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Mattikus
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.25 06:47:00 -
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Sounds to me you guys are just cheapskates that are tryin to get something for nothing. Quit *****ing and pay up...end of story.
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X3k5
Brotherhood of the Phoenix Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.05.25 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: X3k5 on 25/05/2008 07:15:03 Easy for the Americans, they dont get affected by this at all(price wise). Whip out your credit card. YAY!!!!
For the europeans, this is ****ed up. If we pay by credit card, first thing, its in Euro which is more powerful so the price is already up, and add on the extra 17.5% VAT.
The only way we could get the same price as you was by using GTCs. There goes that option. Now by paypal is the only way we can even get close.
And the OP seems to be dreaming that Europeans pay less.
As for the price raise, yes they are not increasing the price of the game, only of the GTCs which basically translates to "They are increasing the price of the game for the europeans!"
And for your comment on the economics of it all, we are not talking about the reasoning behind the price change. We are saying that the price was increased and it was, no matter what the reason maybe.
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Robinete Broadhead
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Posted - 2008.05.25 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: X3k5 EDIT:
Europe 1-month-plan Ç 14.95 ----------- $23.58 3-month-plan Ç 38.85 ----------- $61.28 6-month-plan Ç 71.70 ----------- $113.10 12-month-plan Ç 131.40 ---------- $207.28
Outside Europe 1-month-plan $ 14.95 3-month-plan $ 38.85 6-month-plan $ 71.70 12-month-plan $ 131.40
Care to do the math again using convertion rates for 2004 to 2006? Wonder who was paying more then.
Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.25 19:21:00 -
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all you whiners should look into the other means of payment that ccp offers
I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them. |
IonKnight
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Posted - 2008.05.25 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 20:01:27 Hmm this is rubbish any US player moaning about anything should shut up. You have always Paid less than us no matter what . Its always been either the same price or more expensive for EURopean players. Never has it been more expensive to be american than european.
Hehe MotherMoon u couldnt be more wrong but hey Ur probably an american so who cares about what u have to say on this subject as u obviously havent talked to any european player who has to pay in EURO instead of Dollars.
Personnally i think CPP should make everyone pay the same by using EURO's. If ur american stop *****ing ur inflation means that u get paid the same amount as us (mcdonolds working in UK ú5 pounds America $10 dollars).
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Iyanah
MX3 Development Zzz
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Posted - 2008.05.25 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Khudo Edited by: Khudo on 24/05/2008 18:21:36 MATH 101
Old 90 days GTC = 39$. -> Around 0.43$ per day
New 60 days GTC = 35$ -> Around 0.58$ per day
Difference -> +0,15$ / day
Do the math Net increase +34%
Bybye failure man.
yeah, but since the dollar is worth next to nothing, that works out as... well it's probably still cheaper for those of us using real currency :P ========================================== that's no moon... oh, wait, yes it is, the space station's out the other window. |
Hohenheim OfLight
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.25 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Hohenheim OfLight on 25/05/2008 22:15:03 Can some one point me to the official CCP is going to **** you in the arse thread? I have been away for a week, and can not see any other mention of this, God i hate the stupid information portal. ----------------------------------------------
Is mining for a hel mad? or just ambishus?
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IonKnight
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Posted - 2008.05.25 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 22:22:06 To be honest the whole reason why most ppl are moaning in the first place is cause of the massive price difference in subsciption fees. We wouldnt have to buy GTC's if the price for eve what exactly the same everywhere.
Its cheaper for an american full stop they can get a year subsciption which would still be cheaper than any GTC's seller. So why don't we have the same option. BAH
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Squasar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.25 22:23:00 -
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Can't help it that the US dollar sucks and Europe has extreme VAT taxes.
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Cunny
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Posted - 2008.05.26 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: IonKnight stuff
I give this post a 5.5 out of 10 on the troll-o-meter.
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Jakus Orellius
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Posted - 2008.05.26 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jakus Orellius on 26/05/2008 01:59:14 Basically Europe is getting over. For those *****ing about people complaining, saying we should pay up... go yourselves, some of us live on tight budgets, and being told to pay up by American's just takes the ****.
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.05.26 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon WOW reading comprehension! a few figured it out. lets do some math!
also how does anyone buy a time card without a credit card unless they want to buy isk?
Paypal/debit card combo.
Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route. |
xena zena
Catalyst Corporation Dominatus Phasmatis
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Posted - 2008.05.26 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: IonKnight Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 20:01:27 Hmm this is rubbish any US player moaning about anything should shut up. You have always Paid less than us no matter what . Its always been either the same price or more expensive for EURopean players. Never has it been more expensive to be american than european.
from 2000-2002 there where periods where the euro was worth LESS then the American dollar, admittedly not a lot less, but less non-the-same. So your statement "has never been" is wrong.
Secondly the loss of 30day and 90day GTC's does affect Americans, those of us without credit cards that use them and those of us that buy them with isk. So don't say this issue is Euro only, because it's NOT.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.26 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Robinete Broadhead
Originally by: X3k5 EDIT:
Europe 1-month-plan Ç 14.95 ----------- $23.58 3-month-plan Ç 38.85 ----------- $61.28 6-month-plan Ç 71.70 ----------- $113.10 12-month-plan Ç 131.40 ---------- $207.28
Outside Europe 1-month-plan $ 14.95 3-month-plan $ 38.85 6-month-plan $ 71.70 12-month-plan $ 131.40
Care to do the math again using convertion rates for 2004 to 2006? Wonder who was paying more then.
Care to demonstrate that the difference was over 50% as now?
Care to make a prediction that the dollar is likely to return to such levels in the forseeable future?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.26 08:07:00 -
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I don't know about you but the falling dollar doesn't influence my salary in the least..
I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them. |
Prochura
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Posted - 2008.05.26 08:16:00 -
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I'm a poor Europian student, i buy GTC from shattered crystal because paying with credit card in europe is way more/too expensive. I could manage 2 accounts doing this, but with the price increase coming i don't think i'll be able to afford my second account.
Bye bye money, ccp
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.26 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Prochura I'm a poor Europian student, i buy GTC from shattered crystal because paying with credit card in europe is way more/too expensive. I could manage 2 accounts doing this, but with the price increase coming i don't think i'll be able to afford my second account.
Bye bye money, ccp
Hmmm it's summer now. No studying to be done, right?
Grind level 4s for a week and buy some GTCs for ISK. You can easily crank 200M/day, so a week or so should see you paid up for 3 months.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
FenikSar
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.26 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kappas. Although I see the logic and somewhat agree with raising the price of the subscription overall, I don't get why they don't do it to credit card payers as well, rather than having differing prices between different payment options, and people getting penalised for not having/wanting a credit card.
The extra price is shipping.. so if they increse the sub for CC uses guess what your time card goes up cos the shipping still gets added on top. I Cant Read And I Cant Write But I Can Fly An Apoc.
*For Live Ingame Price Checks. Visit the ingame channel price_check.* |
omglollolol
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Posted - 2008.05.26 08:39:00 -
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I tell you some math here...
15 euro - 27$ per month...
60GTC - 38$ per 2 months vs 54$ via subsribtion from euro players paying euro.
if they raise subscription via cc.. who cares? ____________________________ You may not share my intellect, which might explain your disrespect, for all I say ;p _________________ |
Drizit
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Darineah Charach Everywhere else in the world pretty much.
Then How come GTC sold in UK cost more than those sold in USA? Don't say economical difference since USA'a economy is far more stable than the UK's and the difference between cost of living and wages is far better in USA. Don't even think of getting me started on taxes!
UK always has had a raw deal when pricing is done in US dollars across the board. Most companies just change the sign but don't adjust according to the exchange rate. Therefore they pretend that $1 = ú1 and in effect, that means we pay almost twice the price. Just come to the UK and look at printed barcode prices on McGraw-Hill computer books that are printed in USA etc. Why do you think so many people in the UK buy from US sites and have the goods shipped over? Simply because even adding the price of shipping, it's cheaper than you can buy it here.
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tidsear
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Posted - 2008.05.26 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: xena zena
from 2000-2002 there where periods where the euro was worth LESS then the American dollar, admittedly not a lot less, but less non-the-same. So your statement "has never been" is wrong.
EVE just had it's 5 year anniversary...ppl were paying CCP in 2000-2002? |
Alassra Eventide
Veldspar Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:07:00 -
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Didn't want to jump into these type discussion but...
If they remove the retailers for the GTCs, and only sell them in their stores...why would they bother keeping the GTCs around?
Having a game time card, and having your company (which normally just does a straight subscription charge) being the only ones to sell it just doesn't make sense.
Not defending or lambasting CCP over this, just wanted to point out that the "Get rid of GTC retailers and just sell them in your store" comments didn't make a single bit of sense.
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Cameron Vayle
Omnicron Industrial Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jernau Riggs A simple fix would have been to make american game time codes only work for american accounts
This would be the best fix CCP could do for this matter.
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Cire XIII
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:30:00 -
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The question I have is what is the use of GTC retailers come June 15th? If the price is standardized then CCP should be able to handle selling them all. If it gives discounts to retailers then the retailers will lower CCP's sell price and do more business with less per unit profit.
It will also be interesting to see how other MMOGs react. I don't think eve will be hurt too bad by this, but it does set a dangerous precedent. MMOGs are addictive and progressive with hundreds of hours spent on a character. In order to keep that item people are more willing to pay out because of the bond with their character. The "industry standard" might become "hook players, then up the prices". Like the drug MMOGs are.
I would be much more "won over" if CCP announced it was in financial trouble, or offered some more believable, detialed explanation. Price correction to inflation is understandable. CCP did not state that as the reason.
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.26 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cire XIII The question I have is what is the use of GTC retailers come June 15th? If the price is standardized then CCP should be able to handle selling them all. If it gives discounts to retailers then the retailers will lower CCP's sell price and do more business with less per unit profit.
It will also be interesting to see how other MMOGs react. I don't think eve will be hurt too bad by this, but it does set a dangerous precedent. MMOGs are addictive and progressive with hundreds of hours spent on a character. In order to keep that item people are more willing to pay out because of the bond with their character. The "industry standard" might become "hook players, then up the prices". Like the drug MMOGs are.
I would be much more "won over" if CCP announced it was in financial trouble, or offered some more believable, detialed explanation. Price correction to inflation is understandable. CCP did not state that as the reason.
Very good post with a lot of insight and not the usual moronic "ccp is bussines doh"
But even explaining the price hike the removal of of 30day and 90day gtc for the sake of streamlining is just wierd and very bad for the gtc users.And why 60 days ?
What's next Coke selling only 1L bottles for the sake of streamlining ?
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.27 02:41:00 -
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Don't worry, once the Euro crashes back down, as it only survived in the first place due to massive investment from outside sources (including the US), you'll be paying around the same amount then, maybe even less if our next president doesn't take our very unstable, yet surviving, economy and crash it through the floor.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.27 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Prochura I'm a poor Europian student, i buy GTC from shattered crystal because paying with credit card in europe is way more/too expensive. I could manage 2 accounts doing this, but with the price increase coming i don't think i'll be able to afford my second account.
Bye bye money, ccp
funny thing is, the new time cards are in fact trying to balance to make them cost for americans what it cost you guys over there.
thus you'll be giving them more money I think than before.
look back for where I figure out it's not an increase to anyone but people that are trying to pay less for eve/ don't have a cerdit card/ don't realize you can use your debit card.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.27 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Alassra Eventide Didn't want to jump into these type discussion but...
If they remove the retailers for the GTCs, and only sell them in their stores...why would they bother keeping the GTCs around?
Having a game time card, and having your company (which normally just does a straight subscription charge) being the only ones to sell it just doesn't make sense.
Not defending or lambasting CCP over this, just wanted to point out that the "Get rid of GTC retailers and just sell them in your store" comments didn't make a single bit of sense.
sure it makes sense.. well it makes as much sense as selling them to other people to sell in the frist place.
why do you think it's better for an online store to sell them over CCP?
it's basically for people that can't pay by card for some reason (thqat and trading for isk)
CCP already sells 50 day and 100 day cards on the site.
really 5$ extra just for the resellers doesn't make sense.
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