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Jarrells Brotherhood of endless torment White Core	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:14:00 - [1] Is it?
Bleeshtar	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:39:00 - [2] Solution to what? Talk about being vague.
Spectre3353 The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.22 15:42:00 - [3] I think he's referring to how lowsec has been wetting the bed recently. It s really getting out of hand. ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
Zedrik Cayne Session9	Posted - 2008.05.22 16:23:00 - [4] What is going to happen... 1) Players flood to the new lowsec (for Gall/Caldari) and proceed to blow each other up all in good fun according to the factional warfare rules. 2) Pirates notice this plethora of sweet new targets who will fight back. They don't join any faction because they're -10 already. They're just coming for the explosions. 3) The regular players who were enjoying their factional warfare get wtfbbqpwned into the stone age. 4) Everybody leaves but the pirates who setup shop in the new playground and start exploiting it for all its worth like they do with all other lowsec they control. (Wonder what the moon mining will be like in the new areas?) So no..its not going to 'fix' lowsec. But there will be more targets for the pinata smashers. \o/ -- Remember: Carebears aren't people. They are giant flying pi±atas.
Iradlac Lowlander Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:12:00 - [5] Well if the carebears take out their fancy new faction fitted CNR's to do some lowsec-faction wars.... we'll lets say I know what my new carreer path will be
Tai Paktu Mortis Incarnatus	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:46:00 - [6] Could be. Depends how it's implemented. If it's, say, like lvl 5s when they were first released everyone said "omg, pirates are just gonna permacamp these!" Then, when everyone realized lvl 5s weren't worth the time they took, the camps didn't happen. If FW is great and people flood those systems, you damn well better believe they'll be camped. The difference is that the people going to these "fight zones" are expecting a fight and will hopefully give us one. ______ http://eve-files.com/sig/TaiPaktu/sig3.PNG
Dizeezer Velar Atomic Heroes Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:52:00 - [7] Our corp will be giving factional warfare a try. When we do we will be blowing up anything we see, target, neutral whatever. I think alot of 0.0 entities that come will still be operating on nbsi. We run semi-regular lowsec pvp ops for fun anyway. [/url]
Svalentine2 DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.05.22 17:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Zedrik Cayne What is going to happen... 1) Players flood to the new lowsec (for Gall/Caldari) and proceed to blow each other up all in good fun according to the factional warfare rules. 2) Pirates notice this plethora of sweet new targets who will fight back. They don't join any faction because they're -10 already. They're just coming for the explosions. 3) The regular players who were enjoying their factional warfare get wtfbbqpwned into the stone age. 4) Everybody leaves but the pirates who setup shop in the new playground and start exploiting it for all its worth like they do with all other lowsec they control. (Wonder what the moon mining will be like in the new areas?) So no..its not going to 'fix' lowsec. But there will be more targets for the pinata smashers. \o/ This. Except for the mining part. Sval
Toria Nynys	Posted - 2008.05.22 18:20:00 - [9] There are two possibilities. 1. Factional warfare is 'worth it.' By this I mean the shinies awarded are on part with high sec mission running in value/hour spent per person participating. In this case you will probably see decent sized 'carebear' blobs, but not solo faction ships -- expect t2 fitted tech1 sniper/EW blobs 10-300 in size. Your average solo pirate is not going to be too happy with this. 2. Factional warfare is 'not worth it.' Which is to say, it's designed for killmail accumulating types rather than carebears. In which case, you're not going to get too many solo faction ships either. Smaller gangs, people more experienced in small gang warfare and working together -- the same kind of roaming gangs you see already. Ships continue to go boom, carebears stay in highsec, everyone wins. I believe 2 is the intended goal and also likely outcome.
Ballistic CEO The Ballistic Corporation	Posted - 2008.05.22 19:13:00 - [10] No it wont fix low sec, but high sec will be a lot more fun, and as usual the flashies can ******* rot as far as most of us are concerned. In effect FW in empire will be exactly the same as being a low sec pirate without the flashy elitist attitudes and capital hot drops.

Zirconium Blade Ass Pounding Space Monkeys	Posted - 2008.05.22 19:17:00 - [11] Yes. No! Maybe?
easei AnTi. Atrocitas	Posted - 2008.05.22 19:36:00 - [12] I'm sure we(pirates) will find some way to work factional warfare to our advantage. Even if we have to join a team and start team killing.
Feilamya Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.05.22 19:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Zedrik Cayne What is going to happen... 1) Players flood to the new lowsec (for Gall/Caldari) and proceed to blow each other up all in good fun according to the factional warfare rules. 2) Pirates notice this plethora of sweet new targets who will fight back. They don't join any faction because they're -10 already. They're just coming for the explosions. 3) The regular players who were enjoying their factional warfare get wtfbbqpwned into the stone age. 4) Everybody leaves but the pirates who setup shop in the new playground and start exploiting it for all its worth like they do with all other lowsec they control. (Wonder what the moon mining will be like in the new areas?) Everything, except 1, 2 and 3. Remember level 5 missions?
Faife Noctiscion Twilight Trade Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.22 20:25:00 - [14] I like low sec. It's like armed bunkers full of nationalistic militia guys armed to the death going "see anything to shoot?" "nope... let's try next door..."
Gus Morgan Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.22 21:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Ballistic CEO No it wont fix low sec, but high sec will be a lot more fun, and as usual the flashies can ******* rot as far as most of us are concerned. In effect FW in empire will be exactly the same as being a low sec pirate without the flashy elitist attitudes and capital hot drops. yeah, we are real bastards who want to pvp in a pvp game! arrgh! lets go play wow!
Omae Gaw'd VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2008.05.22 21:53:00 - [16] I wonder...Can you Lofty your own milice...hmm SO many new things to try. More seriously, I bet a lot of pirates will also actually try joining one of the faction force for a change, for the opportunity to kill without a criminal flag (without being in nan0.0), for w/e reason that makes it different than the day2day life of a low-sec outlaw. I know I'm gonna be one of them. Then eventually go back to killing everyone if this doesn't suit me.
Faife Noctiscion Twilight Trade Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.22 22:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Omae Gaw'd I wonder...Can you Lofty your own milice...hmm SO many new things to try. More seriously, I bet a lot of pirates will also actually try joining one of the faction force for a change, for the opportunity to kill without a criminal flag (without being in nan0.0), for w/e reason that makes it different than the day2day life of a low-sec outlaw. I know I'm gonna be one of them. Then eventually go back to killing everyone if this doesn't suit me. well, you're in a corp, you're in a gang. i dont see why not.
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.23 03:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Zirconium Blade Yes. No! Maybe? I agree with this statement -- Let Us Avoid Systems Via Autopilot
ollobrains2	Posted - 2008.05.23 10:11:00 - [19] given the small fw areas theres going to be a lot of players in a small space if priates start killing em they will all get kill rights. So if done right it will be a free for all. And fun for those concerned
AntonioBanderas The Bastards	Posted - 2008.05.23 10:35:00 - [20] Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 23/05/2008 10:35:29 omg i never considered this will we now have blobs in empire? (and by blobs i mean mother fncking LAG) if so, i am quitting this game for good. I can say ASS \o/ yay!!!

Dotard Kinda'Shujaa Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.05.23 11:07:00 - [21] If so, can I have your stuffs? Seriously, can I? --------------- Nerf You! Buff Me!
Naridos IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.23 11:25:00 - [22] MMMMM juicy FW targets in low sec Quote: You Know you play too much Eve when you get into a car crash and you run away as fast as you can so that you don't get podded.
Tal Nok DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.05.23 14:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Our corp will be giving factional warfare a try. When we do we will be blowing up anything we see, target, neutral whatever. I think alot of 0.0 entities that come will still be operating on nbsi. We run semi-regular lowsec pvp ops for fun anyway. Leaving your alliance? Or using alts? Alliance bound corporations are not able to take place in factional warefare. To the OP: If these missions take you to other parts of low sec, then it very well could be the blessing we've all hoped for. Otherwise, it will only solve how much Caldari low sec space sucks, and give the bears with baby teeth somthing else to do. I'll no doubt have an alt try it out for a few days just to see what its about. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice.
Feilamya Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:31:00 - [24] Originally by: AntonioBanderas Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 23/05/2008 10:35:29 omg i never considered this will we now have blobs in empire? (and by blobs i mean mother fncking LAG) if so, i am quitting this game for good. It's simple: The blobs you might get in empire must be removed from somewhere else. Blobs don't spawn like rats, they move around, u know? Now the question is: Where would these blobs come from? There are only two possibilities: 1. Out of 0.0 . well, fine, less blobs in 0.0 . Let's all move there then if we don't like blobs. 2. Out of the carebear hubs. If this happens, it means fat loots, but as I pointed out above, it won't happen. Carebears will always be carebears, and FW won't get them to leave their l4q18 agents. Whoever thinks he will get to kill and loot hundreds of faction fitted Carebear Navy Ravens when FW gets out is just hopelessly naive. (Of course this doesn't mean that I hope I am wrong) Then there is still this risk vs. reward thingy. When the initial FW hype is over, everyone will go back to doing whatever is the most profitable. Which means that the blobs will go back to 0.0 for ratting and mining and whatever they do, and FW in lowsec will become another niche occupation - like piracy. The only thing I fear is that if I am right and all this happens (which wouldn't be bad), CCP will boost FW by providing artificial rewards for FW PVP. This will not only corrupt EVE forever and degenerate it to a "classical" MMO, it will also be a smack in the face to all pirates, antipirates and whatever else lowsec PVPers call themselves.
Toria Nynys	Posted - 2008.05.23 20:16:00 - [25] Originally by: Feilamya The only thing I fear is that if I am right and all this happens (which wouldn't be bad), CCP will boost FW by providing artificial rewards for FW PVP. This will not only corrupt EVE forever and degenerate it to a "classical" MMO, it will also be a smack in the face to all pirates, antipirates and whatever else lowsec PVPers call themselves. How is this bad? I mean, right now you have a choice of playing for killmails or playing for ISK for the general populace. Yes, there are a few stellar exceptions (involving holding valuable 0.0 territory) able to do both, but it's not the case for the sweaty masses. If it were possible to pay both the loser and the winner of a PvP engagement enough to sustain the interest of both over time you could replace rats with players. Everyone wins.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.26 07:40:00 - [26] Low sec does not need fixing. For other than the stupid trit price that makes low sec mining not worth it, anyway. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Ming Zu lost misfits	Posted - 2008.05.26 10:21:00 - [27] Agree with the above ^^ Is lowsec broken? - The Answere is: NO! Its just a little bit overgrowded ;)
Rawr Cristina Naqam Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Iradlac Lowlander Well if the carebears take out their fancy new faction fitted CNR's to do some lowsec-faction wars.... we'll lets say I know what my new carreer path will be I'm thinking most people will take the sensible option and use expendable T1 ships with cheap fittings. We definately won't be seeing many CNRs about ... FW's success is really dependant on how profitable it is at the end of the day. ...
TimMc Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:36:00 - [29] Originally by: Ming Zu Agree with the above ^^ Is lowsec broken? - The Answere is: NO! Its just a little bit overgrowded ;) I thought too many pirates, not enough carebears. We end up killing eachother more than CNRs.
YouEatedMyCookie State War Academy	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:08:00 - [30] Originally by: TimMc I thought too many pirates, not enough carebears. We end up killing eachother more than CNRs. I definately agree. I have escaped more than one bad situation thanks to the "rescue" of other pirates, who just wanted the juicier killmail than my garbage pvp ships.



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