at blobs.
You fly cheap ships but... its still pretty expensive, expect to loose 2-5 frigs a day along with a cruiser here and there.
Its a good place to learn but..like a few other have said they will not teach you (some of the directors/ceos occasionally help out new players.)
Its a very good place to find honest 1v1 but.. alot of people do use very flashy implants, (the out of corp booster thing was more of a boogeyman than an actual problem when i was there)
there are some really good guys in RvB but....there is a steady stream of dbags passing through who spend there three days in corp in a tornado farming killmails.
RvB is alot of fun but it is hardly a haven for new players, join get blown up alot blow up a few ships and if you dont like it then leave.
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Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
19
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Posted - 2012.03.11 03:10:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Broadly, yes.
To learn? No.
RvB is certainly an environment where you can learn PVP, but it will not teach you anything. You need to do that yourself.
This.
RvB, FW, lowsec, 0.0 etc. will all provide you with the opportunity to learn - but YOU make it happen by going out and finding the kind of fights that you are looking for.
You said you want to learn small gang and solo - so, which of these arenas is best for that? None of them. All of them.
It depends on you. You can spend your days as a lemming following the herd of 25/50/100/200 as they roam around ganking everything in sight or you can grab a few buddies and head out into the wide blue yonder to see what you can kill before you all die :)
Sadly too many people prefer to play like sheep rather than wolves - the choice is yours. |
Willl Adama
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.03.11 08:36:00 -
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I spent my first half year of 'real' eve pvp in RvB and I've never regretted that.
You wont find more easily accessible pvp anywhere in this game, and there's a bunch of chill dudes in there. It kinda grew old on me after some time though, but it's definately perfect as a first pvp experience.
Also, you should definately check out the 'my eve' section of this forum for pvp videos
Edit: oh btw, I actually made a couple of videos from my time in RvB (mostly solo stuff), check this out if interested:
Check out GARMONATION 9 right now!
Check out our site for PVP videos, guides and audio commentaries: www.EVEisEASY.com |
Enduring Pugilist
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 21:13:00 -
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Current RvB member adding my bit.
It's definitely worth it, although I'll agree with what others have said that it can be a somewhat artificial PvP environment. That said, I also agree that it is entirely what you make of it. Frigate blobs, excessive up-shipping and people with tricked out clones/off-grid boosters do happen, but if you view it more as a challenge rather than sitting in station and complaining about it, you can take away a lot of good experience. Fleet work and gangs are great to get a taste of PvP experience and get used to the jitters, but you'll learn the most in my opinion if you do some solo flying and deliberately treat RvB more like a real PvP environment.
Don't be afraid to attack things bigger than you or engage around higher numbers
Even though most action is easy to find, practice your d-scan and hunting down targets
If you want to learn, don't fly expensive/overpowered ships. You're only cheating yourself, and there's a chance you'll end up as just another mediocre, risk-averse pilot with a crippling reliance on an Isk/up-ship advantage.
Go on solo roams in lowsec once you feel a little more confident so you don't lose your edge. If you're in a t1 frigate it'll be a challenge, but great fun too.
Figure out who the most dangerous pilots are on both sides. Take notes.
Always fight as if you're going to be podded.
To give you an idea of where I'm coming from - I have little patience for blobbing so I fly almost exclusively solo , generally in a rifter. I'm based in Blue's headquarters so I'm almost always outnumbered. If you lean towards fleet action, go for it - we have a number of great FCs who try to even fleets as best they can, and there are a lot of awesome, friendly people in RvB. If you lean solo, there are many of us out there too - just know it'll often be an uphill battle, and you'll blow up a lot.
Hope this added something, maybe we'll see you out there man. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
146
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Posted - 2012.03.14 22:01:00 -
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Also, as the head of recruiting for my PvP corp, I tend to look more favorably on applicants from RvB as opposed to someone from Eve-Uni. So if you have the choice between RvB and Eve-Uni for learning PvP, lean towards RvB.
Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 |
Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.03.15 15:38:00 -
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It really depends on what you're looking for. On the plus side there's frequent combat, and both sides tend to have a static fleet up for you to join. On the down side, there aren't too many opportunities for solo or small skirmish (2-6 players) warfare. For instance I frequently have fights that start off as a solo vs a small group only to have 20+ warp in on my location once the engagement starts. So if you're looking to hone your combat skills it's probably not the best place, but it is a good entry point to learn the basics.
Personally, I prefer the solo/skirmish warfare FW since it tends to offer a wider variety of encounters (solo - caps) and doesn't have the empty systems or politics found in 0.0.
ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
19
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:06:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:RvB is fun if you want on demand pew.
If, however, you
a) are turned off by contrived environments (can't be podded, it's hisec arranged fights)
b) dislike blob warfare (gotta love those rifter blobs they got going on)
c) aspire to be a solid combat pilot in truly dangerous situations
then you need to look at other options than RVB.
If you want to learn how to solo or do small gang in an uncontrolled environment, RvB is not the place to do it.
Otherwise, RVB is a solid institution for the market it serves.
d) really like electronic warfare
Though I might join myself in a bit. Some big breaks have left my combat instincts rusty. 
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 02:26:00 -
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One important thing to remember when doing PvP in a Rifter is that you are learning to fight in a less than 1 million ISK, all modules included, frigate. Oh sure, it's a very lethal 1 million ISK. Very, very lethal for the price.
But, a newbie player jet-can "mining" in a mining Frigate with a 500,000 ISK industrial "hauler" can easily make 1 million ISK AN HOUR mining. Mining veldspar.
So when somebody butchers you with a ship that costs 20 times as much as yours.... well yeah, they should win. They really should win even if they were complete morons. Though the Rifter is deadly enough that you can actually win if they are.
And it took them less than two hours to get the ISK for that ship, so they aren't flying some sort of "elite" ship either.
The Rifter is very, very deadly for it's price, but it is also very, very cheap. If you have learned how to make ISK at all, you should be able to lose 10 in a weekend and come out with a positive ISK balance.
Causally playing. |
Cyrus Sarn
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 06:38:00 -
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I've learned quite a bit.
There are always fleets up or blue guys flying around in frigates to fight.
I've never not found a fight in RvB. I lost ten rifters in an hour the other day.
I'm mastering the fine art of making cheap and effective ships. |
Khanh'rhh
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
892
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:26:00 -
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To expand on my previous answer, I recently rejoined RvB as something to do whilst my playtime is limited.
I recommend ignoring the greens completely and fly around as a soloist looking for fights (not necessarily 1v1 ..) - this will teach you how to pick fights if you ever want to roam solo outside of RvB.
Most people tend to be fleeted so backup arrives very quickly, so try to have an exit strategy in your fights, or all solo engagements will turn into a loss with 10 people on your mail. You can, of course, ask for a 1 v 1 .... but I feel this is artificial ;)
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
185
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:15:00 -
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Curious to know what the requirements are to FC?
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Matthias Duran
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.03.22 19:20:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Curious to know what the requirements are to FC?
Have a microphone, and be willing to do it. |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
16
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Posted - 2012.03.22 19:37:00 -
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Matthias Duran wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Curious to know what the requirements are to FC? Have a microphone, and be willing to do it.
This^ I ended up being FC alot. Also, my favorite part of RvB was that people were always willing to go out and do (stupid) stuff. I was never able to put one of these together anywhere else. |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
EVE Corporation 123566322353
175
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Posted - 2012.03.26 01:41:00 -
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RvB was just a lot of station games and 'blob' welping last time I tried it.
Not my cup of tea.
Like most things in life however, you should try it for yourself before forming an opinion.
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