Really nice work - thanks!

(hasn't the Show Market Details button always been there :o )

could we get the date back on our clocks?

"Right click menu has been added to the image in the "Selected Item" window"

Thank you! I don't know how many times I've tried right clicking that stupid icon just because I should be able to do that. +Beer.

Will we also be able to drag reactions and other BPO-like items into the quick bar to list their mats?

I love that Avatar for 50b ISK and 500 ISK and everything else in this dev blog and everyone in this blog is also amazing

Also proof that you guys keep forgetting to direct the "comments" link on your Devblogs to the proper forum thread.

Can I combine blueprint folders without duplication? That way I can have one folder for my entire weekly buy list.

I love you <3

Excellent work gentlemen, keep at it!.

+1 for this. This would be very helpful.

I agree too w this.

One question about the blueprint drag feature: it's a nice idea, but how would ppl know that they can drag the blueprints there?

Awesome. Keep up the good work.

Will you add show in contract feature also to folders created from ship-fittings?.

Why not send a RequestorID along with your market list request, the server can flag the matching orders in it's client return.

Is there a ID tag for each market order? If so, could you cross reference the ID tags under "My Orders" with those in the list you are viewing in the market client side instead of going back to the server?

Probably doesn't work this way, but I figured every market order would probably have a unique ID for sanity.

You mean I have to retrain all the racial battlecruisers now!!!

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Just kidding.

Love the changes and papercut projects.

Sorting the asset page by the amount of stuff in any given station seems like a particularly bad idea to me. The whole idea of sorting is to present (obviously ordered) but consistent and predictable information that a person can effectively navigate. With this new method the presentation will be changing over time and not presented in any meaningful way to the human mind...I'd guess this will result in a lot more searches in the asset windows.

I know I'm late to the party, but it's fashionable.

One nark I currently have with the UI is linking 'show info' items to chats.

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Beer at the next fanfest I attend for adding

Nice blog, nice work. Thank you. Now on behalf of sticklers everywhere, will you please allow the Eve Mail system to display the Apostrophe correctly!

He must be talking about how if you author an evemail in evegate the apostrophes don't come through to recipients as apostrophes but the html encoded equivalent.

could we get the date back on our clocks?

However, there was a new change that took place in Crucible. Aside from the awesome feature of seeing when our POS's run out of fuel, and the sexy new Neo-Com, something awful happened....we lost the date in the bottom left corner!!!! But wait...the time is still there....But in order to see the date, I have to open up the Calender!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we please have the option of showing the EVE date AND the time? I know you guys didn't think it was useful, but for some of us who live in other timezones it was quite handy.

I love the UI changes, but I too would like the date back. I read the post why it was removed and it doesn't make sense. Date is relevant given how many of us play outside of the timezone EVE is based in.

CCP karkur nice work don't know why you waited 4 and a helf years to do a blog

This proves that good things can come in small packages.

OMG.

I've been playing this since 2007 and having to deal with one window at a time......

@CCP Karkur is there a chance we can get the market to open the default sub category for an item when viewing market details for it?

For example right clicking "view market details" on a warp disruptor II should navigate you to the "warp jammers" sub column when opening the market.

OMG.

I've been playing this since 2007 and having to deal with one window at a time......

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66839&find=unread

now for shameless self promotion of a feature request

"the horrible ingame calculator"? CCP karkur is not going to like you for that...

I support the changes, the skill changes are not really necessary, but I understand that soon some players will run out of skills they can skill and that CCP needs to tacke this issue.

One question remains though, what will be the role of the supercaps? Right now they are like a combination of artillery and cavallery.

Awesome!

Though here are some thought:
- Rclick menus. Why do we have different options everywhere? Why not unify them? like try to send an evemail to a ceo/founder of a corp. When you are rclicking on the toon in the corp attributes you have no option to send him anything, that's a reduced menu. When you click showinfo and use the context menu on the upperleft corner, you can send him the mail, whatever. Why not having the complete menu when rclicking the toon on the attributes?
- Rclicks. Why can't i have the "find in contracts" on an item in the market quickbar? Why do i have to drag it to the chat channel, just to have that option?
- Why doesn't the GUI remembers my slot selection preferences? Like using a "same region" selector for a blueprint task, it always defaults to the "blueprint location" even when that's impossible to do, because the station doesn't have the lines, why the POS next to it, has.

- I just fixed the "blueprint location" thing, should be out on Tuesday

Another example of this is the watchlist/fleet window - when I want to invite a fleet member to a conversation, I can't do it from either of these windows. I have to go to the fleet chat window, and search for them by name, then invite.

PS! Happy International Women's Day to all the women at CCP

Magic Crisp, your reference numbers are D# 54443 / CL 345126 / 2012.02.27. Keep them safe!

Oops, I lied a little bit. I was fixing this the other day, but it's not going out on Tuesday, sorry

Edit: Oops, I lied about lying... it is going out on Tuesday

PS - One other thing. I notice while I'm in wmhole space that after every update, the NPCs are no longer on my overview. This has happened with each patch over the past few months. Where should I report this? I do have filters and different tabs in place, so I figured this may be the reason.

And when comes the Shortcut for the Fitting Management?

This seems to be the only thing. I have to manually add all sleepers, whether frig, cruiser or tower.

On another note, it also seems to display certain things it shouldn't. On my "battle" overview, I have it set to only show people with neutral or negative standing, but last night I noticed that one of my corp mates was showing up in overview while the others were not. My other corp mates are mentioning some issues with the overview as well, but we haven't said anything at a length more than "Oh, mine is actin' weird, too. Would you focus fire, please?! kthx"

I'll make sure to keep some notes and then submit. Thank you for asking. =)

How about just letting us add all those NPCs the usual way with the overview settings!!

Great work on the improvements. They look great.

But with regards to right-click menus... Would this be possible to implement without too much coding? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=762950#post762950

As someone who have (too) many chat chennels open, having the ability to get a channel MOTD posted again (without having to get a channel operator to post it again, having it displayed for everyone regardless of wether they want to see it or not) and the ability to clear the chatter in a channel (especialy Local, after leaving Jita/Amarr/Rens/Dodixie) would be much appreciated :)

Keep up the good work. Many little things makes for a lot of improvements


PS! Happy International Women's Day to all the women at CCP

Do Team Avatar have any input on the In-game Browser?

If you do, is it possible to open your bookmarks in a new browser tab?

Shift or Ctrl left clicking on the browser bookmarks doesn't do anything, nor does right clicking as it appears to function the same as left click.

Could right-click on a browser bookmark open up a context menu at all? Maybe containing "Open in current tab", "Open in new tab" and "remove"?

I might send you cookies if you can do that :D

CCP Karkur, could You satisfy our curiosity about this post?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=909039#post909039

I know you told earlier its not so easy, but we would like to know how it compare to the other idea than sending tones of queries each time.

After i look into my API i realized one more thing... all I wrote is 'probably' coz I dont know exactly how the mechanism works on the server.

When client ask for market, server know who is asking for it.
Also when orders are taken from DB, for sure you know who created each order.
So putting the flag: 1 - your order, 0 - not your order, when sending back to client shouldn't be resource expensive.
Assuming - you don't have to send player ids (you said you don't want to do that);


So after this 2 ideas:
- adding flag your/not your to returned market list
- cashing orders ids once (if not cashed) during first market query or when opening wallet>orders and modifying that list when changing market orders only in the client.


I would really, really appreciate the answer for our speculations and ideas. Best wishes :]

Well, I have to believe that you will remember about that ^^"

QFE.

Winter is Coming

How come I can't click on the news items that scroll across the top of the CQ screen to open them in the IGB anymore? This used to work, and I don't really know when it stopped working, but I'd like to see it come back!

^^ This. Patience is a virtue, but I'm a little excited about this.

On a more realistic side, I'll bet it will not happen overnight as everyone is busy, buuuuuuut... did you at least tell them? Mebbe? Pls?

Why don't you want us to know who is posting what order? I already know the name of the toon who buys something from me. I would love to see both the name and standing of every order posted. The ability to market PVP would be awesome, undercut someone just because they are red. Buy something from a blue even if it cost a bit more. see what my enemy's are buying. Use market alts just like neutral scouts. I think this is right up EVE's ally. See if the same guy who undercuts me ever 5min plays 23 hours a day, hit report bot button.

I guess i just don't understand, we are already playing this meta game in the markets with POCO's and the upcoming DUST. Lets take it one more step forward!

Anyway, thanks for the hard work on the UI!

They don't agree for sending order owner or they don't agree to highlight own market orders?
Could you plz clear that?

If they don't agree for sending owners i can understand why, here i can see many reasons to not agree about that.

But if they don't agree to highlight own market orders - i don't understand, coz we all know what order is our own. Highlight would be only help, so the search in tones of orders is not so hard and time consuming.
And like many of us think - this probably shouldn't lead to server load and sending order owners ids.

Oh! BTW! Now we must copy the player name from transaction row and search for it manually. Would be cool to add option 'show player info' under submenu when you click transaction in wallet->transactions.

>> Also could you tell us how about fixing the wallet->orders window so doubleclick or shortcut+doubleclick the order will open the fix-price window instead of item info window (which is useless there)?

I have a feeling that soon double clicking an order will not open the "show info" window

The "dragging blueprints into quickbar" feature is almost totally awesome.
It would be uber totally awesome if you would allow shift dragging BPOs from the search tab over, so you dont have to have the actual bpo in your pocket you are looking to buy parts for.
Otherwise the feature is only nice, but not usefull for me sadly, as my shopping is done by a different character then the one who puts the stuff together and just buying the bpo twice might be usefull to the economy, but not to my personal wallet

Dragging the BPOs from search into chat is already working nicely, so hopefully that extra shift drag is peanuts for you to do! :-)

Keep up to good UI changes, they are truely awesome!

Hmm... yes.... feels mystery...
Actually after you write that i wasn't happy because it can mean, that marketers will not have easier life then they has now.
Nothing comes to mind what could appear after clicking market order - if not modify order and info window, than what that could be useful?

Will that make marketers life easier?

Well, it's certainly meant to make marketers life easier, and a few of you have been asking for it (hint: it has something to do with details)

I don't want to say too much because this *might* have been ninjaed in yesterday and my boss *might* be reading this thread

I also have a ticker on the source code version control system.

(BTW, you need to contact the EPB to get this ported.)

We don't mind that :p Im sure your boss will not find out :D

Begun the version control wars have.

Despite being a coder/designer myself I have to say that my heart bleeds for the QA's having to deal with the coder ninja wars ;)

...so how about it?

I got the same at 90% windows mode. Same for you?

I just want to state that I consulted not only 1 QA dude but 2 before I made the change
(my other changes were just defect fixes... I think)

No timer boo.

Also the map controler is not showing in system mode if you access it from the scanner map button. Cannot un flatten

This is why "hiding" ninja stuff in defect fixes is the only way to roll

yes
Bug report in
just submitted
Going to relog see you in game if you want real time feed back
Relog did not clear

First rule of ninja is to not reveal the code of the ninja! Don't tell CCP karkur about this.

One thing I noticed, which is really missing in my opinion is the ease of going further from an info window of an item

I'd like to link it in chat. How can I do that? My intuition told me to drag the big icon to the chat, but that didn't work.

Any ideas if this is alreay in the client?

Hey \o/ I'm over here!

Turns out there were other programmers ninja-ing stuff in for the release next week as well, with CCP karkur being the most prolific one followed by CCP Aporia. I better start figuring out how this can be deployed in the release...

a lot of stuff about fleets

I just red the patch notes!



You have no idea how I'm thankful for this.

But I would also like to get back to one thing we was talking about earlier and one thing that is in added as a bugreport some time ago.


Can this wish come true? I believe your sticky note with that is still on your screen :]


I wrote about that few times. My request on that on bugreports was timed-out.
Please look on that and feel my pain:
Photo 1
Photo 2
Could u plz plz plz include camera offset for character recustomization in the same way as for ships in space?

Hope you're still watching this topic CCP avatar team :)

Thank you all for your feedback There is a lot of good suggestions in this thread, and I'll probably implement some of them soon(ish).. please understand that we can of course not implement everything you suggest here, there is just not enough time and some of the suggestions would require a lot of work... but I still want to thank you for throwing the ideas out there, I think it's awesome how much you care about EVE

And you know what? When everyone is so positive and nice, it really motivates me, and I just want to change a lot of stuff for you guys... so keep up the positive attitude, life is just so much better when everyone is -ing

Well, this is because of you. You converse with us and if someone ask for something there is almost 100% chance that you will answer for it, not just leave because in your opinion it's not worth answering.
Seriously, would like to see more devs being half communicative as you are. If you don't believe me just read some devblogs comments topics.

Again big bravos for you for very good work and your interest in the matter!

Sorry but i missed an real detailed Eye on CCP Karkur fixing things...

Or why is the Market in a way screwed up, that i want to lynch someone...

See here: Fail Market Categories Sorting

I filed a Bug report bug get during Sending the Bug report the following Error: Fail Bugreport Sending

I'm using on my WinXP the German Localization, Eve is running with English Localization. The new Launcher was automatically set to German Localization.

OK, thats good, searching things new again and again is confusing me

OK, tell me via in game mail if an fix is launched, so i can retest it.

So CCP karkur, what did the server guys say about color coding your own market orders? You still have the post it note ?

Issue is fixed. Sorting work now as intended.

Thx for the Fast fix.

Still have the post-it note... I'm going to take a better look at the system to verify that things are set up the way we think they are, and then talk to them again (I do have other stuff I am working on, so I am not sure when I can do that though)

Wow, okay, I can't provide an example because the system won't allow HTML. Joy.

Anyhow! This is easily reproducible. I've noticed that when mails are sent from EVE Gate and opened in game, certain special characters (such as the apostrophe, or ') are replaced by their HTML counterparts. While it's pretty easy to parse the message as it was intended, it is also quite annoying. Could something maybe be done about this?

Feedback from Fanfest UI Roundtable. You asked for it, you're getting some

NB: I was the person who asked the very first question at the roundtable, regarding usability issues in the UI for the colorblind

I mentioned that the change to the color scheme for routes in 'set destination' was a help, though I still can't quite distinguish the 0.5 to low sec border by color. There I hover over to see if there are any lowsec systems. Someone else mentioned the possibility of using pattern or shapes to distinguish rather than color, and perhaps that could be used in the route. Something like vertical lines for high sec, diagonal lines for lowsec, horizontal lines for nullsec. For many years scientific journals would not allow the use of color in graphs because they didn't want the additional cost of color printing the journals. They used patterns like that for bar graphs and occasional pie chart

Corp member vs. war target in local listing: My colorblindness is of the red/green variety, and I really can't readily tell the difference between the symbols for a corp member vs. a war target in the local listing, because the only difference is that one is green, the other is red. I might not immediately recognize a new corp member's name, and ironically, I can shoot both a war target and a fellow corp member in high sec without invoking CONCORD. If the symbol for a war target were something other than a star, it would really help

Something that has nothing to do with color: If I am zoomed out in terms of what is being displayed in space, and I move my mouse pointer from somewhere on the lower left, like for a chat window or the module interface, to the right side, where I typically have my overview, it can pass over a section of the screen where there are many objects stacked in roughly the same spot. The exploded listing of those items pops up, and stays there, sometimes spanning from the top of the screen to the bottom, and occluding other, more important information. I have to click somewhere to get rid of it. How about if the exploded listing was only there while the mouse pointer was over the spot where the stacked items were located? That way I am indicating what I want to see, for as long as I want to see it

Thank

P.S. I would love to see that video one more time, at least played a little more slowly so that I could see all

Another thing:

I seem to remember back in the old days an Aggro timer being in the top left of the screen (much like the session change timer is now) which would show you how long you had to wait to dock or jump after performing some sort of hostile action. I can't, for the life of me, find an option in the escape menu to get it back, and it's really annoying to not know this figure without keeping meticulous track of the time outside of the game.

So... either could someone point out to me where to turn on such a feature, or could something be devised that works like the current session change timer (IE a little circle, perhaps in red, counting down the time to interface with a station or gate)?

CCP UI ladies please show me on the market page what my buy and sell orders are. Some icon or something.

Alsobookmarked items in my quickbar, but then I can't tell which price was mine, and I have to search that order on the MY ORDERS page to edit it (where I can't see the market prices).
, please let me edit from the market page. I have a character with the ability to have over 200 outstanding orders, in 6 regions, and it really sucks for trying to use the MY ORDERS page to sort or figure them out. Much easier for me to hit
We MUST be able to see relative regional market prices when we do a price edit.

And again, we must be able to see if we have outstanding buy or sell orders in the current region from the item page in the market view.

The current system is very clumsy.

Thanks for listening.

check the link a few replies above Phiad, we will get a "buff bar" like every other MMO out there has these days in the next patch. It is already on Sissy. Although I wonder how they will implement an easy way to see which debuff comes from where.

Thank God the Devs are finally addressing this kind of crap. A few more changes like this and I'll probably start encouraging my RL friends to give EVE a try. Keep up the good work!

CCP karkur is writing a devblog with a lot of goodies; she's actually writing more than one devblog

No joke, I literally wake up every morning thinking "maybe we'll get a super cool devblog today." I don't know how I'd get through my morning workout and commute without that tidbit of motivation so thank you and please keep em coming!

I get up in the morning and check for a dev blog, I get home from work (now) and check for a dev blog and each night I wind down by reading the forums and/or a new dev blog. Welcome overlord thy name is eve..

+1000!

I see where you are going... I actually want to be able to drag the image.

Helpful posting tip.


:) 3x in your intro blog is bad posting. Stoffer can give you good posting tips.