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Riethe Invictus Sovereignty	Posted - 2008.05.24 04:14:00 - [1] When you guys are arguing with your girlfriends/wives, do you ever feel like you just made the most badass point ever, and then she just says something completely stupid ******** ridiculous and your point is wasted? And you're just like, "HUH WHAT?" I've been with my current for awhile, and blocked out a lot of my past relationships so I don't really have a base of reference anymore. Is it just me, or are women really just quite bad at arguing? I feel like I'll be talking about something, or say something pretty good to back myself up, and then her response won't even be relevant. The thing is I can argue with a male friend and we can bullshot back and forth and no problem, it all makes sense, points are considered... it doesn't feel like bizzaro world. Seriously. Come on. Anyone else?
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.05.24 05:16:00 - [2] Methinks you're violating rule #1 of relationships. Don't try to understand your woman. You'll fail. Always. --- Kaboom: The process by which large objects are broken down into many small objects. Originally by: Alz Shado Chribba doesn't mine Veldspar -- the ore offers itself to him in tribute.
Micheal Dietrich Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:05:00 - [3] Dude, don't even bother trying. You can outskill in arguments all you want and it'll do you jack. Either you'll get illogical answers or even if your proven right it just makes them madder. Arguments with girlfriends is a lose lose no matter what you do.
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:32:00 - [4] In the immortal words of Al Bundy: "Women - can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em." -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Ch Tang	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:34:00 - [5] Some women live in a world that is their own reality and if anything doesn't fit into it, that anything doesn't exist.
ReaperOfSly Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.24 08:37:00 - [6] My last girlfriend was a fellow mathematician, so this tended not to happen given our mindsets. It was actually worse in some ways, because she'd often beat me fair and square in an argument.
Mark Lucius Kinetic Vector Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.24 08:47:00 - [7] Dude, in a relationship the woman is always right, even if she's wrong. There is no point argueing no matter how strong your argument is. Relax, play Eve and have another beer. ---
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.24 09:05:00 - [8] This must be your first GF... the rule is: It IS your fault () () (â;..;)â (")(")
Valan The Fated Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.05.24 09:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Riethe When you guys are arguing with your girlfriends/wives, do you ever feel like you just made the most badass point ever, and then she just says something completely stupid ******** ridiculous and your point is wasted? And you're just like, "HUH WHAT?" I've been with my current for awhile, and blocked out a lot of my past relationships so I don't really have a base of reference anymore. Is it just me, or are women really just quite bad at arguing? I feel like I'll be talking about something, or say something pretty good to back myself up, and then her response won't even be relevant. The thing is I can argue with a male friend and we can bullshot back and forth and no problem, it all makes sense, points are considered... it doesn't feel like bizzaro world. Seriously. Come on. Anyone else? They never argue about whats bothering them so you can't win. Thats women 101. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:30:00 - [10] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 24/05/2008 15:30:26 THE Rules 1. The female always makes the rules 2. The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification. 3. No male can possibly know all the rules. 4. If the female suspects the MALE know all the rules, she must immediately change some or all of the rules. 5. The female is never wrong. 6. If the female is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a result of something the male did or said wrong. 7. The male must apologize immediately for causing said misunderstanding. 8. The female may change her mind at any time. 9. The male must never change his mind without the express written consent of the female. 10. The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time. 11. The male must remain calm at all times unless the female wants him to be angry or upset. 12. The female must, under no circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry and/or upset. 13. The male is expected to mind read at all times. 14. Any attempt to document the rules could result in bodily harm. 15. If the female has PMS, all the rules are null and void. 16. The female is ready when she is ready. 17. The male must be ready at all times. 18. The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp. Nuff said (note #6 in particular). -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
The TX Earth Inc. Zeta Tau Epsilon	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Wrayeth In the immortal words of Al Bundy: "Women - can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em." ROFL, I always used to watch Married With Children :-) -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Blane Xero The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:51:00 - [12] In the words of chriss rock "Women aint gonna let a little thing like common sense **** up their arguement!"
Krxon Blade	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:38:00 - [13] Edited by: Krxon Blade on 24/05/2008 18:38:15 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h 18. The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp. I would add 19th rule: 19. The male who manage to obey all the rules is also a wimp. So, in both cases we're screwed. All we got from relationships is "ISK" sink, occasional dip and potentially screaming monster every 9th month. -- EVE ambulation (Full Body Avatar) character creator 2.0 EVE offline game
Shirley Serious Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:41:00 - [14] You're all wrong
ReaperOfSly Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 24/05/2008 15:30:26 THE Rules 1. The female always makes the rules 2. The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification. 3. No male can possibly know all the rules. 4. If the female suspects the MALE know all the rules, she must immediately change some or all of the rules. 5. The female is never wrong. 6. If the female is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a result of something the male did or said wrong. 7. The male must apologize immediately for causing said misunderstanding. 8. The female may change her mind at any time. 9. The male must never change his mind without the express written consent of the female. 10. The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time. 11. The male must remain calm at all times unless the female wants him to be angry or upset. 12. The female must, under no circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry and/or upset. 13. The male is expected to mind read at all times. 14. Any attempt to document the rules could result in bodily harm. 15. If the female has PMS, all the rules are null and void. 16. The female is ready when she is ready. 17. The male must be ready at all times. 18. The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp. Nuff said (note #6 in particular). Wrong. There aren't any rules. That would imply some sort of logical thinking
Kravick Drasari	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 24/05/2008 15:30:26 THE Rules 1. The female always makes the rules 2. The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification. 3. No male can possibly know all the rules. 4. If the female suspects the MALE know all the rules, she must immediately change some or all of the rules. 5. The female is never wrong. 6. If the female is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a result of something the male did or said wrong. 7. The male must apologize immediately for causing said misunderstanding. 8. The female may change her mind at any time. 9. The male must never change his mind without the express written consent of the female. 10. The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time. 11. The male must remain calm at all times unless the female wants him to be angry or upset. 12. The female must, under no circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry and/or upset. 13. The male is expected to mind read at all times. 14. Any attempt to document the rules could result in bodily harm. 15. If the female has PMS, all the rules are null and void. 16. The female is ready when she is ready. 17. The male must be ready at all times. 18. The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp. Nuff said (note #6 in particular). This is why I dumped my last girl friend. She literally handed me a print out of some rules she found on the internet, which where very similar to these rules, and actually expected me to follow them. No, I'm not joking and she was serious. I dropped her like a rock on the spot. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. Be a Ninja! You know you want too: http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?Kravick
DubanFP Four Rings Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.05.24 20:33:00 - [17] Edited by: DubanFP on 24/05/2008 20:36:23 Originally by: Krxon Blade Edited by: Krxon Blade on 24/05/2008 18:38:15 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h 18. The male who doesn't abide by the rules can't take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp. I would add 19th rule: 19. The male who manage to obey all the rules is also a wimp. So, in both cases we're screwed. All we got from relationships is "ISK" sink, occasional dip and potentially screaming monster every 9th month. and 20 should be 20. Should multiple males fail to see the logic of said female the logic may in no way be deemed wrong. All the involved males shall. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
Kristiana Lee Flying Fox Industries	Posted - 2008.05.24 22:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Riethe When you guys are arguing with your girlfriends/wives, do you ever feel like you just made the most badass point ever, and then she just says something completely stupid ******** ridiculous and your point is wasted? And you're just like, "HUH WHAT?" I've been with my current for awhile, and blocked out a lot of my past relationships so I don't really have a base of reference anymore. Is it just me, or are women really just quite bad at arguing? I feel like I'll be talking about something, or say something pretty good to back myself up, and then her response won't even be relevant. The thing is I can argue with a male friend and we can bullshot back and forth and no problem, it all makes sense, points are considered... it doesn't feel like bizzaro world. Seriously. Come on. Anyone else? You're thinking "HUH, WHAT?" when what should happen is you SPEAK. For instance, "What are you trying to say, because I'm not understanding where you're coming from on that" might be a good idea. You're just thinking about your own side of the argument, without considering what she's (or sometimes he) is trying to tell you, or whether she's (or he) is feeling an emotional response to something you previously said. Some people, men and women, respond from an emotional base first, then once they've calmed down a bit, because they've been given the space and time to do so, begin to get their head together and are able to respond in a much more reasoned way. Also, I think its really unfair to make such a sweeping statement about women. I've had plenty of arguments with people, men and women, where you feel you're butting your head against a brick wall because they're so caught up in their own side of the arguement they're incapable of listening to you or understanding that something they just said has poleaxed you into such an angry/upset place you're now responding from the gut instead of the head. If that happens I wait a day or so when people have time to think about things then pick it up again, especially if its important.
Kravick Drasari	Posted - 2008.05.24 22:53:00 - [19] Originally by: Kristiana Lee Originally by: Riethe When you guys are arguing with your girlfriends/wives, do you ever feel like you just made the most badass point ever, and then she just says something completely stupid ******** ridiculous and your point is wasted? And you're just like, "HUH WHAT?" I've been with my current for awhile, and blocked out a lot of my past relationships so I don't really have a base of reference anymore. Is it just me, or are women really just quite bad at arguing? I feel like I'll be talking about something, or say something pretty good to back myself up, and then her response won't even be relevant. The thing is I can argue with a male friend and we can bullshot back and forth and no problem, it all makes sense, points are considered... it doesn't feel like bizzaro world. Seriously. Come on. Anyone else? You're thinking "HUH, WHAT?" when what should happen is you SPEAK. For instance, "What are you trying to say, because I'm not understanding where you're coming from on that" might be a good idea. You're just thinking about your own side of the argument, without considering what she's (or sometimes he) is trying to tell you, or whether she's (or he) is feeling an emotional response to something you previously said. Some people, men and women, respond from an emotional base first, then once they've calmed down a bit, because they've been given the space and time to do so, begin to get their head together and are able to respond in a much more reasoned way. Also, I think its really unfair to make such a sweeping statement about women. I've had plenty of arguments with people, men and women, where you feel you're butting your head against a brick wall because they're so caught up in their own side of the arguement they're incapable of listening to you or understanding that something they just said has poleaxed you into such an angry/upset place you're now responding from the gut instead of the head. If that happens I wait a day or so when people have time to think about things then pick it up again, especially if its important. Yeah, you have no idea. Women must really not know what they do to men. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. Be a Ninja! You know you want too: http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?Kravick
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.24 23:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Kristiana Lee Also, I think its really unfair to make such a sweeping statement about women. I've had plenty of arguments with people, men and women, where you feel you're butting your head against a brick wall because they're so caught up in their own side of the arguement they're incapable of listening to you or understanding that something they just said has poleaxed you into such an angry/upset place you're now responding from the gut instead of the head. Thing is most guys when in such an argument pretty much know they are being a pain in the arse and intentionally obtuse (exception are bible thumpers...there is just no talking with them whether male or female). My personal, armchair psychologist, totally not backed up by any scientific theory or study whatsoever is men think in a linear fashion while women think in a circular fashion. So, to a male,If A Then B and Then C. They follow in rational order and makes sense. To a female If A and considering 2, @ & Q and what happened two years ago in a wholly unrelated incident you get G which has bearing on A. Note I will say circular and linear logic can each have their good points. Just the two are oil and water so men and women never figure each other out. Particularly men cannot follow women. Women can get the "If A then B" part but they find that far too simplistic and are puzzled that the guy cannot follow their circuitous thought processes (which, frankly to a male, seem just shy of being actually insane). -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Irish Whiskey Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.25 00:30:00 - [21] For reasons that escape logic, women blame men, any man will suffice, for the pain they felt giving birth and, by God, it is their sworn duty as Sisters of the Flesh to make him pay.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.05.25 01:34:00 - [22] Oh, women. From my experience, just don't argue with them. Tell her that you disagree or that she is flat-out wrong, tell them why, then stop paying attention to her. They really hate it when you do that.
Rawr Cristina Naqam Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.25 04:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Shirley Serious You're all wrong this even you! ...
Riethe Invictus Sovereignty	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:37:00 - [24] Originally by: Kristiana Lee Ignorance and way too much text Seriously you're not doing yourself any good here. There's still a problem. No one is on your side right now. This thread isn't for you.
Kristiana Lee Flying Fox Industries	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:54:00 - [25] Originally by: Riethe Originally by: Kristiana Lee Ignorance and way too much text Seriously you're not doing yourself any good here. There's still a problem. No one is on your side right now. This thread isn't for you. I hope you're not addressing this to me. That quote isn't in my response anywhere.
Kristiana Lee Flying Fox Industries	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Thing is most guys when in such an argument pretty much know they are being a pain in the arse and intentionally obtuse (exception are bible thumpers...there is just no talking with them whether male or female). My personal, armchair psychologist, totally not backed up by any scientific theory or study whatsoever is men think in a linear fashion while women think in a circular fashion. So, to a male,If A Then B and Then C. They follow in rational order and makes sense. To a female If A and considering 2, @ & Q and what happened two years ago in a wholly unrelated incident you get G which has bearing on A. Note I will say circular and linear logic can each have their good points. Just the two are oil and water so men and women never figure each other out. Particularly men cannot follow women. Women can get the "If A then B" part but they find that far too simplistic and are puzzled that the guy cannot follow their circuitous thought processes (which, frankly to a male, seem just shy of being actually insane). Agreed. My word, you nailed the point with that "what happened two years ago" comment. I can't speak for every woman, but I definitely do not live 'in the day' where my relationship is concerned. Its the whole deal from the start eighteen years ago, to now. I couldn't switch it off even if I wanted to. I wonder what the OP was arguing about and I wonder what caused his girlfriend to freak
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:43:00 - [27] Originally by: Riethe When you guys are arguing with your girlfriends/wives, do you ever feel like you just made the most badass point ever, and then she just says something completely stupid ******** ridiculous and your point is wasted? And you're just like, "HUH WHAT?" I've been with my current for awhile, and blocked out a lot of my past relationships so I don't really have a base of reference anymore. Is it just me, or are women really just quite bad at arguing? I feel like I'll be talking about something, or say something pretty good to back myself up, and then her response won't even be relevant. The thing is I can argue with a male friend and we can bullshot back and forth and no problem, it all makes sense, points are considered... it doesn't feel like bizzaro world. Seriously. Come on. Anyone else? Sounds very familiar. But it gets even better when it's breakup time and they didn't see it comming while you've been dropping hints for quite a bit. Once send This to her as a final " take a hint " thingy "
Benco97	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:47:00 - [28] Women are crazy, that's pretty much all you need to know. Every single one, completely loony. They take things so far out of context it's frankly amazing. You could just do what I do in regards to relationships with women, if you're having that much trouble. Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
kessah The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:56:00 - [29] lol this explains alot, btw the f word is in the image.
Riethe Invictus Sovereignty	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Kristiana Lee I hope you're not addressing this to me. That quote isn't in my response anywhere. Yes this was to you. Clearly you are in fact, female. Hurrrrrrrr Get out.

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