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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.04 05:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Rono Vizu
Yeah and tbh prices should have fallen a long time ago......
Prices on ships cant realy fall below the insurance fraud price.
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Kelmor Malbeth
HellJumpers Corp
Diabolic Paradox
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Posted - 2008.06.04 11:53:00 -
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There was another opption that i didn`t see anyone else mention (maybe i missed it)
if you can not make the ship for the lowest price, look to where you can sell it for the highest.
People (well at least some) are lazy, a fair few would rather pay 10m + over the odds for a ship that is in the same station as they are rather than travle x amount of jumps to buy the cheapest. it requiers more thought and analysis of where you think ships are being brought (and by who for what) and maybe some more paitents.
for example any ship thats used for pvp are likily to have a higher demand in low sec areas (yes there is risk in getting ships there, but risk = reward)
it`s a player driven market, i can guarnetee you that these other people are not making a string of battle ships to lose isk on them... just try to think though the problem and find a soultion that works for you, there are hundreds of possiblities. if you can`t find one maybe manufacturing is not for you.
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Nekopyat
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Redwidth
It isn't that simple. Builder is relying on trader to buy those ships to make a one day sale, or else they are stuck selling to the same 'one ship every 4 days' market the trader is. If they already bought and are waiting to sell one 120m ship, they aren't likely to keep buying them for the next four days.
Quite true. My example was very simplified and is only a potential situation depending on what the market actually looks like. A more realistic example would be the builder rotating what they produce so they do not oversaturate the market for a specific ship.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.06.04 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kazzac Elentria on 04/06/2008 16:01:36
Originally by: Karanth
Trader D, being a trader, yes just made a nice profit. However Trader D now has those assets locked in a sell order that will take time.
Another misnomer builders tend to think about traders.
If we are buying up and relisting, rest assured that we have the current volume in our mind when we buy everything out. We'll have that liquid faster than you can imagine really.
Buying up and relisting does always have the end goal of profiting of each item.
Keep that in mind when pricing your items against traders  |
Blazing Fire
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.05 10:50:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Oakrayven
Edited by: Oakrayven on 26/05/2008 04:22:04
ok lets see just how many assumptions you are makeing
1) that he flies a hulk
2) that hes a mining indi and not a missioning indi like me
1b& 2b)that "he" actualy mines his minerals and does not get them on the market place, after all some people get their minerals for a fraction of the mineral value by buying loot/roids-minerals as it is with their system wide buy orders
3) that its not an alt thats making the sale that never leaves the hanger
4) that he is on at the same time you are.
5 that he dosent have enough of a tank on his ship hold out untill concord shows up to blow you to scrap for even trying.
6) that hes flying something that is expensive for him to replace. (theirs people I know who are pefectly fine flying low rent frigates)
7) that you podkilling him will make him give a crap. and if he PvPs, the odds of him giveing a crap about loosing yet another ship/clone are between nill and none.
if any one of thoes things that you are assuming is incorect then your odds of trashing whatever it is he is flying and thus hurting his fealings, well they aint so good are they?
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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.05 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blazing Fire
Originally by: Oakrayven
Edited by: Oakrayven on 26/05/2008 04:22:04
ok lets see just how many assumptions you are makeing
1) that he flies a hulk
2) that hes a mining indi and not a missioning indi like me
1b& 2b)that "he" actualy mines his minerals and does not get them on the market place, after all some people get their minerals for a fraction of the mineral value by buying loot/roids-minerals as it is with their system wide buy orders
3) that its not an alt thats making the sale that never leaves the hanger
4) that he is on at the same time you are.
5 that he dosent have enough of a tank on his ship hold out untill concord shows up to blow you to scrap for even trying.
6) that hes flying something that is expensive for him to replace. (theirs people I know who are pefectly fine flying low rent frigates)
7) that you podkilling him will make him give a crap. and if he PvPs, the odds of him giveing a crap about loosing yet another ship/clone are between nill and none.
if any one of thoes things that you are assuming is incorect then your odds of trashing whatever it is he is flying and thus hurting his fealings, well they aint so good are they?
THIS!
oh thats you?
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Yuki Asuka
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Posted - 2008.06.06 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Saska D'light
How can anyone possibly defend stupidity of the magnitude unless they are doing it themselves. The reason this has happened is very simple. Moron A has seen the prices at 140 million and wants a quick sale so puts price at 125 million, now moron B sees this and thinks "!*gleee*" and instead of putting in at 140 mill and waiting 2 days for the silly cheap ships to sell puts his in at the same price. Moron C repeats this.
Welcome to Economics, moron.
People can charge whatever price the market will bear. Obviously there are a lot of people buying maelstroms, so they can change whatever they want. Don't like it, don't buy one.
And if somebody else undercuts your price, you have to deal with the competition. What are suggesting, CCP regulate market prices to prevent competitive pricing? Communism! 
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Gantrithor105
Acerbus Vindictum
Critical Dissent
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Janus Cohen
At the risk of sounding like walmart..... I like the idea of falling prices. Seeing that mining cost next to nothing, and that you can have a corp full of miners means that you could build and sell ships for any price that you want. If you buy minerals, well that sucks for you.... I think it would do wonders for EVE to have a corp that acts like Walmart.....lol could call it the sweatshoppe alliance
Congrats... you're an idiot. Go play counter-strike
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Janus Cohen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 19:15:00 -
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Hey no need to be mean dude. I was just asking why not have falling prices? If some one wants to undercut the competition let them it is the way of a free market.
Because when it is all said and done, it is about who has the most isk. |
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