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Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:08:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:And how did he got the names from cancelled accounts? Magic? It's funny you should mention that, after all, he is a Wizard. |

RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:16:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:I got it too, all the names seemed to be people in my corp too.
Why does his name seem familiar?
I ended up on the same spam mail as mittens, Vile Rat, and 47 other goons. I'd reply-all, urging the recipients to vote for ~my ceo~ instead, but that'd be a severe case of preaching to the choir. |

Vaurion Infara
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
18
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:25:00 -
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Re: Re: Please vote for Trebor Daehdoow in the CSM elections From: Vaurion Infara Sent: 2012.03.07 22:22 To: Trebor Daehdoow,
I fundamentally stand against unsolicited evemails. Your excuse doesn't fly, just because you were actually on the last CSM. If you don't feel you have the same chance as last time, it reflects poorly on your assessment of your performance on the CSM.
You've opened up a serious can of worms, both for your chances at this CSM and for players all over, because now mass mailing will be needed just to compete. I hope that's not the case, but the possibility is there. Again, have a nice day.
Re: Please vote for Trebor Daehdoow in the CSM elections From: Trebor Daehdoow Sent: 2012.03.07 22:12 To: Vaurion Infara,
I understand where you're coming from, but the blunt reality is that directly contacting voters is the only way an independent candidate has of fighting against the huge organizational advantage of nullsec bloc candidates.
That's why I did a one-time mailing.
There's more details on what I did and why here: http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.com/2012/03/knocking-on-doors-in-outer-space.html
And I ran it by the GMs well in advance to make sure it would not cause any problems.
best Trebor
Re: Please vote for Trebor Daehdoow in the CSM elections From: Vaurion Infara Sent: 2012.03.07 17:35 To: Trebor Daehdoow
You automatically lose mine and my alliance's votes for spamming. Have a fine day.
MickeyFinn > Fyi Vaurion Infara is a bad apple in a bunch of good ones. Dont let his big mouth and moods bring you down! If anyone lives near him RL get him LAID! would help him a ton. Fly safe and gods speed. |

Togor Insapiens
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Li3 Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:33:00 -
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Where's my mail? I'm feeling left out if I don't receive a mail within the next minute I'm afraid you will of lost my vote. |

PsychoBitch
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
169
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:35:00 -
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F A I L - CCP
A message to me is START UP THE SPAM ENGINES!
Read the complete Platform here: http://www.eve-online-dark-taboo.com/vote/
If you want your vote to count just once in EVE vote for PsychoBitch.
Sick of CCP devs and their hair-brained, half-baked, blue-balled ideas?
Sick of self-important fat puds and frail half-elves on the CSM?
Sick of things in eve that should have been fixed A G E S ago not being fixed and new errors being introduced daily?
Make your one vote count finally, vote for PsychoBitch!
If you are voting for someone who has been in the CSM before - you have wasted your vote on F A I L
Don't be a failure, be a hero. Vote for PsychoBitch now!
Campaign Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOZAEbk7r0
If you don't drink whiskey - VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE If you don't like having sex with women - VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE If you don't live life on your own terms - VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE
THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IN LIFE - ANYTHING WRITTEN BELOW IGNORE |

Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1927
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:19:00 -
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One thing I would like to clarify is that the mails to the Goons (and some other nullsec blocs) were accidental.
After I had compiled my list, I filtered it by estimated priority, and obviously people in Goonswarm aren't going to vote for me, so they and others ended up at the bottom of the list. But somehow they didn't get deleted.
If it's any consolation, this caused me to (a) waste several hours and (b) receive quite a large number of EVEmails from aggrieved goons. Some of them were quite eloquent and enlarged my vocabulary. The Polls are open! Click here to vote for Trebor *-áMy Election Thread * Voter's Guide |

Jenshae Chiroptera
468
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:20:00 -
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Rundle Allnighter wrote:I see only a few things here:
1) People who are ...
I do not vote as I do not believe in democracy. I immediately throw away all mail that is not directly addressed to me, I boycott all brands that I become aware of and I mute the TV during advertising breaks. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |

Vaurion Infara
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
19
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:23:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:One thing I would like to clarify is that the mails to the Goons (and some other nullsec blocs) were accidental.
After I had compiled my list, I filtered it by estimated priority, and obviously people in Goonswarm aren't going to vote for me, so they and others ended up at the bottom of the list. But somehow they didn't get deleted.
If it's any consolation, this caused me to (a) waste several hours and (b) receive quite a large number of EVEmails from aggrieved goons. Some of them were quite eloquent and enlarged my vocabulary.
I like you Trebor, I think you're one of the few guys I'd actually want on the CSM. I just don't like mass mails, or the possibility of this becoming an actual and widespread campaign tactic. I'm protesting against the method, not the person. Unfortunately, you happened to be the first one to do it.
MickeyFinn > Fyi Vaurion Infara is a bad apple in a bunch of good ones. Dont let his big mouth and moods bring you down! If anyone lives near him RL get him LAID! would help him a ton. Fly safe and gods speed. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2569
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Posted - 2012.03.08 00:26:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:One thing I would like to clarify is that the mails to the Goons (and some other nullsec blocs) were accidental.
After I had compiled my list, I filtered it by estimated priority, and obviously people in Goonswarm aren't going to vote for me, so they and others ended up at the bottom of the list. But somehow they didn't get deleted.
If it's any consolation, this caused me to (a) waste several hours and (b) receive quite a large number of EVEmails from aggrieved goons. Some of them were quite eloquent and enlarged my vocabulary. I appreciate that you considered me a potential vote that could be achieved, as well as my good friend Hulk Basher on the evemail. Regrettably I had already voted for the Chairman For Life, so your efforts were in vain. |

Flamespar
Woof Club
293
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Posted - 2012.03.08 00:43:00 -
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I'm not fussed about a CSM member sending me an email. I mean, the Goons are rabidly spamming the threads of other candidates like Issler with their usual crap and it seems to be tolerated.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose Band of Wanderers
10
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Posted - 2012.03.08 01:00:00 -
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I have no problem with mail under political conditions like this.
Nice move that hopefully caught the attention of many voters. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
257
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:10:00 -
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Ovidia Rhianon wrote:If you really want to get back at Trebor vote for Mittens.
He's arguably just done that to himself.
Champion, bru. Champion.
[tinfoilhattery]
I wonder if...someone...put him up to it?
[/tinfoilhattery]
Seriously, mate:
Not. *******. Cool. In irae, veritas. |

Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1930
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:21:00 -
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Vaurion Infara wrote:I like you Trebor, I think you're one of the few guys I'd actually want on the CSM. I just don't like mass mails, or the possibility of this becoming an actual and widespread campaign tactic. I'm protesting against the method, not the person. Unfortunately, you happened to be the first one to do it. I'm perfectly fine with that -- and btw, direct outreach via evemail has been used in prior elections.
It is no secret that I think there are serious flaws in the CSM voting mechanic, and that discussions about changing it will be a priority for me if I get re-elected. If a reasonably fair election environment can be worked out that permits some sort of balanced direct outreach, then I'd have no problems with additional restrictions on evemailing by candidates.
BTW, Ender Black totally put the issue in the right perspective in this blog post.
The Polls are open! Click here to vote for Trebor *-áMy Election Thread * Voter's Guide |

Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
5
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:49:00 -
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Quote:If I were dumb enough to take you seriously, I wouldn't deserve your vote. :)
However, I do believe that Darius III is once again offering PLEX for votes.
best Trebor
Re: Please vote for Trebor Daehdoow in the CSM elections From: Elijah Bry'an Baudoin Sent: 2012.03.07 11:16 To: Trebor Daehdoow
How much ISK per vote we talking here?
Don't sell yourself short.
Obviously he doesn't want it that badly.
Whoever gets on the CSM can we commoditize votes like everything else in this game? A market opportunity is going begging here. |

riverini
Reliables Inc Initiative Mercenaries
501
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Posted - 2012.03.08 04:10:00 -
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Trebor, this is a shameful decision and I can see possible the storm of spam this could create. This smells like an act of desperation, specially since you took no effort in pre-campaigning under the premise "likes aren't important". Now we know why.
Then you post a piece trying to justify this lunacy... Throwing garbage into a player's inbox is not "keeping in touch" with voters, and you know it. Having sent emails to the Mittani, Me and other csm candidates clearly shows a lack of measure when throwing the spam. You sure you were Copy / Pasting them urself?
In my opinion CCP GM reaction is even worse. What keeps someone like Darius III to spam dubios PLEX4VOTES offers now? Basically they are just asking for trouble. It only takes a few well written emails to spark another scandal in the mainstream media, if those emails haven't been sent already.
Trebor, at least now I see you hold a special (and desperate) interest in clawing yourself to your current CSM post, at all cost. I'll find the reason. As for CCP Games, we the CSM candidates shouldn't hold special treatment over other players. If Trebor didn't bother himself in campaigning that's not our problem, a bad precedent is being set.
R RIVERINI / EVENEWS24 @evenews24 |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
753
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Posted - 2012.03.08 04:21:00 -
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Peter Powers wrote:so actually you are saying it is allowed to automate the usage of evegate by a script to send evemail
or do you just look the other way on how someone can evemail a few thousand users, and claim you think its done manually? ~1.000.000 characters / 50 recipients = 20.000 mailings
Trebor, since he has programming skills knows how to sort them by weight (likelihood of voting for him) and cull out unlikely voters, could easily reduce the list down to 5-10.000 mails. (100.000-200.000 recipients likely to vote for him)
It is possible to make a program that will fill his copy buffer with the next list automatically, and all he would need to do is paste and click send. This would be manual, not scripted, as has been confirmed by CCP in many other cases where key macros have been used to be defined as manual.
So, properly set up he could probably do one per 10 seconds or so, meaning that he'd spend 3 hours per 1.000 mailings. (20.000 recipients) 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2012.03.08 05:34:00 -
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Rundle Allnighter wrote:How many of you got Alliance or Corporation eve-mails telling you to vote for candidate X? And then came here to cry about getting one mail from a candidate not in your alliance or corp? We actually got them via our out-of-game comms. It's different because we never read eve-mails, I don't know who first noticed they got sent a CSM one. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

leboe
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
214
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Posted - 2012.03.08 06:24:00 -
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Generic candidate sending out generic mails, nbs You can vote for me for CSM 7 here: http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=471
Find more details about my platform here-áhttp://smallgangpvp.blogspot.com/ |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
302
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Posted - 2012.03.08 07:35:00 -
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Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor. Shame on you, Trebor.
That's one for each spam mail I got to delete so far. I count on the list growing.  EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |

asidburn Enaka
Alpha Arms and Manufacturing BROTHERHOOD OF DESTRUCTION
0
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Posted - 2012.03.08 08:18:00 -
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i just want to let everyone know about this scammer claming to be giving plex for votes dont be caught falling for this scam vote aganist darius III member of interstellar eXodus {IE-EX} they are scaming people pass the word on to everyone you can and vote aganist these undeserving jerks here is a copy of the chat log as proof of there unworthy actions!!!!!!!!
asidburn Enaka > what do i need to do Darius III > http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=480 go there Darius III > vote for me then paste the message you got after vote cast into this chat asidburn Enaka > your vote has been registered. We thank you for your participation. Darius III > Thanks man Darius III > that concludes our business Darius III > Fly safe asidburn Enaka > and what about the contract asidburn Enaka > i will have my alliance vote aganist you about 250 people asidburn Enaka > and then where will you be asidburn Enaka > send me the contract and i will have them vote for you asidburn Enaka > this is what we call a test of charecture Darius III > Have them vote against me Darius III > Sorry for the ssam Darius III > But I wouldnt sleep at night if I didnt do everything in my power to make syure that Goons dont ruin this CSM asidburn Enaka > your an idiot all your going to do is send more votes to the goons Darius III > not really Darius III > Goons will win chairman nbo matetr what, doesnt matter Darius III > nothing can stop them Darius III > and thats a real shame asidburn Enaka > well you just lost 243 votes asidburn Enaka > got 1 lost 243 Darius III > Didnt have them anyway Darius III > didnt lose anything Darius III > Just please dont make forum post about me, it would ruin my campaign asidburn Enaka > not to mentone att the isk spam bans you r about to get asidburn Enaka > too late asidburn Enaka > and i just copyed this conv asidburn Enaka > so i can post Darius III > You wouldnt dare do it Darius III > You too lazy anyway Darius III > I dont have a thing to worry about asidburn Enaka > haha i play eve 8 hrs a day and im retired all i have is time Darius III > no lazy bones like you would waste their time. LOL so much for your empty threats LOL
rember i dont care who you vote for just dont voter for the |
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Peter Powers
FinFleet Raiden.
74
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:23:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote: After I had compiled my list, I filtered it by estimated priority, and obviously people in Goonswarm aren't going to vote for me, so they and others ended up at the bottom of the list. But somehow they didn't get deleted.
that happens when you automate stuff..
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Peter Powers
FinFleet Raiden.
74
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:44:00 -
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riverini wrote: Trebor, at least now I see you hold a special (and desperate) interest in clawing yourself to your current CSM post, at all cost. I'll find the reason.
As much as i don't like the spam and how CCP is handling it, because im kinda convinced Trebor automated things, i have to say that he in all cases makes or would make a better CSM than you.
The Issue i'm having is more with CCPs behaviour in this story, turning a blind eye on someone doing stuff that they dont allow others todo - the CSM originally was found to give players a way to check if CCP is practising favoritism for any bloc in the game, but that purpose has long been forgotten. Still a shame CCP seems to practise this for CSM members now.
You implying that Trebor has something to hide there is kinda funny, you should look at Trebors history, and even if i don't agree with his approaches, i can respect how much work he puts into the CSM.
At least his motivation is not to get a place in CSM to have more people go to his website and click on banners, and we all know who's driven by that motivation, right, riverini?
well the post is exemplary for the kind of "news" your website stands for, made up stuff that fits the interest of the inventor. I have not forgotten your speech about "implied evidence" about russians botting, and then publishing an article on what bots are and how to keep bot save on your website. Even if the article has been removed meanwhile, the internet does not forget, everyone who googles its title (not mentioning it here, since you have done enough damage to the game allready) is still able to find your guide.
If you ask me, you should never have been allowed as a candidate.
You attacking Trebor in this light looks alot more desperate than what Trebor did to me.
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Peter Powers
FinFleet Raiden.
74
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:47:00 -
[143] - Quote
failing at editing =) |

Aiifa
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
32
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Posted - 2012.03.08 12:24:00 -
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Seems Trebor had his demographic all along: jita spammers.
How could you forget the jita spammers, Trebor. Shame on you. 
If you get on the CSM I hope you advocate for the return of freeform contracts and the old more confusing font. |

Macon Chalaise
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:49:00 -
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So...A space man in a space game uses automated space communication to promote his space political platform and people freak out and get angry?
What an utter and complete waste of time and energy...only the people who choose to feel badly about it, feel badly about it.
MMOs seem to be a clearing house for persons not only vigilant for offense but ready to embrace said offense with the greatest enthusiasm and embrace it like an addict embraces the rock.
Spam emails are not new, in fact according this games timeline they are about, oh, 21,000+ years old.
He only sent them once of which I know.
Don't worry. Be happy!
P.S. It's odd enough not having the automated mining that would surely exist in such a modern, automated society. Shoobie doobie doobie. |

Laechyd Eldgorn
Molden Heath Angels
33
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:59:00 -
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There's no way I'd vote Trebor but just sending one mail for everyone isn't really spam. (in this case since it's CSM election advert)
I confirm there was a good bunch of bitches spamming response button for no good reason though. Most of them probably goons or goon alts. So go figure who's spamming.
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Peter Powers
FinFleet Raiden.
75
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Posted - 2012.03.08 16:01:00 -
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Laechyd Eldgorn wrote:There's no way I'd vote Trebor but just sending one mail for everyone isn't really spam. (in this case since it's CSM election advert)
I confirm there was a good bunch of bitches spamming response button for no good reason though. Most of them probably goons or goon alts. So go figure who's spamming.
Quote:Spam is the use of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately. While the most widely recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam, Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, online classified ads spam, mobile phone messaging spam, Internet forum spam, junk fax transmissions, social networking spam, television advertising and file sharing network spam. It is named for Spam, a luncheon meat, by way of a Monty Python sketch in which Spam is included in almost every dish.
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riverini
Reliables Inc Initiative Mercenaries
503
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Posted - 2012.03.08 18:31:00 -
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Peter Powers wrote:
well the post is exemplary for the kind of "news" your website stands for, made up stuff that fits the interest of the inventor. I have not forgotten your speech about "implied evidence" about russians botting, and then publishing an article on what bots are and how to keep bot save on your website. Even if the article has been removed meanwhile, the internet does not forget, everyone who googles its title (not mentioning it here, since you have done enough damage to the game allready) is still able to find your guide.
If you ask me, you should never have been allowed as a candidate.
You attacking Trebor in this light looks alot more desperate - than what Trebor did - to me.
Peter you have always struck me as a angst filled resented person and I find a world of solace in the fact that my existence and Eve News24 existence is something that has always grind your gears.
I have mentioned more than once the correlation of the readership of Eve News24 as a byproduct of increasing the Eve Online population, which I don't find conflicting with CCP Games. Eve-Kill, which is an organization closer to you will benefit for this just as many other third party outfits.
I know your extreme lack of computer knowledge might give you a hard time differentiating a an article on how to setup a VPN with a botting article. A communication channel was open to CCP, they advised us not to publish it and we complied. We made a lot of noise, raised the awareness on the issue and we don't regret on never putting out the actual guides, given the CCP's work on bot control.
I was allowed to run and many Raiden. members have chivalrously expressed their support and send an "3 votes for you" evemail, what ever the result of the election; they have my never ending gratitude.
Again, you aversion means a world to me, I have created a long lasting impression on you, whether you feel good or bad about it.
I'll try to solve this Trebor puzzle. I do agree with you on the suspicions that an automated method might be used. But I think we'll never know. RIVERINI / EVENEWS24 @evenews24 |

Katherine Starlight
Apex Tech Xenogenesis Alliance
36
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Posted - 2012.03.09 05:34:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Vaurion Infara wrote:I like you Trebor, I think you're one of the few guys I'd actually want on the CSM. I just don't like mass mails, or the possibility of this becoming an actual and widespread campaign tactic. I'm protesting against the method, not the person. Unfortunately, you happened to be the first one to do it. I'm perfectly fine with that -- and btw, direct outreach via evemail has been used in prior elections. It is no secret that I think there are serious flaws in the CSM voting mechanic, and that discussions about changing it will be a priority for me if I get re-elected. If a reasonably fair election environment can be worked out that permits some sort of balanced direct outreach, then I'd have no problems with additional restrictions on evemailing by candidates. BTW, Ender Black totally put the issue in the right perspective in this blog post. Is there any way to report you for spamming, linking to third party sites telling one to log in with all ones accounts to vote for you etc. You look like a scammer, why would anyone want you as CSM when you try to steal our accounts. |

discordigant
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.09 05:58:00 -
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Posting in a Test/Goon pet BUTTHURT thread.  
Ohh wait i got one single spam mail from this Trebor madman too. how can i ever cope with this invasion of my privacy and my time?














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