Originally by: Venkul Mul

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 19/05/2008 08:17:55

Polls, polls ! Let's pay blackjack-a-ballot
I'm betting.... 38572 votes total !

Not-so-stealth edit : make that non-abstain votes.

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I make it 25278.

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There were 24,651 votes cast out of a pool of 222,422 eligible voters, amassing a turnout of 11.08%. Of the total votes cast, 869 voters (3.5%) chose to abstain.

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Originally by: DevBlog

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There were 24,651 votes cast out of a pool of 222,422 eligible voters, amassing a turnout of 11.08%. Of the total votes cast, 869 voters (3.5%) chose to abstain.

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Originally by: Admiral Nova

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Less than 0.028% of members votes were required to elect a CSM member, I'm not sure what the CSM is representative of, but it doesn't look like it represents the players. The elected members represent less than 5% of accounts total.

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Originally by: Admiral Nova

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Less than 0.028% of members votes were required to elect a CSM member, I'm not sure what the CSM is representative of, but it doesn't look like it represents the players. The elected members represent less than 5% of accounts total.

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Originally by: Fehn Gamin

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s to see what part of player base is represented and is contributing their opinions.

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Originally by: Kayscha

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Funny to consider: if I had registered 800 trial accounts some six weeks ago, going on to pay subscription for each one of them for 1 month for a toal of slightly beyond a thousand bucks, I could have elected myself including a free trip to iceland and accomodation. I doubt I could have gotten a cheaper deal to visit the island anywhere else ;)

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Originally by: Papa Ina

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Maybe we should force people to vote?

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Originally by: Pizi

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Originally by: Kayscha

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Funny to consider: if I had registered 800 trial accounts some six weeks ago, going on to pay subscription for each one of them for 1 month for a toal of slightly beyond a thousand bucks, I could have elected myself including a free trip to iceland and accomodation. I doubt I could have gotten a cheaper deal to visit the island anywhere else ;)

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lol 800x 10 = 8k

i think you can get way cheaper to icland

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Originally by: Daraasi

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We should have seen such a low voter turn out coming.

When i encouraged local to get out and vote i mostly got people going "vote in what?" and "how do i vote" even though its on the front page !

Maybe eve players arnt as bright as we like to think.

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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And to the person that essentially said representatives in any government is simply about making money and that polling the populace is better - you're an idiot.

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Originally by: Kelsin

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Originally by: Daraasi

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We should have seen such a low voter turn out coming.

When i encouraged local to get out and vote i mostly got people going "vote in what?" and "how do i vote" even though its on the front page !

Maybe eve players arnt as bright as we like to think.

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It would be interesting if players could vote in-game as well - the participation would surely be much higher.

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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I'd rather a small sect of educated voters putting people into office than a large sect of uneducated voters.

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Originally by: Poreuomai

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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I'd rather a small sect of educated voters putting people into office than a large sect of uneducated voters.

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Are you serious? That would be bad new for democracy in general.

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Originally by: LaVista Vista

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... it would become an elitist system ...

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Originally by: Avalira

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Edited by: Avalira on 20/05/2008 16:16:34
Just got an email from CCP, the results can be seen here:

http://www.eve-online.com/CSM/results.asp

Note: the above won't work for those with the Firefox linkification plugin.

Edit: If the above link does't work you can get it here:
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/results.jpg

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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Edited by: Lumen Atra on 22/05/2008 00:06:43
Edited by: Lumen Atra on 22/05/2008 00:06:22
Edited by: Lumen Atra on 22/05/2008 00:05:01
Most players of ANY game simply play the game. They don't visit the website beyond what is necessary (and there is no necessity to visit with automatic payments) and most players do not read the forums. Any game.

To think, however, that just because only 11% of people voted means that the majority of the eve population won't be represented is naive. Each representative is connected to a large player base (voters and nonvoters) and, through the grapevine effect, reach towards a general consensus. It is not perfect, but it is hardly bad representation. In any government, it is completely possible that the people elected are only going to work towards their own goals. This is a very pessimistic view, however, and I honestly would not encourage that - although as time goes on, faith in humanity is dropping.

And to the person that essentially said representatives in any government is simply about making money and that polling the populace is better - you're an idiot. Governments are never about what the individuals want. They are about groups of people and attempting to do what will benefit the group. It just so happens that people want those benefits to extend to each individual which usually is the case.

Because people are people, not everybody is going to even be heard. The way people get heard is by becoming a group with similar ideas! If you cannot understand this basic concept, you shouldn't be voting anyway. I'd rather a small sect of educated voters putting people into office than a large sect of uneducated voters. If you want uneducated voters to vote, you would do almost as well to just let a random number generator pick.

On CCPs part, they should have had something in game to place votes. Login screen with a voting panel with the list of candidates (randomized order for each person) that gives basic information and a radio button for voting.

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Originally by: Grey Shadow

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Big time grats to all you successful CSM candidates. I'm hoping you can all make this work in our favour.

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Originally by: Waterfowl Democracy

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Edited by: Waterfowl Democracy on 22/05/2008 10:55:49
Perhaps more Americans voted than Europeans because democracy is an American concept that was only later exported to the backwards Europeans. Europeans just don't have the grasp of democracy that Americans do. Their national elections are also run in an inferior way as any observer can see when comparing the American electoral system (with the Electoral Colleges and a bipartisan system) to the sub optimal multi party systems of the old world.

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