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Joingash Gaiden	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:32:00 - [1] In the short: it sucks. Every gate is heavily guarded by hostile faction, travel into hostile territories is impossible, you should be in gang and fight at every gate.... Those plex places are stupid too: you cannot enter with almost any ship, but defender can have anything they wish. Oh there are so many things wrong... it bore me to even tell them all. Well you'll find them by yourself when this curse will fall upon eve. Seriously: every "major patch" bring in boring stuff, eve was so enjoyble, it is becoming worst every month. I'm seriously thinking to leave and join AoC.
Hawkspur Firestarter TiS Industries Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:37:00 - [2] Edited by: Hawkspur Firestarter on 25/05/2008 18:37:08 Obligatory "can I have your stuff?"
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:40:00 - [3] Quote: Those plex places are stupid too: you cannot enter with almost any ship, but defender can have anything they wish. Wtf?

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:43:00 - [4] Quote: Those plex places are stupid too: you cannot enter with almost any ship, but defender can have anything they wish. This is incorrect.

Estel Arador AFK	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Joingash Gaiden travel into hostile territories is impossible, you should be in gang and fight at every gate.... Incorrect too; they don't warp scramble so you can travel through their space, you just can't stick around for too long. Skills Explained
Andrest Disch Debitum Naturae Wrath.	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:46:00 - [6] You forget that seeing as though everything is free, problems are amplified. For example, blobs of tech2 ships can suicide, caqrriers and dreads can be used to camp everything in space - And anyways, pirates are going to break up camps and stuff if it efefcts them to much.
Xorxarle	Posted - 2008.05.25 18:54:00 - [7] I'm sorry but please go off to AoC and whine there. Every gate is not camped, hell I was able to pass through some of the bigger camps in a Catalyst with minimal problems all on my lonesome. The smaller plexes are restricted to particular ship types for all factions, regardless if they are attacking or defending.
Joingash Gaiden	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Joingash Gaiden travel into hostile territories is impossible, you should be in gang and fight at every gate.... Incorrect too; they don't warp scramble so you can travel through their space, you just can't stick around for too long. they do
Alski Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:29:00 - [9] Captain! i'm detecting massive troll altage in this sector! - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Jowen Datloran Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:31:00 - [10] Originally by: Joingash Gaiden Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Joingash Gaiden travel into hostile territories is impossible, you should be in gang and fight at every gate.... Incorrect too; they don't warp scramble so you can travel through their space, you just can't stick around for too long. they do If so I suggest you go here. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
IonKnight	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:38:00 - [11] Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 19:45:50 Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 19:44:43 Bah only thing that gets on my nerves is that either everyone will join caldari (cause noone likes getting shot when they are in jita). Can someone please confirm if this is correct as otherwise it will mean i just wont be with FW. ALso this guy is kinda right but has got the wrong end of the stick it wont be that the defender force or whatever will be harder as gates wil be guarded. What will actually happen is FW will end before its starts simply because its in Low Sec and Guess what in Low sec. Pretty much every pirate atm is dancing and clapping there hands why u say ? Well gee let me think. Well lets see whats going to happen when a noob goes to low sec, oh he dies. What happens to quite a few noobs going into low sec, oh lots of dead noobs. Simply put i cant see this working at all as all pirates will be doing all day is killing ppl trying to do FW. However hey im not going to complain just means more PVP for us.
Estel Arador AFK	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:52:00 - [12] Originally by: Joingash Gaiden Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Joingash Gaiden travel into hostile territories is impossible, you should be in gang and fight at every gate.... Incorrect too; they don't warp scramble so you can travel through their space, you just can't stick around for too long. they do I get the impression that your impression of Empyrean Age is based on, well, nothing. Not facts at least. When I tested the new navy response on SiSi I was wtfpwned pretty soon, including a lot of electronic warfare bugging me, but I wasn't warp scrambled. That experience is in line with what was announced in the Dev Blog: Quote: The Navies have finally twigged that two frigates and a cruiser aren't really a significant threat these days, so they've upgraded their rapid response teams. Considerably. They won't scramble, but if you hang around expect to get hurt. Skills Explained
JafoPBCFR	Posted - 2008.05.25 19:57:00 - [13] Originally by: IonKnight Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 19:45:50 Edited by: IonKnight on 25/05/2008 19:44:43 Bah only thing that gets on my nerves is that either everyone will join caldari (cause noone likes getting shot when they are in jita). Can someone please confirm if this is correct as otherwise it will mean i just wont be with FW. ALso this guy is kinda right but has got the wrong end of the stick it wont be that the defender force or whatever will be harder as gates wil be guarded. What will actually happen is FW will end before its starts simply because its in Low Sec and Guess what in Low sec. Pretty much every pirate atm is dancing and clapping there hands why u say ? Well gee let me think. Well lets see whats going to happen when a noob goes to low sec, oh he dies. What happens to quite a few noobs going into low sec, oh lots of dead noobs. Simply put i cant see this working at all as all pirates will be doing all day is killing ppl trying to do FW. However hey im not going to complain just means more PVP for us. one thing i thought of make One area that all factions can goto. ALA JITA. And make it a DMZ.
IonKnight	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:07:00 - [14] Yea wont be the end of jita as alot more ppl want jita than they do FW. Simply put FW epic fair, yea maybe a couple of ppl might play. However cause they have set than no alliance can join a militia it pretty much means FW will be for noobs only therefore lots of noobs in low sec getting own by pvp pilots. Yea to be honest thats the only outcome simply it ended before it started. Without the support of more experienced players and alliances it will just mean that pirate corps will reign supreme
Soporo	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:08:00 - [15] Quote: Pretty much every pirate atm is dancing and clapping there hands why u say ? Well gee let me think... Because the FW peeps who do content are limited to frigs and cruisers and the local pirates who will be sitting the gates/stations and scanning out the FW content entrances are not, right? Oh, but get some friends and take the gate you say? Lawlz, might as well go to 0.0 for much better rewards and much less risk. But hey, maybe I am wrong and it will be a smashing success.
Apoctasy The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:42:00 - [16] Just as I thought. I figured almost every entrance to the FW battlegrounds would be gatecamped to **** by players that have at least some knowledge of PVP This will go on until everyone is tired of dying before even entering the fighting grounds and people will simply go back to regular Eve.
Sidewayzracer Murder Training Facilites	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:30:00 - [17] Originally by: Soporo Quote: Pretty much every pirate atm is dancing and clapping there hands why u say ? Well gee let me think... Because the FW peeps who do content are limited to frigs and cruisers and the local pirates who will be sitting the gates/stations and scanning out the FW content entrances are not, right? Oh, but get some friends and take the gate you say? Lawlz, might as well go to 0.0 for much better rewards and much less risk. But hey, maybe I am wrong and it will be a smashing success. If you want rewards for playing nice eve isnt for you and gtfo. EVE rewards people for being ruthless.
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:35:00 - [18] Originally by: JafoPBCFR one thing i thought of make One area that all factions can goto. ALA JITA. And make it a DMZ. And you could call it Yulai
Soporo	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:45:00 - [19] Edited by: Soporo on 25/05/2008 21:46:08 Originally by: Sidewayzracer Originally by: Soporo Quote: Pretty much every pirate atm is dancing and clapping there hands why u say ? Well gee let me think... Because the FW peeps who do content are limited to frigs and cruisers and the local pirates who will be sitting the gates/stations and scanning out the FW content entrances are not, right? Oh, but get some friends and take the gate you say? Lawlz, might as well go to 0.0 for much better rewards and much less risk. But hey, maybe I am wrong and it will be a smashing success. If you want rewards for playing nice eve isnt for you and gtfo. EVE rewards people for being ruthless. Eve rewards people for not being stupid. Like...you know... engaging in a massive Isk and time sink in inferior ships in a pirate infested area for minimal rewards. Oh and fu and gtfo yourself, btw. Cheers.
Jakke Logan F Off And Die	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:49:00 - [20] Edited by: Jakke Logan on 25/05/2008 21:50:00 This expansion is total BS. I'm glad that they don't charge us for it because I wouldn't buy it if they did. In fact, over this expansion, I wish CCP WOULD start charging for expansions so I can choose not to fund junk like empyrian age. This pvp system is destined for fail. You want noobs to go 15 jumps into lowsec to essentially run a mission? You want them to do it in PVE fitted ships? You want to force them into cruisers and frigates, whilst gankers can fly whatever they want? This isn't going to work. I went in there and tried it for a couple hours. It's NOT fun. The rewards suck, and I won't even be able to play it anyway since I am in an alliance. Ambulation would have made a better expansion than this. At least that would have had something for everyone.
Mithfindel Argent Group	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Apoctasy Just as I thought. I figured almost every entrance to the FW battlegrounds would be gatecamped to **** by players that have at least some knowledge of PVP This will go on until everyone is tired of dying before even entering the fighting grounds and people will simply go back to regular Eve. If it's designed well, gatecamping a few regions might not work that easily. Specially if the FWers are based inside the region, so plain old fashioned camping the 0.4 doesn't work.
Jakke Logan F Off And Die	Posted - 2008.05.25 21:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Mithfindel Originally by: Apoctasy Just as I thought. I figured almost every entrance to the FW battlegrounds would be gatecamped to **** by players that have at least some knowledge of PVP This will go on until everyone is tired of dying before even entering the fighting grounds and people will simply go back to regular Eve. If it's designed well, gatecamping a few regions might not work that easily. Specially if the FWers are based inside the region, so plain old fashioned camping the 0.4 doesn't work. As long as the point you are sent to for missions are static and known there will be camps. Consider too that the mission runner suffers penalties for dropping a mission once he finds he can't get past a camp. This whole thing is pointless, as soon as the pirates gank everyone who tries this it will quit being used.
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Jakke Logan As long as the point you are sent to for missions are static and known there will be camps. Consider too that the mission runner suffers penalties for dropping a mission once he finds he can't get past a camp. This whole thing is pointless, as soon as the pirates gank everyone who tries this it will quit being used. I had the impression FW wasn't mission running. But OK. Anyway, don't be daft. If you do it in frigs, then, well, frigs get by 99% of pirate camps really. Saying that 'noobs' will be the only ones doing FW, well, get 20 noobs in T1 crusiers and they will kill your average pirate 5-man gang. At any rate, you're all talking like pirates are one homogenous entity. Pirates mostly fight other pirates. For fun, loot and territory. You also get anti-pirate blobs now and then and so on. If complexes are size-restricted (and type-restricted), they're size-restricted for everyone. Hey, I might crash a frig-limited complex with 3-4 mates in frigs for fun, but it's not like we're actually undefeatable or something Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.25 22:58:00 - [24] Edited by: Hannobaal on 25/05/2008 22:59:15 My experience of this on the test server has been entirely positive. I get the impression that the people being negative about this are the kind of people who simply disapprove of Eve PVP combat in general and had thought that this would be some kind of instanced WoW style combat without consequences. Well, for your own best, you should probably find a different game that suits your gaming needs better. This really seems to have the potential of giving us an abundance of fun small to medium scale fighting and skirmishing all over low sec. Fun times are ahead....
Apoctasy The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 25/05/2008 22:59:15 My experience of this on the test server has been entirely positive. I get the impression that the people being negative about this are the kind of people who simply disapprove of Eve PVP combat in general Keep in mind this is not real pvp. If its instanced and set up for you, it is not pvp. Half the fight is actually hunting your target down.
Cailais VITOC	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:05:00 - [26] Hmm. Im not sure what server the OP or Jakke Logan were on when the extensively (cough) tested FW but it wasnt SISI and there are inumerable mistakes in their assumptions. Just in case anyone believes these far fetched tales my experience was: 1. No gate camps. Zero, I didnt come across one. Im sure there will be gate camps, sometimes theyll be friendly to you, sometimes theyll be hostile - thats EVE. 2. Faction Navy ships do not warp scramble. Or if they do, they must be pretty slow about it as I was happily able to fly around hostile space in my cruiser with no real issues apart from a few scratches to my shields. 3. No, not everyone can enter a ship restricted 'plex regardless. There are gates and they prevent you from warping in. You could* fly from the gate to certain site - should take you about 15mins; I think even the dimmest player would probably see you coming a mile off. So in summary the sooner the OP quits trolling and joins AoC the better EVE will be. C. VITOC - Amarr Corp for Faction Warfare!
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:05:00 - [27] Originally by: Apoctasy Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 25/05/2008 22:59:15 My experience of this on the test server has been entirely positive. I get the impression that the people being negative about this are the kind of people who simply disapprove of Eve PVP combat in general Keep in mind this is not real pvp. If its instanced and set up for you, it is not pvp. Half the fight is actually hunting your target down. It is neither instanced nor set up for you.
Cailais VITOC	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Apoctasy Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 25/05/2008 22:59:15 My experience of this on the test server has been entirely positive. I get the impression that the people being negative about this are the kind of people who simply disapprove of Eve PVP combat in general Keep in mind this is not real pvp. If its instanced and set up for you, it is not pvp. Half the fight is actually hunting your target down. /me yawns. It is not an instance. There are no instances. A faction facility is really no different to an asteroid belt in that respect. You do hunt people down in belts right? Claiming FW is not 'real pvp' is frankly rubbish. C. VITOC - Amarr Corp for Faction Warfare!
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:31:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Casqade Quote: Those plex places are stupid too: you cannot enter with almost any ship, but defender can have anything they wish. This is incorrect. Ah, good, it wouldn't make any sense if this was true.
Rawr Cristina Naqam Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.25 23:41:00 - [30] how about you wait for it to come onto TQ before whining about that sort of thing. It looks to be great fun IMO. My only concern is that there's going to be 2x more Caldari than anyone else. ...

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