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Lo3d3R
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 22/05/2008 23:39:08 Napoleon did not have one arm, he always had one arm on his belly because he suffered from a chronical pain in the stomach, bowels, intestines area. His diet contained allot of chicken if I recall correctly, so be carefull with them nuggets.
Originally by: Phthonos Nemesis If the Minnies had gotten "Bloody Fist of Matar", the the Gallente surely should have had "Perfumed Gauntlet of the Federation".
"Imperial Golden Hoodie"? "Polished Jackboot of the State"?
Fun times.
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Hass Fresson
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:40:00 -
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Grid,
first, thanks for the reasoned reply. second, at this point, agreed, all we have is guesswork. I would say however, that based on past additions of similar kind to the LP store such as the different implants, and (admittedly only to date) the only controlling factor for usage being skills and training time, which in itself has been a more than adequate method of restricting access.
my guess is that we are far more likely to see access and ISK (cost) restrictions rather than use restrictions.
Hass
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Dr Slaughter
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kudon Astraisx Those were the titles they discussed and rejected, not the ones they chose.
oh.
See.. I should never post after about 11pm.
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Kira Agarn
Malkalen Callers
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:15:00 -
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We need a thread where the community can voice thier opinion and ideas about ranks. Its a good Idea for two reasons: 1) You get to laugh your ass off at some community ideas, and 2) you get 200k people throwing in ideas, and you are bound to get a good one.
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Agarn ...you get 200k people throwing in ideas, and you are bound to get a good one.
Haven't been on the forums long I see! ;-)
-Grid
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Aenis Veros
Alphaflight
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ginger
Originally by: Kudon Astraisx Ah, maybe I'm missing it, but this appears to just say "we're going to have ranks, here are some cool ones you didn't get."
When do we get the lists? :)
Actually seeing as it is out on Sisi, let me see what I can swing.
Still waiting :P
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Brutal Psycho
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:45:00 -
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Can I be "Slayer of Heretics" ?
:) Looking forward to this Ginger. You guys and Gals are always thinking.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.05.23 01:41:00 -
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Ginger, lay off the LSD dude.
Is it just me or did you tell us absolutely nothing in that blog other then show the images? --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.23 02:36:00 -
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That was a fun behind the scenes look at how you got to ranks and what you might do with them in the future.
However as to reduce whinage... here is my simple idea that is so simple and yet brilliant!... that if at least one dev doesn't let the idea something must be wrong with me
Because as much as I personally like the idea of unlocking better equipment and such players won't like it because it's more "standard"
ok right this is turning into a rant :P
Mothermoons awesome idea for ranks!
-discounted items in the LP store with bigger discounts the higher your rank
-greater mission rewards
There is more but this is simple and a possible to change for before it goes live on TQ?
you could also have gates that require rank, maybe custom paint jobs?
I don't think players will mind discounts in the LP store and fluff like paint jobs or such. just a thought :P
maybe also less tax on gates?
other stuff
another long rant, sorry :P
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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.23 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton but i want to be a bloody fist of matar
Even though theirs a blatantly obvious *** sex joke on it?
Trust Aura. Aura is Your Friend.
If your too paranoid to play EVE. . .
Then your not Paranoid enough to play EVE.
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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.23 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Oakrayven
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton but i want to be a bloody fist of matar
Even though theirs a blatantly obvious *** sex joke on it?
and on yet another forum im reduced to ***.
which frankly is a slur against **** but thats just me
Trust Aura. Aura is Your Friend.
If your too paranoid to play EVE. . .
Then your not Paranoid enough to play EVE.
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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.23 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shionoya Risa
Quote: In future expansions of Factional Warfare we are going to look at linking additional functionality and rewards into ranks like (and these are not promises, just current ideas) tying them into dungeons in space and adding additional equipment and ships to the loyalty store that will only be available at certain ranks.
Welcome to EVE: WoW Edition.
This is such a crap idea it's unbelievable to be very honest with you, but with the other ideas coming out of CCP today, it's hardly surprising.
well its not exactly EVE WoW ed, its still an open almost anything goes sandbox
But adding any functionality that gives a Faction PvPer any advantage over a non faction player, in any way no mater how seemingly trivial, is going to be bad for 0.0 Aliances, because suddenly the now disadvantaged aliance players get to decide if they play gimped compared to the players who put in the faction grind to get the beni.
Trust Aura. Aura is Your Friend.
If your too paranoid to play EVE. . .
Then your not Paranoid enough to play EVE.
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Snake Eyes Inc Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.05.23 04:20:00 -
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Thank you, Ginger. One of the most entertaining dev blogs to date. :)
I promise nothingÖ. --CCP Prism X |
Sin atuo
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Posted - 2008.05.23 06:32:00 -
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FW good, ranks - so so.. but items for ranks... not fun.
It would be better to have race or militia emblem on you ship when you achieve requared rank. low rank - one emblem, mid rank - two emblems, high rank - three emblems. It should'n be dificul to add such thing in ships painting schemes.
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Ishina Fel
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.05.23 06:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ishina Fel on 23/05/2008 06:47:40 I agree with the overall sentiment that there shouldn't be too much based off the ranks. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should!
I'd much rather see discounts on the LP store instead of rank-limited items, as was previously suggested. With that system, you already have a sort of rank limit: people without the necessary rank have to pay more LP, which means they get less other stuff, and have to work longer for the same stuff.
Rank-limited dungeons are just... no. EVE is a universe where everyone can go everywhere - as long as they accept that they might get shot for trying. Limiting gates to certain ships is already intruding on that freedom, but I can see how it can be necessary to avoid exploitation in complexes and missions, and it has a semi-acceptable ingame explanation. A rank limit, on the other hand, would serve no purpose other than force people to grind standings, which is bad, bad, bad!
I'm sure there can be several rewards for holding a high rank that don't lock away content from other players. Please avoid the pitfalls of Blizzard's honor system (one of the most fundamentally flawed design ideas in their otherwise quite successful game).
After all, factional warfare is supposed to be a stepping stone to 0.0 space, a sub-mechanic of the game teaching people how to PvP and enjoy it. The worst thing you can do is offer people something they cannot get anywhere else: that way, your stepping stone becomes an endgame in itself, and will draw people AWAY from 0.0 instead of encouraging them to take it out there.
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Dapanman1
Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 22/05/2008 23:13:44
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton but i want to be a bloody fist of matar
There's only one way to get this - join Ushra'Khan.
Or y'know, call up Karn's mother. Sig removed for inappropriate content.~~~Applebabe |
Bel Sundara
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:46:00 -
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Nice blog Sounds good to me
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Matthew
BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Oakrayven But adding any functionality that gives a Faction PvPer any advantage over a non faction player, in any way no mater how seemingly trivial, is going to be bad for 0.0 Aliances, because suddenly the now disadvantaged aliance players get to decide if they play gimped compared to the players who put in the faction grind to get the beni.
Are the 0.0 Alliances gimped because they're out in 0.0 defending their space rather than grinding agents to get CNR's? No, they're not. They use the superior earning power of 0.0 to just buy up whatever faction stuff they need. Which in turn generates a market for the people that earn these things to sell them to.
I agree that something silly like "+1% damage per militia rank" would be undesirable, but I really don't think that's what they're saying.
Originally by: Ishina Fel Rank-limited dungeons are just... no. EVE is a universe where everyone can go everywhere - as long as they accept that they might get shot for trying.
Indeed, I would be skeptical about locking out the dungeon completely. But having advantageous things in the dungeon that higher rank players can unlock could work - these would be things that tipped the balance of the dungeon slightly in favour of that player's faction. This could be anything from an extra friendly sentry gun to being able to lock the ownership of the dungeon in it's current state for 2 minutes (though that one would need a global cooldown timer so a gang of high-rank players couldn't keep it permanently locked). This would give the high-ranked players an advantage specific to FW, without giving them an advantage in the wider galaxy, or be something that the 0.0 crowd would covet (as it would be useless to them).
This would also encourage the more realistic effect of the militias organising around their more senior members, as there would be an FW advantages in doing so. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines. |
Bit Steen
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:25:00 -
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i have a question: to join the faction war - i have to leave my corp?
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Khan Soriano
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:37:00 -
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Ranks are cool and I really like the idea of ships being available to people of certain ranks (commited to their Militia) but could you also put some light on Black Ops issues?
Devblog wouldn't hurt, community provided multiple ideas on how to make them useful and we'd all like to know what you guys (CCP) think.
----- Arbitrator - Life & Death
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Akiba Penrose lol,, "Bloody fist of Matar".
Does this mean that the regular faction standings dont get affected by FW?
Every rank gained in Factional warfare will get you a faction standing boost.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gridwalker But I do agree that it does sound like EVE is getting "levels" and level-locked items. Slippery path. I would have expected ranks to be "achievement based" and not grinding-standings based.
/signed
-- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:28:00 -
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LP Store & ranks:
Its JUST ideas being thrown around at the moment so no one panic, were not going to chuck anything in without giving it a good chew first. Post here your ideas concerning this, it will give us a nice place to go and read when we come across these.
Ranks Images and full ranks list:
Im getting on this now. Will add it to dev blog shortly.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:29:00 -
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And were not going to add anything like Rank 5 gives you % to something or other. We have skill books for that kind of thing and EVE is just not that kind of game.
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Karanth
Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ginger
Originally by: Akiba Penrose lol,, "Bloody fist of Matar".
Does this mean that the regular faction standings dont get affected by FW?
Every rank gained in Factional warfare will get you a faction standing boost.
I hope this means that losing rank reduces faction standings too? Also, will other standings derive from those faction standings as normal? I wouldn't normally ask, but seeing as how social skills won't seem to work with the militia corps, other standard assumptions might not hold here either.
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Recluse Viramor
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:55:00 -
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So let me get this straight...
CCP is adding all this fancy FW stuff but is excluding the most loyal and active part of its player base in alliances and 0.0...
This rank system only sounds like it will further increase the divide.
Almost seems as if CCP is intentionally trying to destroy EVE as we've known it for the past 4 years, and I'm not sure for the better.
The system seems like it needs to incorporate all the player base from day 1; hanging alliances and their pilots out to dry should not be an option.
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Simon Melfex
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ginger And were not going to add anything like Rank 5 gives you % to something or other. We have skill books for that kind of thing and EVE is just not that kind of game.
I really hope so. I did not quit WoW for EvE just to find out that this horrible reputation and "honor" grind fest stuff followed me ;-)
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manasi
Ceptacemia Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: manasi on 23/05/2008 12:24:11
Originally by: Recluse Viramor So let me get this straight...
CCP is adding all this fancy FW stuff but is excluding the most loyal and active part of its player base in alliances and 0.0...
This rank system only sounds like it will further increase the divide.
Almost seems as if CCP is intentionally trying to destroy EVE as we've known it for the past 4 years, and I'm not sure for the better.
The system seems like it needs to incorporate all the player base from day 1; hanging alliances and their pilots out to dry should not be an option.
While I'm not THAT cynical I still agree with the man. He has some EXCELLENT points. I have been waiting and reading all the info coming out and as of yet still do not see anything, to refute what his main point is, that being, the exclusion of the people that really wanted these things (the current PvP base of players). I am trying my best to not judge things to harshly, until I get all the info.
I am having trouble with the fact that this singular point might render this "expansion" rather moot to most people. As I have said before, what is in it for me, and the rest of the pilots who PvP in alliances and whatnot?
As a relatively new PvPer in Alliance warfare should I even care about this expansion?
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Invictor
Blue Ice Trading Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.23 13:04:00 -
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Funniest Dev blog in ages :)
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.05.23 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 23/05/2008 14:15:53 The icons for the most part look awesome, esr,pecially minmata but the Caldari top rank insignia looks like it was taken straight off a USAAF airplane :(
Circle, star, two wings, check. http://www.aviationexplorer.com/USAF_60_YEARS.jpg
Any chance of something a little more iconic and 'eve like'?
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