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Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2008.05.26 02:21:00 - [31] Originally by: IonKnight Yea wont be the end of jita as alot more ppl want jita than they do FW. Simply put FW epic fair, yea maybe a couple of ppl might play. lol Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
JamnOne	Posted - 2008.05.26 04:41:00 - [32] The only problem I saw was, they gave me 30 mins to do 11 jumps into Minmatar Space to take out some frigs, cruisers, and 5 BS to get the bonus from the mission. Other than that, it was actually quite fun knowing I was going through 11 different Minmatar Controlled areas and hoping I didn't get jumped. Joined for a little bit one of the battles but got lagged out even after the patch. My system is way to old for that kind of battle, but it was still fun. ________________________ Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, it's all my fault. Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
Ivan Kinsikor Void Engineers	Posted - 2008.05.26 04:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Rawr Cristina how about you wait for it to come onto TQ before whining about that sort of thing. It looks to be great fun IMO. My only concern is that there's going to be 2x more Caldari than anyone else. Thankfully strip miners can't be used as weapons so I doubt it will be that big of a problem ---------------------------------------- *****es don't know 'bout my nano'd Titan ----------------------------------------
DFox31	Posted - 2008.05.26 05:37:00 - [34] My impression? I don't have one. Loaded up sisi > went into the moveme channel and spent quite awhile there trying to be moved to FD- (For some reason I remember reading a player post about something with FW in FD-) Partly my fault but w/e. I autopiloted to gallente space (came from 0.0) podded myself to caldari space and then remembered I had to wait 24 hours since they decided not to remove that from the test server. So that timer ended a couple hours ago so I went to join the NPC militia, ends up I only have 0.07 standing with caldari and I need 0.5, so now I have to grind missions on a test server to actually test? :/
Venkul Mul	Posted - 2008.05.26 05:49:00 - [35] Originally by: CCP Casqade Quote: Those plex places are stupid too: you cannot enter with almost any ship, but defender can have anything they wish. This is incorrect. I suppose he mean: you can brig any kind of ship at the acceleration gate and lay in ambush. Then there is some guy that reach the deadspace area using MDW from there, but MDWing for 10K km require a special mindset.
Rawr Cristina Naqam Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.26 06:42:00 - [36] Originally by: DFox31 So that timer ended a couple hours ago so I went to join the NPC militia, ends up I only have 0.07 standing with caldari and I need 0.5, so now I have to grind missions on a test server to actually test? :/ go to FD-, some of the devs set up FW corps that don't require standings. (FWCaldari, FWGallente, etc) ...
Sunwillow Auryn	Posted - 2008.05.26 08:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Cpt Branko Saying that 'noobs' will be the only ones doing FW, well, get 20 noobs in T1 crusiers and they will kill your average pirate 5-man gang. Yes, because every noob has 20 friends to come help :) Unless of course the FW interface allows you to easily link up with other FW pilots for 'on the fly' gang creation.
Furb Killer The Peacekeeper Core	Posted - 2008.05.26 08:48:00 - [38] Well there are 2 possibilities, you joined FW with entire corp so you probably fight with corp. Or you joined it alone, when you basicly join a corp, so you can just ask if someone else comes with you.
J'Mkarr Soban Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2008.05.26 08:59:00 - [39] Originally by: JafoPBCFR one thing i thought of make One area that all factions can goto. ALA JITA. And make it a DMZ. Goodness no. That's one of the side-benefits of FW - the population in Jita will ease. -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.26 09:05:00 - [40] Originally by: Sunwillow Auryn Originally by: Cpt Branko Saying that 'noobs' will be the only ones doing FW, well, get 20 noobs in T1 crusiers and they will kill your average pirate 5-man gang. Yes, because every noob has 20 friends to come help :) Unless of course the FW interface allows you to easily link up with other FW pilots for 'on the fly' gang creation. There is a chat channel called 'Militia' which both the people who joined the npc militia corp for their faction as individuals and the people who joined that same faction as a corp are in. It works kind of like alliance chat does now for people in alliances, allowing all the people in the corporations in that alliance to talk to each other. With the militia channel people will be able to (within their faction) share intel, announce gangs forming up, ask if there any gangs around and where, x up to join gangs and so on... Besides, I really doubt very many, if any, particularly newbish people will be particpating in this to begin with, and those that do will probably be very annoying (in a newbie charm kind of way ) at first because they won't know all the basic things about how to function in a fleet in Eve that many of us take for granted.
Garia666 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.05.26 09:09:00 - [41] just for the record if i dont join any faction everything will stay the same right? www.garia.net
Nandato	Posted - 2008.05.26 09:47:00 - [42] Edited by: Nandato on 26/05/2008 09:47:15 My noob impression... I am a full skilled mining director(foreman, director, gang warfare mods and so on). I only play eve to give mining bonuses and I don't really want to be involved in any combat except those that occur in my mission(in which i am mostly sure that i won't die). For that reason, when you talk about noobs i think you are talking about guyz like me. Even if you say that these new missions are for us, i don't think that we play them because (after having tryied on SISI) : 1- I don't see the interest of losing ship for nothing (or just to say wouuuuah my militia is the best one... no comment). I can sacrify my ship to defend my corp territory if it is needed but not for non material reason. 2- The lack of communication and the bad organisation on SISI bored me. I had to wait more than half an hour before having an inty. I wonder how long will it take on real server where the ship are more expensive (the people will bemore precautious and will take their time give an information --> yes a noob don't want to lose his ship, trust me :)).... 3- This 3rd point is a summary of the 2 previous, what would be the reasons that will make me doing these mission? I won't do, if i want to learn PvP, I think I won't do with other noob, but with experiented figther of my corp in real combat such as POS defense or else. These points were just my feeling.
Sarah Tuttle Plato Academy	Posted - 2008.05.26 10:48:00 - [43] I disagree with the OP. The faction NPCs provide plenty of opportunity for tags and reflect the kinds of deployments that would take place by the powers that be in a time of war. Also, there is nothing wrong with content that encourages grouping. The whole idea of a MMOG is to work together (or against) with other players. Sarah Tuttle My Eve Site
Luh Windan Republic University	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Nandato I only play eve to give mining bonuses and I don't really want to be involved in any combat except those that occur in my mission(in which i am mostly sure that i won't die). Far be it from me to flame you - I'll let all the carebear haters do that. But - this is just a game - why not go out there and live a little - risk a few internet space ships. It can be quite exciting you know.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:35:00 - [45] I think FW will be FW and people who like FW will do FW. Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Luh Windan Republic University	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Hannobaal Besides, I really doubt very many, if any, particularly newbish people will be particpating in this to begin with, and those that do will probably be very annoying (in a newbie charm kind of way ) at first because they won't know all the basic things about how to function in a fleet in Eve that many of us take for granted. I love this implication that everyone in empire is a clueless idiot. You might find that you lot in 0.0 are not the only people who can learn stuff. You may also find that there are people taking part in FW that know things and are happy to share that knowledge.
Carniflex Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:53:00 - [47] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: JafoPBCFR one thing i thought of make One area that all factions can goto. ALA JITA. And make it a DMZ. Goodness no. That's one of the side-benefits of FW - the population in Jita will ease. It's almost as good statement as claiming, that having -10 sec rating will actually make outlaw unable to get his equipment from jita. Rare would be the pilot who would not use hauling/trading alt for Jita. Or would join up all his characters instead of only his pvp char. Overall, sounds good so far. Will see if rewards will be good enough to lure me also in.
TylerJames Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.05.26 11:54:00 - [48] Originally by: Nandato Edited by: Nandato on 26/05/2008 09:47:15 --> yes a noob don't want to lose his ship, trust me :)).... This gave me a great idea. The tutorial should have a section where the new player loses his ship, say 20 times in a row, just to get used to it. You know....sink or swim. If nothing else it would be a funny joke to play..."wtf I am 25mil in the hole before I start playing?!?!?"
Kerfira University of Caille	Posted - 2008.05.26 12:05:00 - [49] Originally by: IonKnight Bah only thing that gets on my nerves is that either everyone will join caldari (cause noone likes getting shot when they are in jita). Well, here's your chance to earn some cash by playing the regional markets then.... This might even help a bit in discouraging people from using Jita all the time.... See opportunities, not problems... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Nandato	Posted - 2008.05.26 12:10:00 - [50] Edited by: Nandato on 26/05/2008 12:11:53 Originally by: Luh Windan Originally by: Nandato I only play eve to give mining bonuses and I don't really want to be involved in any combat except those that occur in my mission(in which i am mostly sure that i won't die). Far be it from me to flame you - I'll let all the carebear haters do that. But - this is just a game - why not go out there and live a little - risk a few internet space ships. It can be quite exciting you know. I tryied PvP few month ago, I had approx 500 mil Isk(hardly won in my missions during 2years) when i rejoigned an alliance in 0.0. Then I lost all my ship, and all my money... all that to try the exciting side of the game you are talking about. 1 month to lose all the things i had won in 2 years .... not so cool Each player have his preference, for my part, I like spend 1 hour or so a day to do mission or help a friend in his short mining time. It is just a game as you said, that's why i don't play so much, but even if it is a game i don't really like losing stuff for nothing
Luh Windan Republic University	Posted - 2008.05.26 12:13:00 - [51] Originally by: Nandato I tryied PvP few month ago, I had approx 500 mil Isk(hardly won in my missions during 2years) when i rejoigned an alliance in 0.0. Then I lost all my ship, and all my money... all that to try the exciting side of the game you are talking about. 1 month to lose all the things i had won in 2 years .... not so cool oh well clearly not for you then. Fair enough.
FenikSar Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.26 12:59:00 - [52] Updated client. Logged in. Waited in move me for 45mins Logged off. I Cant Read And I Cant Write But I Can Fly An Apoc. For Live Ingame Price Checks. Visit the ingame channel price_check.
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:05:00 - [53] Originally by: Luh Windan Originally by: Hannobaal Besides, I really doubt very many, if any, particularly newbish people will be particpating in this to begin with, and those that do will probably be very annoying (in a newbie charm kind of way ) at first because they won't know all the basic things about how to function in a fleet in Eve that many of us take for granted. I love this implication that everyone in empire is a clueless idiot. Not saying I that don't believe that most high-sec only people are extremely clueless about pvp combat in this game in all its forms, but how did you find that opinion to be in any way implied in the post you quoted? WTS, basic reading comprehension.
Roguehalo RH Ship Brokers	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:11:00 - [54] Hmmm.......presumably the pirates won't be ganking their OWN side?
Mahn AlNouhm The Bastards	Posted - 2008.05.26 13:54:00 - [55] At some point, people will realize that part of FW is actually fighting through not only the enemy militias, but the pirate gangs that inhabit low sec, too. Rest assured, my corp and I are licking our chops. Salivating, as it were. All you who make your way to placid for some FW love, consider yourselves threatened ;). Oh, and how ridiculous is it for people to cry because they got blown up in pvp, on their way to conduct pvp? Grow a freakin pair. The idea of FW is not running missions, it's blowing up other players. . . .
Rakshasa Taisab Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:04:00 - [56] Originally by: Nandato I tryied PvP few month ago, I had approx 500 mil Isk(hardly won in my missions during 2years) when i rejoigned an alliance in 0.0. Then I lost all my ship, and all my money... all that to try the exciting side of the game you are talking about. 1 month to lose all the things i had won in 2 years .... not so cool Well, even the most clueless person would start to figure things out after losing 10 ships every day for a month... (Unless you did PVP in your CNR or something) --- Author of rTorrent, the BitTorrent client for real men and mice.
Esmenet	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:07:00 - [57] Originally by: Carniflex Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: JafoPBCFR one thing i thought of make One area that all factions can goto. ALA JITA. And make it a DMZ. Goodness no. That's one of the side-benefits of FW - the population in Jita will ease. It's almost as good statement as claiming, that having -10 sec rating will actually make outlaw unable to get his equipment from jita. Rare would be the pilot who would not use hauling/trading alt for Jita. Or would join up all his characters instead of only his pvp char. Overall, sounds good so far. Will see if rewards will be good enough to lure me also in. Sure it would still be many that find ways to go to jita. But it will encourage more people to shop elsewhere than jita. And even if its just a few people at first, it will reduce the dominance of jita.
Dravius Luxor Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:09:00 - [58] Faction warfare is an essential part of Eve, that has been missing from day one. It's one of the reasons I signed up - I assumed it would already be standard gameplay. When I discovered it hadn't been done yet, I simply set about preparing for it. There's a lot of whining in this thread, and I hope CCP ignores it. You see, it may be risky, and on occasions an attack into enemy space may be a fool's errand, *but I will not let those stinking Amarr take one slice of Minmatar space, even if I have to lose 100 ships a day!!!* And because there are people like me, Faction Warfare is already a success. Some people won't like it, so let them keep their Caldari navy missions...
Vibora BR	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:34:00 - [59] I am newbie too and don't like to lose my stuff for noting, to be honest nobody likes! FW is lacking reward and this will be the big issue to people joins FW.
Luh Windan Republic University	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Vibora BR I am newbie too and don't like to lose my stuff for noting, to be honest nobody likes! FW is lacking reward and this will be the big issue to people joins FW. There are two kinds of player. Ones for whom 'stuff' is a resource for them to have fun with (sometimes for profit - ganking haulers etc. sometimes not ). The other kind of player seems to see 'stuff' an end in itself. FW is not going to be that much fun for those kind of people - because lets face it there is going to be lots of blowing up and being blown up.

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