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Scorum Magnus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Scorum Magnus on 04/05/2004 20:21:56
Edited by: Scorum Magnus on 04/05/2004 20:21:14
Edited by: Scorum Magnus on 04/05/2004 20:19:48
Edited by: Scorum Magnus on 04/05/2004 20:08:37
Since this has escalated into a pretty much EVE wide conflict this should be told from an unbiased opinion. Please everyone do not flame in this post this will be used to keep the rest of EVE updated on whats going on. No kill lists, no "we owned you", no smack talking, just who is on each side and who is fighting who. It would be great if we could get reporters to do this job and to watch the fleet engagements and see who really is beating who. Screen shots and FRAPS are welcomed to show whats going on. Since this is one of the biggest events going on right now Im hoping that a few polaris or GMs take notice and try and say moderate the information going out to the EVE universe. Putting stuff up on teh news would be a great idea if we could have non biases opinions watching the fights kinda like combat corispondents(spelling is off.)
Well here is the breakdown so far of annouced delcarations if I dont mention you please feel free to chime in and post.
Arcane M0ovolution Sharks/GE - Stain Alliance - Fountian Alliance - Coalition of Free Stars fighting currently against the Curse Alliance - C4 Alliance - Remenants of the Forsaken Empire.
This does not imply that SA is allied with m0o they are fighting a common enemy right now and thats how it stands. As far as i know it is only a 2 sided war and m0o has not taken any serious aggresions against SA,FA, or CFS within this time.
***EDIT***
Changed FE ot Remenants of the FE.
Added Sharks (sorry i forgot you guys)
***UPDATE*** My reasoning...
The primary reason for this post is this war effects a good portion of the EVE players. In fact most them are effected more by this war than most of the CCP events. Dont get me wrong CCP events are great and most of Empire doesnt really care about this war but its always nice to get a little update about whats going on(without searching through flames and the kill boards,etc...)
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:06:00 -
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now we need to make a name for it, Universal War I, Galactic War I, InterGalactic War I or somethin...
"We brake for nobody"
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:06:00 -
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There is no more FE.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:10:00 -
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Arcane, MOovolution, GE, and Sharks.
I believe that is all the corps involved in our side of the war on curse.
Feel free to add any i may have missed..
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Meridius
Arcane, MOovolution, GE, and Sharks.
I believe that is all the corps involved in our side of the war on curse.
Feel free to add any i may have missed..
Black Nova,MASS,can't recall the rest. Damn Short term memory. *looks through corpses.
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Masochist
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
now we need to make a name for it, Universal War I, Galactic War I, InterGalactic War I or somethin...
How about Universally Intergalactic Galaxy War from Hell Number One
....or "Finally Having Fun" for short.
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Scorum Magnus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:28:00 -
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I think either CCP or the GMs will give the war a name.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.05.04 20:45:00 -
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Black Nova,MASS,
Not really, we are the only ones there on a constant basis.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.04 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Teelmaster
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Black Nova,MASS,
Not really, we are the only ones there on a constant basis.
So.. the rest are "pirating"?
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.05.04 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Scorum Magnus
Remenants of the Forsaken Empire.
Did this game get merged with linage 2?
limpy bint
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.04 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 04/05/2004 21:29:42
Originally by: limpy bint
Originally by: Scorum Magnus
Remenants of the Forsaken Empire.
Did this game get merged with linage 2?
limpy bint
Lets not sugar coat this one. There is NO FE. Period. So just say CA/C4 vrs the "Bandwagon".
Lineage II=Kill hard monster,kill harder monster,kill even harder monster.*click click click.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.05.04 21:29:00 -
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Don't want to rain on your parade too much but...
Lets be frank. This war doesnt affect many people other than the named alliances/corps. And they, in perspective, are nothing like a large proportion of the galaxies pilots.
Yup, sure. its BIG news to those involved, but, there's a huge amount of apathy about these so-called wars bought about as a consequence of the inimical flaming and rubbish spoken over all previous ones.
Simply put: nobody believes a word (most) any of those involved says and thus most dont give a rats arse what is said about it.
Gms dont have anything to do with wars (good job too) other than via normal duties. Poalris and CCP tried reporting on wars before and got threats of being sued (nice one Ragnar). Result was the closure of the original The Scope. Since then the IR have tried - and got flammed fantastically.
The upshot of all this?
The only people REALLY interested in the "war" are thos einvolved and they've shot themselves in the foot historically by being pedantic to the point of idiocy over having "their version of truths" aired over all others - and thus nothing is said at all.
When EVE Guardian (and other news services get limited kill-data [soonÖ] some limited coverage will occur. Even then, I'm sorry, but it simply isn't that big of a deal.
News worthy - yes, in a limited fashion of all-round interest.
Worth being hauled over the coals for spelling somebodies name wrong or getting a ship kill out of place?
No way.
It would be great if we could get reporters to do this job and to watch the fleet engagements and see who really is beating who
Anybody who ahs been in EVE for while should be able to tell you why this wont happen, why it didn't work before and other associated travesties. In short though: they got down or accused of being spies/cheats/liars (or even sued).
Sorry, but, thats the ways is gone down. 
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Scorum Magnus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 21:45:00 -
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Sorry but this does involve a lot of you. Your mega and zyd supplies come from these alliaces.... Every valuable peice of 0.0 space that is currently available is claimed.. Knowing that it is harder for younger corps and empire corps to get mega and zyd other than refining pirate loot.(that takes forever to get the mega and zyd for a lvl 2 bship) Many a corp and players would not exist if suddenly the alliances stopped selling mega and zyd in bulk... Probably never happen but what does happen is the symboitic relationship between the 0.0 alliances and all the people in empire space. You need them and they need you....
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Masochist
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Posted - 2004.05.04 21:46:00 -
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[masochist's rules of eve combat]
1. STFU and enjoy the fight.
2. Don't be an *******.
3. Don't insult people or brag on the forums.
4. Take it like a man when you die.
5. Ignore those that can't follow any of the above rules.
I wish that everyone could just following my 5 simple rules.
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:03:00 -
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I'm afraid we're not currently taking part in your war.
Ever since C4 declared war on us a a couple of weeks ago, we've been sitting in the stations they used to own, awaiting our iminent death, demise and destruction.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 04/05/2004 22:07:18
Originally by: Scorum Magnus
Sorry but this does involve a lot of you. Your mega and zyd supplies come from these alliaces....
No they dont.
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Many a corp and players would not exist if suddenly the alliances stopped selling mega and zyd in bulk...
Nope - just means a lot of others would get very rich either selling stockpiles or mining out CFS space.
You are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
You see titanic battles being fought everynight with the loss of many billions of ISK in ships and modules every hour, you see vast armies arrayed and manouvering for strategic advantage, you see lots of htings that simply don't happen I'm afraid.
Doesn't happen like that and won't happen like that until people can hold space with player objects. Until then semi-mobile campathons and stand-off blob wars are the extent of the drama with a every-weekend (usually) battle that nobody can agree on who won... comprising a tiny proportion of the sub-set of corps who themselves are a small proprotion of the total pilots.
I'm not diminishing their worth, value or impact, especially in terms of news/drama, but this all-encompassing galactic war you seem to envisage simply does not exist.
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:05:00 -
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Just wanted to add that not all 0.0 space has been claimed. The space that was recently owned by F-E was opened so that who ever would like to travel through there to mine as they please. And the Querious region is open for all to travel, although it is throughly infested with pirates.
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:25:00 -
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Ever since C4 declared war on us a a couple of weeks ago, we've been sitting in the stations they used to own, awaiting our iminent death, demise and destruction.
yeah that post really had a place in this thread 
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:29:00 -
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Ill be honest.
To say Curse Alliance own Curse and surrounding areas is a joke. If a small corp like Sharks can do what the hell they like in a "mighty alliances" back yard, it doesn't say much for their claims.
Anyway, its all good fun. Dunno how long CA can take getting ganked liked this, its a bit like shooting fish in a barrel at the moment.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: crice
Black Nova,MASS,can't recall the rest.
We were mostly fighting FE up in Fade alongsde RKK, have assisted a small amount in Tribute and occasionally raid Curse (CA and NORAD have had a kind of casual KOS thing going on for months and months, stemming from the old ORS days pre-December 03).
I wouldn't say that we have been terribly active in Curse though and we certainly haven't fought alongside ATUK/m0o/Evol/SA forces in the south.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.04 22:49:00 -
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To say Curse Alliance own Curse and surrounding areas is a joke. If a small corp like Sharks can do what the hell they like in a "mighty alliances" back yard, it doesn't say much for their claims.
Maybe they don't consider u sharks and ur frigs a threat, to me ur just a fun dogfight when we cross paths, which is a lot more fun than blob wars etc etc, hope to see u soon 
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.05.04 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tehel Necrona
Maybe they don't consider u sharks and ur frigs a threat, to me ur just a fun dogfight when we cross paths, which is a lot more fun than blob wars etc etc, hope to see u soon
Well, if you dont consider losing BS's on a regular basis to the invading forces a threat, then you guys must have deep pockets!
At the end of the day, it is all good fun. Ive had the best fun in Eve for a long time since being in Curse. Hope to see you soon too ;)
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.05.04 23:38:00 -
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The (for lack of a better name) Hunters have opened Tribute as free space, Morkt. That's hardly insignificant.
As for curse, well, I agree with Miso. Their days are numbered :)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.05.05 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
The (for lack of a better name) Hunters have opened Tribute as free space, Morkt. That's hardly insignificant.
Didn't say it was.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.05.05 00:28:00 -
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Call it WAR!!! or maybe this one will suffice if simple is not your bag baby.
"The Brobdingnagian Platitudinal Penultimate Cataclysmic Intergalactic Conflict"
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.05 01:34:00 -
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what a cool post and im in it!!!
Wanna fly with me?
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.05.05 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: crice
Black Nova,MASS,can't recall the rest.
We were mostly fighting FE up in Fade alongsde RKK, have assisted a small amount in Tribute and occasionally raid Curse (CA and NORAD have had a kind of casual KOS thing going on for months and months, stemming from the old ORS days pre-December 03).
I wouldn't say that we have been terribly active in Curse though and we certainly haven't fought alongside ATUK/m0o/Evol/SA forces in the south.
I can support that statement, I hang around the old CA/FE border and had never seen a BNC member till I probing into Outer Ring. And even hanging around the "warzones" I haven't seen a member of either side,so obviously no one has seen me, small corps now can go where they please and mine in YOUR space cuz you are foolishly fighting one another, instaed of joining together to defeat the Anti-Pirate corps. Hmmmmmmm.....Defend your ego and weaken your alliances or actually change the face of Eve and conquer regions by eliminating hardcore carebears, apparently, I am the only one who would rather have a REAL victory or war.
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Andarvi
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Posted - 2004.05.05 06:16:00 -
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You want the truth, here it is:
Battles are fought daily. Ships are lost, clones are activated and everybody (well most of us anyway) is having a blast.
Reporting on a war is useless, really. At the end of the day history will be written by the corporations that remain in curse space.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.05.05 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Miso
Originally by: Tehel Necrona
Maybe they don't consider u sharks and ur frigs a threat, to me ur just a fun dogfight when we cross paths, which is a lot more fun than blob wars etc etc, hope to see u soon
Well, if you dont consider losing BS's on a regular basis to the invading forces a threat, then you guys must have deep pockets!
Miso, they do. And the sad thing is that no matter what you destroy or how many of them you kill, it won't matter. CA are like locusts.
The sad part is that because a lot of CA members have more ISK in thier personal wallets than most corporations, a hell of a lot of them can afford to lose a BS or two a week and say, "Huh? No, I didn't lose a ship. It's right here."
Good luck though, and I pity any CA that crosses your path. 
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.05.05 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
The (for lack of a better name) Hunters have opened Tribute as free space, Morkt. That's hardly insignificant.
As for curse, well, I agree with Miso. Their days are numbered :)
Number One, Indy gankers wont end the CA.
Number Two, The only reason anyone was able to claim Tribute and Vale of the Silent, was because F-E broke up, and alot of their combat pilots went away to play Lineage II.
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