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5pinDizzy Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:35:00 - [1] Was just given this news link ingame. Seems legit, it's off the myeve website. Though I had trouble finding the news article in the proper news channels myself. Seems CCP are going to change the timecode system as an excuse to increase the prices. Now I don't know if you looked but. It's currently $38.85 from Shattered crystal to buy a 90 day timecard. They are apparently proposing a 60 day timecard for $34.99. In otherwords, you are paying about a 50% increase if you rely on game time cards like me, and will be paying the equivalent of 3 accounts to sustain 2 accounts. I don't you about you, but I feel my dependance on GTC is really getting taken advantage of here. My budget is tight and will feel the squeeze with this one, I can still afford to play, but if they had increased GTC prices by 100% instead of 50% I'd have to be quitting I think. What are your guys opinions?
Batwigg	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:37:00 - [2] I don't know if you've noticed, but the dollar isn't worth jack or **** these days, and this is mostly just compensating for that.
Allanon Wren Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:39:00 - [3] nice timing, up the price just as some other mmo's are coming on the market. Gives a nice boost for ISK sellers too, bet they're rubbing their hands together right now.
5pinDizzy Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:40:00 - [4] On the bright side, imagine how much it'll hurt the farmers with 20 odd accounts? :p
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:40:00 - [5] Originally by: 5pinDizzy I'd have to be quitting I think. oh jesus no ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
5pinDizzy Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:44:00 - [6] Don't troll my thread by trying to focus on a bit I said near the end and making it out as a wah wah post, it was hypothetical, you might be able to afford double the price if it happened, good for you smart ass. Just saying we're all feeling the purse strings tighten a bit these days.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:48:00 - [7] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Don't troll my thread by trying to focus on a bit I said near the end and making it out as a wah wah post, it was hypothetical, you might be able to afford double the price if it happened, good for you smart ass. Just saying we're all feeling the purse strings tighten a bit these days. ITS CALLED SCARCITY, A BASIC ECONOMIC REALITY, ITS NOTHING NEW ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Lord WarATron Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:50:00 - [8] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 22/05/2008 14:50:23 The doller droped value around 40-50% in the last few years I think, perhaps thats the reason why. Also unifying all timecards to be 60 days insted of 30/90/50/100 days is more of a smart business move tbh. -- Billion Isk Mission
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:51:00 - [9] I agree its a bit of a pain I may end up having to drop my third account but I been looking for anexcuse todo that for a while anyway :) Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
ineedagtctoday	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:55:00 - [10] How is it 50% more you nub? 2x 30-day = $29.95 New 60day = $34.99 Thats 20% or so?

Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:55:00 - [11] Reducing the number of types of GTCs to one makes sense. Things easier to manage, CCP gets to devote more effort to other things, all is well. AS it stands, most other MMOs that sell time codes only sell in one or two incremenets already, so that is fairly standard. I'm not thrilled by the price increase obviously but it was bound to happen eventually. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:57:00 - [12] 1) dollar cheaper than toilet paper 2) see above I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
schneirder GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.22 14:58:00 - [13] I for one am very unhappy about this. First, I like paying and playing MONTHLY, and I resent having that option taken away. Secondly, I simply don't feel the game is worth paying an increased price for. That might sound offensive, but the inability to handle fleet fights after all these years, and the continuing problems certainly don't inspire me to play more. In fact, once it changes I'll just find I'm unwilling to drop $35 in one month to play, and then I'll run out of time and stop.
Tataki Wisako Caldari Construction LTD FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:00:00 - [14] I'm really disappointed at the way CCP try to disguise a massive increase in price as a "change to common GTC lengths".
5pinDizzy Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:01:00 - [15] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 22/05/2008 15:06:01 Originally by: ineedagtctoday How is it 50% more you nub? 2x 30-day = $29.95 New 60day = $34.99 Thats 20% or so? Originally by: CCP Wrangler These will replace the 30- and 90-day cards that were previously available 90 days are the most cost effective (cheapest) GTC's that are (were) currently available for long term players like myself, so that is the benchmark to compare to, as that and the 30 day are going. If you bought 90 days, and are now stuck only with 60 days, you are paying about 50% more. Sorry I'm such a nub, but if I am, I don't know what it makes you exactly. (Is it really surprising from the recent csm vote it can be calculated only around 10% of the community read the forums? I don't think it's surprising, I'm used to the forums and It still surprises me how stubbornly obnoxious and conceited half the posters can be) Yeah, I see it's reasonable really, considering as people have mentioned, I totally agree the falling dollar value is to blame and CCP are recouping their losses from this. But if I were you, I may go do some panic buying of the existing GTC's while they are still around, this thread was meant more of a warning to people who arent in the know, more then anything.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:05:00 - [16] Normalise the price to Euros to see if the price is in fact rising. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Phrixus Zephyr Prospero Incorperated	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:07:00 - [17] I'd like to know why im going to be paying for more for less gaming?
Digital Anarchist	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Malcanis Normalise the price to Euros to see if the price is in fact rising. EURO prices will still contain VAT. ------------------------ This space for rent
kindrel Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:11:00 - [19] ccp just went and gone done ****** up my gaming expeariance
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Malcanis Normalise the price to Euros to see if the price is in fact rising. You don't need to, plenty of suppliers use the dollar. ShatteredCrystal's price on a 90d code is currently $38.85. The new 60d code is apparantly going to cost $34.99. We're paying $3.86 less for 30 days less of game time. Prices are being increased by $9.09 per 60 days. The previous price was $0.43167 per day, the new one is $0.583167 per day. That's a percentage increase of 35% if I'm doing my maths right. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.

Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:15:00 - [21] Edited by: Malcanis on 22/05/2008 15:15:38 Originally by: Digital Anarchist Originally by: Malcanis Normalise the price to Euros to see if the price is in fact rising. EURO prices will still contain VAT. That's a scalar constant, and shouldn't affect a relative comparison of prices over the last few years. EDT: And VAT isn't almost 50% anywhere in Europe! CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Lord XSiV Digital Research - Omega Protocol	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:19:00 - [22] I actually agree with the move by CCP. Hopefully it will help cull the leeches such as yourself from the game and provide more resources to those of us who actually pay for it.
Gnulpie Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:22:00 - [23] At the first moment I wasn't happy either (who wants to pay more for the same?), but then think! It is really a great offer from CCP to have these GTC and ETC available and support officially the ISK-ETC conversion. And a 20% increase in which time? It could be far worse. And after all, it is their business. And if the weak dollar is hurting them then they need to come up with something. An increase in GTC price isn't that bad. Could be far worse. No big fuss.
5pinDizzy Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:27:00 - [24] Sorry for any sense of humour failure or making this thread look any more whiney or damaging to CCP then necessary, I can see why they'd need to make the changes they are doing as people have mentioned. But yeah, oi yanks, can we have a new US president plz?
Zigg Omelo eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:28:00 - [25] Edited by: Zigg Omelo on 22/05/2008 15:29:16 lets not forget how the overall icelandic economy is not in lets say, its best shape.... so again the icelandic currency has been shorted by profit hunters...
Jack Gilligan Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:32:00 - [26] Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 22/05/2008 15:33:38 This is total bull****. You are getting essentially only 60 days of play time for not much less than you can currently get 90 for. That is almost a 30% increase in price. First an expansion with content that they are denying to many, if not most players, now a HUGE price increase for those who use GTC's. "Make things simpler" my butt. Why not at least be honest and say this is so you can make more money? A 60 day GTC should not cost more than twice the 30 day sub fee. My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:33:00 - [27] Can someone in tell me what the different credit card subscription rates are? The US ones and the EU ones, specifically. I can't check because it doesn't let you if you have over 30 days left on your account. I want to see if it's more expensive to buy gtcs now than to pay by credit/debit card. If that were the case, it would be profiteering, in my opinion. If it's about the same, then CCP are clearly just recovering US prices from the dollar being weak. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Jack Gilligan Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Nyphur Can someone in tell me what the different credit card subscription rates are? The US ones and the EU ones, specifically. I can't check because it doesn't let you if you have over 30 days left on your account. I want to see if it's more expensive to buy gtcs now than to pay by credit/debit card. If that were the case, it would be profiteering, in my opinion. If it's about the same, then CCP are clearly just recovering US prices from the dollar being weak. US monthly fee is $14.95/month, which is what you can buy a 30 day GTC for currently as well. My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Sally Bestonge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:41:00 - [29] Originally by: Jack Gilligan Originally by: Nyphur Can someone in tell me what the different credit card subscription rates are? The US ones and the EU ones, specifically. I can't check because it doesn't let you if you have over 30 days left on your account. I want to see if it's more expensive to buy gtcs now than to pay by credit/debit card. If that were the case, it would be profiteering, in my opinion. If it's about the same, then CCP are clearly just recovering US prices from the dollar being weak. US monthly fee is $14.95/month, which is what you can buy a 30 day GTC for currently as well. and the 3 months or 90 day rate is 38.85 3$ more then the 60 day timecard seems kind dumb.
Haakon Jarl direkte	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:42:00 - [30] Can someone expalin to me why CCP list prices in dollars and not Euro? who wants dollars? In it for the state

She Storm Founder's of the Dominion The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:44:00 - [31] I barely make enough isk per month to buy the 30 day GTC for 150 to 180 mill isk ... with this change if the isk prices go up very much I will be out of game. I live on Disability and isk purchase of GTC was the way I was able to play . This may remove me from eve permanently :(
Taua Roqa Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:44:00 - [32] It's nothing to do with CCP unfortunately, why blame them? Blame the dollar and business reality, even if it does suck. -------------------------------------------- [IMAGE REMOVED] Threads are stacking-nerfed; the more posts you add the less effective those posts are. My I/Q Ration!!!11
Majon Tremkor Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Letouk Mernel Sounds like they're not giving the multiple-month discount for GTC's anymore; you buy a 60 day, you pay as if you were on the month-by-month plan. Not exactly. 30 days is $14.95. 60 days is 2 x $14.95 or $29.90. New ETC/GTC price for 60 days is $34.99, a $5+ premium for the privilege of using etc/gtcs.
Jack Gilligan Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:50:00 - [34] Originally by: Majon Tremkor Originally by: Letouk Mernel Sounds like they're not giving the multiple-month discount for GTC's anymore; you buy a 60 day, you pay as if you were on the month-by-month plan. Not exactly. 30 days is $14.95. 60 days is 2 x $14.95 or $29.90. New ETC/GTC price for 60 days is $34.99, a $5+ premium for the privilege of using etc/gtcs. Which in the end will collapse GTC sales and cost EVE subscribers. With it being more than $5 more expensive to use a credit card rather than a GTC to play the game, why would anyone choose that? Of course there are those who CANT use a credit card, and for them the game just got a whole lot more expensive. Some of them undoubtedly will quit or reduce their number of accounts. I fully expect they are about to raise the subscription fees by CC as well. If they do, they will be the FIRST mmo publisher to charge more than $14.95/month. I don't think they can get away with that. My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Maleto	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:50:00 - [35] Its called PAY MORE get LESS. where as before you would get an incentive to buy longer time intervals, now we just got f*ed up.
bestsnail	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:50:00 - [36] Edited by: bestsnail on 22/05/2008 15:51:39 Who cares its just $5 thats like 1 gallon of gas. Just stop mowing the yard and dont buy that gas for the mower and you can play eve for a couple extra hours a month. Its a win-win situtation
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:53:00 - [37] Originally by: Haakon Jarl Can someone expalin to me why CCP list prices in dollars and not Euro? Cause the products of the American education system have problems with long division.
Rorin Cutter KNIGHTS OF RYCHE	Posted - 2008.05.22 16:16:00 - [38] why is everyone talking about the dollar? most people who play are from other parts of the world. in euro to play now costs for 1 char. 34.99 euro at one time. for two char's 69.98Ç. in US dollars thats the same as paying 109 US. Thats to much for many people on fixed incomes. Or even the normal people who need to pay other things. EVE was always expensive to play for people outside the US, now it's just moving out of reach.
Cogswin Iannyen Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.05.22 16:41:00 - [39] While I don't particularly agree with the logic of doing away with the 30/90 gtc's, the price increase isn't that bad, really. I mean (and yes, in american dollars), we're looking at a price increase of what, $0.10/day? Ten frickin cents per day? Three dollars per month, ish? I can't count how many people I've heard say "AFK, pizza's here". Spare me. One less large pepporonni and you've paid for 6 months of price increase. And your relatively inactive lardasses will thank you.
Sir Bloodclaw	Posted - 2008.05.22 16:41:00 - [40] Originally by: Jack Gilligan US monthly fee is $14.95/month, which is what you can buy a 30 day GTC for currently as well. Isn't that the price for Europe for a month as well, in Euros? There - we have been paying almost double what any American has been paying the last months due to the weak dollar. As usual. Pwned?

bestsnail	Posted - 2008.05.22 16:51:00 - [41] Originally by: Cogswin Iannyen I can't count how many people I've heard say "AFK, pizza's here". Spare me. One less large pepporonni and you've paid for 6 months of price increase. And your relatively inactive lardasses will thank you. Haha I know exactly what you mean!
Sabrina Treadehugger	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:15:00 - [42] uber fail ccp And the lack of vision and ignorance of these ccp fanboys is amazing.
Naviset	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:22:00 - [43] The dollar might not be worth **** but I'm not getting paid any more of them and with gas going up and stuff... Why should CCP get more of them? :-p
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:26:00 - [44] Originally by: Maleto Its called PAY MORE get LESS. where as before you would get an incentive to buy longer time intervals, now we just got f*ed up. I'm not paying more; just the people I've effectively been subsidising are now paying more. Boo hoo. -------------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Flodarian	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:26:00 - [45] Edited by: Flodarian on 22/05/2008 17:26:04 Yes, I can see you all hate AMERIKKA but you have to realize that about 40% of the players are from their. Thus 40% don't care that the dollar is down right now they just see them selves getting shafted and they know if and when the dollar comes back up time cards are not going to go back to what they were use to. This just ****es people off and has the chance to make tons of American's quit. That would rip a new hole in the price of characters. It would also tank the Timecard market because they would not be selling them for isk. This would mean that ccp would lose even more money because of this change as they lose subscribers and the 30% increase in timecards sure as hell won't help if they lose a ton of players.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:26:00 - [46] Locked Please continue discussion in this thread Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang Get your voice heard! Vote in the CSM election!

Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Haakon Jarl Can someone expalin to me why CCP list prices in dollars and not Euro? Because the player base that uses the USD or is in a country that has it's currency tied to the USD is larger then the player base that uses the Euro.


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