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Noisse
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:27:00 -
[421]
/signed
Give 30 and 90 days back
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Mildaria
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:41:00 -
[422]
Edited by: Mildaria on 24/05/2008 18:41:23 /signed
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Jin Mein
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:02:00 -
[423]
/signed
Equalize EVE subscription prisez..!! \o/
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Boknamar
The Knights Trevor
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:06:00 -
[424]
I don't use GTCs, but I want to see something get forced onto the CSM agenda, and this issue looks like it has some traction. Oh yeah, and I'll be sure my alt throws in his support as well.
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Lee Scoresby
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:07:00 -
[425]
I agree with whatever Boknamar says!
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Stalker Space
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:14:00 -
[426]
Edited by: Stalker Space on 24/05/2008 19:16:36 bad idea ccp!
I want the 30 and 90 gtc back!
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Admiral Thunder
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:20:00 -
[427]
/signed
Give 30 and 90 days back
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SencneS
Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:31:00 -
[428]
The way I play MMO's is very simple, I limit myself to 1 MMO at a time. More importantly I limit myself to $120 a year in MMO monthly fees ($10 a month)
At the moment I play 3 months on EVE, 1 Month away, giving me 9 months of game time a year. The 1 month break is very nice and when I return I enjoy the game a lot more.
With the new 60 day gtc and the price hike, I will basically be playing 2 months on 2 months off. To stay around the $120 a year mark.
The unfortunate thing about this is simply, due to the 50/50 game play I may ultimately end up not playing EVE at all. The amount of time I would be away from the game may lead to my desire to not play it at all.
Sorry CCP you're not getting any more then $120 per year out of me, the only difference is, the new changes may lead to you getting $0 a year out of me.
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Nlex
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:46:00 -
[429]
Leaving 90-day GTC in availability would be very nice. Mostly because they divide a year in 4 periods so well. I would not even mind to pay for them more (a little), if I could still pay less times a year.
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Wmaster
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:02:00 -
[430]
Edited by: Wmaster on 24/05/2008 20:02:46 /signed Give 30 and 90 days back!!!
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steave435
laloutre Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:15:00 -
[431]
Signed
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Lu'Marat
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:28:00 -
[432]
Edited by: Lu''Marat on 24/05/2008 20:31:41 I'm really disappointed by CCP.
Not because of the price raise - EVE is a great game, and with the past and coming expansions it is well worth its money, even at the new rates.
What I don't like is how CCP is trying to sell this. This isn't about industry standards - industry standard means flexible options, not a single option. This also isn't about simplifying things - there is nothing to fix here; I've never heard anyone complain about the choices we have.
This is simply a price raise, and CCP is trying to feed us rubbish PR waffle. Do they really think we're that stupid?
Shame on you, CCP. Have at them, CSM.
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Space Hog
NEW DAWN CO INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:31:00 -
[433]
/signed
Local Fix-AN EVE SIGN OFF |
mrMosfet
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:46:00 -
[434]
Edited by: mrMosfet on 24/05/2008 20:46:21 /signed or 60 days should cost $26
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ninjaholic
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:50:00 -
[435]
Instead of signing like mad on a petition to keep things the way they have been for a few months, why don't you consider that CCP probably had to make a difficult decision in removing the 30 & 90 day timecodes, and minimally increase the price some while creating a generic 60-day timecode is probably their solution to this difficult decision.
I don't think it's fair to sign a petition to go against this decision, when clearly every addition and modification to the game over the last 5 years has been done to make the game better, faster, and different from other MMORPG's. They even listen to forum post we make, but clearly they feel that explaining their reasons for this decision would be counter-productive to it, which has happened many times before.
Creating a thread like this and supporting it only shows distrust for CCP and contempt for their decisions.
Clearly they feel that this is the best way to proceed. And to be honest, they have my support too.
You moaners should be supporting CCP.
They have my support, as I've yet to see a bad decision.
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Rockvell
Russian Specnaz Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 21:17:00 -
[436]
Edited by: Rockvell on 24/05/2008 21:17:01 /signed
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Rosur
Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.05.24 21:25:00 -
[437]
Edited by: Rosur on 24/05/2008 21:25:09 Also i would like to add if ccp is getting rid of 30days then why advertise them on the front page http://www.eve-online.com/news/newsOfEve.asp?newsID=559
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.24 21:30:00 -
[438]
If they must get rid of 30 day timecode at least keep 90 day ones at a discounted price of 43.50$
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Shov'al
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Posted - 2008.05.24 21:33:00 -
[439]
Signed. |
Jin'May
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:09:00 -
[440]
On paper it may look like you'll earn more money that way CCP. Your stats sheets and numbers probably tell you so. But there's something your data can't predict : how this change will affect the behaviour of your costumers. And that's something I can give you insight about: I am paying for 4 accounts right now. I pay 1 with credit card and 3 with ISK. If the 30d GTC are removed I'll stop paying for 2 of those accounts.
Make your math now. Tell me whether 60d are such a good day after all?
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Dealth Striker
Striker Ltd
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dealth Striker on 24/05/2008 22:22:48 From CCP's point of view this change makes sense: - cash flow income can be budgeted more accurately with only one GTC period (60 days) - keeping track of multiple GTC periods probably involved resources that can be either eliminated or used elsewhere - include a price increase - try to get more revenue by eliminating the 30 day GTC so that people buy the more expensive 60 day one. Eliminate the 50 since you are eliminating the 90 and 100 (these latter 2 brought in less revenue than what the potential is for the 60 day one) - test the waters to see how the general public reacts to this change before looking at introducing a monthly subscription price increase - it is easier to test with this in case they have to roll it back (smaller market when compared to monthly subscription client base) as well as having a fixed point for calculating loss of revenue due to clients leaving vs revenue gained from future purchases - increase demand (therefore revenue) on old stock of 30, 50, 90, + 100 GTCs as clients will be grabbing them up to beat having to pay for the 60 day GTCs
So this effects me by the fact that I have 2 accts that are paid via GTCs paid by ISK. I have left enough isk in each acct to buy a 60 day GTC each if I want after the current GTCs expire. So my 2 accts mean practically nothing to CCP (other than I am buying someone's GTCs that they paid cash for). I can honestly say that whatever I do does not matter - lol ---------------------
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xena zena
Catalyst Corporation Dominatus Phasmatis
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Posted - 2008.05.24 23:19:00 -
[442]
Originally by: ninjaholic [snip].. I've yet to see a bad decision.
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Alphrenel
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.05.24 23:48:00 -
[443]
Nice, supported! ___________________________________ Best regards, ALPR CEO Alphrenel
Alphrenel Productions - making nice videos for everyone! |
Market owner
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Posted - 2008.05.25 00:03:00 -
[444]
If this goes through, out of all my accounts I may keep 1, but most likely if CCP gets rid of the 30 and 90 day cards I shall stop playing entirely.
/signed
at least give us a reason, I mean a real one.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Naqam Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.05.25 00:26:00 -
[445]
Originally by: ninjaholic Creating a thread like this and supporting it only shows distrust for CCP and contempt for their decisions.
Drop the plural on decisions (because I'm sure few of us here think CCP always get it wrong) and that is exactly what we are trying to show.
Though not specific to this case if we want this game that we enjoy so much to survive we need make sure CCP know when they do something that negatively affects a large portion of their subscribers. If we don't subscription numbers will simply drop while CCP are left scratching their heads wondering where it all went wrong until they have to release the hamsters.
It's called feedback, and in a case where many of their customers are about to be forced to pay more than others I'd say it's important. ----------------------------
"I'm sorry Sir your European I'll have to charge you 58% extra"
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Sanakis
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Posted - 2008.05.25 01:09:00 -
[446]
/signed
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Soleil Fournier
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.25 01:15:00 -
[447]
support bringing back more options to players!!!
If you raise prices, that's ok imho, but leave the options!
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Zerdo
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Posted - 2008.05.25 02:18:00 -
[448]
signed
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Allods
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Posted - 2008.05.25 02:19:00 -
[449]
Edited by: Allods on 25/05/2008 02:25:57 /signed Check here if want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on
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Gaerwyn
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Posted - 2008.05.25 02:26:00 -
[450]
Agreed with all points in the OP.
All of this is a very thinly disguised way of saying we want more money imho. |
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